crimewave In kpop, the word Scandal is used whenever an artist is in situation where they face intens critisime. Its not specifically the best thing to use 24/7 but it happens. Happens with date scandals like another person said, but also with the clothing, (hwasas red body suit to name on thing) and if they forget lines (blackpink i think had one time where jennie forgot the lyrics due to the hard lyrics). So no. Scandals are not equal to crimes.
why is no one appreciating how well these two made this video??? i mean as a international kpop fan i was so shook to hear all these further new on seungri case like damn... big shoutout to dkdktv for making such a good video and saying everything honestly :)
I've been looking for a reliable source to read because crazy int fans always twist the stories to make their idols look innocent, and haters also twist the stories to make it even worse. However, with these two I know I get the real info, and it was super useful!
As a sexual assualt survivor I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys expressing your support for the victims here. Keep going you guys are great
Kelly Quinn i dont know your story but what i do know is youre amazing and brave and actually very inspiring as you could get through that.YOURE SO AMAZING GIRL
I was abused my older cousin when I was 10...I may not be able to easily forgive anyone who involved in sexual abuse case..it's just..unacceptable. Espcially JJYA..I can't even see the video/news with his picture in it without feeling queasy...
since you guys were brave enough, I will try to be too. Okay, here goes nothing. *_deep breaths_ * I was raped repeatedly by my gym teacher when I was six years old, and till about two months ago only me and him knew about it. (That's when I decided to get professional help) I've had to live with _severe_ PTSD pretty much my whole life because of this. I celebrated my 23 birthday yesterday and I still haven't really "started" my life because of the panic attacks I get when seeing a guy in sweats, or with a mustache or encounter someone who's smell reminds me of him. It has ruined my life in so many ways. I hope every one of these sick bastards gets what they deserve!
@@Bella-fm1ih Damn... That young? You are one strong girl! 💜 Never forget that! To keep it all inside like that for so many years... And as a kid... That takes some strength. And I'm glad you decided to get help, nothing should stand in your way of being able to live your life to the fullest! 💖
100% there has to be. These idols didn't just invent this idea, likely older idols may have even taught them this type of stuff or helped them get connections for prostitutes etc.
Yeah, true. We don't know just how many other chatrooms like this could be around. But, it's only a matter of time before someone finds them and exposes them.
hopefully these men getting caught scares those with such a chatroom to stop doing what they're doing and not trapping anymore victims....still want them to get caught too of course. And also it teaches the future generation of idols to never lose their morals and not blindly trust older idols.
also the fact that some people are still supporting seungri while after years, park bom still gets hate over taking adderall and getting ps says everything about people’s morals.
Omg yes. Despite all the evidence that cleared boms name. They turn the same blind eye to the same EVIDENCE INCRIMINATING seungri. Like..wut...gnna go bang my head on the wall
Poor mom,she didn't do anything to other people,her mental health is not good and people are hating on her,while antimoral things like that are happening
@qhrtpvustkf believe what you believe and keep being blind with accusing Bom is at the wrong side. And Seungri is on the right side with this scandal while the evidence of him in fault is real.
Well them apologizing them would be hypocritical. Because if they even have one speck of decency that would make them able to feel apologetic, they would never do that. But yeah, they're only sorry cause they got caught
their apologies don't mean anything anyway. Jjy already said once when he apologized in the past that he didn't feel guilty at all. They're all just trying to save their asses now
They haven't apologized to the victims for legal reasons. Doing so would be an admission of guilt, and they've probably been advised against doing that. As someone who used to think highly of some of these people, specifically Seungri, I would hope that would have the small shred of decency to apologize for what they've done. Especially to those that they literally treated like objects. But if they were willing to sink to that level in the first place, its doubtful. Fuck em
Exactly. It was a case of multiple drugging, sexual harassment, forced intercourse! And other than disclosing videos that were asked to be kept hidden, they went onto film and share videos against the will of the victims! These are all crimes committed, and even the talks in the chatroom is an intended criminal offense. It is only as scandal because it involves celebrities and influencers, that does NOT mean they have not committed severe crimes!
Don't worry about Bom lol. South Korea may look down on her but the whole world is cheering for her. She's already topping the charts locally and internationally.
Korea has pretty much shown to have really lenient punishment for criminals so i *seriously* hoped they'll lock those assholes behind the bar for a long period of time. It's gonna take those victims quite a long time to recover from the trauma.
You guys really nailed the Seungri and JJY case on the head. Thank you for spreading the message that this isn't about kpop, fan's "oppas" and so on and so forth. It's about the country, the society as a whole and the victims. Anyone should be ashamed of themselves for supporting either of these people. While I do believe in innocence until proven guilty, the evidence is so damning that there really isn't any room for that anymore. I won't blindly follow the police since it is mentioned that they had the police on their side, but still. Those poor women, my heart truly goes out to them.
The thing is international fans focus on the celebrities but as you said it’s more than that and this case is most likely connected w politicians just as how the chief of police was involved
the problem is that Seungri's name is bigger than JJY's, want it or not all that people is talkin is that Seungri is involved in rape when he is not. I don't fucking care about guilty or not anymore, all I care is about missinformation and shit talking that people is doing. THIS is hurtin the community aswell.
That's true and it is sad that they're ignoring it. I really felt frustrated when they criticized Henry's behavior when he was still in Real Men. He explained that he was diagnosed with it thus his behavior of being hyperactive but they still reasoned out that it's just a false front.
@@rinagracegonzales4292 I find this strange because i'm pretty young and i know what ADD and ADHD are like, its not that rare or complicated! im so confused as to why this isnt as well known in korea..... actually, very confused
Mental illness is not well known in Korea you're just expected to get over it alone and having a diagnosis for menatal illness can make it difficult to get a job actually it's really sad
Common mental illnesses other than depression are almost not known to the public where I live. It's very recent that people started acknowledging depression but it's not taken seriously. It might be common in some asian countries.
What’s the worst thing about it all. Not one person has given a single apology to the women, the victims, the man who was assaulted, no remorse. They’re all sociopaths
I know you guys are gonna continue to discuss about this scandal and I was wondering if you can also mention about Jang Ja Yeon’s case (actress of Boys of Flowers who alleged committed suicide) that is being reinvestigated after 10 years. And how she has listed about 31 men (journalists, ceos, basically people in power) who sexually harassed and abused her in her written documents. I feel like you guys have the platform to reach a broader audience and I really hope people learn more about this. And they will find justice for this case.
I second this, there is a petition about Jang Ja Yeon’s case because this case will close in about 2 weeks, please go sign it, apparently votes are being deleted www1.president.go.kr/petitions/559071
Vanna Tran They said under someone else’s comment about Jang Ja Yeon that they would make a video about it. Hopefully it will be very soon before the statue of limitations is up to receive enough signatures for the re-investigation.
Your post about Jang Ja Yeon is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. If you notice how the news of Seungri/Burning Sun and Jung Joon keep coming up and being covered, and how Jang JY case is being shielded due to Seungri's news, this is an old trick how Korea handles major serious news. Entertainers like Seungri and Jung are actually being used to cover up the serious news related to the people of power in Korea(politicians, business ceo's, etc). Entertainers' crimes always seemed to break major when Korea's trying to cover up the BIG important news. Such thing had happen 10 yrs ago with Jang Ja Yeon case, when G-Dragon and other entertainers were being prosecuted in public with the news of the drug scandal, and now how Seungri and other entertainers are being prosecuted right now. Seungri/Burning Sun case is important, but the most serious news is not being covered much as it should, which is Jang Ja Yeon case. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, when she was supposedly expired from suicide, when it was not. Korea needs to find those involved in her murder, and it can be difficult when they're in the position of power. It's actually scary, when you're trying to fit all the puzzles.
@SidKillz you wouldn't believe it but yesterday a watched a video where they ask knetz what they thing about everything and in one of the anwers they say is normal to send this kind of videos between friends and it became public because seungry is famous, like wtf.
innocent until proven guilty is the number one rule of criminallaw. As a law student this is a very important law. It's not about him being an idol and he sure is not my favorite person, but even if he is a criminal he is still a human being and he has rights.
ipiesings ahhh but when the woman they raped is someone you know, that will be a different story won’t it? It’s sad how when women are suspects people throw them in bins straightaway and for men they still have support. Guilty until proven but 3 involved ady admitted to the wrongdoings so we still have to prove even after they’ve admitted?
@@TaYLoRBReaKouT As a student law you should know what a solid proof is. Using human logic and all the proofs that had been proven true you can actually see that Seungri is not innocent. Also, what about the victims?
there were so many cases tho where these celebrities just ask for forgiveness and are back in the variety scene.. I hope no one moves past this and everyone in the group chat is held accountable
Right?! It’s like a movie where the bad guy wins. It happens all the time unfortunately. Can we reopen clara lees case? I think the higher ups manipulates text messages to make her look wrong.
And also..after his retirement...can the victims sue him or can he get his money taken away??? Like...he probably still got lots of money so he will be fine even if he’s not famous anymore. HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS!
could you also do a video about Jang Ja Yeon? Its extremely important, and right now, its not getting any coverage because of burning sun and the groupchat. This case has been going on for 10 years, and because you have such a large audience, it could raise more awareness about the issue.
Wura Ogunnaike I was just about to comment about this. Jang Ja Yeon and other females who might be going through what she did, need justice. Especially if it involves influential men who are still in power. Please don’t let her pain be forgotten.
I just found out he’s been doing this since 2014. He’d “name” the girls “1,2,3,4,5” and make comments such as “1 gets drunk easy and has a nice personality, 2 is touchy, 5 is nice too” stuff like that. He’d say their pros and cons, treat them as objects not human.
JJY's texts make me physically sick to my stomach. With all the evidence how was he not immediately arrested?! Thank you guys for making these videos to make an international audience more aware of serious news in korea.
Those messages were known to the police but police and even prosecutor buried it. This is next level corruption and these celeb "oppas" were in on it. They deserve jail and ostracization.
Jimin's tiny smol hands He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
JJY needs to go to prison. he only feels bad because he got caught. he would've kept on doing this if he hadn't gotten caught. if the Korean gov't goes lightly on him that sends a terrible message to the public.
I love BIGBANG. With all my heart. But there’s a fine line between being a loyal fan and a blind fanatic. I wish Seungri is innocent, but I must also look at all the evidence, and be objective about it. This is not about fandom wars anymore. A crime was commited, and criminals must be punished. Innocent until proven guilty, yes. But I’m not gonna blindly support him just because I love him.
Exactly. I have been a VIP more than half of my life and I faced the feeling of devastation and betrayal. I went through the “he can't do this he's not like that" phase. I know it all but today after some of the screenshots got released, I just can't hold on to the hope of him being innocent... Me being disgusted would be an understatement. This amount of accusations doesn't just happen! He has to be involved even for a tiny bit. I will still wait for what the police has to say otherwise I'm done, I don't support what Seungri has done. Unless he's 100% innocent which I don't think he is, I don't think I can ever believe in him and like him ever again. Not like, I don't think I can EVER forgive him for this. I want to wait till the end of this, I still wish he didn't do this but that glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel is almost non existent now. I'm just so disappointed and mad, this is not the man that I have loved for all these years. I just wish he could've thought about his family, members and fans before even thinking about this. All I have wanted is justice for the victims from the start. I really hope they are alright and find their justice. I hope everyone who is involved in this will get punished.
Totally agreee. This is not about kpop anymore. Here we are confronting society and all its shadows. I hope that some kpop fans stop arguing about their favs, and pay more attention to those that are the real victims here. I understood more how big was this when i read and watched all this stuff on our local news. When i saw the local newspapers talking about this, i said... well esta gente se jodio. I just feel bad for the victim.
Loreley linarez quezada "Esta gente se jodio" Amiga estoy igual Me vengo enterando de todo este asunto nada mas ahorita y estoy muy sorprendida la neta
@@Professorbubblegum You sound like a biased fan, trying to protect your "oppa". This is more than a scandal, it's a fucking *CRIME.* Rape and drugging people is messed up and evil.
@@ReptilianTeaDrinker To give you guys further insite on this case, since most are stuck with 2019 evidences. Seungri was never a part of the M*lka groupchat, which was the groupchat that had r*pe and other stuff posted on. It has been proven with legal documents. The only groupchat that Seungri was a part of was the business groupchat. Another thing to be mindful off is reporters have ADMITTED on editing the kakao chat rooms. Lee was never Seungri, LEE was LEE JONGHYUN. Another thing be mindful of is Seungri offered to do a lie detector exam (I know it is not always accurate, but still.) Which the police DENIED. Alot of his allegations from prostitions have also been faulty. The only charge that everyone is sure of as of now is embezzlement from gambling. To read further and have more insights on the false allegations celeb news posted about him, please go to poutyvip5lines on twitter. The pinned tweet, is a very resourceful thread. It includes all news from Naver or other Actual News sites from Korea. As well as documents from court. (Which includes, people saying Seungri was not part of this. Includes reporters admitting to report because "negative feelings", and the clearance of his involvement in the chat rooms with JJY.)
I have ADHD too and it's hard to travel around, because my medicin is illegal in some countries. When I went to Australia I had to have a written permit on me AT ALL TIMES otherwise I could get arrested for carrying my meds around.
@f Actually all disorders are made up (since our own brains identified them and named them), but mental illness is still an illness and therefore should be treated. I literally cannot sleep at night if I don't get my medicine and I can't sit still or concentrate on anything. Now stfu
@f you can literally see the difference in the brain when testing someone who is "normal" and someone with adhd (or any other disorder). And you can see their brain changing back to slightly more "normal" when they get the right medication. But sure its all made up....
@@salmagm3249 i fucking agree. they are so disgusting and still blinded by whatever their idols were saying and would still believed just because they've known their oppa's as angels and that's bullshit lol. i am deeply hurt to everything that is currently happening right now but this is just beyond and deeper than kpop, the is real situation but some of them weren't being serious about it and were still fucking worried about their oppas, i am just disgusted.
Tas He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
yes, but sadly only the suspects who's in the *entertainment* are the only ones who's receiving *ALL* the severe hate considering they're just the small pawn in the crime and the heads and masterminds are said to be those highly rank policeman and politician.
Anny's World but the point is sexual abuse and hidden camera crimes against women are not JUST K-pop problem but something that is prevalent throughout Korea.... to call it a “K-pop scandal” trivializes the larger issue at hand
When I first read about Seungri and as the days went by and more and more information came to light, I remembered when the members of Sistar warned I.O.I's Kim So Hye on Star Show 360 about male seniors in the industry and told her to stay away from them.
What pisses me off too is when I see fans say “Stop bringing this up it’s been really hard for the VIPS.” ...... I’m sure it’s been much harder for the victims over the past 4+ years. This whole situation is exactly why I try to never idolize people. I can be a fan but I always remind myself that these people (which of course a lot of celebrities put up a facade for the cameras and public but that’s not what I’m talking about) can be someone different behind the cameras. I remember going over the OJ Simpson case in my forensics class and watching all of these fans blindly supporting OJ when he was running from police and cheering for him and I was disgusted. I new it wasn’t good to blindly believe rumors but I truly realized that it wasn’t good to blindly support someone. OJ was a suspect in his wife’s murder and these people were cheering for him. That’s why now I wait for the results of an investigation or release of evidence. Because it’s never good to throw hate at someone for something unconfirmed but it’s also not good to faithfully stand by their side, especially when there are possible victims involved. The accused has family and friends for that and the best thing is to wait for the truth to come out.
Some VIP in Reddit and Weibo even says “I wish I was the prostitute to please Seungri” “Protect our oppa at all cost” Like WTF and some of them were women...
@@drcommondrate12 Not too sure about Reddit but I've definitely seen the ones on Weibo. However, now that there's no doubt regarding his participation in this, some of them had to keep a really low profile because they came under fire by many Chinese netizens for supporting him
Oh, definitely. And it's suspicious how he said that, no, it was jjy's contacts that he was looking at and nothing else. Like, for real? So you're telling me, every time you go to his house to look at the "golden phone", that whole time you're just looking at his contacts?
@@normalisntcomingbackjesusi8681 he said he was wondering what was on the goodness phone why yall stay trying to bring Zico in every scandal there is if he knows that person yall just so annoying and trying to sound so smart
@@dominquegreen8239 Just wait for it. The lawyer had the data from that chat room from 2015. Now the police can subpoena JJY's Kakao history and get ALL his convos since.... Whether Zico was involved or not, who knows, but he isn't the only one sh!tting himself and backpedaling. I'm waiting to see how many more of these disgusting pigs go down... They deserve everything they get.
there's 3 people already that said they were not involved and threatened to take legal action if anyone talked about them. now they confessed they had a part in it and ''retired'' from the entertainment industry. zico did the same thing and i think he'll have the same fate because this ''i'm taking legal action'' bullshit is just some attempt in trying to scare people from proving who these pieces of shit really are. now all of a sudden i don't think the nude seolhyun pic said to have been found in zico's phone is fake , i think it's real because these sick fucks are capable of doing such things.
@@dominquegreen8239 we all dunno whether if he is guilty or not for knowing, watch, enjoying and not stepping up. But neither do you zico fans know he is innocent or not. Stop calling him innocent just bc he claims to be. No one will step up when they can get away with it. Neither am i saying he know but seriously fans are too biased. Pls be objective. This is actually socially serious. Have some logic and brains
It's quickly developing though, and this is not all. I think there was two or three _massive_ threads on reddit sorting out the legit info if you're interested.
I recommend reddit.com/r/kpop They have a thred on the front page and several explaining the timeline and all the evidence from credible sources start to finish.
As a Korean, I was really shocked when I saw a lot of comments supporting Seung li from other countries on twitter. But now I’m glad that you guys help international Kpop fans can see the fact.
I’m completely speechless, shocked even. I’ve been studying for my consecutive exams the past three weeks and haven’t even peeped at kpop news till today. It’s all still sinking in. Like damn, is this real? I feel so bad for those poor women who went through so much agony and turmoil. And these celebrities who I’ve known for so long, how could they?! How could they do such horrible things to those victims! 😭
For non Koreans, we generally wait for evidence before we condemn people. We like to say "innocent until proven guilty" I know that isn't true in Korea which tends to jump to conclusions and condemn people based on rumor. That being said, initially I supported Seungri because nothing had yet confirmed that there was solid evidence of his guilt. However, apparently that has changed and I am coming to see that he was part of a sicker ring and culture of rape in the entertainment industry. So now you can be happy that you were right to assume based on no evidence at the time that he was guilty. I take no joy in this entire matter and am disappointed beyond belief that rumor has turned into fact. I however will still wait for arrest and trial before I abandon hope that there is something worth saving in Seungri.
I was pretty mad that you guys felt forced to take down the previous video you made about Seungri, because you did absolutely nothing wrong. You only reported what everyone else were reporting about at the time, and you gave a clear disclaimer whenever you offered your own opinions. So I'm glad to see you guys are posting about this again! It's honestly a huge deal. There's a lot of victims who deserve justice here, and it's also affecting kpop and Korean society as a whole. Multiple kpop companies' stocks are dropping and who knows what's gonna happen to YG. So this simply can't be ignored, just because fans don't wanna hear it/face it. Anyone who's trying to bully you again because their delulu asses can't accept the truth, even when the police and the guilty parties themselves admit it, needs to just be ignored. The news doesn't wait for investigations to be over, people who say that are dumb. The news report on anything from case developments, updates, thoughts, speculations, rumors and official statements.
@@hangezoe966 Not just VIPs, YG stans are blaming us for their faves not having comebacks. Who cares what they think! With this scandal they proved to be one of the most delusional fandoms in kpop.
Seriously?!? Treating someone THAT badly about getting her own ADHD medication? Does Korea not know what ADHD is? btw, ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder) and ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) are often used for the same issue. I believe the technical term is ADD since it comes in forms that are not hyperactive and instead just distracted. (For this example "normal" is used to describe people who do not have ADHD/ADD and not to belittle them in any way as it is often a genetically passed issue that is out of their control and it is NEVER their "fault") To oversimplify it, it is a brain imbalance of chemicals that can cause you to have issues with being distracted easily that are beyond your control. The two main kinds show up as being over energetic and not being able to sit still OR appearing normal but being distracted by every little thing. It is treated by giving a person stimulates (most common form is caffeine which will calm a person with ADHD down a little or make them sleepy) which unfortunately can contain an amount of the base form of medical meth (it is related but NOT the same). Some ADHD medications will work on people with ADHD but either not work on normal people or make them act like they now HAVE ADHD. Adderall became quite well known for this in the past and was sometimes used a a recreational drug. However, that was in the past much more than now. Doctors have been reducing this effect and coming up with new medications without those side effects at a very quick pace over the past few years. For instance, I was told my medication (Adderall which Park Bom is getting in trouble for) would either help me if ADHD was present or not effect me at all if I were normal. Myself and my two sons have it in various forms and extremes. My oldest son would sometimes come home crying because he was often punished with things like yelling and no recess time with the other kids because he couldn't sit still and often didn't finish his homework on time. Even with medication, effort is required to do things that normal people find easy to accomplish. Without medication, it can be nearly impossible to do some tasks. It seems to me that Korean officials are not educated about the ADHD and its medical advancements. It is a very common disorder to have so I hope they educate themselves quickl;y instead of stigmatizing people with ADHD.
Korea, while becoming quite progressive, still thinks of mental health very jokingly. It's why suicide rates are so high, and why deaths, like Jonghyuns for example, create such large impacts in how they think. Things have changed a bit, but they need to change more.
Korean officials acknowledge ADHD and it is legal to get treatment and medication, just not adderall, and especially not without going through the legal procedure of importing drugs. Just thought I'd clear things up so people don't think Korea has no ADHD meds. Korea is not the only country to be strict about adderall, Norway for example is too. Ritalin is still common in Korea, and there are other meds too. She made a mistake and the authorities need to treat it as they would any other drug related case. That however doesn't give people the right to label her as a drug abuser. I don't know how many people are holding this against her, but it's sad anyways, since she obviously didn't have any ill intentions. She doesn't deserve to be hated for such a tiny mistake.
This was an amazing and informative comment. This was an issue very close to my heart. My brother was diagnosed when he was 9 and for the past 7 years he’s tested SEVERAL different types of ADHD meds because different meds worked better for him. I imagine that in Park Bom’s case even if she could legally be prescribed Ritalin in Korea that particular medication might not have helped her therefore she felt like she needed adderall.
Yes intuition is powerful and should never be ignored! It could save your life some day. People who give off a vibe like that even when you only see them through a screen have true evil within them and Seungri had fans saying they got a weird vibe from him from the beginning.
Me too actually...even with Gdragon I was kinda okay (Taeyang always was my bias because of his voice) idk I remember a show when he kept talking about GG Yuri...he was bit..like they sleezy guys you try to avoid
*Guys, this is only the beginning.* This shit roots _deep,_ and what we're seeing right now is only the tip of the iceberg we're about to hit. *_Hold on tight, we're in for an enormous crash!_*
YES! Especially if many women (and young men!) start going public with verifiable claims of abuse at the hands of celebrities and public figures, it will be SKorea's METOO moment. And we can be pretty sure every Kpop idol, CEO, and politician who's ever bought sex , pimped or dealt in porn/trafficking is sh*tting their pants right about now. LET THIS SCANDAL/CRIME BE A WARNING to all kpop idols, especially young generation...keep your life squeeky clean my brothers and sisters, or the only place you'll be singing is the prison dining hall.
And if there is not an enormous crash ... it will be highly suspicious. Everybody knows it. I just hope the usual "politness" (not sure how to say it in my second tongue) of Korea will not let this shit "slip into thin air" when the sentences will be given to "all" the rotten heads involved. I am sure there will be a try to cover up a lot of the people involved or even some extensions of the crimes that had been done. I really hope Korea won't minimize or smooth the situation for some "preservation of status" or some shit. We see it all the time around the world where justice is poorly done because of some sort of paternal reasoning. Anyways. I hope that they will all be dragged with heavy pressure into a brick wall until unrecognisable from their previous image.
Please I'm hoping no one will dig who are victims are. Revealing them add more pain for them. They need to be protected through out the case even if the justice will be given. Their identity should not be known.
Adelaida Canoneo He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
@@51844mj your wrong his business partner in LA is southeast asian and he loves a hot sexy bitch...damn i don't want to read it again... disgusting bastard...
Or they can still use it..kind of like making a video of the day they apology and the time they receive apology from those dumb asses...although there's a small chance that it may happen since these people are mostly delulu.
Seriously! I was fuming when they listened to those ppl & actually apologized. I see where Danny & david felt like they had to, but fans of the singer and the group mentioned went into hyperdrive with defending their favs they didnt stop & think for a moment that there might be some legitimacy to the story. They follow blindly & defend way too strongly. Dkdktv yall got my support
"By the time you know it, you have a Mao portrait on your wall and shit like that and you're like using Weibo." the way I choked on air when Danny said that omg. That's the tea of this episode 🤣
David’s progressively more grossed-out face starting at 24:15 ... my reaction exactly.😑 We might not imagine them to be capable of such things but ... May this be yet another reminder that we do. not. know. these. people. It’s horrifying to think that all these victims could have potentially gone on without a voice, having to keep their assault to themselves. And the women who were given the sleeping pills...how they must have felt upon waking up and realizing what happened. I hope their identities are kept secret and that all the corruption and cover-up’s can just be purged all at once.
Yes, the more he read, the more disgusted I felt. And shocked. I think I was a bit naive, like because as an outsider, their culture seems so respectful and friendly, etc, that this shovked me they would be doing these horrendous acts and sharing it about and be so callous by mocking and joking about it in the chat with eachother. Removed my rose-colored glasses for sure and woke me up that there are sickos everywhere doing these acts and abusing their power!!
Mer K The members felt there was something wrong and that's why he distanced himself from them so he can do his shady business. He didn't even event them at his birthday party.
So far it's actually been confirmed that Zico is not part of the group chat and was only having fun with Joonyoung's phone by looking at the various contacts
@Moof Poof Zico, Roy Kim, Eddy Kim and few less popular soloists are highly suspected to be part of the chatroom. Those three definitely know.. and I think that BB members also know something because they warned Seungri about "bad people"...
RM suggested we read Map of the Soul by Carl Jung a while back and many more books that we would come to find is somehow related to the storyline. Anyways, it’s interesting because the author of the book Demian, in which the WINGS series was based on, is a student and patient of Carl Jung. So it seems we’ve gone full circle and I’m curious to see where this new concept is going.
kimichi💜 That’s why I love about them they really put their all into the music Like they’ve actually been preparing this 💜💜💜💜💜I love and respect them so much just because they always know what their doing
Its concerning that they had a high ranking police chief to watch over a club. It makes me think that there were many other things going on there, I pray everyone involved is exposed and the victims get justice.
@@dewianjani8021 exactly. Seungri didn't get all the connections himself, connections are passed down. To have the head of police allegedly on his side could means that it had to have been a trusted connection made through another contract. Someone that high up doesn't just walk up and offer to defend them because they're a fan. Seungri was introduced to them by someone in the industry. And it worries me we may find out way more terrible things about YG or his artists.
Trust me, none of the entertainment companies are innocent. They are much worse. I mean supplying your artists to investors for thousands and thousands of dollars? Not done.
Just a reminder this proves you shouldn't trust an idol. because they seem funny, talented, and do cute aegyo doesn't mean anything. Don't forget your seeing the idols solely do FANSERVICE for their idol image. You stan your idols not the person, you have no idea how they are behind that perfect idol image.
@@1animorph exactly and fans forget that their idol is just a persona made for entertainment and not their real self. it's ok to idolized them but never be blinded to reality that idols are humans and should be judged as humans and not be treated like a god
SM Entertainment Sucks totally agree. That’s one reason why I hate how aegyo is so widely encouraged in the kpop industry. It incentivizes fans to infantalize grown men and women who are capable of good and evil just like any other grown adult. A 26 yr old kpop idol still has the needs and urges of a regular 26 year old man.
these celebrity's are horrible enough but its the "fans" that still support them that scare me..hope this case can purge both the celebrities and the delusional fans
Actually, tbh, the fans aren't really "that" supportive of seungri. At least, not as many as you think. Maybe the number may still be big when u think of it, but the number that wish for the victims best in life and justice AND that are hating on seungri for being part of this is way~ bigger than the fans still supporting him
But think, this happens in other places too. Look at Michael Jackson. Sooo many people still love and adore him, even do tributes for him (Lay and NCT) but it was found that he did so many terrible things too. They don't support or love the persons actions but they love and support the artist they were before all that happened. They think of the good person they once were and hope that they can be a good person again.
@@sin3358 think about it tho.. if they really support seungri..then theyd wish for his punishment..so that he wont fall any deeper to the lingering abyss than he already has...that is wut true supporters must feel...sad but true Truth hurts..and "never judge a book by its cover.."
I've heard that ADD and ADHD arent really discussed or addressed in Korea so I feel bad for Park Bom. There are varying degrees of it but I'm assuming if she went as far as importing medications that are common for dealing with it that she felt she needed it. It seems the Korean public will never care about that tho. They seem so harsh on their celebrities.
G_to_V most of us Vips don’t believe he’s innocent but you will always have some fans that support him. People still blindly support rkelly so it’s not that surprising.
Finally someone said it. Everyone seem to be defending him and the company. Its crazy. He seem so much so much so muchhhh worse but also a lot smarter about getting caught
It's crazy how this is going international. In America on the biggest news anchor Fox News, this is the number one topic. Not only online but on the national TV. It's insane how international this has gotten...
I really feel for the victims and so glad they will get their justice, but This will not only hit kpop industry real hard but also Korea economy , I hope this will be a wake up call for all the fans not only kpop but whoever idols you like don’t go overboard with it
I think it is also a wake up call for kpop idols who were considering being a part of something similarly corrupt or currently headed down the wrong path, excessive drinking, doing drugs, etc. I hope they understand what the consequences can be if they misuse their platforms. It's ok to show support for the artists you love and to spread positivity, but when it is evident that they've done something wrong, you need to acknowledge that there is a problem instead of being delusional.
I hate and am disappointed on Seungri for knowing everything and not doing anything and even participating in it... But I am so disgusted by that Yoon Jung Yyung...Punish them. Yes I'm a VIP but first I'm a human being and I want justice for those victims.
The other guy did less than Seungri. Seungri assisted in prostitution, possible even sex trafficking. Seungri won’t even give his phone to authorities even though they’re warranted to have it. He didn’t even apologise properly, he’s only apologised that people now hate him. He’s a disgusting human being.
I hope you guys don’t get hate. There is only so much a fan can support an idol. There will come a point when fans will have to understand what the did is very wrong. I just remember the last time you discussed this in one of your last video. You guys had to apologise for it, even thought you did say it is an on going investigation.
imagine people are even trying to blame the victims for what happened calling them prostitutes. First of all it was done WITHOUT consent, forcefully even drugged like wtf even if they were prostitutes that DOES NOT invalidate their right to say NO to a fcking situation. Honestly everyone defending seungri or blaming the victims or turning this into a fcking fandom or kpop issues deserves the best of the worst they could get.
This is probably the best comment I've seen so far. I'm glad to see that there are people with functional neurons like you. Ppl be like "omg Seungri must be so stressed, I believe in him, Oppa I support you, He is not bad" like wtf????????? They support a criminal because he is an idol? Go to JoonJung's instagram you are gonna have a mental breakdown when you see all those delusional fans supporting a rapist
And also those crazy fans attacking reporter kang. I’m really afraid for Lawyer Bang, Reporter Kang and the whistleblower-repairman, I feel like someone might kill them :/
I think to be honest I think the women who were prostitutes in this situation were probably horribly treated. A lot of these men in the club were from out of the country so they had no fear about acting out any of their destructive fantasies. They could have been raped and abused during these interactions. It is very easy to put women at a lower level than other women because of their choice of job but they need to receive equal protection. I have heard online in videos etc. that prostitutes are used by quite a few married Korean men and they don't view it as cheating. Korea has problem with women over 50 living in poverty who have resorted to prostitution because there is not adequate social services.
‘This is truly disgusting and horrifying I feel so empty! I’m shocked I hope the victims are rightfully helped and get their justice! #justiceforvictims
I think I found my new favorite commenting/news channel. You guys are really interesting to listen to, and it’s clear you take the issues and stories very seriously.
@@chulcat They apologised for "dragging" Seungri and making assomptions on the scandal before the truth was revealed. Now that we know he's trash they can delete it lol
As a Big Bang and a 2 Days and 1 Night fan, I am deeply disappointed and disgusted by Seungri and Jung Joon Young. I hope these two are punished to the fullest extent and I pray for the wellbeing of the victims.
I can see how broken heart David is about his idol. His attitude is normal, he still appreciate Seungri music but he can't agree with Seungri wrong doing. For anyone who condemn fans who turn their back at their idol because of this scandal,please put yourself as the victim POV. You are human first before you are a fans.
Minto K FYI!!!!!!!!! Everybody please take some time and look at this!!! I see so much hates for Seungri, this kindhearted man who even protected a woman from bodyshaming on National TV from a bunch of jerks. mobile.twitter.com/poutyvip5lines/status/1245267139956748289 Part 1 : ruclips.net/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/видео.html Part 2: ruclips.net/video/0ebm3ykt9F8/видео.html Part 3: ruclips.net/video/DJw_zsa1H1Q/видео.html Part 4: ruclips.net/video/dNKDOJgog6w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bUHrrmGjy80/видео.html. People behind Burning Sun Scandal PLEASE DON’T CHOOSE TO BE IGNORANT, INFORM YOURSELF ABOUT THE BURNING SUN SCANDAL.
28:24 that sounds waaaay too suspicious, and i wouldn’t doubt that he knew because joonyoung would have all those videos on the phone if he’s sharing them in kaoko. and zico saying that he enjoys looking at his phone gives away that he’s watching something secret, which we all know is those spy cams.
A C Unless they run their own company or are as free as Jessi and Jay Park, then I doubt anyone will be aloud to speak up about the situation. Taking either side will still give then hate from the opposite side that they chose. I bet a lot of idols who hear of this situation do wish to speak out, but they're not aloud to because it could also get them caught in the situation...
suddenly stanning FYI!!!!!!!!! Everybody please take some time and look at this!!! I see so much hates for Seungri, this kindhearted man who even protected a woman from bodyshaming on National TV from a bunch of jerks. mobile.twitter.com/poutyvip5lines/status/1245267139956748289 Part 1 : ruclips.net/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/видео.html Part 2: ruclips.net/video/0ebm3ykt9F8/видео.html Part 3: ruclips.net/video/DJw_zsa1H1Q/видео.html Part 4: ruclips.net/video/dNKDOJgog6w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bUHrrmGjy80/видео.html. People behind Burning Sun Scandal PLEASE DON’T CHOOSE TO BE IGNORANT, INFORM YOURSELF ABOUT THE BURNING SUN SCANDAL.
@@cCrmCk that's true, but it doesn't justify the clear statistics showing an increase in interest and views on "the forbidden" part of porn. (Rape, snuff, drugging etc.) Which is truly horrifying.
Thank you David and Dany for explains what’s happening with all the proof that’s officially revealed with this case of the scandal.. I highly appreciate all your time to explain us as outsiders of Korea! I totally agree, this is not about kpop but to uncovered this monstrosity acts that are happening to innocents (mostly women but men too) every single day
@@danimetal4171 Well, you know the expression " spilling the tea" ? It comes from that and they have that cup with a picture of Taehyung aka V aka Tae from BTS sipping tea, so I gues Tae sipping tea, getting all that juicy truthful info ( kind of a pun)....I hope this helps
I literally had to translate this video adding Russian subs because Russian twitter has so many delusional fans I hope they watch this video and take something out of it...when I tell them that I was VIP, they don't listen to me, thinking I am throwing some shade...My argument stopped at the comment I got which said: "I am still by my baby Seungri's side, until the investigation really shows that he is guilty" and here I am trying to tell that chats are known to be real, that police is also involved, we can't fully rely on it
@@konway17 If we start thinking like that, then every single person becomes a suspect. I agree that what people choose to show on screen may not be their true self, and its wrong to assume that you know everything about a person from what side of theirselves they choose to portray. But assuming the worst of everyone is just exhausting, don't do that to yourself. Of course, if you do have evidence or suspicions about anyone, it's good to share them with a trustworthy relevant third party
@@konway17 I know what ure trying to do. There are no evidence of them in this or even having any interaction with any of the people revealed. Please dont target the innocents in your comment. If BTS are involved in any way of such horrible acts, that would be a huge let down since BTS has always conveying good messages through their albums and also their life they always talk about good stuff. It pretty much will hit the fans badly if they did this. Seungri and others revealed was known to be sketchy so people were like they kinda know those guys were trash. This time I'm actually happy BTS doesnt have many friends in the industry.
haepkhun "happy that bts doesn't much friends in industry" Yeah, I'm happy too. They even don't have time for vacation and even for this shit. So it really not cross my mind that bts is involve.
heyitsyourgrandmaboo hehehee because the girls/women are supporting the guys instead of the women who were assaulted, sure there probably are boys still supporting but right now it’s about woman sticking with women instead of their oppas
Thank you guys for organizing all this. I’ve been having a hard time following what’s going on, but I appreciate your research and knowledge. I’m so sick.
There's this one drama called "The Guardians" with a storyline about that topic, except instead of an idol, the dude is the son of a powerful politician, and everyone thinks he's wonderful and kind, but he's literally insane.
Ok so, as someone with ADHD I feel like I should explain a bit. I'm sure someone else already commented on this, but I can't find anything. ADHD is not exactly an illness, it's a disorder. ADHD is something that you're born with and that's there forever and you don't get "cured" or anything, so she'll always have ADHD. ADHD means "Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Syndrome". ADD used to be a different category of ADHD, it's the same thing but without the hyperactivity. They changed it recently and the official name for both with and without Hyperactivity is ADHD, so it's practically the same thing, Bom has a subcategory of ADHD which used to be called ADD, same thing. Now about what this is. "Attention Deficit" is the most important part of the name, which means you can't keep your attention on things like most people can. People with ADHD can't focus on stuff and have a very hard time reading, studying, and basically doing many things because of that. Also we are usually very disorganized. People with severe ADHD get prescribed medication from psychiatrists that helps them with focusing, that medication has a bit of methamphetamine in. Methamphetamine is, as you might know, illegal as a drug in most (if not all?) countries in the world, but ADHD medications have a very small dose, are ONLY prescribed, and are controlled by your doctor. They also don't get you high at all lol. So ADHD meds are legal in most countries, but not in Korea. Korea is still a bit behind on psychology stuff, both the laws and the public perception (same as my country, Greece)... So that's why Bom's situation became such a big deal. Some people are uninformed and love hating on others, especially idols.
I'm actually surprised that many people don't know ADHD. It's a quite common term in my country (Germany) and getting medication for it is completely normal too. I find it sad that Korea is so behind psychologically when it's actually so important. Here in Germany if someone got caught smuggling drugs and said it was for their ADHD, they would ask their doctor to confirm the story, probably pass it and nobody cared about it anymore. But Park Bom had to go through so much just because Koreans don't know anything about her condition when probably more than just a very few have that same disorder
ADHD meds are not illegal in Korea, you can still take ritalin, just not adderall. Also, many countries are strict about adderall. It's very rare in Norway too, whereas ritalin is quite common. I don't think Korea is lagging behind, it's common sense that they need to treat every drug related case the same no matter who it involves. I'm not shaming Bom for her mistake though, she obviously didn't have any ill intentions. Also, both adderall and ritalin can be abused and sold to students etc. I know ritalin was abused by students here to get better grades, but I've never heard of anyone getting high on it.
@@elsamuel695 Oh I didn't know that about the specific meds, thanks for the info. When I said that Korea is a bit behind I meant it as a community, the perception the people have. I don't think it's weird that the police investigated her or that Adderall is illegal. The bad thing is that the public kept calling her a "drug dealer" and all that, not that they held her accountable for whatever happened.
I've known QUITE a few people with ADHD and it's hell for them. In my country (Canada) we're getting away from the prescriptions because they can sometimes have horrible side effects and looking at cannabis use. It's legal here in Canada. I've seen where medical marijuana helps people with ADHD a TREMENDOUS amount and with seemingly how ignorant they are about the disorder in SK they'd probably lose their shit if they heard what was happening here.
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I hope the victims names will never leak, THE VICTIMS NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED
there are already rumors of female celebrities, but hopefully no more.
Omg Female Celebrities 😢
no. I hope they speak up about it. I don't about you, but they deserve to be heard and they deserve our support.
I feel disgusted with the delulu fans who are still protecting their oppas without thinking for a sec of those victims...
sadly there are many people out there who will blame the victims more than the disgusting misogynistic rapist pigs.
"2014 & 2017 were the worst years for kpop"
2019: hold my drink cause I'm coming thru!
2020: SIKE! Sit all yo asses down, peasants!
what happened in 2014 & 2017?
what happened?
@@1night1day deads, disbandments, people leaving companies, scandals, etc, etc, et
@@1night1day disbandment of groups and deaths of idols
@@1night1day 2017, a lot of people died. There were about 10 celebrities that died.
It’s not even a scandal anymore, it’s a *CRIME*
isn't that the same thing?
I so agree... Elite criminals!
@@crimewave4099 Datings are called scandals from the media...... And we all know dating are far from being a crime
@@redlove8861 Look up the definition of the word Scandal, dating scandal is very different.
crimewave In kpop, the word Scandal is used whenever an artist is in situation where they face intens critisime. Its not specifically the best thing to use 24/7 but it happens. Happens with date scandals like another person said, but also with the clothing, (hwasas red body suit to name on thing) and if they forget lines (blackpink i think had one time where jennie forgot the lyrics due to the hard lyrics). So no. Scandals are not equal to crimes.
why is no one appreciating how well these two made this video??? i mean as a international kpop fan i was so shook to hear all these further new on seungri case like damn... big shoutout to dkdktv for making such a good video and saying everything honestly :)
I've been looking for a reliable source to read because crazy int fans always twist the stories to make their idols look innocent, and haters also twist the stories to make it even worse. However, with these two I know I get the real info, and it was super useful!
i like the fact that they dont play safe like many other youtubers who still kinda support seungri to avoiding his deluded fans
This video is incredibly well-made. New subscriber here.
I don't even want to see people hating on DKDKTV after all that has been revealed.
Ikr...
Alliteration or something not defending seungri but it was still a bad thing they did.
What did they do tho?
Sorry im not a follower I just saw on twtr same comment
May I ask what happened?
IKR people are ignorant I love these guys
As a sexual assualt survivor I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys expressing your support for the victims here. Keep going you guys are great
Kelly Quinn i dont know your story but what i do know is youre amazing and brave and actually very inspiring as you could get through that.YOURE SO AMAZING GIRL
#metoo Do I have to say more?
You are strong, and however your situation went, it wasn't your fault. 💜
_You are amazing!_
I was abused my older cousin when I was 10...I may not be able to easily forgive anyone who involved in sexual abuse case..it's just..unacceptable.
Espcially JJYA..I can't even see the video/news with his picture in it without feeling queasy...
since you guys were brave enough, I will try to be too. Okay, here goes nothing. *_deep breaths_ *
I was raped repeatedly by my gym teacher when I was six years old, and till about two months ago only me and him knew about it. (That's when I decided to get professional help) I've had to live with _severe_ PTSD pretty much my whole life because of this. I celebrated my 23 birthday yesterday and I still haven't really "started" my life because of the panic attacks I get when seeing a guy in sweats, or with a mustache or encounter someone who's smell reminds me of him. It has ruined my life in so many ways.
I hope every one of these sick bastards gets what they deserve!
@@Bella-fm1ih Damn... That young? You are one strong girl! 💜 Never forget that! To keep it all inside like that for so many years... And as a kid... That takes some strength. And I'm glad you decided to get help, nothing should stand in your way of being able to live your life to the fullest! 💖
"This case is no longer about kpop; it's about Korea."
This is so accurate.
💯☝🏽
You know what's really scary? That there could be more chat rooms like this one and we dont know about them yet..
100% there has to be. These idols didn't just invent this idea, likely older idols may have even taught them this type of stuff or helped them get connections for prostitutes etc.
Yeah, true. We don't know just how many other chatrooms like this could be around. But, it's only a matter of time before someone finds them and exposes them.
hopefully these men getting caught scares those with such a chatroom to stop doing what they're doing and not trapping anymore victims....still want them to get caught too of course. And also it teaches the future generation of idols to never lose their morals and not blindly trust older idols.
DiAnE It was confirmed that there are more than 60 chatrooms similar to those of scumbags
Exactly. Exactly my point.
also the fact that some people are still supporting seungri while after years, park bom still gets hate over taking adderall and getting ps says everything about people’s morals.
Yes, the double standards piss me off
Omg yes. Despite all the evidence that cleared boms name. They turn the same blind eye to the same EVIDENCE INCRIMINATING seungri.
Like..wut...gnna go bang my head on the wall
Poor mom,she didn't do anything to other people,her mental health is not good and people are hating on her,while antimoral things like that are happening
Prescribed adderall at that
@qhrtpvustkf believe what you believe and keep being blind with accusing Bom is at the wrong side. And Seungri is on the right side with this scandal while the evidence of him in fault is real.
What messed up is they didn’t apologize to the victims? But to the public? I don’t need your apologize but the victims do!
Well them apologizing them would be hypocritical. Because if they even have one speck of decency that would make them able to feel apologetic, they would never do that. But yeah, they're only sorry cause they got caught
their apologies don't mean anything anyway. Jjy already said once when he apologized in the past that he didn't feel guilty at all. They're all just trying to save their asses now
But what they did we should not❌❌ forget till their death
They don't need to be respected
They haven't apologized to the victims for legal reasons. Doing so would be an admission of guilt, and they've probably been advised against doing that.
As someone who used to think highly of some of these people, specifically Seungri, I would hope that would have the small shred of decency to apologize for what they've done. Especially to those that they literally treated like objects. But if they were willing to sink to that level in the first place, its doubtful. Fuck em
Honestly i don’t think the victims need an apology either, they need justice, these men should be put in prison for at least 10 years
This is no longer a scandal, this is a criminal offence.
evidence seems pretty solid, but still this is a case under investigation. can't jump to criminal offence, just yet.
What? It IS a scandal because it's crimes.
Exactly. It was a case of multiple drugging, sexual harassment, forced intercourse! And other than disclosing videos that were asked to be kept hidden, they went onto film and share videos against the will of the victims! These are all crimes committed, and even the talks in the chatroom is an intended criminal offense. It is only as scandal because it involves celebrities and influencers, that does NOT mean they have not committed severe crimes!
REPEAT AFTER ME:THAT'S NOT A SCANDAL,THAT'S A CRIME!
Don't worry about Bom lol. South Korea may look down on her but the whole world is cheering for her. She's already topping the charts locally and internationally.
Wandering Wonderer it’s a good song. A lot of ppl can relate. And we’ve missed her.
Ik 💜💜 We love and support her
Wandering Wonderer yes that’s my girl we are there for her😭❤️❤️❤️
Why they look down on her
commented bc ppl are stupid and they dont understand the concept of taking drugs to help treat their mental health problems
Jail time for everyone involved, Make it a long stay too.
And ve a great jail time. Gatsby party in jail eating jail food.
This celebrity will get a jail time + repentance time(no entertainment work)
the rumors say they will re debut in jail by the name of "jailbirds"
More like forever at jail
Korea has pretty much shown to have really lenient punishment for criminals so i *seriously* hoped they'll lock those assholes behind the bar for a long period of time. It's gonna take those victims quite a long time to recover from the trauma.
You guys really nailed the Seungri and JJY case on the head. Thank you for spreading the message that this isn't about kpop, fan's "oppas" and so on and so forth. It's about the country, the society as a whole and the victims. Anyone should be ashamed of themselves for supporting either of these people. While I do believe in innocence until proven guilty, the evidence is so damning that there really isn't any room for that anymore. I won't blindly follow the police since it is mentioned that they had the police on their side, but still. Those poor women, my heart truly goes out to them.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 👏👏
The thing is international fans focus on the celebrities but as you said it’s more than that and this case is most likely connected w politicians just as how the chief of police was involved
the problem is that Seungri's name is bigger than JJY's, want it or not all that people is talkin is that Seungri is involved in rape when he is not.
I don't fucking care about guilty or not anymore, all I care is about missinformation and shit talking that people is doing. THIS is hurtin the community aswell.
It’s kind of sad that the Korean public isn’t aware of ADHD.
yeah.... it's not that rare of a thing... i was confused people didnt know
That's true and it is sad that they're ignoring it. I really felt frustrated when they criticized Henry's behavior when he was still in Real Men. He explained that he was diagnosed with it thus his behavior of being hyperactive but they still reasoned out that it's just a false front.
@@rinagracegonzales4292 I find this strange because i'm pretty young and i know what ADD and ADHD are like, its not that rare or complicated! im so confused as to why this isnt as well known in korea..... actually, very confused
Mental illness is not well known in Korea you're just expected to get over it alone and having a diagnosis for menatal illness can make it difficult to get a job actually it's really sad
Common mental illnesses other than depression are almost not known to the public where I live. It's very recent that people started acknowledging depression but it's not taken seriously. It might be common in some asian countries.
What’s the worst thing about it all. Not one person has given a single apology to the women, the victims, the man who was assaulted, no remorse. They’re all sociopaths
Ddaeng they are just apologizing for the fans . Like wtf bruh apologize to victims because you are guilty not bcoz you were caught
The only one who ever apologized to the victims was the guy from FT Island. Everyone else apologized to their fans and members
err, hi im a diagnosed sociopath by the university of oxford and i would kindly ask you change this comment, its quite offensive. thank you.
beboo lee he literally got exposed a few hours ago, and it depends if their company allows them to post the apology.
@@lemonheadbeb wait someone in ft island raped someone too? In what kind of world are we? Or is korea a special case?
I know you guys are gonna continue to discuss about this scandal and I was wondering if you can also mention about Jang Ja Yeon’s case (actress of Boys of Flowers who alleged committed suicide) that is being reinvestigated after 10 years. And how she has listed about 31 men (journalists, ceos, basically people in power) who sexually harassed and abused her in her written documents. I feel like you guys have the platform to reach a broader audience and I really hope people learn more about this. And they will find justice for this case.
damn. poor her :(
I second this, there is a petition about Jang Ja Yeon’s case because this case will close in about 2 weeks, please go sign it, apparently votes are being deleted www1.president.go.kr/petitions/559071
Vanna Tran They said under someone else’s comment about Jang Ja Yeon that they would make a video about it. Hopefully it will be very soon before the statue of limitations is up to receive enough signatures for the re-investigation.
Yes pls cover this this is hella impt too
Your post about Jang Ja Yeon is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. If you notice how the news of Seungri/Burning Sun and Jung Joon keep coming up and being covered, and how Jang JY case is being shielded due to Seungri's news, this is an old trick how Korea handles major serious news. Entertainers like Seungri and Jung are actually being used to cover up the serious news related to the people of power in Korea(politicians, business ceo's, etc). Entertainers' crimes always seemed to break major when Korea's trying to cover up the BIG important news. Such thing had happen 10 yrs ago with Jang Ja Yeon case, when G-Dragon and other entertainers were being prosecuted in public with the news of the drug scandal, and now how Seungri and other entertainers are being prosecuted right now. Seungri/Burning Sun case is important, but the most serious news is not being covered much as it should, which is Jang Ja Yeon case. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, when she was supposedly expired from suicide, when it was not. Korea needs to find those involved in her murder, and it can be difficult when they're in the position of power. It's actually scary, when you're trying to fit all the puzzles.
These text messages are just sick..
These people need to be locked up for good
How can people with so much go so low?
This is disturbing how human beings can be crazy . Disgusting , inhuman and dirty ,yikes. This is rape it should be called by its name
@SidKillz you wouldn't believe it but yesterday a watched a video where they ask knetz what they thing about everything and in one of the anwers they say is normal to send this kind of videos between friends and it became public because seungry is famous, like wtf.
For a moment I thought you wer talking about people in comments section until I realized oh texts from kaokao chat . It’s so sickening.
@@dionysusmots5446 Asian boss?
Needless to say Bom's comeback saved this week in Kpop and thank god she isn't part of YG anymore.
what company is she in??
@@kywillett i think it is D-Nation Entertainment 1:22
Couldn't agree more sis
She dodged a HUGE bullet. Everything happens for a reason. People were sad she left YG but look now.. thank God she did.
@@thesiiiiickest Yeah I have no idea why Dara and CL stayed. I loved 2NE1 and was so upset when YG pushed Minzy out by ignoring her.
Can’t wait, I hope David and Danny doesn’t feel burdened by the delusional fans who keep insisting their oppas are innocent
innocent until proven guilty is the number one rule of criminallaw. As a law student this is a very important law. It's not about him being an idol and he sure is not my favorite person, but even if he is a criminal he is still a human being and he has rights.
ipiesings ahhh but when the woman they raped is someone you know, that will be a different story won’t it? It’s sad how when women are suspects people throw them in bins straightaway and for men they still have support. Guilty until proven but 3 involved ady admitted to the wrongdoings so we still have to prove even after they’ve admitted?
@@huiyi4551 Don't listen to their biased opinions. I swear people are becoming dumb nowadays just to justify Seungri.
@@TaYLoRBReaKouT As a student law you should know what a solid proof is. Using human logic and all the proofs that had been proven true you can actually see that Seungri is not innocent. Also, what about the victims?
ipiesings i hope you or anyone you know never has to go through what their victims went through ... seriously.
there were so many cases tho where these celebrities just ask for forgiveness and are back in the variety scene.. I hope no one moves past this and everyone in the group chat is held accountable
or that one actor who had a rape scandal, went to the military and had all his crimes forgotten when he came back out ...... 🙄
Right?! It’s like a movie where the bad guy wins. It happens all the time unfortunately.
Can we reopen clara lees case? I think the higher ups manipulates text messages to make her look wrong.
And also..after his retirement...can the victims sue him or can he get his money taken away??? Like...he probably still got lots of money so he will be fine even if he’s not famous anymore. HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS!
no fake apology is gonna save them this time
Hale Svitkona wait who ??
This is not an ordinary or typical kpop scandal anymore. This is a human trafficking case.
Umm human trafficking is not the same as prostitution and spy cams.
Not trafficking. Prostitution
could you also do a video about Jang Ja Yeon? Its extremely important, and right now, its not getting any coverage because of burning sun and the groupchat. This case has been going on for 10 years, and because you have such a large audience, it could raise more awareness about the issue.
Wura Ogunnaike I was just about to comment about this. Jang Ja Yeon and other females who might be going through what she did, need justice. Especially if it involves influential men who are still in power. Please don’t let her pain be forgotten.
Hi so what is this about?
What happened?
I second this. All the victims deserve justice.
Its pretty interesting that Seungri didn't apologize for what he did, just that he's being hated.
Right?! Like what tf kind of half-assed, backhanded apology was that? Pure trash...
I just found out he’s been doing this since 2014. He’d “name” the girls “1,2,3,4,5” and make comments such as “1 gets drunk easy and has a nice personality, 2 is touchy, 5 is nice too” stuff like that. He’d say their pros and cons, treat them as objects not human.
Not even feel guilty , he is just pure evil
He is a sociopath so expect nothing. People like him should be ostracized.
Can't wait for the final lineup of PRISON101 ^^
JJY's texts make me physically sick to my stomach. With all the evidence how was he not immediately arrested?! Thank you guys for making these videos to make an international audience more aware of serious news in korea.
Those messages were known to the police but police and even prosecutor buried it. This is next level corruption and these celeb "oppas" were in on it. They deserve jail and ostracization.
I hope everyone in the group chat is held accountable and those women are given justice. I'm seriously still In shock rn
I think they will.
Jimin's tiny smol hands He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
I got a question! Is Mr. Kim the victim (of burning sun) the same Mr.Kim from the group chats??
@@51844mj who said that?
"kekkekeke"
you can "kekekkeke" in jail
Omg that got me
I wonder if their jail is like western jail, where sexual assault on children and women was the unforgivable crime?
Sounds like he's taking a shit and it won't come out
JJY needs to go to prison. he only feels bad because he got caught. he would've kept on doing this if he hadn't gotten caught. if the Korean gov't goes lightly on him that sends a terrible message to the public.
100% agree..
Truth!!
debinosa
I hope they take this seriously, but I honestly don't think that they will.
He deserves torture
I love BIGBANG. With all my heart. But there’s a fine line between being a loyal fan and a blind fanatic. I wish Seungri is innocent, but I must also look at all the evidence, and be objective about it. This is not about fandom wars anymore. A crime was commited, and criminals must be punished.
Innocent until proven guilty, yes. But I’m not gonna blindly support him just because I love him.
Exactly. I have been a VIP more than half of my life and I faced the feeling of devastation and betrayal. I went through the “he can't do this he's not like that" phase. I know it all but today after some of the screenshots got released, I just can't hold on to the hope of him being innocent... Me being disgusted would be an understatement. This amount of accusations doesn't just happen! He has to be involved even for a tiny bit. I will still wait for what the police has to say otherwise I'm done, I don't support what Seungri has done. Unless he's 100% innocent which I don't think he is, I don't think I can ever believe in him and like him ever again. Not like, I don't think I can EVER forgive him for this. I want to wait till the end of this, I still wish he didn't do this but that glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel is almost non existent now. I'm just so disappointed and mad, this is not the man that I have loved for all these years. I just wish he could've thought about his family, members and fans before even thinking about this. All I have wanted is justice for the victims from the start. I really hope they are alright and find their justice. I hope everyone who is involved in this will get punished.
I mean fan comes from fanatic but i get what you mean.
I just saw its proven :')
Big mood for all vips 😞
Same👍🏻
Totally agreee. This is not about kpop anymore. Here we are confronting society and all its shadows. I hope that some kpop fans stop arguing about their favs, and pay more attention to those that are the real victims here. I understood more how big was this when i read and watched all this stuff on our local news. When i saw the local newspapers talking about this, i said... well esta gente se jodio. I just feel bad for the victim.
Loreley linarez quezada "Esta gente se jodio"
Amiga estoy igual
Me vengo enterando de todo este asunto nada mas ahorita y estoy muy sorprendida la neta
Si que se jodieron 🤣🤣🤣
@@Professorbubblegum You sound like a biased fan, trying to protect your "oppa". This is more than a scandal, it's a fucking *CRIME.* Rape and drugging people is messed up and evil.
@@ReptilianTeaDrinker To give you guys further insite on this case, since most are stuck with 2019 evidences. Seungri was never a part of the M*lka groupchat, which was the groupchat that had r*pe and other stuff posted on. It has been proven with legal documents. The only groupchat that Seungri was a part of was the business groupchat. Another thing to be mindful off is reporters have ADMITTED on editing the kakao chat rooms. Lee was never Seungri, LEE was LEE JONGHYUN. Another thing be mindful of is Seungri offered to do a lie detector exam (I know it is not always accurate, but still.) Which the police DENIED. Alot of his allegations from prostitions have also been faulty. The only charge that everyone is sure of as of now is embezzlement from gambling. To read further and have more insights on the false allegations celeb news posted about him, please go to poutyvip5lines on twitter. The pinned tweet, is a very resourceful thread. It includes all news from Naver or other Actual News sites from Korea. As well as documents from court. (Which includes, people saying Seungri was not part of this. Includes reporters admitting to report because "negative feelings", and the clearance of his involvement in the chat rooms with JJY.)
I have ADHD too and it's hard to travel around, because my medicin is illegal in some countries. When I went to Australia I had to have a written permit on me AT ALL TIMES otherwise I could get arrested for carrying my meds around.
@f Actually all disorders are made up (since our own brains identified them and named them), but mental illness is still an illness and therefore should be treated. I literally cannot sleep at night if I don't get my medicine and I can't sit still or concentrate on anything.
Now stfu
@f you're fucking stupid.
@f you can literally see the difference in the brain when testing someone who is "normal" and someone with adhd (or any other disorder). And you can see their brain changing back to slightly more "normal" when they get the right medication. But sure its all made up....
@@nadiar.4638 exactly, ignorance is dangerous.
@f You're dumb as fuck. Your ignorance is baffling.
Honestly, most kpop fans i've seen, at least on Twitter, want justice for the victims. As everyone should.
In Instagram too, except for those annoying blind fans under the criminals' instagram posts.
bangtanproductions in latinamerca no, lmao. If you go to fb there is a lot of YG stans claims Seungri inocence and making like groups to support him
@@salmagm3249 Could be, still i think the majority are against Seungri and his actions. But of course, there are a lot of blind delusional people.
@@terehayakawa I wonder what evidence do they need to realize lmao.
@@salmagm3249 i fucking agree. they are so disgusting and still blinded by whatever their idols were saying and would still believed just because they've known their oppa's as angels and that's bullshit lol. i am deeply hurt to everything that is currently happening right now but this is just beyond and deeper than kpop, the is real situation but some of them weren't being serious about it and were still fucking worried about their oppas, i am just disgusted.
David's face when Danny was reading those texts is me, genuinely disgusted
Tas He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
@@51844mj why are you spamming this everywhere?!!
@@lookitsann omg hi
The thing is this not only a kpop scandal . not only idols are involved but also government people .
yes, but sadly only the suspects who's in the *entertainment* are the only ones who's receiving *ALL* the severe hate considering they're just the small pawn in the crime and the heads and masterminds are said to be those highly rank policeman and politician.
True. All of what's been revealed so far is simply the surface of it
@@alexjun6285 which is the scariest thing...
These idols and celebrities are just the tip of the iceberg, and it’s scary how many powerful politicians and people that could also be involved.
Anny's World but the point is sexual abuse and hidden camera crimes against women are not JUST K-pop problem but something that is prevalent throughout Korea.... to call it a “K-pop scandal” trivializes the larger issue at hand
When I first read about Seungri and as the days went by and more and more information came to light, I remembered when the members of Sistar warned I.O.I's Kim So Hye on Star Show 360 about male seniors in the industry and told her to stay away from them.
What pisses me off too is when I see fans say “Stop bringing this up it’s been really hard for the VIPS.” ...... I’m sure it’s been much harder for the victims over the past 4+ years.
This whole situation is exactly why I try to never idolize people. I can be a fan but I always remind myself that these people (which of course a lot of celebrities put up a facade for the cameras and public but that’s not what I’m talking about) can be someone different behind the cameras.
I remember going over the OJ Simpson case in my forensics class and watching all of these fans blindly supporting OJ when he was running from police and cheering for him and I was disgusted. I new it wasn’t good to blindly believe rumors but I truly realized that it wasn’t good to blindly support someone. OJ was a suspect in his wife’s murder and these people were cheering for him.
That’s why now I wait for the results of an investigation or release of evidence.
Because it’s never good to throw hate at someone for something unconfirmed but it’s also not good to faithfully stand by their side, especially when there are possible victims involved. The accused has family and friends for that and the best thing is to wait for the truth to come out.
Some VIP in Reddit and Weibo even says
“I wish I was the prostitute to please Seungri”
“Protect our oppa at all cost”
Like WTF and some of them were women...
an actual sane post
@@drcommondrate12 Not too sure about Reddit but I've definitely seen the ones on Weibo. However, now that there's no doubt regarding his participation in this, some of them had to keep a really low profile because they came under fire by many Chinese netizens for supporting him
@@drcommondrate12 Many half brain VIPs in twitter n insta still keep saying "No matter what we support you".
Shitshow fans.
may flower I’m sorry I started kpop like in 2017 I don’t know who OJ is..🤔I’m sorry I feel slow sometimes hehe
Zico def. knew. No one is going to treat anyone’s phone like the holy grail over phone numbers alone, we aren’t in 2005 and they aren’t hustling.
Oh, definitely. And it's suspicious how he said that, no, it was jjy's contacts that he was looking at and nothing else.
Like, for real? So you're telling me, every time you go to his house to look at the "golden phone", that whole time you're just looking at his contacts?
@@normalisntcomingbackjesusi8681 he said he was wondering what was on the goodness phone why yall stay trying to bring Zico in every scandal there is if he knows that person yall just so annoying and trying to sound so smart
@@dominquegreen8239 Just wait for it. The lawyer had the data from that chat room from 2015. Now the police can subpoena JJY's Kakao history and get ALL his convos since.... Whether Zico was involved or not, who knows, but he isn't the only one sh!tting himself and backpedaling. I'm waiting to see how many more of these disgusting pigs go down... They deserve everything they get.
there's 3 people already that said they were not involved and threatened to take legal action if anyone talked about them. now they confessed they had a part in it and ''retired'' from the entertainment industry. zico did the same thing and i think he'll have the same fate because this ''i'm taking legal action'' bullshit is just some attempt in trying to scare people from proving who these pieces of shit really are. now all of a sudden i don't think the nude seolhyun pic said to have been found in zico's phone is fake , i think it's real because these sick fucks are capable of doing such things.
@@dominquegreen8239 we all dunno whether if he is guilty or not for knowing, watch, enjoying and not stepping up. But neither do you zico fans know he is innocent or not. Stop calling him innocent just bc he claims to be. No one will step up when they can get away with it. Neither am i saying he know but seriously fans are too biased. Pls be objective. This is actually socially serious. Have some logic and brains
FINALLY! I had to stop myself from searching for more information because I know they will give me the accurate tea I need 🙏🏼
It's quickly developing though, and this is not all. I think there was two or three _massive_ threads on reddit sorting out the legit info if you're interested.
I recommend reddit.com/r/kpop
They have a thred on the front page and several explaining the timeline and all the evidence from credible sources start to finish.
This is sick. I’m a VIP, but basic human conscience comes first. I really hope these victims get justice.
As a Korean, I was really shocked when I saw a lot of comments supporting Seung li from other countries on twitter. But now I’m glad that you guys help international Kpop fans can see the fact.
that's exactly how it was, people were supporting because they didn't know the whole story, but now we get it and we are disgusted
Don't worry. Anyone who is sane is not defending him. Only delusional fans do that.
I’m completely speechless, shocked even. I’ve been studying for my consecutive exams the past three weeks and haven’t even peeped at kpop news till today. It’s all still sinking in. Like damn, is this real? I feel so bad for those poor women who went through so much agony and turmoil. And these celebrities who I’ve known for so long, how could they?! How could they do such horrible things to those victims! 😭
I see..
For non Koreans, we generally wait for evidence before we condemn people. We like to say "innocent until proven guilty" I know that isn't true in Korea which tends to jump to conclusions and condemn people based on rumor. That being said, initially I supported Seungri because nothing had yet confirmed that there was solid evidence of his guilt. However, apparently that has changed and I am coming to see that he was part of a sicker ring and culture of rape in the entertainment industry. So now you can be happy that you were right to assume based on no evidence at the time that he was guilty. I take no joy in this entire matter and am disappointed beyond belief that rumor has turned into fact. I however will still wait for arrest and trial before I abandon hope that there is something worth saving in Seungri.
I was pretty mad that you guys felt forced to take down the previous video you made about Seungri, because you did absolutely nothing wrong. You only reported what everyone else were reporting about at the time, and you gave a clear disclaimer whenever you offered your own opinions. So I'm glad to see you guys are posting about this again! It's honestly a huge deal. There's a lot of victims who deserve justice here, and it's also affecting kpop and Korean society as a whole. Multiple kpop companies' stocks are dropping and who knows what's gonna happen to YG. So this simply can't be ignored, just because fans don't wanna hear it/face it.
Anyone who's trying to bully you again because their delulu asses can't accept the truth, even when the police and the guilty parties themselves admit it, needs to just be ignored. The news doesn't wait for investigations to be over, people who say that are dumb. The news report on anything from case developments, updates, thoughts, speculations, rumors and official statements.
And now vips are blaming armies for seungri's scandal
@@hangezoe966 wait what?
@@ramenpickles8924 yes we are also being blamed because our fandom stood up for the womens who were sexually abused
@@hangezoe966 Not just VIPs, YG stans are blaming us for their faves not having comebacks. Who cares what they think! With this scandal they proved to be one of the most delusional fandoms in kpop.
@@helenam9268 What an idiot. Most BB fans are actually not sticking up for Seungri.
Seriously?!? Treating someone THAT badly about getting her own ADHD medication? Does Korea not know what ADHD is? btw, ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder) and ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) are often used for the same issue. I believe the technical term is ADD since it comes in forms that are not hyperactive and instead just distracted.
(For this example "normal" is used to describe people who do not have ADHD/ADD and not to belittle them in any way as it is often a genetically passed issue that is out of their control and it is NEVER their "fault") To oversimplify it, it is a brain imbalance of chemicals that can cause you to have issues with being distracted easily that are beyond your control. The two main kinds show up as being over energetic and not being able to sit still OR appearing normal but being distracted by every little thing. It is treated by giving a person stimulates (most common form is caffeine which will calm a person with ADHD down a little or make them sleepy) which unfortunately can contain an amount of the base form of medical meth (it is related but NOT the same). Some ADHD medications will work on people with ADHD but either not work on normal people or make them act like they now HAVE ADHD. Adderall became quite well known for this in the past and was sometimes used a a recreational drug. However, that was in the past much more than now. Doctors have been reducing this effect and coming up with new medications without those side effects at a very quick pace over the past few years. For instance, I was told my medication (Adderall which Park Bom is getting in trouble for) would either help me if ADHD was present or not effect me at all if I were normal.
Myself and my two sons have it in various forms and extremes. My oldest son would sometimes come home crying because he was often punished with things like yelling and no recess time with the other kids because he couldn't sit still and often didn't finish his homework on time. Even with medication, effort is required to do things that normal people find easy to accomplish. Without medication, it can be nearly impossible to do some tasks.
It seems to me that Korean officials are not educated about the ADHD and its medical advancements. It is a very common disorder to have so I hope they educate themselves quickl;y instead of stigmatizing people with ADHD.
I can't believe there are still Knetz who are still so judgy about Bom's comeback. I thought they are one of the most educated people in the world.
Korea, while becoming quite progressive, still thinks of mental health very jokingly. It's why suicide rates are so high, and why deaths, like Jonghyuns for example, create such large impacts in how they think. Things have changed a bit, but they need to change more.
Korean officials acknowledge ADHD and it is legal to get treatment and medication, just not adderall, and especially not without going through the legal procedure of importing drugs. Just thought I'd clear things up so people don't think Korea has no ADHD meds.
Korea is not the only country to be strict about adderall, Norway for example is too. Ritalin is still common in Korea, and there are other meds too. She made a mistake and the authorities need to treat it as they would any other drug related case. That however doesn't give people the right to label her as a drug abuser. I don't know how many people are holding this against her, but it's sad anyways, since she obviously didn't have any ill intentions. She doesn't deserve to be hated for such a tiny mistake.
"Does Korea not know what ADHD is?"
shut the fuck up koreaboo
This was an amazing and informative comment. This was an issue very close to my heart. My brother was diagnosed when he was 9 and for the past 7 years he’s tested SEVERAL different types of ADHD meds because different meds worked better for him. I imagine that in Park Bom’s case even if she could legally be prescribed Ritalin in Korea that particular medication might not have helped her therefore she felt like she needed adderall.
I got into kpop because of BB but for some reason, I've NEVER liked Seungri. He just had a weird vibe to him that repelled me...
Wow. Instinct.
Yes intuition is powerful and should never be ignored! It could save your life some day. People who give off a vibe like that even when you only see them through a screen have true evil within them and Seungri had fans saying they got a weird vibe from him from the beginning.
finally someone I can agree with. Same Hereeeeee
Yea same here. I mean I was fine with the other members but idk about Seungri. There was something about him that didn't sit right with me.
Same here. I always saw him as the weakest link and felt like he was a fake.
Me too actually...even with Gdragon I was kinda okay (Taeyang always was my bias because of his voice) idk I remember a show when he kept talking about GG Yuri...he was bit..like they sleezy guys you try to avoid
*Guys, this is only the beginning.* This shit roots _deep,_ and what we're seeing right now is only the tip of the iceberg we're about to hit. *_Hold on tight, we're in for an enormous crash!_*
Well said ! 👏 you had stool words from my mouth ... the rabbit shit hole is REALLY DEEP my friend.
Wonder how many of those sick asses are gonna be exposed .
Its about time . May justice be served
YES! Especially if many women (and young men!) start going public with verifiable claims of abuse at the hands of celebrities and public figures, it will be SKorea's METOO moment. And we can be pretty sure every Kpop idol, CEO, and politician who's ever bought sex , pimped or dealt in porn/trafficking is sh*tting their pants right about now. LET THIS SCANDAL/CRIME BE A WARNING to all kpop idols, especially young generation...keep your life squeeky clean my brothers and sisters, or the only place you'll be singing is the prison dining hall.
And if there is not an enormous crash ... it will be highly suspicious. Everybody knows it. I just hope the usual "politness" (not sure how to say it in my second tongue) of Korea will not let this shit "slip into thin air" when the sentences will be given to "all" the rotten heads involved. I am sure there will be a try to cover up a lot of the people involved or even some extensions of the crimes that had been done. I really hope Korea won't minimize or smooth the situation for some "preservation of status" or some shit. We see it all the time around the world where justice is poorly done because of some sort of paternal reasoning.
Anyways. I hope that they will all be dragged with heavy pressure into a brick wall until unrecognisable from their previous image.
Please I'm hoping no one will dig who are victims are. Revealing them add more pain for them. They need to be protected through out the case even if the justice will be given. Their identity should not be known.
I think this is the only reasonable comment I saw
Adelaida Canoneo He once said southeast Asians girls are easy to get with... that’s why he travels there so many times to get what he wants to please his fucking boner.
@@51844mj your wrong his business partner in LA is southeast asian and he loves a hot sexy bitch...damn i don't want to read it again... disgusting bastard...
Can you please take down that apology video you never had to give in the first place if it wasn't for the psychos attacking you
Yesss shame on those ppl who were proudly attacking them lok 😒
I agree!
Or they can still use it..kind of like making a video of the day they apology and the time they receive apology from those dumb asses...although there's a small chance that it may happen since these people are mostly delulu.
No dont take it down the apology video is the big slap to those delulu fans
Seriously! I was fuming when they listened to those ppl & actually apologized. I see where Danny & david felt like they had to, but fans of the singer and the group mentioned went into hyperdrive with defending their favs they didnt stop & think for a moment that there might be some legitimacy to the story. They follow blindly & defend way too strongly. Dkdktv yall got my support
"By the time you know it, you have a Mao portrait on your wall and shit like that and you're like using Weibo." the way I choked on air when Danny said that omg. That's the tea of this episode 🤣
David’s progressively more grossed-out face starting at 24:15 ... my reaction exactly.😑
We might not imagine them to be capable of such things but ... May this be yet another reminder that we do. not. know. these. people. It’s horrifying to think that all these victims could have potentially gone on without a voice, having to keep their assault to themselves. And the women who were given the sleeping pills...how they must have felt upon waking up and realizing what happened. I hope their identities are kept secret and that all the corruption and cover-up’s can just be purged all at once.
Awsaya same
Amen.
Well said.
Yes, the more he read, the more disgusted I felt. And shocked. I think I was a bit naive, like because as an outsider, their culture seems so respectful and friendly, etc, that this shovked me they would be doing these horrendous acts and sharing it about and be so callous by mocking and joking about it in the chat with eachother. Removed my rose-colored glasses for sure and woke me up that there are sickos everywhere doing these acts and abusing their power!!
I hope the journalists and victims are protected. These men have been so abusive and these women deserve justice.
As a VIP . I always felt like GD was critical of seungri's behavior now i understand why . I guess he knew alot about him
Mer K The members felt there was something wrong and that's why he distanced himself from them so he can do his shady business. He didn't even event them at his birthday party.
really? suspicious af.
i think top mentioned in a show before, that he's really concerned on who seungri hangs out with
I bet the 4 of them are heartbroken now . Even if your little brother is a trouble maker you'll always worry about him
@@merykhan97 heartbroken and disappointed. imagine the number of times GD and TOP had tried to warn Seungri
Lmao they punched the wrong dude. All this coming to light because y’all gave some fool a bruise lmao 😂 🤣
Prison 101 group debut!
Confirmed members: Seungri, JJY, Choi Junghoon (FT Island), Lee Jonghyun (CN Blue), Yong Junhyun (Highlight).
Potential for debute: Zico
Alicia Koh son seung won (the actor from laughter in waikiki) might as well join them in prison for drinking and driving
this is just sad
So far it's actually been confirmed that Zico is not part of the group chat and was only having fun with Joonyoung's phone by looking at the various contacts
@Moof Poof Zico, Roy Kim, Eddy Kim and few less popular soloists are highly suspected to be part of the chatroom. Those three definitely know.. and I think that BB members also know something because they warned Seungri about "bad people"...
@@AlyxLyrics Roy kim is cleared....he was only suspected for being "mr.kim" but that kim isn't a singer..
RM suggested we read Map of the Soul by Carl Jung a while back and many more books that we would come to find is somehow related to the storyline. Anyways, it’s interesting because the author of the book Demian, in which the WINGS series was based on, is a student and patient of Carl Jung. So it seems we’ve gone full circle and I’m curious to see where this new concept is going.
kimichi💜
That’s why I love about them they really put their all into the music
Like they’ve actually been preparing this 💜💜💜💜💜I love and respect them so much just because they always know what their doing
RM is really trying to educate us with all these book recommendations.
Damn my man reads Carl jung😭😭
I don't understand why these two guys are cursing all the time. And they sound awkward.
wow I didn't know that..
and yeah gonna get and read the book now lol
Its concerning that they had a high ranking police chief to watch over a club. It makes me think that there were many other things going on there, I pray everyone involved is exposed and the victims get justice.
I'm just wondering if YG is really that innocent... He was under that company the whole time...
yeah and + yg denied the allegations of seungri's connection to that chatroom at first🤔
Not to mention, the hyungs seem know something off about the business that they warned Seungri years ago.
@@dewianjani8021 exactly. Seungri didn't get all the connections himself, connections are passed down. To have the head of police allegedly on his side could means that it had to have been a trusted connection made through another contract. Someone that high up doesn't just walk up and offer to defend them because they're a fan. Seungri was introduced to them by someone in the industry. And it worries me we may find out way more terrible things about YG or his artists.
Trust me, none of the entertainment companies are innocent. They are much worse. I mean supplying your artists to investors for thousands and thousands of dollars? Not done.
Yg was raided for embezzling money for gambling.
Just a reminder this proves you shouldn't trust an idol. because they seem funny, talented, and do cute aegyo doesn't mean anything. Don't forget your seeing the idols solely do FANSERVICE for their idol image. You stan your idols not the person, you have no idea how they are behind that perfect idol image.
Nice user name.
It's a persona
@@1animorph exactly and fans forget that their idol is just a persona made for entertainment and not their real self. it's ok to idolized them but never be blinded to reality that idols are humans and should be judged as humans and not be treated like a god
SM Entertainment Sucks totally agree. That’s one reason why I hate how aegyo is so widely encouraged in the kpop industry. It incentivizes fans to infantalize grown men and women who are capable of good and evil just like any other grown adult. A 26 yr old kpop idol still has the needs and urges of a regular 26 year old man.
This is one of the reasons why I have trust issues sometimes
I JUST WANT JUSTICE FOR THE GIRLS .
J Forkink me too they didn’t even get an apology 😭😭🥺
these celebrity's are horrible enough but its the "fans" that still support them that scare me..hope this case can purge both the celebrities and the delusional fans
Just thank god, that these fans are not deluded to think that rape is ok if the guy is good looking..
Actually, tbh, the fans aren't really "that" supportive of seungri. At least, not as many as you think. Maybe the number may still be big when u think of it, but the number that wish for the victims best in life and justice AND that are hating on seungri for being part of this is way~ bigger than the fans still supporting him
But think, this happens in other places too. Look at Michael Jackson. Sooo many people still love and adore him, even do tributes for him (Lay and NCT) but it was found that he did so many terrible things too. They don't support or love the persons actions but they love and support the artist they were before all that happened. They think of the good person they once were and hope that they can be a good person again.
@@sin3358 think about it tho.. if they really support seungri..then theyd wish for his punishment..so that he wont fall any deeper to the lingering abyss than he already has...that is wut true supporters must feel...sad but true
Truth hurts..and "never judge a book by its cover.."
Thankfully theyre a small percentage of people who think what they did is okay or excusable
I've heard that ADD and ADHD arent really discussed or addressed in Korea so I feel bad for Park Bom. There are varying degrees of it but I'm assuming if she went as far as importing medications that are common for dealing with it that she felt she needed it.
It seems the Korean public will never care about that tho. They seem so harsh on their celebrities.
I am surprised to see that there are still overly attached fans who actually believes that Seungri is innocent .
Oh boy, how blind they are.
G_to_V most of us Vips don’t believe he’s innocent but you will always have some fans that support him. People still blindly support rkelly so it’s not that surprising.
@@YuGiOh912324
I know that, but it's really strange, especially taking for what he is accused of.
I like how everyone is pretending that YG himself is not involved in shady business of this level or worse.
mightytaiger trueeee
Lol... Ikr! YG is the biggest snake ever
Truee. All those little naive girl traineers that want to be idols...
I would be surprised if he is not involved in any way..
Finally someone said it. Everyone seem to be defending him and the company. Its crazy. He seem so much so much so muchhhh worse but also a lot smarter about getting caught
These people are just sorry coz they were caught.
YOU 👏🏽 SHOULD 👏🏽 PUT 👏🏽 TIME 👏🏽 STAMPS 👏🏽 IN THE DESCRIPTION!
Ok, but thank you! For the deeper deeps of the kpop industry (?) 💜
It's crazy how this is going international. In America on the biggest news anchor Fox News, this is the number one topic. Not only online but on the national TV. It's insane how international this has gotten...
Seriously???
Fox News isn’t the biggest news outlet but yeah it’s even big here.
Elizabeth LeBeau well Fox News isn’t good anymore... since trump was elected...ugh...
Overthemoon why you have to bring trump into this 😂 (no hate)
heyitsyourgrandmaboo hehehee
Cause that’s all they talk about. Is trump :/
I really feel for the victims and so glad they will get their justice, but This will not only hit kpop industry real hard but also Korea economy , I hope this will be a wake up call for all the fans not only kpop but whoever idols you like don’t go overboard with it
I think it is also a wake up call for kpop idols who were considering being a part of something similarly corrupt or currently headed down the wrong path, excessive drinking, doing drugs, etc. I hope they understand what the consequences can be if they misuse their platforms. It's ok to show support for the artists you love and to spread positivity, but when it is evident that they've done something wrong, you need to acknowledge that there is a problem instead of being delusional.
I hate and am disappointed on Seungri for knowing everything and not doing anything and even participating in it...
But I am so disgusted by that Yoon Jung Yyung...Punish them.
Yes I'm a VIP but first I'm a human being and I want justice for those victims.
last to first ahhh thank you for being one of the intellectual vips
You meant Jung Joon young?
The other guy did less than Seungri. Seungri assisted in prostitution, possible even sex trafficking. Seungri won’t even give his phone to authorities even though they’re warranted to have it. He didn’t even apologise properly, he’s only apologised that people now hate him. He’s a disgusting human being.
@@CuteBunny5159 didn't he break his phone or something before they could get to it? Heard something about his phone being broken lol
@@hidanjashin5613 not true
you guys are awesome. thanks for telling it like it is.
I hope you guys don’t get hate. There is only so much a fan can support an idol. There will come a point when fans will have to understand what the did is very wrong.
I just remember the last time you discussed this in one of your last video. You guys had to apologise for it, even thought you did say it is an on going investigation.
imagine people are even trying to blame the victims for what happened calling them prostitutes. First of all it was done WITHOUT consent, forcefully even drugged like wtf even if they were prostitutes that DOES NOT invalidate their right to say NO to a fcking situation. Honestly everyone defending seungri or blaming the victims or turning this into a fcking fandom or kpop issues deserves the best of the worst they could get.
This is probably the best comment I've seen so far. I'm glad to see that there are people with functional neurons like you. Ppl be like "omg Seungri must be so stressed, I believe in him, Oppa I support you, He is not bad" like wtf????????? They support a criminal because he is an idol?
Go to JoonJung's instagram you are gonna have a mental breakdown when you see all those delusional fans supporting a rapist
Not everyone
facts sis!
And also those crazy fans attacking reporter kang. I’m really afraid for Lawyer Bang, Reporter Kang and the whistleblower-repairman, I feel like someone might kill them :/
I think to be honest I think the women who were prostitutes in this situation were probably horribly treated. A lot of these men in the club were from out of the country so they had no fear about acting out any of their destructive fantasies. They could have been raped and abused during these interactions. It is very easy to put women at a lower level than other women because of their choice of job but they need to receive equal protection. I have heard online in videos etc. that prostitutes are used by quite a few married Korean men and they don't view it as cheating. Korea has problem with women over 50 living in poverty who have resorted to prostitution because there is not adequate social services.
‘This is truly disgusting and horrifying I feel so empty! I’m shocked I hope the victims are rightfully helped and get their justice! #justiceforvictims
I think I found my new favorite commenting/news channel. You guys are really interesting to listen to, and it’s clear you take the issues and stories very seriously.
You guys should delete that apology video you posted.
afro curly girl what apology?
@@chulcat ruclips.net/video/jLhe8oL8iLc/видео.html
@@chulcat They apologised for "dragging" Seungri and making assomptions on the scandal before the truth was revealed. Now that we know he's trash they can delete it lol
plz do~ there is nothing to apologize for
Up for this
How about Jang Ja Yeon? Can you cover this issue, too? It's being ignored. Thank you.
Wait what's that about?what happened?
We'll make a video soon
up!!!!
YASHHH! I'M PISSED OFF WITH THIS WHOLE SHIT! SHE NEEDS JUSTICE! ALL THE VICTIMS NEED JUSTICE!
@@tabindashamaoon124 she was an actress who killed herself 10 years ago because she was raped over 100 times by many men
“You’re a human being before you’re a fan”- DKDK 2K19
As a Big Bang and a 2 Days and 1 Night fan, I am deeply disappointed and disgusted by Seungri and Jung Joon Young. I hope these two are punished to the fullest extent and I pray for the wellbeing of the victims.
I can see how broken heart David is about his idol. His attitude is normal, he still appreciate Seungri music but he can't agree with Seungri wrong doing.
For anyone who condemn fans who turn their back at their idol because of this scandal,please put yourself as the victim POV. You are human first before you are a fans.
Fun fact - Demian was patient of Karl Jung.. Demians book was the base for wings album..
Now Carl jungs book is base for MOTS
RAP god demian is the book! the writer was called hermann hesse
@@sunrisesope that's what I was about to type.... And also that Hermann was not a patient of Karl Jung he was a friend.
@@sunrisesope Dude that's like one of the best books i have ever read. Period.
I have ADD and took Adderal for a while for it. She's doing amazing and I'm so happy for her that she's back I'm so excited to support her!
3 words for your very special JJY oppa:
👏 *GO* 👏 *TO* 👏 *PRISON* 👏
and seugri, and that highlight member, and the ftisland members that were in that chatroom, just all of the shitheads involved
not in prison more of go to hell.
Marta Monteiro Members of Prison 101
Minto K FYI!!!!!!!!!
Everybody please take some time and look at this!!! I see so much hates for Seungri, this kindhearted man who even protected a woman from bodyshaming on National TV from a bunch of jerks.
mobile.twitter.com/poutyvip5lines/status/1245267139956748289
Part 1 : ruclips.net/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/видео.html
Part 2: ruclips.net/video/0ebm3ykt9F8/видео.html
Part 3: ruclips.net/video/DJw_zsa1H1Q/видео.html
Part 4: ruclips.net/video/dNKDOJgog6w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/bUHrrmGjy80/видео.html. People behind Burning Sun Scandal
PLEASE DON’T CHOOSE TO BE IGNORANT, INFORM YOURSELF ABOUT THE BURNING SUN SCANDAL.
Shut up fuck up
28:24 that sounds waaaay too suspicious, and i wouldn’t doubt that he knew because joonyoung would have all those videos on the phone if he’s sharing them in kaoko. and zico saying that he enjoys looking at his phone gives away that he’s watching something secret, which we all know is those spy cams.
Y’all should have never been forced to apologize. Even Lee Hongki isn’t supporting these delusional fans.
how come no celeb - drama, movies, idols have commented on this whole saga :) .. i mean hello!.. right now is a good time to use your social media
A C Unless they run their own company or are as free as Jessi and Jay Park, then I doubt anyone will be aloud to speak up about the situation. Taking either side will still give then hate from the opposite side that they chose. I bet a lot of idols who hear of this situation do wish to speak out, but they're not aloud to because it could also get them caught in the situation...
Brazilian fans are dropping Seungri. Everyone is disappointed with this situation.
JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS.
Aren't you guys now glad that you didn't donate money in Seungri's name to the Comfort Women's charity ?
Didnt even know that charity existed tbh...
How fucking ironic
suddenly stanning FYI!!!!!!!!!
Everybody please take some time and look at this!!! I see so much hates for Seungri, this kindhearted man who even protected a woman from bodyshaming on National TV from a bunch of jerks.
mobile.twitter.com/poutyvip5lines/status/1245267139956748289
Part 1 : ruclips.net/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/видео.html
Part 2: ruclips.net/video/0ebm3ykt9F8/видео.html
Part 3: ruclips.net/video/DJw_zsa1H1Q/видео.html
Part 4: ruclips.net/video/dNKDOJgog6w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/bUHrrmGjy80/видео.html. People behind Burning Sun Scandal
PLEASE DON’T CHOOSE TO BE IGNORANT, INFORM YOURSELF ABOUT THE BURNING SUN SCANDAL.
@@smokinonyourtop5 Finally the people need to know
The sickest thing is people are looking for the vids of the women being raped. _It's even trending on pornhub._
I seriously feel like throwing up.
What...... This is sick 🤮
Duhhh women got tricked into porn industries are not uncommon. People enjoying stuffs without understanding things behind the scenes
@@cCrmCk that's true, but it doesn't justify the clear statistics showing an increase in interest and views on "the forbidden" part of porn. (Rape, snuff, drugging etc.) Which is truly horrifying.
@@BellaCW those are roleplay videos right?(the pornhub ones)?
@@gogozeppeli9267 There are real ones on there.
BTS making us Study hard with all these themes...😂💜
Legends
that's what happens when your leader's IQ is 148 :')
@@alina.luna_ Factssss
Catalina Ester Really? Who are those 2 members?
@@preciousini7784 Jimin and Jeongguk.
as a psychology grad, the jung part is accurate af! i love u guys
Thank you David and Dany for explains what’s happening with all the proof that’s officially revealed with this case of the scandal.. I highly appreciate all your time to explain us as outsiders of Korea! I totally agree, this is not about kpop but to uncovered this monstrosity acts that are happening to innocents (mostly women but men too) every single day
FINALLY ITS TEA TIME☕️
TEAAAAA
I've seen a lot of videos out there that talk about Seungri but I wasn't satisfied until DKDKTV talk about it! the most trusted tea !
Can someone please explain what this tea thing means? I'm kinda new to kpop.
@@danimetal4171 Well, you know the expression " spilling the tea" ? It comes from that and they have that cup with a picture of Taehyung aka V aka Tae from BTS sipping tea, so I gues Tae sipping tea, getting all that juicy truthful info ( kind of a pun)....I hope this helps
Honestly I hope EVERYONE involved goes to jail no matter how big they are ..
Yeah, I hope they get punished like a normal, unknown citizen would be.
Yeah I hope they reveal all names. Not just idols. All of them...
@@bloodykiss0628 agreed. The public need to know the names of these pigs.
this is so freaking disgusting. i dont understand how people could still support them.
Him... The rest did nothing wrong.... For now...
@Thanos The Boss ooooooo..... This is... Wow
i support his songs. its nice. but not him..tbh im a guy and he is by bias since haru haru era..
@@youtubepremiumenjoyer8820 sooo out of context !!!!!!!
@@youtubepremiumenjoyer8820 by the way the problem COME from seungri and jjy
I literally had to translate this video adding Russian subs because Russian twitter has so many delusional fans I hope they watch this video and take something out of it...when I tell them that I was VIP, they don't listen to me, thinking I am throwing some shade...My argument stopped at the comment I got which said: "I am still by my baby Seungri's side, until the investigation really shows that he is guilty" and here I am trying to tell that chats are known to be real, that police is also involved, we can't fully rely on it
Да! жду видео
ffelicia 0h я уже сделала субтитры) какое видео?
Jimin-ssi немного затупила, нашла субтитры! Спасибо!
I was wondering about the russian subs. Thanks for doing that.
Support support!! People should really check the evidence!! Thank you for all your effort in translating!!
the persona thing is exactly whats being exposed with the whole camera scandal...we're seeing the real people behind the idol
Damn, you’re right. If only bts could make the criminals repent the same way the persona game characters did.
Maybe even bts are in this too...
@@konway17 If we start thinking like that, then every single person becomes a suspect. I agree that what people choose to show on screen may not be their true self, and its wrong to assume that you know everything about a person from what side of theirselves they choose to portray. But assuming the worst of everyone is just exhausting, don't do that to yourself. Of course, if you do have evidence or suspicions about anyone, it's good to share them with a trustworthy relevant third party
@@konway17 I know what ure trying to do. There are no evidence of them in this or even having any interaction with any of the people revealed. Please dont target the innocents in your comment. If BTS are involved in any way of such horrible acts, that would be a huge let down since BTS has always conveying good messages through their albums and also their life they always talk about good stuff. It pretty much will hit the fans badly if they did this. Seungri and others revealed was known to be sketchy so people were like they kinda know those guys were trash. This time I'm actually happy BTS doesnt have many friends in the industry.
haepkhun
"happy that bts doesn't much friends in industry"
Yeah, I'm happy too. They even don't have time for vacation and even for this shit. So it really not cross my mind that bts is involve.
Nice words about Park Bom please
i hope so😫
For kpop fans outhere that still don't understand, please note. Before you do fangirl, you are woman.
well a lot of fans are actually girls not women
november132 what about fanboys?
Why do you guys keep saying women? It should be human because there are guy fans too. Geez
- unless ur a potato
heyitsyourgrandmaboo hehehee because the girls/women are supporting the guys instead of the women who were assaulted, sure there probably are boys still supporting but right now it’s about woman sticking with women instead of their oppas
Thank you guys for organizing all this. I’ve been having a hard time following what’s going on, but I appreciate your research and knowledge. I’m so sick.
This sounds like a story in a K-DRAMA. You thought these idols are kind but they actually have two faces. OMG SCARY.
You will never see a drama that gets into this because they're afraid it will hurt their brand. So much drama it would make a great show though.
There's this one drama called "The Guardians" with a storyline about that topic, except instead of an idol, the dude is the son of a powerful politician, and everyone thinks he's wonderful and kind, but he's literally insane.
@@knjjah2776 that is going on my to watch list. 😆
fashionMikuXOXO I mean.... what you expect.. they’re humans lmao
Saw his insta and it's full of people who don't understand how terrible his actions are and even calling it a mistake smh
MicDropThatAss snd telling us “PeOpLe MaKe MiSTaKeS” . bulshiet😂
"Mistake" needs to be replaced with "hobby." Smh...
Ok so, as someone with ADHD I feel like I should explain a bit. I'm sure someone else already commented on this, but I can't find anything.
ADHD is not exactly an illness, it's a disorder. ADHD is something that you're born with and that's there forever and you don't get "cured" or anything, so she'll always have ADHD. ADHD means "Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Syndrome". ADD used to be a different category of ADHD, it's the same thing but without the hyperactivity. They changed it recently and the official name for both with and without Hyperactivity is ADHD, so it's practically the same thing, Bom has a subcategory of ADHD which used to be called ADD, same thing.
Now about what this is. "Attention Deficit" is the most important part of the name, which means you can't keep your attention on things like most people can. People with ADHD can't focus on stuff and have a very hard time reading, studying, and basically doing many things because of that. Also we are usually very disorganized.
People with severe ADHD get prescribed medication from psychiatrists that helps them with focusing, that medication has a bit of methamphetamine in. Methamphetamine is, as you might know, illegal as a drug in most (if not all?) countries in the world, but ADHD medications have a very small dose, are ONLY prescribed, and are controlled by your doctor. They also don't get you high at all lol.
So ADHD meds are legal in most countries, but not in Korea. Korea is still a bit behind on psychology stuff, both the laws and the public perception (same as my country, Greece)... So that's why Bom's situation became such a big deal. Some people are uninformed and love hating on others, especially idols.
I'm actually surprised that many people don't know ADHD. It's a quite common term in my country (Germany) and getting medication for it is completely normal too. I find it sad that Korea is so behind psychologically when it's actually so important.
Here in Germany if someone got caught smuggling drugs and said it was for their ADHD, they would ask their doctor to confirm the story, probably pass it and nobody cared about it anymore. But Park Bom had to go through so much just because Koreans don't know anything about her condition when probably more than just a very few have that same disorder
ADHD meds are not illegal in Korea, you can still take ritalin, just not adderall.
Also, many countries are strict about adderall. It's very rare in Norway too, whereas ritalin is quite common. I don't think Korea is lagging behind, it's common sense that they need to treat every drug related case the same no matter who it involves. I'm not shaming Bom for her mistake though, she obviously didn't have any ill intentions.
Also, both adderall and ritalin can be abused and sold to students etc. I know ritalin was abused by students here to get better grades, but I've never heard of anyone getting high on it.
@@elsamuel695 Oh I didn't know that about the specific meds, thanks for the info.
When I said that Korea is a bit behind I meant it as a community, the perception the people have. I don't think it's weird that the police investigated her or that Adderall is illegal. The bad thing is that the public kept calling her a "drug dealer" and all that, not that they held her accountable for whatever happened.
@@nastasiacr3676 Yeah, I agree. They shouldn't hold it against her and be so hateful.
I've known QUITE a few people with ADHD and it's hell for them. In my country (Canada) we're getting away from the prescriptions because they can sometimes have horrible side effects and looking at cannabis use. It's legal here in Canada. I've seen where medical marijuana helps people with ADHD a TREMENDOUS amount and with seemingly how ignorant they are about the disorder in SK they'd probably lose their shit if they heard what was happening here.
BTS is working with Psycoanalysis...
*Dances in psycology student*
*Psychology