Usually, Warframe is an underrated game, not only Warframes can use one weapon, they can also be skilled with over 500 weapons & has absurd amount of arsenal. So for speeds, Excalibur can block a beam of light from his sword & Raiden can activate blade mode, in which rain drops aren’t even moving. When you compare it, their speeds are almost even, but Raiden’s blade mode is a bit faster. Excalibur is more stronger and durable, like the time he was with Atlas (which he is stronger than Excalibur), who can vaporize a giant asteroid that can kill the dinosaurs. Raiden can destroy a stadium-size metal gear excelsius, slicing through a building metal gear robot, which is not as impressive. The high frequency blade is really unique but it can not cut through everything, because when he fought Senator Armstrong, he broke his blade in half with his nano-machines (son!), and he needed the Murasama to finish him. And even if Raiden can critically damage him, the Teno that is operating the Warframe would still survive with no harm. Raiden can be overwhelmed with sheer quantity, because of Excalibur’s arsenal. Warframes can even have guns that can freeze you in place, also has a jetpack that can make them fly that can even shoot miniature black holes. While Raiden is a bit faster, but he could not reach Excalibur’s arsenal & power.
@tizzianopenaloza5840a t least continent ap. Which like a million haxs and lots of endurance and abilities Also, unlike Raiden, in lore warframes don't run out of energy so he can spam stuff like slash dash (which turns you to energy making you invincible) Radial blind(self explanatory) Radial javelins(danmaku light blades) Exalted blade (pure energy sword)
Strength-Excalibur Speed-Raiden>= Combat speed- Raiden takes it with blade mode Durability-excal (shields) Endurance-excal (can self revive 3 times) can take attacks from sentients that cN bypass Durability Power-Excalibur (lore warframes don't need energy to activate abilities ) Hax-excal (invulnerability, biological manipulation, resurrection, energy projection, durability neg) Iq,biq,skill-dependant on operator. So goes to Raiden Exp- debatable Combat-raiden Ap-excal(numerous ways to bypass durability) Excalibur low mid or mid diff
Four (or probably closer to three and a half), if you consider that Warframes use a template from infested people, most likely powerful soldiers or experts in relevant fields, and thus probably carry over their skills into the frame itself.
Raiden gets experience if you remember Warframes and Tenno are suppressed of all memory and skills only when they are awakened and restart their learning so yeah Raiden gets it
@@Overrated7901 wile yes the tenno and warframe are suppresed the drifer is not And it due to the paradoxical nature of duverie May have thousands or millions of years worth of experience from endless runs, even if you want to say that duvire Has linear time than that means that the drifter has bin fighting from shortly after the Zeramin incident to the new war That would still put them at hundreds to thousands of years of fighting experience
I was gonna say, Warframe have been around for so damn long in lore. Plus mods and stuff, so really it's quite a huge difference in experience between them. Huge difference in everything really
@@carbonrobinthat doesn't actually mean anything as tenno are less emotional and basically they are always in "reaper mode" also tech scaling means that tenno had to be better at more things than warframes Also also tenno are extremly intellegent being able to fight new creatures whenever they see it
Sorry but the warframes battle experience is far greater then raidens. Warframes are also much more versatile then Raiden as lore wise they aren't restricted to the 4 powers they have in game.
Fun fact: *Excalibur has 1% power of atlas who is a warframe that punched a asteroid that can wipe out the dinosaurs, to be more specific that specific asteroid had over 66 million kilotons of tnt that can obliterate raiden in mere seconds.*
"Raiden has more experience"- my ass. The Tenno can use hundreds of weapons, have warframes capable of disrupting the concept of reality, and the power of the void. This isnt even counting things like Necramechs or the Railjack. A squad of 4 Tenno could probably murder all of Earth or even the entire Origin system if they wished.
Hell, nova alone can turn every organic and inorganic matter into a nuke She can literally topple cities, turn people as walking atom bombs and turn a populated area into a radioactive wasteland with in minutes if she have to
You put a human up against a war machine with the power of a nuclear bomb in each finger. Warframes kill sentients, sentients in lore are immortal and invulnerable To everything other than void energy. And only the tenno has void powers because they made a deal with god.
Warframes are also created from a virus resembling the Black Light virus from the Prototype game. This infection is able to fuse organic matter with almost any other material, it is also quite contagious. Once infected, Raiden can become a kind of warframe himself.
I feel experience should also go to the operator of an ancient war machine sence childhood. Not the edgy cyber samurai. Regardless I do agree with the end result.
Isso ainda por cima até que faz sentido os warframes são armas da guerra antiga projetados para aguentar até o vácuo do espaço e ainda por cima tem as habilidades de um ninja sem falar das habilidades únicas de cada um
I'd say stronger than uni especially looking at limbo who learned to travel between time and space and can stop time and prothea who practically created a dimension (the granum void)
I think excalibur also takes the Experience and battle IQ part of this engagement....seeing as how warframes were created to fight off the infested and the Sentient...they been at war for a long while.
i agree that Excalibur would win mainly because of his technology that allows him to disable others weapons and in terms of speed both could react to light but raiden did it in closer range so i guess he have around 7% speed advantege
A Warframe is a damn War Machine. Tennos been fighting for years in all kinds of Wars, their experience is far ahead anything Raiden ever dealt with and more. Excal would break Raiden in so many pieces and use him for spare parts. Then Take his weapon an make it 400 times better.
If that fight was lore accurate It would be over with in seconds Excalibur would just use his blind and then dash to slice raiden in two He doesnt even need his spectral blade
Canonically speaking Excalibur wins in terms of intellect and experience Caz we are not actually Juding Excalibur on that. Anti spoiler wise we are judging someone else on anything involving mental capacity
Funny enough I now am think he takes the dub on Intellect as well since he could learn as fast as plunging a USB drive in but also you can't tell me that he wouldn't learn anything within 100's of years compared to Raiden who only knows earth and like 40 year? (i didn't do my home work on how old he is).
Haver un Warframe tiene mucha más experiencia en combate por qué llevan milenios existiendo a diferencia de Raiden que su experiencia se basa cada ves que lo derritan en combate para regresarlo con un upgrade mamalon
So battle experience. The Tenno who used the Warframes for many years prior to the slaughter of the Orokin who now more then like a millennium later wake up and know immediately how to use their frames, weapons and set off immediately without training to kill. Raiden would get bodied by Clem. Oh and the tenno are like 13 years old.
"Intelelct and battle IQ" here's a lesson in warframe, The warframes themselves existed for thousands of years. Darvo a character in game has lived for 105 years and is treated like a child. The Dax used for warframes are peak human, just imagine if Batman had Raidens tech body, those are dax. And they are fodder compared to warframes because you take that same Dax, and amp their power by the helminth and you get world breakers. This is also Base excal, give him thermal sunder and Raiden won't be able to do anything. Because he can completely sap out Heat from 12 meters base with mods it's 30 meters. On top of that, the sword is void. and the augment for it is how it is described. Void doesn't care for the material plane and neither does his sword made of it.
Wait till this guy hears about Warframe being like 4 or 5 practically god-like entities put into one body with the ability to kill sentients (basically celestials)
wait what? i have played mgrr but not much warframe so can someone explain how raiden who has lifte multiple tons and cut throug steel like warm melted butter loose to the warframe?
Excalibur has over 100 years of pure war, so I think he takes the dub on Experience as well as Battle IQ cause they were build for fighting or War other wise it wouldn't be Warframe.
Lmfao a Warframe has eons of experience and knowledge of the void, weapons, and everything else. No way does Raiden have more iq and battle iq than any Warframe.
For the actual Tenno, Guardians would fold. nothing in a guardians arsenal can do enough damage and bypass void powers, the same powers that came from an Eldritch God. ive seen guardian lore and other stuff since i have 5k hours in D2. Guardians can die via a stray bullet, permanently died via cabal guns, eliksni guns, vex guns(almost sagira), and hive magic. And got carpet bombed by petra and couldn't revive. 1 guardian was even stuck inside the almighty frozen in time and only his ghost remains. Ghosts have been killed by a ton of things, Bombs, bullets, artillery, we know even ghost takes damage from normal electricity. We saw Cabal in the red war with a Necklace filled with ghosts, Tangled shore has bags of ghosts, In D1 you even see dead ghosts on the moon. So yeah safe to say they are fragile, the Cayde feat of the thorn bullet was meant for him not the ghost. The books even clarified that it was meant for him and it would disable his light for a time. Like how the disruptors of the cabal disabled Zavalas light. Ghosts are just tech using powers that can be said as magic. As for guardians, i don't see anyone outside of Pre nerf osiris doing work. Even in my best estimates 50 raid ready guardians are needed to bring down a Lore accurate loki with no weapons. And at least less than 10 would be alive. As for THEE Guardians vs THEE tenno. Tenno wins. People quoted the fanfics of Calus as actual lore feats when it is just his own power fantasy. Fiction within fiction. We see in gameplay and in lore, THEE guardians outsmarts stuff not overpowers them. Otherwise we'd already blown up the Labs of clovis bray to smithereens to get to Taniks. Over and over in lore and in gameplay, THEE guardians and Guardians around the system except for Osiris,Ikora and Saint-14, needs to outsmart stuff. The Guardian can't just infinite cast Nova Bomb the same way Inaros covered the entire planet of mars in a sandstorm so destructive, Grineer galleon ships got mangled. Ships mind you that are 2.3 Km long. He mangled tons of them in a grineer invasion while also doing the same things to massive infested hives. So dude is fighting 2 at once. Low tier frames i can see guardians killing, Loki and Vauban and both don't have weapons. Anything above those 2, would clean house. It's all because the difference in lore of both games and Destiny lore not really straying too far from gameplay even if it did only be a few inches like Osiris spam casting supers. Warframes can go from yeah that's 1:1 with lore to, destroying the last city and neomuna by just sneezing. the Paracausal stuff is just fancy words for paranormal and super natural, since it's the same thing as puffing fire out of your hands. That's paracausal, anything that bends the laws of physics. Summoning weapons made out of elements and summoning energy out of thin air. If that's the major factor, we see in warframe that breaking physics is the most normal thing the Orokin did that a bunch way back. So in conclusion, Guardians lose. They can't outsmart something that would just. Carpet bomb them to no end. As for the Oryx and Vex raids, all we did was outsmart both, Oryx via bomb logic, and Vex via jsut the sheer fact that the light bends the natural law so their hard coded numbers have a hard time understanding. And Atheon, ive seen people upscale that to somehow guardians being not affected by time, when we can see the corpse of multiple guardians in there. In reality, we just crashed the calendar software of the Vex. And people saying they can time travel is a misconception from them simulating Ultra realistic futures, that's all they do, and sometimes collect Golden Age relics. Wish i can find the flat speakers there put it on ghost shells and have him play my mixtapes. What's more proof that Ghosts are literally just tech, Drifters ghost. The ghosts are conduits providing power, Light, Darkness and Hive Magic and strand are the only things worth noting and all of them are used physically. Warframe's Void is more similar to the warp with the 40k gods being lower than Wally, Fantasy versions can be debated though. Edit: if i remember right Izanagi also killed ghosts. So really anything with high fire power can kill ghosts.
Usually, Warframe is an underrated game, not only Warframes can use one weapon, they can also be skilled with over 500 weapons & has absurd amount of arsenal.
So for speeds, Excalibur can block a beam of light from his sword & Raiden can activate blade mode, in which rain drops aren’t even moving. When you compare it, their speeds are almost even, but Raiden’s blade mode is a bit faster.
Excalibur is more stronger and durable, like the time he was with Atlas (which he is stronger than Excalibur), who can vaporize a giant asteroid that can kill the dinosaurs. Raiden can destroy a stadium-size metal gear excelsius, slicing through a building metal gear robot, which is not as impressive. The high frequency blade is really unique but it can not cut through everything, because when he fought Senator Armstrong, he broke his blade in half with his nano-machines (son!), and he needed the Murasama to finish him. And even if Raiden can critically damage him, the Teno that is operating the Warframe would still survive with no harm.
Raiden can be overwhelmed with sheer quantity, because of Excalibur’s arsenal. Warframes can even have guns that can freeze you in place, also has a jetpack that can make them fly that can even shoot miniature black holes. While Raiden is a bit faster, but he could not reach Excalibur’s arsenal & power.
My favorite frame is ash prime ima soon get him
@@adrianelanderos5920 I don’t know about it, but it’s a long time since I’ve played Warframe. I need to play more one day.
Raiden is city and FTL level, Scaling for Excalibur please?
@tizzianopenaloza5840a t least continent ap. Which like a million haxs and lots of endurance and abilities
Also, unlike Raiden, in lore warframes don't run out of energy so he can spam stuff like slash dash (which turns you to energy making you invincible)
Radial blind(self explanatory)
Radial javelins(danmaku light blades)
Exalted blade (pure energy sword)
Strength-Excalibur
Speed-Raiden>=
Combat speed- Raiden takes it with blade mode
Durability-excal (shields)
Endurance-excal (can self revive 3 times) can take attacks from sentients that cN bypass Durability
Power-Excalibur (lore warframes don't need energy to activate abilities )
Hax-excal (invulnerability, biological manipulation, resurrection, energy projection, durability neg)
Iq,biq,skill-dependant on operator. So goes to Raiden
Exp- debatable
Combat-raiden
Ap-excal(numerous ways to bypass durability)
Excalibur low mid or mid diff
Ah yes, a warframe, A Entity consisting of 3 different people That each have been fighting for hundreds of years is less experienced
Four (or probably closer to three and a half), if you consider that Warframes use a template from infested people, most likely powerful soldiers or experts in relevant fields, and thus probably carry over their skills into the frame itself.
It’s more like 5-infinity lol. the Dax inside, the helminth, the Tenno, the drifter and all alternate versions, and ordis/lotus advising them.
Was gonna say that
Raiden gets experience if you remember Warframes and Tenno are suppressed of all memory and skills only when they are awakened and restart their learning so yeah Raiden gets it
@@Overrated7901 wile yes the tenno and warframe are suppresed the drifer is not And it due to the paradoxical nature of duverie May have thousands or millions of years worth of experience from endless runs, even if you want to say that duvire Has linear time than that means that the drifter has bin fighting from shortly after the Zeramin incident to the new war That would still put them at hundreds to thousands of years of fighting experience
Excal would kill him 50 times over to get all three parts of his sword.
He'd then dismantle his ass into a new warframe to use after
Bro did not just give experience to raider just because they have teenage bodies don't mean their inexperienced
I was gonna say, Warframe have been around for so damn long in lore. Plus mods and stuff, so really it's quite a huge difference in experience between them. Huge difference in everything really
Raiden went through worse as a child
@carbonrobin do you play warframe 🤨 bros have fought against all sorts of bullshit...and they fought in a universal war we ain't talking bout trauma
@@carbonrobinthat doesn't actually mean anything as tenno are less emotional and basically they are always in "reaper mode" also tech scaling means that tenno had to be better at more things than warframes
Also also tenno are extremly intellegent being able to fight new creatures whenever they see it
@@carbonrobin bro, the tenno fought in countless wars. Child experience is a sneeze to them. 😂😂😂
Sorry but the warframes battle experience is far greater then raidens.
Warframes are also much more versatile then Raiden as lore wise they aren't restricted to the 4 powers they have in game.
A WARFRAME BATTLE? DUDEEEEEE I LOVE IT
You a Warframe fan?
Glad to see some warframe recognition in battles
Time to give Raiden the Helminth strain...
He will become a charger or something
Not if the strain is used to make him a Warframe... Make him have a special transference bolt like Umbra- Raiden Prime ; )
Fun fact: *Excalibur has 1% power of atlas who is a warframe that punched a asteroid that can wipe out the dinosaurs, to be more specific that specific asteroid had over 66 million kilotons of tnt that can obliterate raiden in mere seconds.*
Kuva zarr with 60% fire and Riven claps raiden anyway💀
This video deserves more likes!
Tenno have an experience of literally a century
Across the entire solar system. From Mercury to Pluto.
There is also the power of the abyss, although Tenno does not seem to know how it works themselves.
"Raiden has more experience"- my ass.
The Tenno can use hundreds of weapons, have warframes capable of disrupting the concept of reality, and the power of the void.
This isnt even counting things like Necramechs or the Railjack.
A squad of 4 Tenno could probably murder all of Earth or even the entire Origin system if they wished.
Just 1 Tenno Is enough to kill It☠️
A single tenno if gone rogue, could kill the entire solar system
Hell, nova alone can turn every organic and inorganic matter into a nuke
She can literally topple cities, turn people as walking atom bombs and turn a populated area into a radioactive wasteland with in minutes if she have to
@@deadeye9439 I'm sure novas antimatter actually destroyed a planet before. Or something very close to it
The fang prime's description says the blade resonates aggressively when it strikes so it's a high frequency blade
Great edit, if possible make Graviton (The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes ) Vs. FU (No More Heroes)
Both goated games fr
You put a human up against a war machine with the power of a nuclear bomb in each finger.
Warframes kill sentients, sentients in lore are immortal and invulnerable
To everything other than void energy.
And only the tenno has void powers because they made a deal with god.
Not to “Um ackshually”, but Sentients aren’t immortal, just very adaptive to different types of damage with the exception of void damage.
Harrow: rap tap tap ☠
My shit Excal build: haha no
@@america692 You can try it in the conclave, but you'll have to forget about the Build.
Versatility but not to the warframe which can have like millions of combos of abilities and weapons... bruh
Warframes are also created from a virus resembling the Black Light virus from the Prototype game. This infection is able to fuse organic matter with almost any other material, it is also quite contagious. Once infected, Raiden can become a kind of warframe himself.
I feel experience should also go to the operator of an ancient war machine sence childhood. Not the edgy cyber samurai. Regardless I do agree with the end result.
This is the first legit fight that makes sense Warframes in lore unlimited in power
Thank you for doing my request. Great edit
Warframes get experience since they cannobically existed for ages and have experienced multiple wars and traumatic events
World before this video: 🌎
World after this video: 🌎
Isso ainda por cima até que faz sentido os warframes são armas da guerra antiga projetados para aguentar até o vácuo do espaço e ainda por cima tem as habilidades de um ninja sem falar das habilidades únicas de cada um
My all time favorite game finally getting recognized
Excalibur fr just went 🗿
A warframe is centuries old, they get the experience point
Warframes on the low end are moon level. On the high end uni. Both are stronger than the verse of MGR
I'd say stronger than uni especially looking at limbo who learned to travel between time and space and can stop time and prothea who practically created a dimension (the granum void)
@@Gh0stRider420 Don't forget the drifter himself who manifested an entire realm through his thoughts alone
I wish they made a movie
"speed, Excalibur"
Mmm yeah, sure. Can't deflect every bullet that is fired with low firerate
Raiden: heh, rookie.
if excalibur prime had in his place this battle wouldn't even be a fight but an execution🦾
Song name
It sounds like a vendetta and disaster remix
Excalibur is like a few thousand years old I think
thing is, mgr is based more on being here on earth while warframes defeat literal gods on the solar system and beasts of the void itself
I think excalibur also takes the Experience and battle IQ part of this engagement....seeing as how warframes were created to fight off the infested and the Sentient...they been at war for a long while.
Day 3 Bro a request please do Cal (from star wars) vs Jessie (from Control) please
Song: Vendetta X Disaster
i agree that Excalibur would win mainly because of his technology that allows him to disable others weapons and in terms of speed both could react to light but raiden did it in closer range so i guess he have around 7% speed advantege
A Warframe is a damn War Machine. Tennos been fighting for years in all kinds of Wars, their experience is far ahead anything Raiden ever dealt with and more. Excal would break Raiden in so many pieces and use him for spare parts. Then Take his weapon an make it 400 times better.
It seems that death battle was correct although personally I think the duel is more even than you think but the edit is still good
Death battle had to nerf Excalibur to make it fair.
Lore warframes don't even need to have energy unlike ingame so ability spam is possible
The Tenno have godlike void powers. Don't think Raiden has much anti-magic skills.
The operator if wanted to speed things up can literally disintegrate him with their void beams
If that fight was lore accurate
It would be over with in seconds
Excalibur would just use his blind and then dash to slice raiden in two
He doesnt even need his spectral blade
Yeah experience definetly goes to the robot warrior… not the entity that fought galactic entities for centuries…
“Experience” I hate to say, that’s just wrong. Warframes destroyed a solar system wide empire and beat back another solar system wide invasion, twice.
I mean if you think about it… Warframes have been fighting for like a good 300-400 years
I am again requesting Dani Rojas vs Jacob lee
Now let's do Revenant(also Warframe) vs Raiden
- **Raiden tries to cut Revenant's head off. Suddenly his own head falls off.**
- Mesmer skin, bitch!
rhino activates iron and raiden has an armstrong ptsd episode
@@GavynTheNoob Vauban casts 3 and Riden goes blind for entire life
@@fumosaurus grendal casts 1, thats it
@@Crap_A.I_bird also true
hildryn:
STANDING HERE. I REALISE-
Bro what editing software do you use this goes hard
Shogun raiden and Excalibur: humiliate raiden mgr in combat 🗿
A cyborg who uses the sword like a fuck1ng god ninja or a robot who uses the sword like a fuck1ng god ninja but more cool
When you realise that the Metal Gear verse has no Cosmology and that Raiden only wins with SSBU and PASBR Scaling:😐
Canonically speaking Excalibur wins in terms of intellect and experience Caz we are not actually Juding Excalibur on that. Anti spoiler wise we are judging someone else on anything involving mental capacity
Death battle actually did a video on this
should have been inf Amo catagory for fun
You underestimate the power of a warframe man
Warframe underrated game
W edit 🔥 what software you use??
Alight motion probably.
It's always capcut or Alight motion
@@dd6742 I see Thanks mate
Kinemaster, Alight motion & capcut.
Funny enough I now am think he takes the dub on Intellect as well since he could learn as fast as plunging a USB drive in but also you can't tell me that he wouldn't learn anything within 100's of years compared to Raiden who only knows earth and like 40 year? (i didn't do my home work on how old he is).
I would argue experience goes to warframes/tennos but awesome short.
Haver un Warframe tiene mucha más experiencia en combate por qué llevan milenios existiendo a diferencia de Raiden que su experiencia se basa cada ves que lo derritan en combate para regresarlo con un upgrade mamalon
Mesa vs Bayonetta
Bayo one shots
@@Gallacant mesa: did you say SHOTS?
jack baker vs springtrap
shang chi vs liu kang
👍
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lol, I like how everybody is tanking on Raiden, I understand warframes are strong af but come on, give my boy Raiden some points XD.
Can u plz do machamp Pokémon cus goro mk prime plzzzzzzzz u are the goat editors
See este video si es buena comparación
HOLY SHIT FINALLY A GOOD 1V1 🛩
So battle experience. The Tenno who used the Warframes for many years prior to the slaughter of the Orokin who now more then like a millennium later wake up and know immediately how to use their frames, weapons and set off immediately without training to kill. Raiden would get bodied by Clem. Oh and the tenno are like 13 years old.
"Intelelct and battle IQ" here's a lesson in warframe, The warframes themselves existed for thousands of years. Darvo a character in game has lived for 105 years and is treated like a child.
The Dax used for warframes are peak human, just imagine if Batman had Raidens tech body, those are dax.
And they are fodder compared to warframes because you take that same Dax, and amp their power by the helminth and you get world breakers.
This is also Base excal, give him thermal sunder and Raiden won't be able to do anything. Because he can completely sap out Heat from 12 meters base with mods it's 30 meters.
On top of that, the sword is void. and the augment for it is how it is described. Void doesn't care for the material plane and neither does his sword made of it.
Experience… pshh, they literally can use any type of weapon, been existing and are nigh immortal for thousands of years.
Now the raiden we really want to see (raiden shogun) against excalibur umbra
Mgr Raiden already blitz the genshin verse tho
@@Syly56real
@@Syly56raiden could barely against a human with vision. not even jokingly destroys the verse
War films have been around for over 1000 years, so how could he have more experience?
Oh yeah I remember Death Battle did a fight on this Excalibur won
Bassed af Raiden killed a guy who’s fucking invincible
Fax
Wait till this guy hears about Warframe being like 4 or 5 practically god-like entities put into one body with the ability to kill sentients (basically celestials)
Versatility should have probably went to Excal js
wait what? i have played mgrr but not much warframe so can someone explain how raiden who has lifte multiple tons and cut throug steel like warm melted butter loose to the warframe?
Excalibur has over 100 years of pure war, so I think he takes the dub on Experience as well as Battle IQ cause they were build for fighting or War other wise it wouldn't be Warframe.
You watched the death battle episode didn't you? And even if you didn't your still right.
Guys watch death battle of this
Battle iq Raiden? Why, Tenno have been fighting for centuries
If only Raiden was fighting Excalibur Prime...
Or Excalibur Umbra 💀💀
@@Chamunga7685Ok that'd be overkill since the operator can literally help umbra fight, as well as umbra being an incredibly skilled soldier alone
@@The-No-one yea i know i have him
Operator solos
V1 (Ultrakill) vs Raiden
We've seen the death battle. Day 2 for Black Adam (Comics) vs Dr. Doom (Comics)
tenno, why is a hooman outside the orbiter?
Lmfao a Warframe has eons of experience and knowledge of the void, weapons, and everything else. No way does Raiden have more iq and battle iq than any Warframe.
So who would be a fair fight against Armstrong?Atlas is too overpowered lorewise and I still think Rhino is severely unfair
Excal has been used for centuries of war if im wrong
W
Umbra would no dif him😂
Experience are you sure about that
W edit Excalibur slams the verse
Raider Vs Homelander
How excalibur has less experience and battle iq, they are hundreads of years war machines xddddd you got your lore right before this video?
Samus vs Bayonetta Please
Lmao Byonetta with one feet.
Watch the deathbattle for this
excalibur has way more combat experience wdym
CIA VS AGEN
😊
Do destiny 2 guardian vs Tenno
Easily the Guardian
For the actual Tenno, Guardians would fold. nothing in a guardians arsenal can do enough damage and bypass void powers, the same powers that came from an Eldritch God. ive seen guardian lore and other stuff since i have 5k hours in D2.
Guardians can die via a stray bullet, permanently died via cabal guns, eliksni guns, vex guns(almost sagira), and hive magic. And got carpet bombed by petra and couldn't revive. 1 guardian was even stuck inside the almighty frozen in time and only his ghost remains.
Ghosts have been killed by a ton of things, Bombs, bullets, artillery, we know even ghost takes damage from normal electricity.
We saw Cabal in the red war with a Necklace filled with ghosts, Tangled shore has bags of ghosts, In D1 you even see dead ghosts on the moon.
So yeah safe to say they are fragile, the Cayde feat of the thorn bullet was meant for him not the ghost. The books even clarified that it was meant for him and it would disable his light for a time. Like how the disruptors of the cabal disabled Zavalas light.
Ghosts are just tech using powers that can be said as magic.
As for guardians, i don't see anyone outside of Pre nerf osiris doing work.
Even in my best estimates 50 raid ready guardians are needed to bring down a Lore accurate loki with no weapons.
And at least less than 10 would be alive.
As for THEE Guardians vs THEE tenno.
Tenno wins. People quoted the fanfics of Calus as actual lore feats when it is just his own power fantasy. Fiction within fiction.
We see in gameplay and in lore, THEE guardians outsmarts stuff not overpowers them.
Otherwise we'd already blown up the Labs of clovis bray to smithereens to get to Taniks.
Over and over in lore and in gameplay, THEE guardians and Guardians around the system except for Osiris,Ikora and Saint-14, needs to outsmart stuff.
The Guardian can't just infinite cast Nova Bomb the same way Inaros covered the entire planet of mars in a sandstorm so destructive, Grineer galleon ships got mangled. Ships mind you that are 2.3 Km long.
He mangled tons of them in a grineer invasion while also doing the same things to massive infested hives. So dude is fighting 2 at once.
Low tier frames i can see guardians killing, Loki and Vauban and both don't have weapons.
Anything above those 2, would clean house.
It's all because the difference in lore of both games and Destiny lore not really straying too far from gameplay even if it did only be a few inches like Osiris spam casting supers.
Warframes can go from yeah that's 1:1 with lore to, destroying the last city and neomuna by just sneezing.
the Paracausal stuff is just fancy words for paranormal and super natural, since it's the same thing as puffing fire out of your hands. That's paracausal, anything that bends the laws of physics. Summoning weapons made out of elements and summoning energy out of thin air.
If that's the major factor, we see in warframe that breaking physics is the most normal thing the Orokin did that a bunch way back.
So in conclusion, Guardians lose. They can't outsmart something that would just. Carpet bomb them to no end.
As for the Oryx and Vex raids, all we did was outsmart both, Oryx via bomb logic, and Vex via jsut the sheer fact that the light bends the natural law so their hard coded numbers have a hard time understanding. And Atheon, ive seen people upscale that to somehow guardians being not affected by time, when we can see the corpse of multiple guardians in there.
In reality, we just crashed the calendar software of the Vex. And people saying they can time travel is a misconception from them simulating Ultra realistic futures, that's all they do, and sometimes collect Golden Age relics. Wish i can find the flat speakers there put it on ghost shells and have him play my mixtapes.
What's more proof that Ghosts are literally just tech, Drifters ghost. The ghosts are conduits providing power, Light, Darkness and Hive Magic and strand are the only things worth noting and all of them are used physically.
Warframe's Void is more similar to the warp with the 40k gods being lower than Wally, Fantasy versions can be debated though.
Edit: if i remember right Izanagi also killed ghosts. So really anything with high fire power can kill ghosts.