How McLaren has beaten F1 2022's major car problem
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2022
- Porpoising was the big talking point of the first pre-season Formula 1 test in Barcelona, with everyone afflicted by it to a greater or lesser extent. But the team that seemed least concerned about the situation was McLaren.
Thanks to the sharp eye of our technical expert Gary Anderson, and the artificially-created wet running on the final day of the test, we can see at least some of the reason why McLaren was in such good shape compared to its rivals. And if we’ve noticed, you can guarantee that rival teams will have spotted exactly the same thing.
So what did McLaren get so right, and what does it tell us about the development direction others will need to go in to solve their own porpoising problems?
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In hindsight , this is like when you write an exam and feel that it was way to easy but everyone else really struggled and turns out that you failed out right
As a McLaren fan, them getting this issue sorted before testing even started is brilliant news. Other teams will need to spend dev. time trying to copy McLaren's success, and by effect, McLaren will be free to spend their time fixing other issues on their car.
or they will just copy it to reduce the time needed to research for a new solution.
@@Ram_RM clearly they will try to replicate it, but each car is different, and adapting the solutions to each specific design is what king David is talking about.
@@Ram_RM teams will still need to devote time to research & development, there is a new 15point deduction if you are caught copying parts with no evidence of your development or understanding of the part.
or some teams did anticipate this and havent put all their cards on the table. Its just the first test. I find it odd RB has been very silent and low key since the launch of their car. Mercedes still playing the same game since 2014.. "others are looking better"
i dont think it works like just copying….different cars have dirferent concepts. Maybe another car gets it working to its advantage
Damn you've really been killing it the past weeks with the car reveals and testing analysis. Explaining the technical stuff in a way I can follow and understand.
If you want to take it up a notch check out the channel “Chain Bear”
@@thegruffalo5383 I know! Chainbear is great too but he's hasn't made a lot of content on the new 2022 cars yet.
Too bad they didn't solve the being slow problem💀
The Mclaren went out when it was really wet (full wet tyres), this is why the vortex is so visible. By the time Mercedes and Red bull went out it was a lot dryer (intermediate tyres), so the vortex would have been less visible.
Good observation, I thought the same thing
I've also seen a pic of the Ferrari showing pretty much just as strong a vortex, only difference being that it starts slightly farther back.
@@wingracer1614 there's some red bull picks wich also show that vortex further back than McLaren.. the track was a lot dryer, so the vortex was less aparent.
That's an interesting point
while I still think McLaren has dealt with it better than others, Ferrari shows strong pressure from the floor like McLaren while with less vortexes. It is much easier to see that RB and Merc do not have such pressure. That said, unless the pics are taken on the same laps it is hard to compare properly.
They did !!? 😊 This aged well now 👍
I hope that McLaren is the sleeper team upset of the season. I was expecting Mercedes and RBR to be the 1st to get on top of it.
I wonder how much the other teams who hadn't factored this, will have to compromise to integrate some form is solution into their designs, or alternatively, just what it is, they're hiding.
They have most likely already solved this since those cars showcased were basically just that, showcase cars. For instance, with Ferraris day one floor they experienced little to no porpoising however when they switched the floor on day 2 is when they started experiencing severe porpoising.
Yeah, I mean obviously everyone was holding back, but they do look good. Im a cautiously optimistic fan, but goddamnit it would be amazing to see Danny Ric challenging for the WDC again and Lando winning his first couple of GPs, and it looks possible.
You also have to take into account that McLaren and Ferrari are the only teams that were around at the time of the original proposing isssue
Redbull is going to be behind, almost all development went into last years car and a lot of resources bringing on the Honda engine group into Red Bull.
Sleeper team? I think McLaren is going to be fighting at the front from the first race... they seem to have their car sorted the most, together with the Mercedes PU... they simply have to.
Really want a Ferrari x McLaren title battle, would be a sight to see...
Wish Danny Rick does well
Daniel needs to win Australia now its back on the schedule would be amazing
Id danny does well i reckon mclaren a constructors contenders.
@@Toxic-uj8pe oof
maybe next year?
This aged well....
As this season comes so close to start, I absolutely LOVE the fact that the teams have gone different ways and we can't really tell who's gonna be on top come Round 1 in Bahrain.
Hopefully we will have 4 teams fighting for the championship
Facts I see RB, Merc, Ferrari, & McLaren
McLaren have already said that they don’t think they will be championship contender just yet
Yea rb, merc, ferrari and haas
Bro merc is fast.. Fast
@@SureShotMarr Alpine will be up there
They don't have the porpoising effect because they didn't even have enough downforce for the problem to exist in the first place 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
I would love to see McLaren return to the top this year such a storied team and with their financial struggles recently would be huge for them.
Man, as a McLaren fan this makes me delighted to hear that we may have a chance to fight for the top 2 and not just P3 with Ferrari anymore but at the same time i don't want to get my hopes high only to see merc dominating like every year
there is still a lot of time for development before the season begins
This video didn't age too well.
I really hope this means Mclaren is strong this year, but I think porpoising will already be fixed in the big teams by Bahrain
Way too much is being made of this. Fixing it is easy. A minor setup tweak gets rid of it. The only problem is those tweaks will reduce mid and slow speed downforce so you need to run the car as close to the edge as you can. Go a little too far and it's bouncy bouncy time.
@@wingracer1614 By having their porpoising problems sorted, however, it means McLaren won't have to compromise as much on setup as other teams, so it is still potentially advantageous.
Hopefully though they will have to spend their resources on fixing it while McLaren can spend those resources and time taking the next step
Just copy the compeditor, like Mclaren and Ferrari tried to Brawn GP in 2009
@@Nefus1988 yes. Nijigasaki may also copy Brawn's technique.
If I recall correctly, the knowledge that McLaren have gained about ground effects stems from their collaboration with Arrow in IndyCar, which also utilizes ground effects.
Only problem with that theory is that Arrow/McLaren do not build that car. Dallara does.
@@wingracer1614 surely arrow/mclaren could study the car and what makes it an effective ground effect car
@@josephmallon9381 Compared to an F1 car, the Indycar is not effective. F1 makes WAY more downforce.
This makes Zak Brown a top 10 all time chess master genius
@@wingracer1614 they could still gain insight from running it though
They solved it by going so slooow!!
😂😂😂
Mclaren aero department seems to have done a great job at the moment
Imagine if all the cars are doing this down straights - “I can’t get close to overtake! He’s all over the place on porpoise!” as 20 cars bounce down the start/finish straight hilariously
Really looking forward to first race!
So mclaren had some secret huh? And the best vortexes huh? Riccardo out in Q1! 😂
This channel definitly deserves the bell. Never get dissapointed by the videos.
This video did not age well. 😬
Perhaps one of the most visually stunning indications of what's going on. Really liking this insight.
I hope for Mc Laren they got it right. But remember we likely haven’t seen the true potential of the 2022 cars. It could also be that they just have a floor that is generating less downforce than the other teams or a car that creates more drag than the opposition. In witch case they have a much bigger problem.
Vortex = downforce.
Stalled diffuser = no vortex = no downforce.
@@luisax86 no, that is much to simple. Vortex may help to create downforce, but it can also create drag resulting in a slower car. The bottoming out and stalling is the result of the generation of downforce. You can only reduce that effect with stiffer suspension, higher rideheight, sacrificing some downforce or a combination of the above. The teams are al searching for the best combination now. The likes of Mercedes and Mercedes will have found it come the last test day. I would really like it when Mc Laren will be on front next season, but in my eyes there is a risk that the Mc Laren turns out to have a floor that generates to little downforce when the cars are finally driven in full anger.
@@MartijnBC that vortex seals the floor better than having a lower ride height, generating the ground effect is very easy, so easy thats why it was banned originally because cars were going too fast at the time. none of the cars will have little downforce from ground effect. the issue is controlling it which mclaren clearly have.
The image showing the 4 different teams with the different spray caused by their aero is some of the best analysis out there. Virtual sealing of the floor, how ingenious. One of the best videos so far.
Agreed, excellent video and analysis.
This aged like milk
The bias with British drivers and constructors is amazing in this channel. They also said Aston Martin was looking great for this season 😭😂
love those technical videos! I just started getting into CFD and fluid dynamics in general this semester, and seeing how F1's engineers find seemingly tiny tweaks to have such a big impact on the aerodynamic performance is really interesting!
Bahrain result: McLaren 14th and 15th out of 17 finishers... this video didn't age well! :D
The aero parts on the car are so subtle yet genius in their own right. The cars look so much smoother and better. Reminds me of the early 90’s formula one cars. Clean and clever
Finally someone talking about this...been wondering how they pulled it off
This is really good new. Looking forward to when racing starts. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Hope McLaren have a storming season because they deserve it
This channel is easily one of the best to follow this preseason. Quality content, thanks for sharing!
This is the most badly aged story of 2022!
Thank you for these great videos!
great video! those wet shots really help show what’s happening
As my farher used to say -"reality is smaller"; turns out perfect rainbow vortexes are very pretty, but don't necessarily make a car fast.
I’m an American fan I’m one of the few that’s been a fan since I was 5 thanks to my dad. I’m currently 30 but I’ve always been a McLaren fan thanks to my dad so it’s so amazing to see them charging to the top again! We will take the bandwagon fans but lando is incredible, and Daniel was the perfect pick up. People constantly talk about Ferrari’s driver line up in all honesty if Daniel can get back to his normal form mclarens line up has to be close to the top
amazing video and explanations!
McLaren has beaten the 2022 regs and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
Brilliant video, very clearly explaining a complex issue. Bravo! And thanks!
This is honestly the best motorsport channel on youtube. Cant wait to go through the 2022 season with ye!
Very good video. Thanks. Teams will look at this for sure.
This is one of the best videos you've ever done, excellent content
This analysis is mind blow! Excellent video!!!
Very interesting and super clear images and visuals !
Love the content releasing lately. Subbed! 👊🏻
brilliant breakdown
great work, loved the comparison and details
Such a great insight video. Thanks a lot!
Crazy that anyone makes content this spectacular for free. Another amazing video!
Great content, thanks for posting!
One issue I see with your comparison is the pictures with the Red Bull and Mercedes the cars have inter's on and thus less water on track, thus less water to be caught on camera showing the air movement?!
This is excellent analysis. You detail the differences between cars so well. Other teams may tweek their own designs accordingly to minimise this difference however it won't be that simple. Aero is so so complex. Looking forward to more of your wonderful insights.
Best tech photography of test session, thank you kindly.
This really reminds me of the Renault R31 front-sidepod exhaust concept. With the low-profile tires putting increased emphasis on suspension kinematic control, combined with this stellar aero control McLaren is looking like they've gotten a jump on the field...Lando and Daniel have a real weapon this year. Cue it up!
Cool actually seeing how the aerodynamics work irl in the rain
Brilliant insight, much appreciated.
Now this was a great video! Love the breakdown
The effort to break down those aerodynamics from normal shots. The Race, you guys are amazing. Huge Respect!
You lot are so good when it comes to pre-season! Also, maybe they’ve got on top of the porpoising issue due to having an Indycar team that’s had to deal with ground effect cars for a long time? Just an interesting thought since no other F1 team has an Indycar team from what I recall.
I like how the inverted McLaren has almost the exact same colours but reversed, looks cool!
Complementary colors are quite common in design
Thats what inverted means
You guys are amazing for videos like this...BEST IN THE BUSINESS
Remember McLaren have an indy car team so I wonder if they've relayed info as Indy car are also ground effect since 2018
Very good point that , also lots of knowledge from when ground effect was previously used in F1.
HAHAHAHA (what a yoke!)
Love the videos and podcasts, interesting and informative
Absolutely brilliant video.
those inverted wet aero pics are sick. never knew it had that effect and I have a masters in motorsport engineering
To bad they took credit for something they didn't do...
@@PointBlank65 who cares its still cool
New F1 fan here (thank you D2S), been binging all YT content on F1 and really excited to see what McLaren do this year. Definitely going to support Riccardio and Norris. Also impressed by Zak browns long term strategic thinking to get the team back in the competition!
very good work on the illustrations in this one
Been waiting 9 years for a mclaren 1-2 opener
by the end of the bahrain test at least merc & rb will also have it solved, mclaren domination is still a ways to go mate
Keep waiting, Mercedes 1-2
Awesome video, thanks
Artwork with Air. Amazing
This is outstanding analysis and explanation, thank you
Wow, you guys just go from strength to strength, what an awesome bit of analysis!
Super video, McLaren's vortices looked amazing!
"Troubling Oscillations" was also the name of my high school band.
Geat content, thanks for inputs...top notch.Would be cool to ear thsi about Moto GP... Keep it up.
An unintended consequence of these highly sensitive floors is that there’s going to be some seriously wounded cars after 1st lap incidents where the skirts are damaged and they lose a truck load of downforce for the remainder of the race. Could make for some interesting races…😏
Yeah look at how bad cars with floor damage used to be and multiply that by 5 or so.
@@wingracer1614 exactly!!
It will be like loosing a wing... But I mean loosing the bargeboards on 2021 cars were terrible too
Unless you ban all aero elements off the edges of the car, this is going to be inevitable.
isn't that just the nature of single seaters? to be sensitive to damage therefor encouraging skillful racing?
Great video!
Quality. Great job.
I absolutely can’t wait for this new season. I was kinda in the middle about the looks of car compared to last season but seeing them in action/ testing i love these new cars and how they look driving
Really fascinating video. Will be very interested to see how all the teams develop their solutions to combat this problem, including how McLaren further develop this idea.
Fantastic explanation 🤘
Fascinating stuff. It’s a shame that F1 themselves don’t analyse the cars like this in their media packages. You guys are doing a top job! 🤙
Looking at those inverted color photos. It looks like and I truly hope Daniel and Lando have a fantastic year this year!!!
Thank you Thank you Thank you for the explanation and image at 2:36. So perfect. Hopefully will continue to see super cool stuff like this. So excited for the new season! Even Lewis thinks Lando is a great driver.
Don't look super far into it, other than Ferrari. McLaren and Ferrari were both on wets, meaning more water in the air and on the track. The comparison is relatively useless for the Redbull/Merc.
I just hope this year we have a more even playing field and cars that can pass.
Those comparison pics at 5:09 are some of the best I’ve ever seen of an F1 car
Thanks. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
Mclaren versus ferrari would be freaking amazing this year
This aged well lol, you can't porpoise if you can't get down force.
McLaren rn: (☞ಥ‿ಥ)☞
This is why i love the race, the way things are explained and shown where possible
2:04..….Wow, what a photograph! 😍
Would love to see Lando do well in 2022
The evolution of the high v low rake, high v low ride height, with high rake allowing for more air under the car hence working the diffuser more but creating more drag with the floor, with the venturi tunnels, high ride height does allow for more air but is create a larger gap between the floor and tarmac to be sealed, thus air skirts are essentials, with how well merc adapted to sealing the floor with air skirts last season, you'd think they'd have been on top of thus but this is just the pre pre season test so hopefully they already have something in the works for this, good job Mclaren, really have grown since the rude awaken with the switch to Renault pu
GREAT big thanks....I was thinking the teams probably had some really hy tech floor designs probably just making things more frustrating if they don't get it sorta an working right....I can't believe the porpoise issue would have been well predicted an sorta long before cars hit the race tracks being its a tendency u said.....I was a fan back in 1980....85 to 90 yes...but not 80....thanks again
Awesome job team, you guys rock!
The first thing I thought of when I saw the Marc, RB and Ferrarri floor detailing at the back was, that they are hiding som tricks for Bahrain or maybe waiting for development…
Very interesting video… now we beed to invent cameras that can see air as it is 😉
Very well done video. Scarb, please pay close attention on how to illustrate your explanations.
Stiffen the springs so simple to fix not increasing the ride height!