This video brings back good memories of getting into the game 3 years ago and pouring over Crabbok’s original What To Buy videos, taking notes about where to get upgrades and putting together terrible lists that flew apart but were a lot of fun
I personally don’t play competitively, I just own Armada as I would any other board game. This means that if I get an expansion for one faction, I need to get one for the other faction too, which means I don’t have any ships larger than medium. This makes the Pelta actually really nice, it’s one of the tangiest ships I can get for the rebels at $30 dollars or less, so it usually serves as my rebel flagship.
For those who are wondering : The Assault Frigate MK II is first scene in Empire At War, a PC RTS Game first released in 2006, and its design is similar to the Nebula B Frigates and Mon Colamari Star Ships
I wish they would add the MC85 star cruiser with exceptional shields and squadron carrying but with a high cost at around 150-160pts. I think it should be a broadside ship like the home one but more speed (speed 3) hull value 13
Another great informative video. It is worth noting the excellent upgrade pack also has a zip baggy with tokens tucked in. I was very pleased with this upgrade as the Imp Arquitens has at least 2, IIRC, upgrade cards not in any Rebel exp - reinforced blast doors and dual laser turrets(?) and the notorious SSD I believe has a Fleet Support upgrade also not avail to the Rebels. So this pack provides them, I presume. As an aside, funny Navy story came to mind when you mentioned how some folks do not consider the Rebel Gr-75s as "warships". Once upon a time on board my last ship (LSD which "transports WWW Marines, X, M1 MBTs, Y various Humvees and Z 105mms) I was up on the bridge. Someone made a comment about the ship and a Lieutenant said "well, it's not like this is a real warship", just as the Captain entered the bridge. 👀😖🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for all of your hard work. On Thanksgiving I was in the hospital icu again. This time, (there have been many,lol) they tagged me with terminal chronic acute kidney failure. It is slamming me right into instant retirement due to illness. Im only 40 and plan on sticking around for a long time but now with all of the time I now have u decided to dive into all of the stuff I loved or wanted as a kid. Armada and games like warhammer 40k have always been something I wanted to get into. Bought the starter box, the imperial star destoyer, the profundity, and a rebel and empire squadron pack. I think some more dice and that expansion card pack might be next. Im most likely going to mostly play alone so I'm trying to build 2 competitive and balanced armies. Any other suggestions to go with what I have so far would be greatly appreciated. Love the show, sorry about this mini novel of a message, lol, and keep up the great work. You have a new fan and I will be watching, lol. You ARE my star wars gaming source now.... may the force continue to be with you.
There needs to be a crossover mission to combine armadas and legion. Seems like a match made on heaven imho, or maybe come out with armada sized ground units. Would be awesome to run a two table space/planetary war.
Hey Crabbok! So I've been slowly going through your content. We chatted on one of your other videos and I mentioned my play group was restarting and I had recently made a trade and acquired my buddies Rebel collection. The funny thing is, it included literally everything you have in this video minus the card upgrade, an extra set of dice, the Hammer heads, the Profundity and the Starhawk. I'm gonna totally take your advice, grab that card upgrade set, an extra set of dice. This video might be 3 years old, but it still served as a fantastic guide I'm gonna send to my friends.
Love your vids man! I started playing x-wing a couple years back and now I'm getting into armada, and it's crazy seeing how far you've come in that time! Keep up the good work!
One of my favorite Imp ships is the gozanti even though it's not that pretty there is just something about seeing it with those tie fighters docked that just looks really cool
Ah, man i wish i could have affoard the Nadiri starhawk... My name is Adiri so when the starhawk lunched I was excited to have a ship that sounds like my name...
Thanks for the vids.. not only got into Armada and legion because of these, but have been able to make some well informed decisions on purchases. keep up the good work.
Love these Videos, I have only started and am picking up both Imperial and Rebel fleets but finding I am expanding as expansions are available to me, I sent in a list to my local game store and we are slowly ticking off as their supplier gets mini's in stock :)
I’ve played heaps of x-wing and only occasionally watched your videos. Decided to start playing armada and your channel has been a great resource. First Rebel ship - Starhawk! Imp is chimera. Now all I have to do is wait for the core set to arrive :-D
Thinking about hopping currently doing some research on the game. Thank your for your help explaining the ships and reasons to purchase one over the other.
Home One was the first expansion I got because well Ackbar and it's the flagship. And 4 years later, Defiance is still my favorite singular ship and ends up in my best lists.
@@MitchelShuey06 I don't have Armada due to the hefty price tag, but my dream is to play a massive game running all three. Independance + extended comms or whatever + adar tallon or raymus antilles + b wings = amazing
I didn't even really know about Armada until I was looking for a model of the Chimaera. I found it for the Armada game. So I am researching how to play and what to buy. These videos are very great and helpful. Also, is that a Chimaera symbol shirt?
Thanks for the great videos! I just purchased the core set as my first step into the miniatures world… my focus right now is building both sides to get my friends into it. Would you change anything about this list for 2022?
Interesting videos. I do not yet play but in other gaming I love to play Campaigns best and I see there are two published Campaigns for this game. What do you think of them?
So I've found Armada by accident. I was looking for Home One model, could only find small one from DeAgostini but because it never released in my country it was cheaper to buy Home One expansion pack for Armada... Then I bought Assault Frigate MK2 the same day... Maybe I'll get the core set one day and actually play the game, haha. Also amazing video, I believe that cool factory is very important for casual players. Edit: also got Rebel Squadrons 2 and GR-75.
assault frigate ugly? For me one of the coolest looking ships in all of star wars. looks really beefy and powerful. It also has the Heir to the Empire bonus! Nice fluffy matchup against Chimaera and Thrawn! 5/5 would command.
Have you heard anything about the new producers for legion? As in when will they begin production, new models etc. Love your vids. Keep safe, have fun.
Hey Crabbok, just discovered and subscribed to your channel today. I have been looking to get into one of the star wars games (rebellion, armada, x-wings 2E, imperial assault, etc.) and I have settled on Armada I think. It's the most unique and different and I've heard good things so could be fun. I wanted to know if this video and your empire on a budget video for this game were still up to date and accurate for June 2022. Thanks!
Took a long break from this game, but now getting back into it. Getting ships I missed out on in the later waves. This is such an amazing game. I wish they had more waves... but my wallet disagrees.
The Assault Frigate MK2 is the only ship that I'd be tempted to run a 3D printed replacement for the actual ship model, happily buy the expansion for everything but the actual ship. X3
Hey, just wondering what you would recommend for a starting point of Armada with the state of the game atm with AMG? I was going to grab a Separatist and Republic starter for my wife and I as we enjoy X-Wing but would just the basic starter be better if we're not going to get any new Sep/Rep ships released in the near future? Thanks and love the videos!
Well I've been a subscriber for a while now but I'm not sure if I've ever left a comment so, ta-da! I plan to start an Empire fleet sometime in the near future.
When will we see The Bulwark Mark III? Or will it ever come out? I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet and the game has been out for how long? Also the first time I saw the Assault Frigate MK2 was on the PC game Star Wars Rebellion
gonna go with 1 Core Set 1 MC80 Liberty 1 Imperial Star Destroyer Next: 2: Arquitens 2: Raiders 2: CR90’s 1: Neb B 1: Reb Squadron pack 2: Imp Squadron Pack its alot
Hi ! I was wondering if it made any sense to have multiple identical MC-80 Liberty ? I know I'd get some useless cards but I play with the french version of the game (my kids don't speak English) and we won't get the new upgraded cards ... or anything else anymore it seems and I'm not on a budget ^^
didn't know about the card give aways. how does that work? do you send someone a card through mail or what? are they cards you can get in some of the upgrade packs or special cards of some sort?
The problem with the original starter is that the upgrade cards in the individual reprints were so important, not that is fixed, so I wonder if they will do new separate rebel and imperial starters?
@@MitchelShuey06 Nope 🤦♂️ They would for sure, not stuff 1x large base and 2x medium base ship into a starter, aint going to happen. IMHO an Imperial Starter would realistically be something like 1x VSD, 2x Raiders (Or 1x Raider + 1x Arquitens) and 4x TIE fighters. A Rebel Starter would most likely be 1x AF2, 1x Neb-B, 1x CR90 and 4 X-wings. This way all the Starters from the four factions would be of roughly same size and strength. 🤔🤔🤔
Not sure if the rebel starter fleet would include an NBF, I would bet two corvette or two hammerheads with that AFII and 3 x-wings , this means you can be under 200 points with no upgrades and comparative with the other two starters. I agree, the imps would be a Vic and two Raiders with 4 TIEs for the same reasons.
They should make new starter packs for the Rebels and Empire that are like the clone wars ones the Rebels could have a liberator class cruiser and 2 DP20 corvettes and the Empire could have a Dreadnought heavy cruiser and 2 Tartan class corvettes
This video brings back good memories of getting into the game 3 years ago and pouring over Crabbok’s original What To Buy videos, taking notes about where to get upgrades and putting together terrible lists that flew apart but were a lot of fun
As an Empire player I started by just buying an SSD, starting materials , and one of each fighter pack. Worked well.
Lol
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!
@@nathaniellazo5912 FOR THE EMPIRE! DEATH TO THE TRAITORS! ALL HAIL HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR PALPATINE!
The Executer and Boba fett. Don't need anything else.
I personally don’t play competitively, I just own Armada as I would any other board game. This means that if I get an expansion for one faction, I need to get one for the other faction too, which means I don’t have any ships larger than medium. This makes the Pelta actually really nice, it’s one of the tangiest ships I can get for the rebels at $30 dollars or less, so it usually serves as my rebel flagship.
For those who are wondering : The Assault Frigate MK II is first scene in Empire At War, a PC RTS Game first released in 2006, and its design is similar to the Nebula B Frigates and Mon Colamari Star Ships
it's a funky mix of their design features and i love it for that
Just starting out and my first rebel ship is the starhawk let’s go
No Rebel painted SSD?
Man your Rich 👍
They need to add a Viscount or MC90s or Nebula SDs, so many bad ass late NR ships.
I wish they would add the MC85 star cruiser with exceptional shields and squadron carrying but with a high cost at around 150-160pts. I think it should be a broadside ship like the home one but more speed (speed 3) hull value 13
our game table is a no-phone-zone. dice abounds!
Another great informative video. It is worth noting the excellent upgrade pack also has a zip baggy with tokens tucked in. I was very pleased with this upgrade as the Imp Arquitens has at least 2, IIRC, upgrade cards not in any Rebel exp - reinforced blast doors and dual laser turrets(?) and the notorious SSD I believe has a Fleet Support upgrade also not avail to the Rebels. So this pack provides them, I presume.
As an aside, funny Navy story came to mind when you mentioned how some folks do not consider the Rebel Gr-75s as "warships". Once upon a time on board my last ship (LSD which "transports WWW Marines, X, M1 MBTs, Y various Humvees and Z 105mms) I was up on the bridge. Someone made a comment about the ship and a Lieutenant said "well, it's not like this is a real warship", just as the Captain entered the bridge. 👀😖🤣🤣🤣
So glad to see you making these videos, Crabs. New players are flowing in and I'm glad there's a way people can easily see what's most efficient.
Thank you for all of your hard work. On Thanksgiving I was in the hospital icu again. This time, (there have been many,lol) they tagged me with terminal chronic acute kidney failure. It is slamming me right into instant retirement due to illness. Im only 40 and plan on sticking around for a long time but now with all of the time I now have u decided to dive into all of the stuff I loved or wanted as a kid. Armada and games like warhammer 40k have always been something I wanted to get into. Bought the starter box, the imperial star destoyer, the profundity, and a rebel and empire squadron pack. I think some more dice and that expansion card pack might be next. Im most likely going to mostly play alone so I'm trying to build 2 competitive and balanced armies. Any other suggestions to go with what I have so far would be greatly appreciated. Love the show, sorry about this mini novel of a message, lol, and keep up the great work. You have a new fan and I will be watching, lol. You ARE my star wars gaming source now.... may the force continue to be with you.
There needs to be a crossover mission to combine armadas and legion. Seems like a match made on heaven imho, or maybe come out with armada sized ground units. Would be awesome to run a two table space/planetary war.
That does sound fun
Did you get the Imperial Star Destroyer or the Chimira
Sorry to hear! Hopefully Star Wars gaming can keep bringing you some happiness!
Thanks guys, I think as long as I star in pre Disney Star Wars I’ll be good, lol. I grabbed the imperial star destroyer. Chimera is in the wish list.
Hey Crabbok! So I've been slowly going through your content. We chatted on one of your other videos and I mentioned my play group was restarting and I had recently made a trade and acquired my buddies Rebel collection. The funny thing is, it included literally everything you have in this video minus the card upgrade, an extra set of dice, the Hammer heads, the Profundity and the Starhawk. I'm gonna totally take your advice, grab that card upgrade set, an extra set of dice. This video might be 3 years old, but it still served as a fantastic guide I'm gonna send to my friends.
Love your vids man! I started playing x-wing a couple years back and now I'm getting into armada, and it's crazy seeing how far you've come in that time! Keep up the good work!
These 'What to buy first' videos were what got me into Armada (back in 2018). Thank you.
armada - what to buy first on a budget (rebels) 2021, if you can find them in stock anywhere
Star Wars has this weird sweet spot where the ugly ships are ugly in a nice way....
They always have a more utilitarian look than Star Trek. Especially once the JJ Abrams movies came out.
@@Mitharan23 tbf, Lower Decks has been killing it with the ship designs.
The only really ugly ship in Star Wars, in my opinion, is the assult frigate mark 2
One of my favorite Imp ships is the gozanti even though it's not that pretty there is just something about seeing it with those tie fighters docked that just looks really cool
@@hailspqr5979 if I could have one in real life that would be amazing because of how easy they are to operate.
I'm a purely Imperial player, but these videos are still fun to watch!
I love the detail on these ships, its nice to see that most of them are high quality
Thanks Crabbok I needed this for Christmas 🎄!!!
Ah, man i wish i could have affoard the Nadiri starhawk...
My name is Adiri so when the starhawk lunched I was excited to have a ship that sounds like my name...
Appreciate your consistent release of new content and videos.
"Everyone needs a corset."
Vader: Be careful not to CHOKE on your dinner, Joffrey.
Such a helpful video. Looking forward to buying into Rebels in January!!!
Thanks for updated list Crabbok! I’m trying to get my friends into the game and this will help a lot.
Definitely love the MC75, Such a cool model
Thanks for the vids.. not only got into Armada and legion because of these, but have been able to make some well informed decisions on purchases. keep up the good work.
I was not aware of that factoid about the Starhawk! That makes it a little bit cooler in my mind...
Love these Videos, I have only started and am picking up both Imperial and Rebel fleets but finding I am expanding as expansions are available to me, I sent in a list to my local game store and we are slowly ticking off as their supplier gets mini's in stock :)
I’ve played heaps of x-wing and only occasionally watched your videos. Decided to start playing armada and your channel has been a great resource. First Rebel ship - Starhawk! Imp is chimera. Now all I have to do is wait for the core set to arrive :-D
Learned a lot from your videos just getting into armada and enjoying it
Same
just picking armada back up, your vids have been invaluable. keep it up.
The most valuable thing is having a community of fellow players nearby to play with. Invest time in introducing and growing the local player base.
I approve of this list! It’s interesting to decide what to buy when you don’t have to worry about what cards come with it
I bought into armada before I was ill. I like it and when I took it to school for the board game club, they loved it.
Aw man, hope you get better
@@dunamoose3446 thank you
Thanks for the great videos Crabbok, Merry Christmas
Thinking about hopping currently doing some research on the game. Thank your for your help explaining the ships and reasons to purchase one over the other.
Home One was the first expansion I got because well Ackbar and it's the flagship. And 4 years later, Defiance is still my favorite singular ship and ends up in my best lists.
I have never used defiance, but now that you said that I'll have to try it out
Ever tried independance?
I have once. However I prefer Home One, though I just read what Defiance does and I will definitely be trying it.
@@MitchelShuey06 I don't have Armada due to the hefty price tag, but my dream is to play a massive game running all three. Independance + extended comms or whatever + adar tallon or raymus antilles + b wings = amazing
@@Sascha5 that does sound really good
I didn't even really know about Armada until I was looking for a model of the Chimaera. I found it for the Armada game. So I am researching how to play and what to buy. These videos are very great and helpful. Also, is that a Chimaera symbol shirt?
thanks brother, I’ve been getting into armada recently and this has been a real help
Thanks for the timely video!!
That Starhawk model looks really cool
Always the best channel for Star Wars Armada. Do you know if it is possible to play either Campaign in a solo mode?
Just getting into Armada soon, and this stuff is super helpful! Thanks!
It really helps to have an easy guide for what to buy. Thank you.
Definitely going to grab Home One!
I ordered a home one, it will be my first ship, then I will get the core set
Thanks for the great videos! I just purchased the core set as my first step into the miniatures world… my focus right now is building both sides to get my friends into it. Would you change anything about this list for 2022?
Just got the dice pack and starter kit today! Let’s get started!
Thank you just started my collection and your videos are very helpful
Interesting videos. I do not yet play but in other gaming I love to play Campaigns best and I see there are two published Campaigns for this game. What do you think of them?
So I've found Armada by accident. I was looking for Home One model, could only find small one from DeAgostini but because it never released in my country it was cheaper to buy Home One expansion pack for Armada... Then I bought Assault Frigate MK2 the same day... Maybe I'll get the core set one day and actually play the game, haha. Also amazing video, I believe that cool factory is very important for casual players.
Edit: also got Rebel Squadrons 2 and GR-75.
I have 2 core sets, 2 cr-90s, 2 neb-bs, 2 gr75s, 1 pelta, 1 mc30, 1 assault frigrate, 1 liberty, 1 home one, 1 vsd, 1 gozanti, 1 raider, 2 arquitens light cruisers, 1 gladiator, 2 interdictors, 1 quasar, 1 imperial class star destroyer, 1 rouge's and villains, 1 squadron pack number 1 for each faction. And I still want more....
As a new player, these are super helpful, many thanks!
assault frigate ugly? For me one of the coolest looking ships in all of star wars. looks really beefy and powerful. It also has the Heir to the Empire bonus! Nice fluffy matchup against Chimaera and Thrawn! 5/5 would command.
good video on what to buy. for me, it's flying what I like so rebels are a hodge podge trying to make a difference.
Just starting in the game . The video was really helpful thank you
Great list love all the assault frigates and mc30's
Awesome info for beginners like myself! Keep up with the videos!
Have you heard anything about the new producers for legion? As in when will they begin production, new models etc. Love your vids. Keep safe, have fun.
Just started getting back into Armada with the wife thanks to your videos
Interesting fact about the Assault Frigate Mark II.
The first appearance of the ship was in Empire at War.
Hey Crabbok, just discovered and subscribed to your channel today. I have been looking to get into one of the star wars games (rebellion, armada, x-wings 2E, imperial assault, etc.) and I have settled on Armada I think. It's the most unique and different and I've heard good things so could be fun. I wanted to know if this video and your empire on a budget video for this game were still up to date and accurate for June 2022. Thanks!
Yeah they are still relevant. Haven't had much new stuff in awhile.
I really need to grab a couple of those upgrade card packs! Really is a game changer
Thanks for Video. After I build my empire fleets then use your videos for Rebels.
I like how your budget list included almost the entirety of the faction lineup lol.
That was the point. It’s sort of ranking them all by value.
Thanks for the updated guide!
I couldn't really find the flotillas for cheap. Cheapest I found was $35
Took a long break from this game, but now getting back into it. Getting ships I missed out on in the later waves. This is such an amazing game. I wish they had more waves... but my wallet disagrees.
The Assault Frigate MK2 is the only ship that I'd be tempted to run a 3D printed replacement for the actual ship model, happily buy the expansion for everything but the actual ship. X3
Great vids, super helpful! 👍🏽 👍🏽
Just started looking to play your videos helped so much thank you, I also joined you discord hope to hear from you soon
ahh another great list, certainly some big changes with the upgrade card pack now!
Just starting Armada!
Thank you for the breakdown and details as i just started in armada. What is your take on collecting all 4 factions
Very informative, I used to play Star Trek, sold everything
Which one is better to start with money wise? Like cheaper I’m not worried about winning As much as just playing
Empire, I would say.
Well that made me want some MC30s
I spend a bit for Empire this Xmas, so I'm just gonna check how much more I need to spend to play a balanced game with my friends lol
Hey, just wondering what you would recommend for a starting point of Armada with the state of the game atm with AMG?
I was going to grab a Separatist and Republic starter for my wife and I as we enjoy X-Wing but would just the basic starter be better if we're not going to get any new Sep/Rep ships released in the near future?
Thanks and love the videos!
Don’t know if you’ve heard, but a new print and play expansion dropped today. Looks like AMG is booting armada back up!
So many more ships I need to get. And when COVID goes away hopefully I can go play people at some store.
Weird... I so like that Assault frigate! It was already top of my to buy list
I just got into it and Im immensely excited to crush these Imperial scoundrels
I like the look of the assault frigate
Well I've been a subscriber for a while now but I'm not sure if I've ever left a comment so, ta-da!
I plan to start an Empire fleet sometime in the near future.
heyyy love the channel. keep it up man!!!
When will we see The Bulwark Mark III?
Or will it ever come out?
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet and the game has been out for how long?
Also the first time I saw the Assault Frigate MK2 was on the PC game Star Wars Rebellion
Love your content
gonna go with
1 Core Set
1 MC80 Liberty
1 Imperial Star Destroyer
Next:
2: Arquitens
2: Raiders
2: CR90’s
1: Neb B
1: Reb Squadron pack
2: Imp Squadron Pack
its alot
Upgrade pack is great for my small fleet, I don't feel at so big a disadvantaged from small card pool
Just amazing, luv from Quebec!
My first rebel ship was mc80 Liberty. But I became a bit disappointed with that ship, because it doesn’t have a lot of variability.
Same
Been wanting to start my own fleet and get into the game.
Hi ! I was wondering if it made any sense to have multiple identical MC-80 Liberty ? I know I'd get some useless cards but I play with the french version of the game (my kids don't speak English) and we won't get the new upgraded cards ... or anything else anymore it seems and I'm not on a budget ^^
great info as always
didn't know about the card give aways.
how does that work? do you send someone a card through mail or what?
are they cards you can get in some of the upgrade packs or special cards of some sort?
The problem with the original starter is that the upgrade cards in the individual reprints were so important, not that is fixed, so I wonder if they will do new separate rebel and imperial starters?
It's possible. They could do an Imperial starter with mabet 2 Imperial Acclimators and 1 Imperial Venator
Not sure what would be in the Rebel on though
@@MitchelShuey06 Nope 🤦♂️
They would for sure, not stuff 1x large base and 2x medium base ship into a starter, aint going to happen.
IMHO an Imperial Starter would realistically be something like 1x VSD, 2x Raiders (Or 1x Raider + 1x Arquitens) and 4x TIE fighters.
A Rebel Starter would most likely be 1x AF2, 1x Neb-B, 1x CR90 and 4 X-wings.
This way all the Starters from the four factions would be of roughly same size and strength.
🤔🤔🤔
Not sure if the rebel starter fleet would include an NBF, I would bet two corvette or two hammerheads with that AFII and 3 x-wings , this means you can be under 200 points with no upgrades and comparative with the other two starters.
I agree, the imps would be a Vic and two Raiders with 4 TIEs for the same reasons.
@@kimleechristensen2679 maybe the rebels could include a Dornean Gunship, or two
I always loved the design of the rebel armada ships... Can't betray my empire boys though!
They should make new starter packs for the Rebels and Empire that are like the clone wars ones the Rebels could have a liberator class cruiser and 2 DP20 corvettes and the Empire could have a Dreadnought heavy cruiser and 2 Tartan class corvettes
Love this show
Thanks for these videos.
Random question when do you think they will add Sequels to Legion? I’d love to table Kylo Ren!
Throwing down a comment for the giveaway in the form of a terrible Christmas joke:
What does Santa build his rebellions on? Ho-Ho-Hope
Lol
My first buy other than the core was a cr 90 then pelta and then gr