I waited 3 YEARS for C6 Thoma...Was it worth it? | Genshin Impact

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @InVainYT
    @InVainYT  Месяц назад +32

    Download Ash Echoes Global ➡ae.neocraftstudio.com/InVain

    • @Dipsy-rate
      @Dipsy-rate Месяц назад

      When hes was plunging it could have been a higher number if furina was in a hp sans he would have done more damage because furina buff scales with her hp

  • @daniekelacoyong5811
    @daniekelacoyong5811 Месяц назад +354

    NOT THE ATK% SANDS ON FURINA 😭😭😭

    • @syxdibest
      @syxdibest Месяц назад +11

      HELP?😊

    • @mrbrotherhooood
      @mrbrotherhooood Месяц назад +16

      He NEEDS help

    • @jibiboulaa
      @jibiboulaa Месяц назад

      😂😂😂

    • @deenzyt
      @deenzyt Месяц назад

      He's just trolling himself 😂

    • @nemhos666
      @nemhos666 Месяц назад +1

      He actually needs an ambulance

  • @FulcrumCXL
    @FulcrumCXL Месяц назад +217

    Mr Vain, politely at 15:10 you place a Atk sands on Furina, pls use HP sands. She has no atk scaling outside of her normal attacks :)

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 7 дней назад

      Lore Accurate Furina: Has no idea what she's doing.

  • @mochiria
    @mochiria Месяц назад +141

    I GOT A HEART ATTACK WHEN YOU GAVE FURINA AN ATK SANDS 😭😭😭

  • @aeris194
    @aeris194 Месяц назад +107

    The atk sands on furina hurt me physically 😭

  • @ACatThatCantSing
    @ACatThatCantSing Месяц назад +38

    Staff of Thoma.

  • @SRMC23
    @SRMC23 Месяц назад +90

    Hot Take: Thoma became popular on Burgeon teams but he is also a pretty good Pyro applicator for national teams.

    • @mihacimpric745
      @mihacimpric745 Месяц назад +13

      You don't need more Pyro application on National teams. Besides, literally any character can work in those teams. Thoma is FAR better as a Burgeon driver. He actually gets to do something there.

    • @Agentepeluche
      @Agentepeluche Месяц назад

      How many hp You need for a decent shield?

    • @SaurianTravelGuide
      @SaurianTravelGuide Месяц назад +5

      ​@@Agentepelucheat least 28k HP should be a good baseline since his shield strength depends on him being able to burst off cooldown
      ER first then as much HP as possible

    • @vorpal1174
      @vorpal1174 Месяц назад +1

      Xiangling isn't optional in national teams, she does most of the team's dmg, every national team can be renamed "xiangling and her bitches"

  • @SammiSkulz
    @SammiSkulz Месяц назад +33

    As someone who actually LOVES and enjoys playing Thoma, THANK YOU!! my personal favourite is him with Zhongli to make fire breathing Zhongli. Yes I actually play Zhongli as a actual character too

  • @SingularityDan
    @SingularityDan Месяц назад +11

    Youd think after all this time this dude would know how to build characters

    • @jetkirby3981
      @jetkirby3981 Месяц назад +1

      Genshin whale and RUclipsr cliche

  • @kirsty735
    @kirsty735 Месяц назад +22

    Thoma is one of my favourite characters as burgeon is my favourite reaction in the game. I"m f2p and had great success playing him with dendro travler, furina, and yao yao. Then after getting Kinich, I replaced dendro traveler with him and have an AMAZING burgeon team.
    With dendro traveler, my Thoma build was mainly EM as the team needed help with damage. But with Kinich being such a strong character, I now play Thoma with a split HP and energy regen building using a favonius lance and 4 piece tenacity for extra team buffing.
    More recently I've also enjoyed playing him on Chevreusse overloaded team but still definitely prefer burgeon for him.

  • @ormitomimus
    @ormitomimus Месяц назад +41

    Vain dear, Furina needs HP% and ER, please change that sands T_T

  • @Er_enx1
    @Er_enx1 Месяц назад +18

    0:10 I'm here for u pookie

  • @ladyviren
    @ladyviren Месяц назад +4

    For those interested in burgeon, you onfield nahida or your hydro unit. Onfield thoma is not the way to go because if u have his contestations they won’t activate consistently. Also it’s better to put thoma on dragons bane than favonius still. If you can put other units on a fav weapon to battery thoma, or craft kitain if u have it.

  • @anshnanavati
    @anshnanavati Месяц назад +10

    All polearm characters except Xiao have that little animation after plunging. Instead of dash cancelling, you should do 1 normal attack right after you land - it'll be way faster. Also, Thoma's best use cases imo are in Clorinde/Chevreuse teams where he can replace Benny and hold Noblesse (Clorinde dashing all over the place makes circle impact a pain). Also he can hold Deepwood in Kinich teams and Instructors in Mualani teams. The tankiness of his shield will surprise you.

  • @supahjessi
    @supahjessi Месяц назад +7

    I've been waiting for this. I LOVE Thoma 🥺

  • @cldypillarr
    @cldypillarr Месяц назад +9

    As a Thoma, Kaeya, Candace Raiden main, I love this video MWA

    • @aliatic-u9o
      @aliatic-u9o Месяц назад

      Im a candace main tooo ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALLY ANOTHER WHO UNDERSTAND😂😭

  • @minshookie427
    @minshookie427 Месяц назад +4

    The C6 DPS Thoma main in me is proud watching this

  • @barijade
    @barijade Месяц назад +2

    Once upon a time, I used a fun little burgeon team with candace infusion and thoma with bb yaoyao. Was a lot of fun as the whole team was HP scaling, 3/4 were polearm users, but the energy hunger was REAL.

  • @hmmmmmmmmmm_
    @hmmmmmmmmmm_ Месяц назад +4

    7:28 that was so unexpected

  • @gaozongy
    @gaozongy Месяц назад +5

    Oh my goodness…
    AT LAST IT HAS HAPPENED!!!

  • @autobee23
    @autobee23 Месяц назад +2

    As a day one Thoma main and lover of him, it warms my heart whenever people use him. 😂

  • @chloe09_
    @chloe09_ Месяц назад +1

    YES A THOMA VIDEO, I ALREADY KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE AMAZING

  • @kaialsh4321
    @kaialsh4321 Месяц назад +2

    Nah I’m here to hear you yap as my background while doing daily genshin farming

  • @moonyume.
    @moonyume. Месяц назад +3

    I believe thoma's name is actually thomas. Its a common german name. Just adjusted it a bit to fit in better XD

  • @NoClueHonestly
    @NoClueHonestly Месяц назад

    Nah, I'm actually here because this is the perfect length for a mealtime video

  • @spardan7522
    @spardan7522 Месяц назад

    InVain. The king of last minute pog thumbnail changes

  • @Great_SAGE_99
    @Great_SAGE_99 Месяц назад +6

    0:20 nah I am here because I enjoy watching your videos ❤

  • @MingMing16162
    @MingMing16162 Месяц назад

    just came home and new vid notif pop up, what a good thing after work :O

  • @Redai_IsHere
    @Redai_IsHere Месяц назад +1

    Thank you, now I will steal your thoma builds

  • @wayellas
    @wayellas Месяц назад

    FINALLY C6 THOMA VIDEO THANK YOU GODS FOR MY HEARING MY PRAYERS

  • @Voidnirtos
    @Voidnirtos Месяц назад

    thank you for your Thoma vid, boss man 🔥🙏

  • @gaozongy
    @gaozongy Месяц назад +2

    5:16 “Did I plan this?” …
    Not even a second later: “I’m just gonna pretend I planned this. I’m so smart.” BIG BRAIN MOMENT. 🤣
    When it cuts right to the statement, you know it was not planned.

  • @Yuki088
    @Yuki088 Месяц назад

    OMG FINALLY THOMA BUILD VIDEO THANK YOU BOSS

  • @mallardmax3127
    @mallardmax3127 Месяц назад +4

    0:09 Im not here for anything to do with thoma, couldn't care less, I'm here because your style of videos is really entertaining and I love your building videos especially. Keep up the great work, I think you are one of the hidden gems of RUclips!
    Edit: FURINA SCALES WITH HP NOT ATK GET THAT ATK SANDS AWAY FROM ME AAAAAHHHHHH👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹

  • @K3k5lp
    @K3k5lp Месяц назад

    19:18 that’s the reason why I never steal pieces from other characters 😂

  • @McHuTaoManager
    @McHuTaoManager Месяц назад +2

    THE LEGENDS, THE STAR, THE UNDERRATED! VAINNNNNNNNN🎉🎉🎉

  • @soumyasubhradatta317
    @soumyasubhradatta317 Месяц назад +1

    0:09 nah i m watching cause i am a subscriber and i like the content alot

  • @Pikatwig16
    @Pikatwig16 Месяц назад

    Thoma was a character that I enjoyed from the story and wanted to have. I got him and Jean during one of Yae Miko's banners (forget which), and he's been a part of my main team ever since I got to Inazuma for the first time. He's honestly really good. I genuinely think he's better than Xiangling.

  • @Panda-tp2pe
    @Panda-tp2pe Месяц назад

    we need to teach vain about elemental gauge, aplication and units XD

  • @CassandraSantiagoGomez
    @CassandraSantiagoGomez Месяц назад

    INVAIN NO YOURE WRONG IM HERE BC I LOOOOOVEEEE YOUR CONTENNTTTTTT

  • @KaizarVT
    @KaizarVT Месяц назад

    this video just hurt me physically, and verbally, more than my parents. jk, but you breaking the artifacts just makes me wanna cry.

  • @YourPurpleMajesty
    @YourPurpleMajesty Месяц назад

    “bah-ring” so cute omg

  • @little_blackwinged_crow181
    @little_blackwinged_crow181 Месяц назад +1

    I've been saying that Thoma is being slept on since ages. His C6 is a great support for my Wriothesly and Clorinde teams. I think hes much more comfortable than Xiangling to play bc his application is NA coordinated and he gives a shield (even if its not the best). Hes a great comfort pick for me and even if I did recently cave and am now building Xiangling, as long as I can make use of his coordinated attacks I'll pick him over her 😅

  • @Rihnari
    @Rihnari Месяц назад

    I am a HUGE Thoma fan, he needs more appreciation ❤

  • @nymku
    @nymku Месяц назад

    thoma main here- it warms my heart to see plunge dps thoma get some love, i also play him with c6 benny, furina and xianyun but what id change in your rotation is do benny e> xianyun e> furina e q> xianyun q> benny q> thoma skill and plunge, that way you get some vv shred and he does around 120k per plunge that way (at least for me) (also using bennet first makes you lose some fanfare stacks, not sure if you have higher furina cons or something)
    the previous bounties were so cool cause i could hit 1 mil with his plunge but then i replaced furina with shenhe for melt and plunge dmg bonus(her charged skill) still i hope this video gives plunge thoma more appriceation
    also this abyss is not that good for him- tho for example tripple kenki was possible (got them cleared in 1,5 min)
    oh also- whenever you plunge you can indeed quickly dash to quicken his next plunge, and i got his big dmg on 4pc crimson since i farmed it for like 2 years for him but when having furina marrechausse hunter is deffinetly bis

  • @VoltigeurGT
    @VoltigeurGT Месяц назад

    Thoma is actually quite strong with Raiden Chevy overload, because he helps trigger the res shred during Raiden's burst

  • @voldendk2
    @voldendk2 Месяц назад +1

    with the gladiator build u couldve just switched his atk sands with an energy recharge sands since he already had so much atk 😭

  • @traveler0705
    @traveler0705 Месяц назад

    Finally. I was waiting for so long.

  • @yannischupin7787
    @yannischupin7787 Месяц назад

    About the burgeon team, the issue the team had is that the dendro core generation was on the low side because of the burning you had going on sometimes. To fix this using Xingqiu would have helped a lot, and instead of baizhu maybe Charlotte could have helped, since she would have killed burning and helped create more dendro cores. Double hydro could have been a solution too. In the end the inazuma polearm is really the way to go and the 110 EM it gives would have helped sooo much...

  • @ImaPandaFox
    @ImaPandaFox Месяц назад

    0:13 ….. I feel so called out. how did you know?😂😶

  • @SteStitch98
    @SteStitch98 Месяц назад

    I'm here just because I like your videos btw

  • @kylebaking3864
    @kylebaking3864 Месяц назад

    FINNALY A THOMA VID🎉

  • @Hxkui
    @Hxkui Месяц назад

    Ah yes new invain video 😼

  • @gaozongy
    @gaozongy Месяц назад

    8:00 when you haven’t touch a region in a while and you thought you had enough of materials 😢😅😭

  • @Jackson-ub1uv
    @Jackson-ub1uv 21 день назад

    Ah, back in ye olde days when we didn't have to read a Lord of the Rings book just to understand the talents.

  • @wimalrajapksha6365
    @wimalrajapksha6365 Месяц назад +8

    VAAAAIN the ඞ in ur nickname is actually "n" sound so making ur name InVaiඞ technically spells out ur name
    Please like to vain to see

  • @Sena-Kaminarifanclub
    @Sena-Kaminarifanclub Месяц назад

    My lovely first main, first pain..He actually carried me until ar 54, until i got Lyney :D

  • @one.of.no.kind_
    @one.of.no.kind_ Месяц назад

    Forever a thoma main, I love him sm

  • @IvyrKazegami
    @IvyrKazegami Месяц назад

    New Vain video, me happy
    Simple reason to watch, really

  • @darkdude1996ify
    @darkdude1996ify Месяц назад

    16:35 It feels awkward because polearm plunge animations are really clunky. They can be canceled by using a normal attack in between I believe

  • @Fredrik-P
    @Fredrik-P Месяц назад

    Thoma is REALLY good in Chlorinde overload teams!

  • @Flop--
    @Flop-- Месяц назад

    AS A THOMA MAIN MYSELF IM SO HAPPY U FINALLY DID HIM

    • @riodd18
      @riodd18 Месяц назад

      💀 umm did thoma?

    • @Flop--
      @Flop-- 14 дней назад

      @@riodd18 i disliked this comment

  • @beasta75
    @beasta75 24 дня назад

    i just came back from chasca video to comment about the atk furina

  • @RR71311
    @RR71311 Месяц назад

    For burgeon probably nahida, xq, kokomi (with clam set for more damage) and him, C4 + kitain(if you use kitain, use first ult and then skill so that kitain passive doesn't mess your energy) and around 190 er should be enough, probably less since nahida won't be doing much damage you can give her fav, xq can also use fav; onfield with nahida and if you feel she's received too much damage then burst heal with kokomi. Charlotte is a good replacement for kokomi, what you want is to get as little burning as possible (which is why you don't use baizhu), hydro, cryo and electro all help reduce burning "protecting the dendro aura"
    For DPS Thoma with all characters available I'd choose furina, yelan, Bennett and Thoma, don't bother too much with er, he's on-fielding, receiving Bennet's particles and at C4 his ult cost is only 65, furina and yelan can also use fav, elegy is also an option you can test and see if things work out, also his ult's damage is too low so focus on his normal attacks (no emblem), with furina Marechaussee is bis, if you already have his burst anyway you might as well use it, you can treat it as a small interruption resistance

  • @MrMonklad
    @MrMonklad Месяц назад

    I'm just here because it's an InVain video.

  • @Neo_Ramen
    @Neo_Ramen Месяц назад

    khmn khmn i am staring respectfully at the chest area

  • @marcusg.h3232
    @marcusg.h3232 Месяц назад +1

    that atk sands on furina is killing me:(

  • @Satoru_xiao
    @Satoru_xiao Месяц назад

    Furina just got a new ATK SANDS🙏🏻🔥🔥

  • @anirbanchakrabarti2660
    @anirbanchakrabarti2660 Месяц назад

    YASSSS VAIN POSTED WAKE UP YALLLL

  • @alfian_alf
    @alfian_alf Месяц назад

    Finally thoma video

  • @fjrcolton
    @fjrcolton Месяц назад

    0:14 No I just came to see your new video

  • @frapiichino
    @frapiichino Месяц назад

    Ngl I forgot Thoma existed 😭

  • @rageskingdom8834
    @rageskingdom8834 Месяц назад

    I just came here cus vain posted, not cus I’m interested in thoma

  • @tyunniez
    @tyunniez Месяц назад

    3 YEARS IS CRAZY

  • @Uzairafridi98
    @Uzairafridi98 Месяц назад

    Neither do I use thoma nor would I ever use him.. I just watch your videos regardless cause I like your videos😊

  • @middllepl
    @middllepl Месяц назад

    My Thoma is exclusively Clorinde's slave, use him only in Clor/Schev/Thoma/Fischl team

  • @lalalalaaAa123
    @lalalalaaAa123 Месяц назад

    I love thoma but didn’t have much use for him since release. But now that I have Kinich?? Thoma is BUILT 🥳

  • @BenjaminSuckow-hs9ko
    @BenjaminSuckow-hs9ko Месяц назад

    NEW INVAIN VIDEO!

  • @lee_salts127
    @lee_salts127 Месяц назад

    Something to watch while playing genshin ^^

  • @Mushroom_loser
    @Mushroom_loser Месяц назад

    finally its been 3 years vain now do your other c6 characters

  • @Sakumo23
    @Sakumo23 Месяц назад

    BURGEON THOMA GOES HARDD

  • @lisaKiko
    @lisaKiko Месяц назад

    all the comments are about the ATK-Sand from Furina. Man, i wanted to write an comment too xd

  • @Cassian44
    @Cassian44 Месяц назад

    Bro's main dps thoma hit lower than my sub dps thoma

  • @Animula1gnis
    @Animula1gnis Месяц назад

    i am just a new player so i just watches and tryna learn, im very slow on the learning curve

  • @datstugi8973
    @datstugi8973 Месяц назад

    omggg finnalllyyyyyyyyy

  • @warmachine4535
    @warmachine4535 Месяц назад

    CLAIM your abyss rewards my guy xd

  • @Khalexnet
    @Khalexnet Месяц назад

    Was I the only person who thought that Vain was saying virgin for the first two thirds of the video instead of Burgeon? 😅

  • @lolstop9940
    @lolstop9940 Месяц назад

    the only way for me to main this man properly was to physically build him… lol. he hits about 9-11k on a daily basis, but that was before natlan and fontaine newer builds

  • @Moaz_Medhat
    @Moaz_Medhat Месяц назад

    FINALLYYYY OMG!!!!😭😭😭

  • @lamnoone-op5fp
    @lamnoone-op5fp Месяц назад

    Vain a little tip on burgeon comps have 2 Hydro applicator's and nahida to make more blooms or else you get burning(and l think only Emilie and kinich wound like that)

  • @KaykeBlado
    @KaykeBlado Месяц назад

    24 minutes let's gooooo

  • @RejectedInch
    @RejectedInch Месяц назад

    the shield is not shielding because it scales off Thoma's HP and Furina is draining it ( and is also underlevelled), but not enough to tigger homa's passive. 😁 But finally you built Thoma, fun video.

  • @Rihnari
    @Rihnari Месяц назад

    Thoma is literally the best character in genshin

  • @potatosalad3655
    @potatosalad3655 Месяц назад

    I got him C6 years ago against my will and never used him
    :))

  • @Her_Lady
    @Her_Lady Месяц назад

    3 YEARS?! I got his C6 in like 3 days

  • @LaxusNotOp
    @LaxusNotOp Месяц назад

    Bro is alive

  • @shion472
    @shion472 Месяц назад

    i miss vain vids saur muchhh

  • @Sakumo23
    @Sakumo23 Месяц назад

    Atk% on furina is crime

  • @alfredxsiv
    @alfredxsiv Месяц назад

    certified self-proclaimed thoma expert? knower? user? here... this is gonna be a bit nerdy & lengthy (just a quick heads up)
    There are 2 main ways of using Thoma nowadays, if you include "main DPS" thoma it will be 3:
    --- Burgeon Thoma
    * The first thing you should keep in mind is that in any transformative damage teams like hyperbloom, taser, soup, and this include burgeon, is that you should always level 90 the character who triggers the reaction. in which in this case Thoma. The damage difference between a lvl 80 or 81 thoma to a level 90 thoma is around 30%. To put into perspective how big this difference is, just imagine pulling R1 signature weapon for a character, most of the time the DPS difference is around 20-30% nowadays compared to the F2P alternative, so yeh it's literally equivalent of pulling a signature weapon on thoma.
    * C4 thoma is nice in burgeon, this alleviates some ER needs on thoma especially since you want to build as much EM on him as possible. The inazuma craftable polearm at R5 also serves the same purpose while also giving thoma a bunch of EM. Though even at C0 he's already completely functional, C2 thoma is also when you can notice a difference in thoma's performance.
    * Teams, the team used in this video are... not that good. A pure burgeon team can often struggle to perform well this is cause of how the aura's interact in a pure burgeon team (hydro, dendro, pyro). This reason is also often why hyperbloom is much more preferred cause hyperbloom doesn't have this problem.
    * The main idea of the core elements in burgeon is for hydro to react to dendro to create bloom cores, and for the pyro to react to the bloom cores. And most people knowledge stop at this point. however the pyro can also react with dendro, in which can trigger burning. This burning aura also acts like a pyro aura, in which we don't want, cause we want dendro to react with hydro, not hydro to react with pyro - so in this team you're wasting precious hydro application to trigger vaporize (this is not inherently a bad thing as some teams like mualani or neuv actually want this) but in this team its a DPS loss. Credits to the theory crafters in this game, they found a way to alleviate this issue - by putting an element that doesn't interfere with the dendro aura while consuming the burning/pyro aura. It's also important to note that fast hydro application is a must in this team (i.e. xingqiu , yelan's application is slower unless you have her C2, Kokomi is also slower)
    * By adding electro (Curry teams) - electro will "weaken" the pyro aura, enabling your hydro to react with dendro (creating more blooms)
    e.g. Nahida, Fischl, Thoma, Xingqiu (i have extensively used this team a lot, and its by far my favorite burgeon team)
    * By adding cryo (Oven teams) - by using the same concept as the "fridge" mechanic tldr you also create more blooms
    e.g. Nahida, Kaeya, Thoma, Xingqiu
    --- Support Thoma
    * where you just build him ER and a bit of crt rate if you're using fav lance. most popular teams that use thoma nowadays are
    * clorinde in chevreuse teams, clorinde easily gets knocked around and using thoma in chevreuse team is just comfy option and thoma C6 also buffs clorinde a bit.
    * wanderer, also wants some sort of interrupt resist as he can get easily knocked around again he's just a comfy option, not particularly 'highest DPS'
    * kinich & mualani (cause there's not a lot of off-field pyro applicators & thoma gives interruption resist in the form of frequently refreshing shield)
    --- DPS thoma
    * I'm not really a fan of using thoma this way as using literally any other polearm character will deal as much damage as him. Though if you really want to use him this way
    * don't bother bursting every rotation on him, just focus on building as much offensive stats, the 15% plunge bonus you get on his C6 can also be activated by his E, not just his Burst
    * Using an EM sands, 4pc instructor on bennett, or EM weapon like R5 dragon's bane can potentially lead to higher DPS as Xianyun's plunge buff functions similar to an atk buff like Benny (so you're oversaturated on ATK in this team, Furina is also giving a lot of dmg bonus, in which EM you're kinda lacking)
    * Lastly, there's actually an interesting thing about polearms and their plunge animations (except for xiao i think). Polearms for some reason you can't dash cancel the landing-animation of the plunge whereas all other weapon types you can dash-cancel it. But there's a way to still get faster plunges, that is to N0 or N1 cancel the animation. You can also do this N0 or N1 cancel on other weapon types but its generally slower compared to dash cancels, for polearms however its all they have so you're kinda forced to do it if you want faster plunges.
    Sorry for the wall of text, just sharing this knowledge to whoever is curious. Also no one is perfect, so i may have gotten some things wrong, or i didn't fully explain cause no one will probably read this anyway, but if you are thank you and feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

  • @k.amik.o
    @k.amik.o Месяц назад

    Vain, buddy, what is that sand on Furina. Dude, I did not just see an atk sands on her..,