Keith, that is one beautiful machine! I am just a grown kid playing with my Wilesco D-20 and soon D-22. I got distracted one day and left the D-20 running unattended. Of course, it ran dry and melted all the solder joints. Tried repairing the boiler by flux and solder with no success. Must be some oxides deep in the boiler end cap. Will have to remove it, wire wheel and resweat it with a ring of solder in the cap. This poor thing saw a lot of heat. Maybe I should just replace it for safety sake. Stupid mistake I will not do again. The D-22 is a twin cylinder model which I look forward to running. It shall generate electricity for me, 3 phase brushless motor into a rectifier bridge with capacitor storage. Should make an inefficient cell phone charger. Enjoy your videos and your Victoria Steamer.
Keith I want to thank you for sharing your world with us, your knowledge on the subject of model steam plants does seem to be very wide and deep I do love the sounds of steam engines running under a nice load of steam I do think that they sound better when running slower rather than flat out balls to the walls as it were have a good day and a better tomorrow
When I watch your videos, it reminds of my childhood watching episodes of ‘Rosy and Jim’. You have an incredibly relaxing voice sir and your videos are really interesting. Good Job!
Thank you Keith, for making an otherwise dull evening at home very interesting thanks to your video, I am a full size steamboat engineer and love your vids, Thanks!
Bonjour Keith, Beautiful steam plant, I agree with you. Besides this, the problem of the torch would justify a topic by itself. Based on my experience, ceramic burners are efficient for vertical or small horizontal boilers, but, to heat a 125 x 250 mm horizontal one, you need power and flow. Amicalement, Raphaël, .
Very nice engine and I spotted the taper pin you put in on the crank arm where you placed the copper washer .I sure enjoy watching you fix steam engines might give it a go one of these days thanks for sharing
You should try adding a load like a dc generator.. old school edison or westinghouse fan motor made into a generator.. would looks sweet. The late 1800’s early 1900’s petunia look with the gold leaf lettering..
Ah, I think I see where you put a *** in the *** where it joins to the *** beside the ***. Either that or you put some Loctite 666 on the reticulator for the wobblerizer. Look like a very nice find, and I imagine the boiler is a particular prize.
Those wobblerizers are tricky. I had a friend once that went through 3 of them before he realized that he was using the wrong size. Oh well, live and learn.
sounds like the crank end is loose ... i could hear it and was trying to see if the arm was hitting the casting or rocking when you were putting the washer on the bolt for a spacer then at end i noticed you changed the pin in crank arm that holds it to shaft
Beautiful plant. On the "junk" burner, could it be the 2 holes closest to the end of the nozzle are to close to the end causing exhaust air to be recycled back into the flame causing the burn out?
Water boils in a vacuum at room temperature all you need are two chambers and a condenser coil making it so the steam goes from one to the other passing through your engine or turbine as the steam condenses the vacuum is maintained so the energy requirements are minimal to start and a set amount of water to use.
I don't know what the part is called, but there's a shaft (sort of a countershaft) that transfers the motion from the eccentric rod to the valve gear - it runs transversely across the engine about 3/4" in front of the engine. Anyway, I see it is rocking back and forth a little (not rotationally of course, that is what it is supposed to do, but along the axis of the steam engine) as though it's bushings (if there are any) are worn or poorly fixed. I don't know whether that is normal or bad, or whether it would create any noise - but I thought I'd mention it.
Would the washer be better placed between the crank and connecting rod instead of on the outside? It seems like that would reduce side friction and rubbing between the two parts.
Gorgeous Plant Keith! Looks like the taper pin for the Crank Web was either loose or wore the hole egg shaped in the Web, so it was clunking and clattering on the crankshaft because of the rattle fit. I see you fitted a new possibly slightly larger taper pin that's securing the crankweb to the crankshaft nice and tight and it's done the trick.
I love your steam engine vids and I really appreciate your expertise. I've had a fascination with steam engines since I was a kid but I never had the opportunity.
That burner nozzle that keeps going out may be burning too lean, perhaps you could fiddle with it by partially blocking the air inlet(s) to see how it affects the flame. I rather like the brass housing on it too. -Just a guess, I have adjusted one burner nozzle with a tapered jet reamer I used on carburetors back when cars had carburetors. It worked!
been there a million times, read the book, seen the film & worn the T shirt, it is an entirely different science to carburettors, but I thank you for your expert advice . . . . .
Brilliant Keith...again! I just watched part 8 of the dual steam plant (the one with the hypnotic cyclops engine) - not realising there were 8 parts - but at least I now know how you wrap the pipes. When I was growing up in North Yorkshire the paint colour would have been called Menston White!! And do feel free to get in touch if you run out of village idiots - we've got more than our fair share in my Norfolk village. Btw, I'm guessing the steam at the front of frame at about 4' is not actually from the engine, but from a nice cup of Yorkshire tea...Dunno, I'm not an expert!!
for example, the steam engine itself looks like it has more valves. ive watched some videos of the stuart victoria steam engine now, but they all seem to be a bit different
Beautiful Steam Plant, but the tiles which the engine is mounted on really finishes it off. Do you know how this is done? Are these genuine miniature tiles? I'd like to be cheeky and pinch this idea, mixed with some stainless stanchions.
Sorry to bother you again Keith, but this engine is very similar to the one I'm bidding on. Could you give me a very rough estimate of what you think it's worth so I can know how much to bid up to? Thanks again!
Sorry John, I don't do free valuations and advice unless you are one of my Patreon supporters. www.patreon.com/keithappleton However, I notice that there is a Stuart Victoria on the UK Ebay currently, which looks to be very poorly made. I would not want to buy it.
I know it's just a model and a toy thingy, but what kind of power output does it have? Like could you turn it into a coffee grinder or perhaps put it on a bike?
Your howling noise from the ceramic burner is because of the secondary air inlet holes drawing air into the fire tube much like the valve on a brass musical instrument. It has a resonant frequency at certain flame settings because the air being drawn in is variable while the area of the air ports are fixed. Your shroud fixed the problem by allowing more air in bypassing the ports. The knocking sound? not my department. That's for the "lads" in the Mechanical Engineering Department to work out in the office down the hall.
So that's why I don't make enough money from the adverts ..... some people watch the ads thankfully ...... otherwise I would definitely stop making these videos . . . . .
Keith, that is one beautiful machine!
I am just a grown kid playing with my Wilesco D-20 and soon D-22. I got distracted one day and left the D-20 running unattended. Of course, it ran dry and melted all the solder joints. Tried repairing the boiler by flux and solder with no success. Must be some oxides deep in the boiler end cap. Will have to remove it, wire wheel and resweat it with a ring of solder in the cap. This poor thing saw a lot of heat. Maybe I should just replace it for safety sake.
Stupid mistake I will not do again. The D-22 is a twin cylinder model which I look forward to running. It shall generate electricity for me, 3 phase brushless motor into a rectifier bridge with capacitor storage. Should make an inefficient cell phone charger.
Enjoy your videos and your Victoria Steamer.
Merci beaucoup pour le soutitrage et les explications détaillées c'est très agréable et surtout cette très belle machine
Lovely model. Having now watched you rehabilitate several, it was extremely pleasing to see one work so nicely on the first go.
Made my afternoon watching these videos.. very nice.
Keith I want to thank you for sharing your world with us,
your knowledge on the subject of model steam plants does seem to be very wide and deep
I do love the sounds of steam engines running under a nice load of steam I do think that they sound better when running slower rather than flat out balls to the walls as it were
have a good day and a better tomorrow
That is the coolest thing I've ever seen. Great video.
Glad you liked it!
nice one- like the red tile with the lighter wood boiler. runs nice too
When I watch your videos, it reminds of my childhood watching episodes of ‘Rosy and Jim’. You have an incredibly relaxing voice sir and your videos are really interesting. Good Job!
Thank you Keith, for making an otherwise dull evening at home very interesting thanks to your video, I am a full size steamboat engineer and love your vids,
Thanks!
Bonjour Keith,
Beautiful steam plant, I agree with you. Besides this, the problem of the torch would justify a topic by itself. Based on my experience, ceramic burners are efficient for vertical or small horizontal boilers, but, to heat a 125 x 250 mm horizontal one, you need power and flow.
Amicalement, Raphaël, .
I've been trying to buy a model steam but it appears Kieth now owns all of them. lol Great collection dear Sir.
Very nice engine and I spotted the taper pin you put in on the crank arm where you placed the copper washer .I sure enjoy watching you fix steam engines might give it a go one of these days thanks for sharing
A piece of fine art. Absolutely beautiful.
Nice quiet running engine.
You should try adding a load like a dc generator.. old school edison or westinghouse fan motor made into a generator.. would looks sweet. The late 1800’s early 1900’s petunia look with the gold leaf lettering..
Ah, I think I see where you put a *** in the *** where it joins to the *** beside the ***. Either that or you put some Loctite 666 on the reticulator for the wobblerizer.
Look like a very nice find, and I imagine the boiler is a particular prize.
Those wobblerizers are tricky. I had a friend once that went through 3 of them before he realized that he was using the wrong size. Oh well, live and learn.
Hi Keith... this maschine is special... 😎 thanks for sharing the details... Christoph
sounds like the crank end is loose ... i could hear it and was trying to see if the arm was hitting the casting or rocking when you were putting the washer on the bolt for a spacer then at end i noticed you changed the pin in crank arm that holds it to shaft
Very nice !
Beautiful plant. On the "junk" burner, could it be the 2 holes closest to the end of the nozzle are to close to the end causing exhaust air to be recycled back into the flame causing the burn out?
Water boils in a vacuum at room temperature all you need are two chambers and a condenser coil making it so the steam goes from one to the other passing through your engine or turbine as the steam condenses the vacuum is maintained so the energy requirements are minimal to start and a set amount of water to use.
I don't know what the part is called, but there's a shaft (sort of a countershaft) that transfers the motion from the eccentric rod to the valve gear - it runs transversely across the engine about 3/4" in front of the engine. Anyway, I see it is rocking back and forth a little (not rotationally of course, that is what it is supposed to do, but along the axis of the steam engine) as though it's bushings (if there are any) are worn or poorly fixed. I don't know whether that is normal or bad, or whether it would create any noise - but I thought I'd mention it.
It's not making noise, but it looks like the governor drive band is rubbing the eccentric rod.
Thanks for the videos, I enjoy them.
Would the washer be better placed between the crank and connecting rod instead of on the outside? It seems like that would reduce side friction and rubbing between the two parts.
Tried it both ways - not everything I do goes on the video :-)))
Keith Appleton I gotcha. I just wanted to show how smart I am...*eye roll*
thats were i would of put the washer to lol
Nice steam plant
Great engine, thanks!
Gorgeous Plant Keith! Looks like the taper pin for the Crank Web was either loose or wore the hole egg shaped in the Web, so it was clunking and clattering on the crankshaft because of the rattle fit. I see you fitted a new possibly slightly larger taper pin that's securing the crankweb to the crankshaft nice and tight and it's done the trick.
Yep - well spotted :-))))
I love your steam engine vids and I really appreciate your expertise. I've had a fascination with steam engines since I was a kid but I never had the opportunity.
Amazing video. Great audio quality. Thanks so much for letting us hear the engine, even if it's super quiet! So amazing.
Thank you for an interesting video.
Glad you enjoyed it {:-)))
The big end cheek was loose on the crank? I believe I see some additional pinning in your last bit of video.
Very nice indeed!
That burner nozzle that keeps going out may be burning too lean, perhaps you could fiddle with it by partially blocking the air inlet(s) to see how it affects the flame. I rather like the brass housing on it too. -Just a guess, I have adjusted one burner nozzle with a tapered jet reamer I used on carburetors back when cars had carburetors. It worked!
been there a million times, read the book, seen the film & worn the T shirt, it is an entirely different science to carburettors, but I thank you for your expert advice . . . . .
I'm surprised i actually did notice a difference after you fixed the knocking. I normally never spot these things.
Brilliant Keith...again! I just watched part 8 of the dual steam plant (the one with the hypnotic cyclops engine) - not realising there were 8 parts - but at least I now know how you wrap the pipes. When I was growing up in North Yorkshire the paint colour would have been called Menston White!! And do feel free to get in touch if you run out of village idiots - we've got more than our fair share in my Norfolk village.
Btw, I'm guessing the steam at the front of frame at about 4' is not actually from the engine, but from a nice cup of Yorkshire tea...Dunno, I'm not an expert!!
You should build a dynamometer and do a series of videos testing all of your engines under load to see how much power they make.
I love steam engines
Hey Keith, I have become quite the fan.
I have opened a patreon account.
Good stuff!
Thanks Paul, I appreciate it :-))))
where could i get one of those? what of this is custom made or added by yoou?
for example, the steam engine itself looks like it has more valves. ive watched some videos of the stuart victoria steam engine now, but they all seem to be a bit different
Try Stuart Models (www.stuartmodels.com) - they produce pre-machined kits.
This engine has drain taps fitted and also has a governor fitted . . . . .
If you think your 'howl' was loud listen to a Stanley steamer starting..
What would be a good engine to start with. Something not too hard but a little bit challenging
The one in this video - A Stuart Models Victoria.
Beautiful Steam Plant, but the tiles which the engine is mounted on really finishes it off. Do you know how this is done? Are these genuine miniature tiles?
I'd like to be cheeky and pinch this idea, mixed with some stainless stanchions.
No, it's not tiles, it is printed on sticky backed Vinyl, similar to the stuff that used to be called "Fablon". I agree, it looks the part .....
Keith Appleton, Oh I see, it fooled me. That's very effective! Many thanks for revealing that secret!
Would machining the crankpin (reducing its length) work instead of putting a washer?
Yes I could do that - but it's not necessary - the washer works fine . . .
Sorry to bother you again Keith, but this engine is very similar to the one I'm bidding on. Could you give me a very rough estimate of what you think it's worth so I can know how much to bid up to?
Thanks again!
I just wanted to say also, thanks for your videos. They're fantastic, informative, and you have some beautiful engines.
Sorry John, I don't do free valuations and advice unless you are one of my Patreon supporters. www.patreon.com/keithappleton However, I notice that there is a Stuart Victoria on the UK Ebay currently, which looks to be very poorly made. I would not want to buy it.
Very nice
I reckon it's too much clearance in the guide blocks.
Lovely engine BTW.
The guide blocks are tight, it is a little play in the Connecting Rod that's causing the noise - it needs bushing :-)))
I know it's just a model and a toy thingy, but what kind of power output does it have? Like could you turn it into a coffee grinder or perhaps put it on a bike?
Probably .....
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Your howling noise from the ceramic burner is because of the secondary air inlet holes drawing air into the fire tube much like the valve on a brass musical instrument. It has a resonant frequency at certain flame settings because the air being drawn in is variable while the area of the air ports are fixed. Your shroud fixed the problem by allowing more air in bypassing the ports.
The knocking sound? not my department. That's for the "lads" in the Mechanical Engineering Department to work out in the office down the hall.
Balls out!
How do I identify a steam engine. RGale
How large, as in the diameter, is the piston in this engine?
1 inch
I have a stuart 10v steam engine and it wont run. can you help me?
it is only pushing down all the time
I love your videos
Kieth does a video on how to valve time these type of steam engines.This would be a good start for you.Cheers.
Big end repair? Modified ?
Coming soon ..... on the next video
So how much did you pay for it??
Just enough and not too much . . . .
Skip ad, hit 'like' then watch video. :)
So that's why I don't make enough money from the adverts ..... some people watch the ads thankfully ...... otherwise I would definitely stop making these videos . . . . .
Martin Zero sent me here
I just watched his latest video, a nice presentation.
Oiiiy, I can hardly hear anything other than and slight background mechanical wombly sound. WOWSERS!
Have you ever consider building a Calliope?
Not really, I don't have the time and I have some quite good digital samples in my recording studio keyboard sound collection :-))))
What!? you're not using coal?
I get that England is small but he acted like 165 miles is a lot! 😂😂 200 miles gets you to the nearest big city here in texas
Everything is bigger in Texas }:-)))
165 miles is still a 2.5 hour drive whether you are in Texas or Labrador.
So is that spinny thing with the balls (tee hee).....the governor?