Silver one and a half pence coin. Struck for colonial use in Ceylon, where it was worth 4 stivers (1 fanam) and the West Indies (Jamaica, British Guiana and Trinidad) where it was equivalent to 1/4 real.
Here in the USA we have silver 3 cent pieces that date to the same time and are about the same size as your Victoria. Most Americans have never heard of it. Congratulations on the find.
Here in the Netherlands we have a silver 5 cent piece which is 12,5 mm, I think about ± 5 million were minted in between 1848 and 1887, but they are not found regularly.
These tiny coins were originally struck for use in the British Colonies which were at the time using imperial currency. Although these coins were never meant for use in Britain they gradually found their way back and into circulation. Issued in various years during the reign of Victoria from 1838-1862 these scarce coins have become part of British coin collections.
Would you consider showing some photos of your highland uncle and his Shire horses. They must be lovely and, I think, interesting to see. Love your channel.
your wife is a wonderful woman and I know you treat her well I do miss seeing Jura and I love that you're able to bring us such amazing videos and discoveries as well as being a tour guide for Scotland for those of us that feel a strong pull to that land❤
I am a Scottish non-detectorist but I love your channel. Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and your knowledge. I also love reading the comments from your friends across the world.
When I was little, my Mum used to collect ‘thrupenny bits’ in a pint milk bottle. I loved to help her stack them in stacks of four and groups of twenty to get ready to take to the bank. I can’t recall what Mum did with the proceeds, but no doubt a special little ‘something’ for the family! Happy memories! Thank you John!
Very nice mate! Love the old "three-halfpence" for the colonies. Unusual find and yes as others have mentioned they were made to circulate in Ceylon and the West Indies but found their way into circulation in Britain. There were 1.8 million of them minted in 1842 and they all seem to have that "dropped 2". The silver Maundy one pence is even smaller. Here in Australia coinage was a real problem in the early days of the colony and we used all sorts of coinage from Georgian pennies to Spanish dollars and even Indian and Portuguese gold as Proclamation currency. At one point things were so desperate we used rum! Then we moved onto standard British coins from about 1820 and occasionally a three-halfpence turns up in old collections.
Wonderful finds today John, I agree that silver coin is tiny. Love the horse brass too!! Thank you and your lovely wife for giving you more digging time.
I love the horse brass! (and the wee coin is so cute) My dad worked with Clydesdales in the late 40s/early 50s to do heavy duty logging. He was the biggest animal lover I’ve ever known but he disliked horses, which was always super weird to me until I found out about him trying to get huge logs off of big mountains with stubborn horses. 😂
What a lovely silver John, there’s no end to the amount of unusual rarer coins you find. Never seen one of those 1 1/2 pence before and so unusual to be silver for that little amount? You might be out digging on your own but your commentary is excellent and so full of historic info. That horse brass is is perfect too 🎉🎉
The amount of history that you bring is astounding mate! I love this channel, I used to own a Deus 2. I’ve subscribed to “The Hoover Boys” going on 5 years now. We get some spectacle buckles from the early 1600s but nothing compares to finding a hammered Roman coin or older lying around in a carrot patch!
That was interesting to see something I've never seen before! As a person from the US, I'm always surprised by how HUGE a lot of those coins you find are. I get that hundreds of years ago a penny would have been worth something so the coins were large, but in the later years they kept on making them really big despite them not being worth much. I expect it was a bit of a hassle having to carry those things around, especially if you needed a pile of them to buy anything.
I still have a replacement trousers pocket from my family home. Pockets often needed to be replaced as they became worn out by the ‘small change’ which men often carried.
@@rhettoracle9679 I love New Orleans. Is it 100 degrees yet? I walked two miles reading meters today in 83 degrees and that was hot enough for me! I saw three wild turkeys and some beautiful clouds. Life is good!
Curiously, John, most pattern coins made for Edward viii in 1937 in the UK show him facing left. Therefore 3 consecutive kings, George v, Edward viii, and George vi all faced left, although some pattern coins for Edward, in New Zealand, show him facing left, and some facing right. So left-right-left seemingly was not rigidly being applied in the UK in the mid-30s.
I think I heard it was because Edward broke with tradition because he preferred the other side as his profile and wanted his hair part to be on the coin. It appears that it was a vanity thing lol
As John explained, After Gorgeous Goerge died, his eldest Son Edward took to crown for only 7 months before abdicating to marry a "Commoner? " So, George the 6th actually WAS second in line so took a left face.
The standard weight of this coin was 1/44 troy ounce or 10.9 grains. Struck for colonial use in Ceylon, where it was worth 4 stivers (1 fanam) and the West Indies (Jamaica, British Guiana and Trinidad) where it was equivalent to 1/4 real.
Blessings, my Scottish Detectorist friend, from this old man in Tennessee. More lovely finds. First time I’ve heard of a 1 ½ anything coin…but it’s Silver. Definitely rare…and lovely. Blessings John.
Great dig John. Never heard of or seen a silver 1 1/2 pence coin, great find. Thats one of the fantastic things about this hobby, we're always learning. Well saved 👍
Mr. Surely John is so Lucky with his Subscribers helping him identify Rare Coins! Guess Johns Boss Wife👍 Has decided He's a Keeper! Or is it The incoming 8 mill. Views?!🤣🤣🤣😜 Pretty historical day in UK ( United Kaos) worst result since 1832?! And they deserve it. Keep up the Good Job John😜🔝❤️
I'm sure you've had one before because I remember writing a comment about it, unless it was under someone else's video 😂 It's called a Three Halfpenny, and an awful lot of these were minted in 1842 (over a million), and were presumably for Overseas Territories. They were also given out as Maundy Money. I don't know if there was any difference between the overseas and maundy coins because I haven't looked that hard, or if they were legal tender in the UK. I'm sure it was your video I commented on, because I ended up going down a rabbit hole, but I am a bit ditzy at times.
👏👏👏Brilliant find of the 1 & half penny silver. They weren't minted for British use, but silver is silver, so I'm sure some found their way back. Great stuff. Really enjoyable. Cheers mate 👍
What a day, that wee 1 1/2 pence Victorian coin is amazing, and this was such an exciting group of coins on this field. You need to return to it again!
These are some great finds, John. The silver is very nice, though sadly not worth an incredible amount. I can't blame you though for being over the moon about it, silver is ALWAYS great to find. Nice run of coins for sure. Maybe the next dig will produce that million dollar coin. Cheers from Texas.
Very nice round👍 It's are very small fine silver coin🥰 I hope you was at the next Detectival, and i can find a hammered coin, too Best wishes from South Bavaria 🤘
Spectacular coin, John. Please don't clean it. The dark and silver contrast is too unique to lose. And to think it only took one tiny hole in someone's pocket. How big were the holes in people's pockets to lose cartwheels, then? Rock on.
By the sounds of it, there’s an investigation required into just who from the colonies may have been there working the land in those parts at that period of time. Surely there’d be some county records which could shine a light maybe?
1842 three-ha'penny silver coin, very impressive, for colonial use, minted between 1838-1862, and a proof in 1870. In that condition, it's worth about 14 quid - in 2019 value
Never seen a coin like that what a find 1 1/2 denom from 1842 early Queen Victoria young head. So small too to find. I see it weighs not even one gram! but .925 silver fineness
Silver one and a half pence coin. Struck for colonial use in Ceylon, where it was worth 4 stivers (1 fanam) and the West Indies (Jamaica, British Guiana and Trinidad) where it was equivalent to 1/4 real.
Yes I agree, I thought she was Empress of India though?
Maybe bury the description of the coin deeper in the text. I like not knowing what he found and your comment was the first thing I saw.
There were apparently 1,869,000 coins minted for 1842.
Although, ownership levels of the 1842 example appear to be quite low.
I wonder why?
@@weedfreer They were also a coin given away with Maundy Money, but the 1842 ones were definitely in circulation.
@@weedfreerbecause they’re easy to lose and hard to find.
Thank you Mrs. Scottish Detectorist. Team work makes the dream work 😊. Seriously, your wife is a keeper for sure. Love the 1 1/2 pence.
Here in the USA we have silver 3 cent pieces that date to the same time and are about the same size as your Victoria. Most Americans have never heard of it. Congratulations on the find.
The 3 cent US coin (trime) was 14mm in size. Those 1.5P coins were 12mm in size. A very VERY small coin.
There's also a 3 cent nickel as well that's very hard to come by..
Here in the Netherlands we have a silver 5 cent piece which is 12,5 mm, I think about ± 5 million were minted in between 1848 and 1887, but they are not found regularly.
These tiny coins were originally struck for use in the British Colonies which were at the time using imperial currency. Although these coins were never meant for use in Britain they gradually found their way back and into circulation. Issued in various years during the reign of Victoria from 1838-1862 these scarce coins have become part of British coin collections.
Would you consider showing some photos of your highland uncle and his Shire horses. They must be lovely and, I think, interesting to see. Love your channel.
your wife is a wonderful woman and I know you treat her well I do miss seeing Jura and I love that you're able to bring us such amazing videos and discoveries as well as being a tour guide for Scotland for those of us that feel a strong pull to that land❤
Lovely find all thanks to Mrs John for her help as well 😊
I am a Scottish non-detectorist but I love your channel. Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and your knowledge. I also love reading the comments from your friends across the world.
When I was little, my Mum used to collect ‘thrupenny bits’ in a pint milk bottle. I loved to help her stack them in stacks of four and groups of twenty to get ready to take to the bank. I can’t recall what Mum did with the proceeds, but no doubt a special little ‘something’ for the family! Happy memories! Thank you John!
Very nice mate! Love the old "three-halfpence" for the colonies. Unusual find and yes as others have mentioned they were made to circulate in Ceylon and the West Indies but found their way into circulation in Britain. There were 1.8 million of them minted in 1842 and they all seem to have that "dropped 2". The silver Maundy one pence is even smaller.
Here in Australia coinage was a real problem in the early days of the colony and we used all sorts of coinage from Georgian pennies to Spanish dollars and even Indian and Portuguese gold as Proclamation currency. At one point things were so desperate we used rum! Then we moved onto standard British coins from about 1820 and occasionally a three-halfpence turns up in old collections.
Wonderful finds today John, I agree that silver coin is tiny. Love the horse brass too!! Thank you and your lovely wife for giving you more digging time.
Great coin,, 1,870,000 minted I believe. Very fine worth around $27.00 US, A 60 rating is worth around $180.00 US. Great show .
So, depending on condition, worth a pretty good dinner out for you and Mrs. D. if you ever cross the Pond...
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McDaniels on the low end. I'd say it's probably in the middle, but I know nothing about mints.
I looked up that 1-1/2 pence coin and it was struck for use in Ceylon and the West Indies so I'm guessing it is rare in Scotland. Nice find!
That's awesome great find John
Braw find John! Always enjoy. Tell Simon to hurry and get back to digging with you.
What a great find😮If it was for use in the colonies one wonders about the person who dropped it in a Scottish field.
They were minted from 1838 to 1862...The 1842 was the only one that had over a million minted.
I love the horse brass! (and the wee coin is so cute)
My dad worked with Clydesdales in the late 40s/early 50s to do heavy duty logging. He was the biggest animal lover I’ve ever known but he disliked horses, which was always super weird to me until I found out about him trying to get huge logs off of big mountains with stubborn horses. 😂
What a lovely silver John, there’s no end to the amount of unusual rarer coins you find. Never seen one of those 1 1/2 pence before and so unusual to be silver for that little amount? You might be out digging on your own but your commentary is excellent and so full of historic info. That horse brass is is perfect too 🎉🎉
Beautiful finds today John. Congratulations!
Great field!
The amount of history that you bring is astounding mate! I love this channel, I used to own a Deus 2. I’ve subscribed to “The Hoover Boys” going on 5 years now. We get some spectacle buckles from the early 1600s but nothing compares to finding a hammered Roman coin or older lying around in a carrot patch!
I've watched Hoover's a lot. First Europeans here in MD were 1634. Earliest I've seen Hoover Boy's on is 1650 or so.
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I’m just going by the buckle book, it has ranges of production dates for spectacle buckles. Kurt just found a 1620’s buckle is all.
That was interesting to see something I've never seen before! As a person from the US, I'm always surprised by how HUGE a lot of those coins you find are. I get that hundreds of years ago a penny would have been worth something so the coins were large, but in the later years they kept on making them really big despite them not being worth much. I expect it was a bit of a hassle having to carry those things around, especially if you needed a pile of them to buy anything.
I still have a replacement trousers pocket from my family home. Pockets often needed to be replaced as they became worn out by the ‘small change’ which men often carried.
You'd be surprised at how many coins were made under Victoria, I have several 1/3 of a farthing.
Quarter Farthing, Third Farthing, Half Farthing, Double Florin etc
Gold, silver and bronze! An Olympic trifecta event! Cheers from New Orleans
@@rhettoracle9679 I love New Orleans. Is it 100 degrees yet? I walked two miles reading meters today in 83 degrees and that was hot enough for me!
I saw three wild turkeys and some beautiful clouds. Life is good!
@@bretthess6376 Been in the upper 90's lately. The Wild Turkey seen here is in a bottle.
Curiously, John, most pattern coins made for Edward viii in 1937 in the UK show him facing left. Therefore 3 consecutive kings, George v, Edward viii, and George vi all faced left, although some pattern coins for Edward, in New Zealand, show him facing left, and some facing right. So left-right-left seemingly was not rigidly being applied in the UK in the mid-30s.
I think I heard it was because Edward broke with tradition because he preferred the other side as his profile and wanted his hair part to be on the coin. It appears that it was a vanity thing lol
As John explained, After Gorgeous Goerge died, his eldest Son Edward took to crown for only 7 months before abdicating to marry a "Commoner? "
So, George the 6th actually WAS second in line so took a left face.
Wow, great find with the tiny silver coin! Hello from Oregon, USA
The standard weight of this coin was 1/44 troy ounce or 10.9 grains. Struck for colonial use in Ceylon, where it was worth 4 stivers (1 fanam) and the West Indies (Jamaica, British Guiana and Trinidad) where it was equivalent to 1/4 real.
Colonial coin minted for Ceylon and The West Indies
And only minted in 8 different years between 1838 and 1870.
Yay! Glad you could get back in the fields.
Take care of those bendy thumbs!
Blessings, my Scottish Detectorist friend, from this old man in Tennessee. More lovely finds. First time I’ve heard of a 1 ½ anything coin…but it’s Silver. Definitely rare…and lovely. Blessings John.
An absolutely Clanger, RARE Coin. Well done John… Does it get any better 😮😅😊
Love the 1842 John...have it graded and save it my friend, congrats..🍻🍻🍻
When you turned that big shiny button, I audibly gasped for some reason XD
On your silver coins, try squirting, isopropyl, alcohol or rubbing alcohol. Same thing it drives very fast and it gets them very clean.
That was an awesome find I looked it up thanks for sharing John and yes it was not sure how uncommon it is.
Great dig John. Never heard of or seen a silver 1 1/2 pence coin, great find.
Thats one of the fantastic things about this hobby, we're always learning. Well saved 👍
Hi John. Great finds today. Not sure if you’ve mentioned this before but will you be attending Detectival this year?
Cracking 1&1/2 pence.
I've never even heard of one before! And very nice condition.
Mr. Surely John is so Lucky with his
Subscribers helping him identify
Rare Coins! Guess Johns Boss Wife👍
Has decided He's a Keeper! Or is it
The incoming 8 mill. Views?!🤣🤣🤣😜
Pretty historical day in UK ( United Kaos) worst result since 1832?!
And they deserve it. Keep up the
Good Job John😜🔝❤️
im liking the Jethro program ,will be trying it on the beach soon too
Exciting coin! Tiny coin for a tiny queen! 😉
You to used to finding them big penny's lol very nice finds
The 1 1/2 coin is cool, and you didn’t drop it! Good finds in the second half of the today, enjoy the rain!
I'm sure you've had one before because I remember writing a comment about it, unless it was under someone else's video 😂 It's called a Three Halfpenny, and an awful lot of these were minted in 1842 (over a million), and were presumably for Overseas Territories. They were also given out as Maundy Money. I don't know if there was any difference between the overseas and maundy coins because I haven't looked that hard, or if they were legal tender in the UK.
I'm sure it was your video I commented on, because I ended up going down a rabbit hole, but I am a bit ditzy at times.
llove to hear about the rare one John. very curious
Congrats Mate!!
Great finds John 👍 congratulations
Excellent video as usual, ty again for the history lesson, I always appreciate that..keep them coming ❤
👏👏👏Brilliant find of the 1 & half penny silver. They weren't minted for British use, but silver is silver, so I'm sure some found their way back. Great stuff. Really enjoyable. Cheers mate 👍
Maundy money. I’ve got one too from 1700’s - aberdeenshire
Are you running the Jethro program John
Shout out to Mrs. Scottish Detectoists! ❤ I can’t wait to find out about that tiny coin! 🪙
I had a 1-1/2 pence a couple of weeks back and was stunned at how small it was
I don’t even know they existed lol
Well done
You better update us on that tiny coin. I'm curious too. ❤❤❤❤
What a day, that wee 1 1/2 pence Victorian coin is amazing, and this was such an exciting group of coins on this field. You need to return to it again!
Nice coins today! Thanks for the video.
Would love to see the pictures of your great Uncle's horses
Like a Canadian fishscale 5c silver, I dig them up from tome to time.
The 1 and 1/2 pence coin back in 1842 was designed to buy stamps
Maundy Money. 1 1/2 pence. Half a thrupenny. Very nice find.
I found one of those here in canada a few years ago, one of my fav finds
Do you mark each find digitally? It would be amazing to see if there’s a pattern, like a trail or a long gone house.
Lovely silver john 👌
Great coin John, i would jiber jaber too if i found that coin
Lovely silver Victoria 3 pence spink 3195 page 472 , Three Halfpence part of the Maundy set well saved
ceylon and west indies circulation...william IV had a 1.5 pence too 1830's i think
Great finds!!
These are some great finds, John. The silver is very nice, though sadly not worth an incredible amount. I can't blame you though for being over the moon about it, silver is ALWAYS great to find. Nice run of coins for sure. Maybe the next dig will produce that million dollar coin. Cheers from Texas.
Did the horse brass used to have something in the middle or was it just a shiny brass?
1842 1 1/2 in excellent shape up to $50.. congratulations 👏,
The 1½ Pence is a colonial for use in Ceylon, West Indies (Jamaica, British Guiana and Trinidad), great find John!
Edit: Minted between 1838-1870
I have a George III silver 1 pence in my collection. It’s quite a bit smaller than your 1-1/2 p.
What an amazing coin 🪙!
WOW Congratulations on ur silver coin 😊
Very nice round👍
It's are very small fine silver coin🥰
I hope you was at the next Detectival, and i can find a hammered coin, too
Best wishes from South Bavaria 🤘
Spectacular coin, John. Please don't clean it. The dark and silver contrast is too unique to lose. And to think it only took one tiny hole in someone's pocket. How big were the holes in people's pockets to lose cartwheels, then? Rock on.
Love your programs, but you really need to take a magnifying glass with you to look at some of these things you can’t get inscriptions off of
The. 'three halfpences ' were produced from 1834 to 1862 and were for use in the colonies 🙂
1 1/2 d coin. Maybe Maundy money. Great find.
1, 1/2 pence coin. Nice find Jocky 👍👍
By the sounds of it, there’s an investigation required into just who from the colonies may have been there working the land in those parts at that period of time.
Surely there’d be some county records which could shine a light maybe?
Silver three halfpence , lovely find
Double dig day 🎉 Really thought your horse 🐴 brass was nice. No wonder the coin was lost it was so tiny 😮
1842 three-ha'penny silver coin, very impressive, for colonial use, minted between 1838-1862, and a proof in 1870. In that condition, it's worth about 14 quid - in 2019 value
Lovely three half pence 🔥👌
Good evening! Looking forward to this one.
The blue & white looked 1700's to me John. (My mum used to collect it).
A good one John and what a strange little coin, however I did look it up they are out there and sadly for you they’re not rare. 1 1/2 pence
nice coin john that rare
Thought the vicky 3 pence was small but that's tiny..Well done..👏
Could be a pocket portrait frame, y'know.
The wee horse brass thingy also kind of looks like a darling sweetheart photo frame?
LOL...I have a cat named Jethro.
Lunch time entertainment here
You always seem to find something kool
Lots of fun !!
Proper little history stick the Deus 2 👏
Never seen a coin like that what a find 1 1/2 denom from 1842 early Queen Victoria young head. So small too to find. I see it weighs not even one gram! but .925 silver fineness
Minted for commonwealth use , three ha'pence.
there were 1.8 million 1-1/2 pence silver coins minted in 1842, they ran from 1838 -1862 i think