Encanto's Toxic Family Dynamics - Scapegoats, Sibling Rivalry, Generational Trauma Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @HeatherThomCounselling
    @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +24

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    • @eddog6666
      @eddog6666 2 года назад +1

      I have a friend who is struggling with their father. They try to explain it but their father doesn’t listen. And when they complain about it. The father always accuses and blame them. Any advice I can give them?

    • @eddog6666
      @eddog6666 10 месяцев назад +1

      Actually there are two different types of generational trauma there is single generational trauma which only the immediate next generation feels but are able to break it and heal. What happening with the Madrigals is Intergenerational Trauma. It is that when one suffers they can’t help but to pass it down, and because of daughters usually take after their mother it adds a new layer and each daughter after suffer more and more trauma. It was always going to be Isabela and Mirabel would be the first to break.

    • @eddog6666
      @eddog6666 10 месяцев назад +1

      The original ending would have been better.
      After the collapse Mirabel sees her mother unconscious and badly injured because she was able to overcome casita attempts to keep them safe. It’s obviously a back injury( most likely a spinal injury.) Believing her mother is dead. Mirabel runs away to the river but when Alma starts calling her name Mirabel fight or flight reflex is triggered and she believes Alma is going to yell at her again and runs across the river. Alma arrives to see Mirabel vanishes around the bend.
      She goes back to pack. And then makes her way to the city. Passing by the ruins of her house.
      In a corner of a city park she sees Mirabel crying. Dos Oruguitas plays.
      At the end they make up. However Mirabel says this:
      I don’t think I can even return.
      Alma: I said the same thing about this place but it brought me back. Pedro always said destiny isn’t up to you.
      Any take your time oh your mother is fine. I have a friend here you can alway come back. Two years later, the gifts are muted and casita is despondent. Only for Antonio to reveal a letter telling Mirabel’s coming home. The doorknob is removed and as Mirabel arrives she is giving that doorknob and magic is full back with her and Alma holding the candle. And both of them discovering their true gifts. The four elements.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 3 года назад +168

    This was such a delightful movie, and I really appreciated that there was no twist villain, with the closest thing to an antagonist being Abeula. Most of the conflict revolved around the family's past, and their relationships with each other.

  • @Lun0.selen0
    @Lun0.selen0 2 года назад +63

    The creators of Encanto are said that although not shown in the film Camilo suffers from pressure and has insecurities, although he hides it under his cheerful attitude. Although he appreciates her gift, it makes him question his sense of self, and constantly morphing for others tires him.

    • @MariChambers
      @MariChambers Год назад +3

      It would be great to delve into this if they make a sequel!

    • @wyatt778
      @wyatt778 Год назад +2

      @@MariChambersyeah, i hope so, since there is a confirmed sequel

  • @baileywhittington1695
    @baileywhittington1695 2 года назад +39

    As someone from a large family with low scale generational trauma (internalized perfectionism and father-issues) I really felt seen in this movie. Especially the part when Bruno says “Yeah, my gift wasn’t helping my family, but I love my family, you know?” Generational change is extremely difficult and often painful. Wonderful analysis.

  • @waeguginyeoja
    @waeguginyeoja 2 года назад +61

    I used to be the Bruno of the family, as in everyone blamed me for everything, they assumed I had malicious intentions even though my intentions were always good and I loved my family dearly. I tried to stay in their lives without getting in the way, like how Bruno lived in the walls, but after several years I realized I was going crazy (much like how Bruno was) and just left. I don't talk to my parents or sister anymore because no matter what I did, even when I was being helpful, they would put a dark twist on it.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 2 года назад +13

      Sorry, you went through that.

    • @quinnginn9672
      @quinnginn9672 2 года назад +5

      I hope that you are alright now 💞

    • @webguy943
      @webguy943 Год назад +2

      Ur better off without them bro. U do u

  • @juliechen8710
    @juliechen8710 2 года назад +98

    Great analysis! Very easy to understand! I just wish the movie had a scene where the family members apologized for all the terrible things they said about Bruno. It felt like he was accepted into the family again as if he had done something bad, but it was Abuella and then the family/ townspeople that painted a bad picture of him as a shameful scapegoat child

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +28

      Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And yes, I agree with you, I wish they had the family members apologize to Bruno because he didn't do anything wrong.

    • @ms.newcomerteacher6554
      @ms.newcomerteacher6554 2 года назад +8

      Each generation has their own scapegoat.

    • @jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
      @jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 2 года назад +8

      Maybe they will touch on this in that Disney Plus series that was announced? Maybe the family and townsfolk noticing Bruno sort of clenching around them, like he still us friendly but they cannot get close.
      I wish Isabella apologized for being a bitch to Maribel (and Pepa as well) but I think maybe Isabella has a history of mean girl behavior where the towns girls fawn over her but don't want to be her friends.

    • @juliechen8710
      @juliechen8710 2 года назад +4

      @@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Yep, I totally agree that Isabella and Pepa should apologize for their treatment of Mirabel

  • @GrifMoNeY
    @GrifMoNeY 2 года назад +22

    The scene that really broke me was Dos Oruguitas. Abuela has been carrying that trauma for *decades*, never sharing with anyone how it truly affected her, never showing her real pain. Nobody in the family could possibly relate, because she's dedicated her life to making sure they lived in peace. She even wrapped it up in family legend, telling the story over and over, but only the facts, only the sanitized version, never how she really felt and what she lost. And it all culminated in her realizing that she never got over it, that this trauma was destroying her family.

  • @patricialafrance3210
    @patricialafrance3210 2 года назад +55

    Bruno was the man ! Totally cried at so many different scenes. I have a huge family, I see myself in this movie.

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +4

      Omg I cried a lot when I first watched this. And then I cried some more when I had to find the scenes for this analysis video 😂

  • @theonebeing981
    @theonebeing981 2 года назад +35

    Mirabel and Bruno are such kind-hearted, wonderful people honestly, I would've done everything in my power, spent every resource, broken all semblance of decency and humanity to get back tenfold at the "family" that wronged me for simply existing.

    • @gabrieladapazlima7947
      @gabrieladapazlima7947 Год назад +1

      i do see bruno but except by isa and abuela noboy hates mirabel tho

  • @katholmes7112
    @katholmes7112 Год назад +20

    A great metaphor for what's going on in the family can actually be seen in the doors. Every family member except Dolores and Bruno, the eyes on their doors are shut. Dolores and Bruno are the only ones who have eyes open because their gifts have let them see and hear the truth of what's going on. If Mirabel had a door, the eyes would also be open. Everyone else in the family are asleep, pretending nothing is wrong while the pressure of perfectionism is actually breaking them.

  • @Luci_Luverrrr
    @Luci_Luverrrr 2 года назад +28

    I broke into tears when I saw this scene in Encanto it was just so sad how Bruno felt like he was an outcast and he didn’t belong in the family he misses them so much as well but he’s so afraid to come now because the family thinks he’s a bad person but he’s not

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +4

      I still can't watch this scene without getting teary eyed 😢

    • @Luci_Luverrrr
      @Luci_Luverrrr 2 года назад +1

      @@HeatherThomCounselling you are so kind ❤️

  • @Dougretseverything
    @Dougretseverything 2 года назад +18

    Mirabel didnt get a door so the whole house became her room this is why she is the only one to control the house

    • @Dougretseverything
      @Dougretseverything 2 года назад +4

      The house is tied to her emotions which is why when she is angry with her grandmother the house collapses and the miracle dies also is it a coincidence that miracle and mirabel are so close?

  • @tiffanypersaud3518
    @tiffanypersaud3518 7 месяцев назад +2

    Was waiting for someone to put technical explanations to things for this film in ways that were easy to understand, thanks! ❤

  • @oralie.bordeaux
    @oralie.bordeaux Год назад +3

    That scene broke me too.

  • @zc8673
    @zc8673 Год назад +10

    I really think this movie brushes over serious lifelong abuse as if it were a simple misunderstanding that can be resolved with a hug and a "sorry".
    The way Mirabel both apologizes and the PRAISES her abuser towards the end absolutely boggled my mind. All while her abuser not only has absolutely zero consequences for her actions, but also gets everything she wanted in the first place, all for a flimsy promise of "I'll get better" with no follow through to be seen.
    The songs make jokes of the children's experiences while not condemning the actions of abuse that both led them there, and are still occuring. Luisa's crushing song turning into a donkey dance number. (Before you say, "but its a kid's movie", Inside Out managed to do an even better job of being nuanced and enjoyable while not making jokes of the characters pain.)
    The overplayed and overpraised "we dont talk about bruno" being all about scapgoating him and essentially forcing him into exile while not condemning those actions, but instead attempting to pull at your heartstrings when you see his self-made plate a couple of scenes later, as if he wouldn't have any negative geelings towards the people who abused and neglected him his whole life but tather is desperate to be with them again. At the end he's accepted back as if he did something wrong, not as if the family was willing and ready to apologize and make it up to him.
    These are just a couple examples of where this film managers to completely drip the ball, having a decent representation of abuse but somehow ending up praising and encouraging the abusers.

  • @amywinchester727
    @amywinchester727 2 года назад +10

    Best therapist explanation of this movie! Great analysis. very clear and easy to understand!

  • @nek_k9160
    @nek_k9160 3 года назад +42

    I wonder, is it possible for one child to be all 3? The middle child, the golden child and yet still the scape goat? Even if as the scape goat, it’s in the eyes of just 1 out of the 2 parents?

    • @nek_k9160
      @nek_k9160 3 года назад +7

      Also can the terms “scapegoat” and “black sheep” be used interchangeably?

    • @jenius9164
      @jenius9164 2 года назад +18

      @@nek_k9160 I think it's possible. "Be the golden child, and if you're not, everything is your fault."

    • @MinMin-qw5gn
      @MinMin-qw5gn 2 года назад +17

      i feel like, personally I noticed with my narcissist dad I would usually be the golden child but he would flip over barely anything and then I become the scapegoat, this wouldn't be based off my actions and just his views and manipulation flipping over time. And the middle child is another dynamic that you will be apart of your identity irregardless if you are also the scape goat or golden child but it will impact the dynamic you have if that makes sense so yes I feel like you could be all three

    • @amandashuman813
      @amandashuman813 Год назад +1

      I was adopted by my grandparents and I can tell you 100% I have been all three of these aspects and placement. And Bruno at times. Always misplaced, but expected to be perfect, and a pillar of strength all while being blamed and treated as the bad one when I was only trying to help. My family still does this and it got really bad when my mother passed in 2021.

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 2 года назад +15

    I'm here for this professional and nuanced analysis!

  • @ENFPSIS
    @ENFPSIS 2 года назад +10

    I really liked the movie! It's an amazing film of how toxic family can affect all and how it works, it is really sad to whoever has been through this all. I really hope you all are doing good. Great analysis by the way! Helped me understand a lot of things!

  • @MrAnimeFan4Eva
    @MrAnimeFan4Eva 10 месяцев назад +3

    I know I'm late but I only just saw this movie and when I saw the drawn on plate on the table behind the while that was one of the most depressing things I've ever seen.... we dont talk about Bruno he just the bearer of bad news so he's the one to blame right? The bearer of good news will be accepted/praised. Bruno is one of the best characters in the movie ❤

  • @Puppetgirl93
    @Puppetgirl93 Год назад +14

    I really wish Mirable distanced herself from her family and the ending had Mirable and Bruno walk away and start their own lives, distancing from the toxic family

    • @alevela9309
      @alevela9309 Год назад +3

      That would have been more realistic to what happens in real life. I have never witnessed a dysfunctional family ever heal. They just collapse or slowly smolder with a few outcast starting new beginnings.

    • @kpl-CA
      @kpl-CA 7 месяцев назад +1

      THANK YOU.
      I found the movie *disgusting*, excusing abuse, neglect, bullying, arrogance, bigotry and cruelty.
      That family was full of selfish, lazy monsters. They didn't deserve the only two *kind* people.

  • @rellenoshasa41
    @rellenoshasa41 Год назад +2

    We love and own this movie. Wow, I really see what the therapist is sharing. Grew up this way.😢

  • @ThatOddChickenHippie
    @ThatOddChickenHippie Год назад +5

    Me: does this person know my family some how?

  • @danielleoetjen568
    @danielleoetjen568 2 года назад +4

    Excellent breakdown and I will be using this in group to help pts understand Family Roles!

  • @DemonSlayerRX20
    @DemonSlayerRX20 2 года назад +8

    Great video but side note: out of the possible millions of videos I've watched over the years I can finally say, this one time, reminding me to leave a thumbs up worked! I almost left the video without doing it. 🤪

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад

      Thank you, I feel very special! 😊 Your comment and thumbs up are much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope to see you around!

  • @djtakesnorequests
    @djtakesnorequests 2 года назад +5

    As an LCSW , thank you. I will study this video and present this energy to students that I work with who have experienced multiple traumas. Blessings.

  • @maureenseel118
    @maureenseel118 2 года назад +3

    At a point of deciding if it's time to end my relationship with a parent because he sees no reason to revisit the past.

  • @jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
    @jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 2 года назад +17

    Damn Isabella, Alma, and even Pepa are snotty as hell.
    And Julieta and Agustin could have done more for Mirabel.
    I kind of wish the movie would have ended with Maribel walking off from the family to start her own life to the tune of "He Thinks He'll Keep Her"

  • @cutekitty760
    @cutekitty760 2 года назад +12

    Hi I have a question, do you think kids real really "get" the message in this movie? I wonder if they're too young to grasp it

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +10

      That's a good question! I think it depends on their age and maybe personal experience - they might be able to see some resemblance, but the concepts are complex to grasp and the movie barely scratched the surface when it comes to family systems. I imagine that the movie is moreso for the parents and emerging adults to reflect on their own family systems and to make changes in their future, if they choose. The movie is a great at starting the conversation though!

    • @tiffanypersaud3518
      @tiffanypersaud3518 Год назад

      I think it’s age appropriate for a lot of ages. Mirabel’s yearning to belong speaks through ages and her love for her family and the way she stands up for herself makes her an undeniable hero.

  • @HeatherThomCounselling
    @HeatherThomCounselling  3 года назад +10

    What other Disney movies do you want me to analyze? Let me know in the comments below!

  • @klimmr
    @klimmr 3 месяца назад +1

    So, because the family treated Bruno like an outcast, did the house decide to punish the family by making sure their next kid didn't get a gift?

  • @jerafeemforro8657
    @jerafeemforro8657 2 года назад +4

    very nice video

  • @Avidrobloxslayer
    @Avidrobloxslayer 2 года назад +10

    Encanto is always gonna be best Disney movie

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +1

      It's so good!

    • @Avidrobloxslayer
      @Avidrobloxslayer 2 года назад

      @@HeatherThomCounselling yes it is!

    • @babe8917
      @babe8917 Год назад

      To me that place goes to Coco but I like encanto as well. It really related to me as I feel like Mirabel all the time

  • @seanwolslau-holdren6731
    @seanwolslau-holdren6731 2 года назад +16

    Maribel and Bruno, were better off without their family. They couldn't even recognize their own faults and did a lot to hide their insecurities. Their fates, in my judgement, were already sealed.

  • @bookbum19
    @bookbum19 2 года назад +21

    Excellent video. Thank you so much! Also, it's not abYOUla, it's abuELLA

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +8

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video! And thanks for letting me know 😊

    • @hlb975
      @hlb975 2 года назад +5

      "Ah-BWay-La" :-)

  • @Haru_taru143
    @Haru_taru143 2 года назад +5

    Hi I am happy your name is Heather to my name is Heather also🥰🥰🥰

    • @HeatherThomCounselling
      @HeatherThomCounselling  2 года назад +2

      Hi Heather! It's nice to meet you and I'm so glad to see you here! 😊

  • @jaebird8539
    @jaebird8539 2 года назад +3

    Great recap and analysis. But, “Abuela” means Grandma and is pronounced “Ah-bway-la”.

  • @ririrose1151
    @ririrose1151 2 года назад +4

    Great movie with a stupid ending