Run ANY OS on iPad or iPhone!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2020
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‘That’s pretty slow, not the speed of a usable device’. Me: looks at my laptop I use everyday. Me: it’s sort of fine...
I understand you, I had a Lenovo from 2010 that the keyboard, battery and screen didn't work and the HD was dying I used it until months ago when I switched to a new lenovo
oh yes the noise he made was like an plane and he was extremely slow i had to use windows xp for him to have a little more performance
No, upgrade.
WellBeSerious12 What if they don’t have enough money to upgrade or don’t need a fast pc?
Will it ever run a 64bit win 10? Doubt it an x86 has trouble enough emulating arm properly and it can do it reasonably fast but go the other way around and it's really difficult
"Run ANY OS"
Runs XP
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 this is useless because iOS is better than Aindroid
There is not any other os worth it
@@loveiphones4550 ?
@@RodrigoVzq yes no os is perfect!
@@loveiphones4550 no even ios is not perfect same for android no os is perfect
When the covid quarantine started in my country, nostalgia took over me and I felt the need to play counter strike 1.6 online. So I made some video calls with my old school friends to invite them to play.
I installed on my macbook pro, a virtual pc with windows xp, also CS 1.6 and Hamachi (a LAN emulator on devices connected by WAN) and this way I could play with my friends via internet and remember old times of vices in the cybercafe.
I spent days testing multiple programs to create virtual machines, and many windows and CS installations that are stable. Parallels was the ultimate solution.
Your joy in the video testing old systems mounted on modern devices made me remember that happiness of playing again with my friends at a distance. Greetings from Argentina!
1.6 days with friends are memories i will always look back on fondly some of those friends aint around anymore sadly but the memories and fun we had ill forever remember.
I like the Enthusiasm of this guy with Apple products and how he always find hidden cool tricks to do with them
Which is very difficult actually
I too commend him especially when they epically fail in the process.
Me too
I feel like a lot of Macintosh users have love/hate relationship towards Apple and the only reason we are still on Mac is out of spite.
Like. "Oh Apple, you are trying to prevent me from doing this specific thing I want. Well, I will do it anyway. Watch me".
I love MacOSX, I don't like Apple. I don't think that is really unusual in Macintosh community.
when a verified you tuber comes:
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“Run any os”
I’ll run iPad os on my iPad
I’m watching this on IPad os
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_the floor here is made out of floor_
Prithviraj Das lol
@@user-vf1pt2rv8j recursive VM torture
"Run any os on iPad or iPhone"
Estimated battery life left: 15 minutes
u dont need stove though,
Honestly I tried running Windows 10 with the app mentioned in the video, the battery life was really great definitely over a few hours with battery.
Darren Wang really cool
Darren Wang did it run smoothly?
Aren't we funny
The weird thing happening in half life with the mouse is due to the lack of pointer capture/relative pointer movement in the ipados apis. See it as if the pointer is glued to the center of the screen by a soft glue, any movement in any direction will be captured, but when the movement stops, the pointer returns to the centre of the screen. If the game expects that "glue" to be there, but it isn't, it'll just rotate the camera forever in the direction the mouse pointer is located on the screen relative to the centre where it was supposed to return. Hope this makes sense.
Please do a follow up with the M1 iPads when you receive them!
With 16 gigs of ram in the 1 and 2 terabyte iPad you could potentially run Mac OS big sur with 4 gigs of ram without over going the 25% barrier and if you have the 2 tb one you could make an modernly sized 1tb disk. And with how ridiculously fast they are, you might just be able to run it close to the performance of the oldest Macs that can run big sur.
Yeah try windows 10 on it
@@davinprasetyo395 windows 10 for ARM could potentially run really well. (As good as windows 10 for ARM is anyway…)
I bet some apple engineer is currently working on cock blocking this in their authentication as I type this.
You get an error message stating that "Your version of iOS does not support running virtual machines". (This is with the current version of iOS).
Snazz: *Running Android 4.0 on an Ipad*
Apple: wait, that's illegal
ILLLLEGALLL
Quinn: “For legal reasons that’s a joke”
“I run a large business of over 500 employees”
“Also I’m retired”
Yes
Yeah
Yep
YAS
yes
These videos are a service.. It makes me realise that things I think would be fun to do.. are really only fun to watch someone else do.
Amen to that!
This applies to virtually almost every extracurricular activity you can think of. Even when you look at somebody gardening or baking something delicious and then you try to do it yourself and you realize that unless you do it for 5-10 years it’s going to suck/not worth the hassle. Or even if you’re an expert right away the amount of work needed it’s not worth the reward even though it looked like it when you were watching somebody do it.
The problem with the mouse is a current issue regarding touchscreen. When creating a first person 3D game, the cursor is warped to the center of the screen and the motion is based on the distance from the center each frame. However, a touchscreen cannot warp the mouse position, because the user presses the screen to activate it.
Brilliant. I love these sort of hyper-specific videos looking into a fun little corner of tech, and you deliver them excellently
If memory is very tight, keep in mind that 32-bit applications and OSes use a *lot* less memory (both storage and RAM) than 64 bit. I bet this is half the reason you got XP running pretty well.
I'm actually impressed that x86 emulation runs that well. Always go native architecture if you can. Would love to see ARM Windows running with this.
That would be neat, but there is a big issue, you're using Windows on ARM.
well yeah, 32 bit systems can only have up to about 4 gigs of ram, so their applications would of course have to be designed to use a conservative amount so that the actual OS can run
@@HearMeLearn This isn't quite right. PAE means that only individual applications are limited to 4GB. The reason 64 bit uses more storage and RAM is that pointers and registers are larger. Basically it uses/wastes more space when storing things.
BTW, big fan, watch TTL all the time! ;-)
@@beauregardslim1914 You know that's npt linus right?
@@jordanturner97 he is sinus
You gotta redo this video with the 16gb m1 ipad pro this time. Please man.
Yes
You have to jailbreak the newer iPads, I believe this was killed when they switched to iPad OS 14 and many of the game emulators stopped working with 14.4. I recently installed this on my M1 and got a notification that it would not work without jail breaking and I could not get anything to launch. Super disappointed.
iOS apps have a hard cap of 5gb RAM anyway, you can't use more than that.
@@LazyPCRehab There are workarounds for that, for example there is a "slow edition" called UTM SE that, well, runs VMs slower but perhaps still be usable on an M1 iPad, or there is also a solution that involves a second device to actively give JIT permissions to UTM (regardless of jb status) called Jitterbug, its on the Reddit Jailbreak forum.
@@SD-xl2lb SE wouldn't boot the VM for me.
I use QEMU to emulate PPC macOS 9.2, 10.0, and 10.3 on my desktop. It seems very familiar to the command line setup, but it uses a GUI to set up. I used the mac99 option too!
The mouse issues in Half Life are because the mouse appears to be using absolute mouse input vs relative mouse input. In other words, absolute gives exact coordinates of where the cursor is on the screen, vs relative (which is what you want for games) just gives the difference in the cursor position, i.e. +1 up, +1 right etc. There might be a way to correct that in UTM, but it's an issue in RDP as well.
I have the same problem trying to play Daggerfall in iDOS
20:57 Could've just clicked Continue again.
I WAS UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE LOL
This ^
@@snazzy We all get it, Apple does the whole "we're going to highlight the button for the action we want the user to take."
Can't count how many times I've been in one these popup loops because I wasn't focusing on the text
@@Skandha_ I think the back button has always been blue in every macOS pop-up.
a min and half in and SUBD great quality production man
I almost had decided it was a clickbait/Remote Desktop. But still chose to click, it is the first time it was actually something!! May be I try it or don’t but thumbs for giving something real. Man you after all, booted Windows on an iPad!! 🔥
11:07 Hey Quinn could you tell Nate Wixom from the COD CREW that we said "sup" back 😌
He says hi. 😉
@@snazzy what a gentleman indeed 😳
I think it is appropriate to throw in the line: "Oh hi Mark!"
Honestly never expected seeing Windows XP on an iPad Pro
@Hand Grabbing Fruits how do you think did he get verified?
I saw one running Windows 95 on an Apple Watch. :-)
I actually ran a Windows XP VM on my iPad mini 2 a few years back with a VM app from cydia (don’t remember its name). Surprisingly worked really well
ever seen an apple watch run windows?
@@justanobody2347 oh wow i remember that
I plated with the Android emulator for a while which was based on qemu. It was DOG slow. but if you run in on KVM it is fine. qemu usually has a version for kvm. It uses kernel level virtualizations.
what amazes me the most is that such an old version of mac os looks as clean as ever and i could easily imagine it next to a modern os design wise. Ubuntu 14 main gnome theme deffinetely took some "inspiration" from there, at least that is the first linux distro i used and what that design remind me of.
i think people that prefer mac os prefer it because it just feels and looks better, because that is the reason i prefer gnome compared to the windows 10 launcher (no you cannot use it on windows i wish). if they ever get to a reasonable price where i live i might grab one.
Maybe the second gen of the arm macbooks. that transition and what might mean for battery life on a laptop has me hyped. i wish major manufacturers of laptop partner with somone like canical to create a arm based linux machine that is actually refined.
21:45 You know you could’ve just hit Command + Q to skip all of this.
yeah but this is cool too
That's pretty awful user experience for new users
David Shlemayev he’s been using macs for a long time. I think he should know better. That’s my opinion though.
@@ORIOLESFan02 modifier keys are probably not taken by the VM, so hitting command + q might just result in closing the app in the host system. Just my guess.
Bill Z. That’s not true. I have an iPad with a keyboard case and when I hit Command + Q, it doesn’t force close the app on my iPad
Nice one Quinn, this looks like so much fun. On a side note I'm always amazed at how much effort and work goes into something that is just not gonna see a wide user base.
Watching this on 2008 Macbook. Modbook is a cool idea from back in the day. Never heard of alt-store until now (5 yr android user)
I have touchscreen fully working from my MacBook Pro using a dell p2418ht monitor and touch base drivers. Multitouch gestures working also, 5 fingers to swipe through desktops etc. will make a video to detail
huge props to quinn for his work the amount of research . He must have done to pull this off and i liked the funny elements like the colour of this shirt changing but this was very unique and informative and fun videos about iOS and mac . One of the most underrated tech RUclips Hope you keep on doing such fun creative video
Thanks, my dude!!
@@snazzy tryed Linux/ubuntu on virtual machine on ipad? i think some steam games(for example kof97, kof2003, garou, kof13, dead cells) can be run/playable. on steam proton.
Half Life running was the coolest thing Ive seen in a long while.
You addressed interesting features especially the UI being workable for MacOS with touchscreen.
Currently the best solutions for 2-in-1 are fundamentally SPLITTING FUNCTIONS of tablet and laptop:
1. Native is not possible due to boot-loader locking ie dual-boot is not an option.
2. UTM / iSH is about as close proximation (to date before alt stores launch more openly) to VM so again not 'full solution' though it's possible as above. Offical App Store legislation is against emulation software as main obstacle. This might change in the future with Alt stores as said.
3. Remote Desktop is probably the optimal solution but requires multiple hardware work-around eg desktop/laptop/pi at home to network into and use. Still a very powerful option for solving the 2-in-1 device on Apple products problem and successfully too. Man Mini with iPad seems the perfect combination for cost. Again multiple software solutions exist some of the best seem to be: Screens, Duet, RealVNC to investigate.
4. Cloud PC: Very flexible but costly at present eg MacOS, Win11, Linux (any distro) possible using a variety of solutions.
Could you revisit this on the M1 iPad Pro with 16 GB Ram. I would love to see how it would run now that Mac OS supports ARM architecture.
21:48 "What explains what I do? I'm retired" That made me crack up lololol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't tell which is more impressive
The fact he's running Windows on iPad OS, or the fact he's running XP with a 15 GB storage volume
XP is only1.5 Gigs, you could install it on a 4 Gig volume.
15gb is plenty for XP dude
I love your Grand Seiko. Stunning Watch!
The fact you got most of these OS running on a iPad is impressive ❤️
"you certainly couldn't do audio or video production over remote desktop"
I worked in a design agency that had such awful computers that I used to do most work remotely in my computer at home
What an absolute legend
i love the way you could clearly see how much fun quinn was having when he started half-life
Wow that was a great video. thanks!! Ive got the new iPad air but I don't think I'll do this any time soon. 4gb of ram is very little
Fun fact: If you have iOS 14-15.1.1 on an M1 iPad, you can use Trollstore to run Windows 10 ARM as an actual virtual machine with good performance (Trollstore lets you get hypervisor access through arbitrary entitlements)
Your quality of content has been great recently and on top of that increasingly clear, keep this up really liking it.
Just WHY do you need a computer to do this??? I Want to do this because I HAVE no computer.
I think you should re-do this with the M1 iPad Pro with 16GB RAM. I think that would make for an incredible video. Please try macOS (Big Sur! Native ARM) and also Windows ARM on it (see my previous comment). I think the M1 iPad Pro would have a much better time even emulating x86 because of the M1, but I'd like to see ARM versions as well
This
You’re expecting them to do something that’s not mediocre? These guys are 1m sub channel. What you’re saying is actually doing it the right way but you can’t expect that out of such a big channel.
If you hackmac the M1 iPad and run Logic on it, my dreams will come true
The M1 iPad Pro have 16GB ram?
@@asianflex the 1tb and 2tb models do.
Running Windows on an IPan is really Snazzy!
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 this is useless because iOS is better than Aindroid
Love iPhone's if you reply to me can you please use more emojis?
@@loveiphones4550 As an apple user, I'm offended you exist
get off your high horse
@@NonsensicalSpudz 🤡🤡🤡 Scam aindroid Spy You don't really use Apple 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@loveiphones4550 aindroid?
in half life, try turning on raw mouse input, on old valve games (pre source) this is a problem. you can also adjust the resolution. (assuming pressing esc doesn't exit the program.)
The input lag is most likely caused by the software being too slow to track movement and emulate it in the VM in real-time
“Ok! MacOS is-“
*Smoke starts coming out of iPad Pro*
if that would have happened to me i wouldve died of a heart attack before any chips in the ipad get fried
@@x3dwany371 yummy fried chips well its not edible :((((
@@janiceispog he means internal chips
That moment when Mac OS was asking for your address and you didn't bother to read the non default option to continue reminded me of my grandparents lol
I was screaming “Just hit continue!”.
"you would never use editing software on a remote desktop, gross."
"So here I'm going to use a maximum of 2GB of RAM"
One of these is more limiting than the other...
I would go with the 2 GB RAM option since I literally used to edit videos on 1.5 GB RAM
But that would require a MacBook
Premiere cs2 works fine with 2gb ram sooooo.... yeah no to Remote Desktop
i’ve done it before and i gotta way it isn’t that bad.
yeah, but windows xp doesn’t even need 2
16:38 you just have to lower the mouse sensitivity in the game settings. Modern mice have a much higher DPI settings and make the mice move faster for less distance in order to get accross high res screens. This game was meant for mice at sub 2000dpi
Or it's because the mouse isn't locked to the VM. The game locks the mouse cursor to the middle of the screen but because the mouse isn't locked to the VM the cursor will still move. It's a bit similar to having really high dpi but it can't be fixed by adjusting it because the mouse movement isn't what the game expects
I'm just impressed that Half-Life even works on XP and other NT operating systems as well as it does.
it's QEMU's USB tablet (it's mouse)
Great video, even a year later.
But that brings up the question: how would it go with the new M1 iPad Pro with 16GB of RAM?
(I guess that the VM still could only use 5GB of memory, but that would be better than 2GB)
2050: Today we will play gta v on my $100 phone
Comrade Mapping
I bet this will be possible in 10 years
@@k4rim799 GTA V came out on the ps3 and 360, which were 2 gens ago at this point, so theoretically any good phone from the last few years could run it if it was ported with the same requirements as the ps3 and 360 versions
@@queenbiscuit311 If the game is imported...I will buy a iphone 12 to run it🤣
@@queenbiscuit311 that is incorrect, the arm architecture in phones can never support such a demanding game unless they add a good dedicated gpu and proper cooling system.
@@evenstevensteven cooling system yes, phones already _have_ dedicated GPUs. Most good, newish phone processors are more capable than ps3 and xbox 360s, and even the Nintendo switch. It’s not surprising, that’s hardware from 2005 by now. If GTA can run on an Xbox 360, it can run on a significantly more capable phone. The oculus quest is more powerful than a switch, which is significantly more powerful than a wii u, which is significantly more powerful than last gen consoles. Thats running on a three year old snapdragon 835. The samsung xr2 chips in newer mobile AR and VR devices are even more powerful, and they’re just glorified 865s.
On the same screen where you selected the amount of RAM to allocate, there was an option to allocate CPU cores. I'm not sure if it would allow to dedicate more than 1 CPU core to the Virtual Machine
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‘“‘I can tap that no problem” - Quinn Nelson” - Danny Winget” - Hand Grabbing Fruits
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I don't even like Apple products, but I like how you do your videos enough to keep clicking on them!
ONE can run mac OS on the iPad if someone with the new apple DTK ports it (decompile/recompile). It would probably have to be installed in DFU mode. Drivers and a few core apps would have to be extracted from iOS and combined with the decompiled apple DTK OS to enable all the hardware support/acceleration. thanks to side car there is already graphics drivers/pen support for the iPad in mac os.
Ok, wow, this video is really interesting. Not only it shows how amazing it would be to run a full fledged OS such as MacOS on something the size of an iPad, but it also shows that there is a “community” of people actually interested in something like this.
Personally, as a musician, I am able to do everything on my iPad, which I originally bought “just” to read sheet music, and then discovered that it was a fully capable machine that could almost replace my laptop entirely. Sadly, it can’t do that yet because there just isn’t a good enough app for music writing on iPadOS (something like Finale or even Musescore), and that’s the ONLY reason I’m still rocking my old 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro, which is plenty fast enough now that I’ve upgraded it with a modern SSD an 16 GBs of RAM.
But let me tell you: the MOMENT Apple releases either some kind of Mac with a touch screen, or MacOS for the iPad... count me in!
Awesome video as alwas Quinn, keep up the outstanding work!
Well I use Presonus Notion for IPad for score writing and although it’s most recent update was awkward it still makes good scores and I’ve written symphonies,concertos all sorts on mine over the past few years.
Thanks for the content, not to much channels go this all out on the geekiness when it comes to Apple.
It was fun going down memory lane and seeing the version of macos I started on back in school.
Also, side thought, but apple has already sort of made it possible to install different oses on the ipad with the beta and dev channel ios updates. They could just add an option to install macos instead of ipad os. Easy peasy
7:22 could've mentioned how for JB users there's tweaks that do make JetSam less aggressive: you can have an app use way more Ram, but the risk is ios crashing.
If you really want to go all-in on iPad modding you could (in theory, with the right hardware) replace the memory modules inside the iPad. They aren't SODIMM, or any kind of headered interface but ball grid array, or BGA and for a lot of people that's a _massive_ dealbreaker but if you can chuck those chips in and make sure all solder points are firmly affixed without bridging then the system should be able to see the memory, thus giving you more than what you started off with. Saving the OEM chips means then you can make back some of the money spent by selling confirmed OEM hardware.
You would also reprogram the EEPROM or it won't boot
20:58 Those activation servers ARE still online, Leopard just sees your install as iffy as if it were an early hackintosh so some features like that just won't work if you're not on real hardware. Apple is VERY good at keeping their legacy updates and servers online.
Woah that’s cool
I updated macOS x tiger in 2021, i can tell their good at running their old stuff well
It’s more likely Mac apps for Apple Silicon will come to the App Store and not run full macOS. Or maybe just Catalyst apps will be pushed as the preferred app for iPad/Mac apps.
Finally someone who actually covered wtf I been tryna do
This is actually AMAZING so psyched to get Linux and try some other random crap
Yeah it is, I'm not an iPad user but I've been using similar apps for Android for a while.
I can see it now
"Apple execs HATE this INCREDIBLE hack!"
Quinn the Doug of apple product always finding quarks and features!
Ok so basically, games will, after reading the cursor position, reset the cursor to the center of the screen. However (I know this from TeamViewer), when the mouse stays where it is when the game tells it to move to the center, the game just thinks on every mouse move that you've moved the mouse as far as before + the amount you've actually moved it now. This it what causes the game to go crazy, because it receives wrong mouse values.
*You describe the virtual machine thing*
"Oh, now I want an iPad"
*You describe how AltStore actually works, and how you have to pay Apple to game their system as long as they decide to let you do it*
"Oh, now I don't want an iPad anymore, also I want to burn Apple's Headquarters"
I mean tbf I use alt store to use RUclips vanced on my Ipad works fine, just have to connect it the the same wifi as my laptop every week.
Altstore is free though
@@pumpkin_314 But not having to renew it every week costs money.
Stylus is primary touch input for Hackbook
Steve Jobs: *Furious
Steve Jobs: Dead :(
Hope you reply to this. What do you think about running Win7 or 10 on the new IPP with the 16gb RAM? Feasible enough to make it a laptop replacement?
I wonder how this will work if they can make a VM of Big Sur which was made to run on ARM macs and made to accommodate the same kind of SoC the iPad Pro is running. Will probably be even better when we get an iPad Pro with an A14X which should be nearly identical to the M1 on actual Macs
I managed to barely run windows 7 starter edition on an iPad mini 5th gen
It works but barely
C M why not
Quarantine boredom makes stuff like that entertaining
That’s ok. My old actual laptop could barely run windows vista
I have an iPad Mini 5 also best and newest OS can run on this iPad kinda smoothly is Windows XP it works really good for me
How much ram did you get working
Lucas Zhu VM ofc
I don’t think it’s possible to run natively on a hardware level
I believe the issue with the mouse on half life is the mouse input for some reason is emulating the touchscreen input which is then emulating a mouse input. The weird camera movement is exactly what happens when I play an fps on my laptop and touch the touchscreen.
no its just the high sens that mouse and trackpad have, they are meant to run on 2000x2000more or less pxels and im shure halflife is running on 640x480 its just like trying to move the mouse in a little angle of your screen almost the same size of your cursor... so I suggest to put the lowest sens possible on the mouse and maybe it could be a bit playable..
@@maximiacovacci that makes no sense, and if that was an issue, it would be a problem on the desktop as well.
The issue is that the mouse isn't being captured, directly, it's being moved relatively by the emulator and the game doesn't know how to handle it
4:35 thank you for explaining all of this.
yeah.. do a follow up with the M1 IPAD pro.. and yeah a windows 10 arm install would be cool to see !! Great video though!
Exactly my first thought is UTM. Though the emulator isn’t highly optimise I suggest running arm linux.
Microsoft: make tablet based on windows xp
The tablet: crap
Apple: "Let's make the one that does not crap
iPad: *imma turn to xp*
Apple:NOOOOOOOO
@@walker4541 ruined the jokr
If qemu supports virtualization on arm processors and you install a arm version of linux, in theory you can get a native performance
For those who don't know cydia impactor is also a tool like alt store for windows, I used it a long time ago but don't know how well it works now
Hey, I wanted to see how that Debian goes! At least it's ARM so even if there's no hypervisor it should be faster, right?
Unfortunately Apple's ARM chips in iPads don't support hardware virtualization so even when running ARM code it's not running natively like a normal app would. Everything has to go through an application layer (which is why even ARM stuff will be slow)
@@bpfuels even if it's not native it will be probably be much faster than windows and macos
The production quality on this video is amazing! What are you doing differently?
(not that it wasn't before...)
We pulled the cam off the tripod and went handheld with a lavalier mic to make it a little more personal! :D
Snazzy Labs I think it’s also the lighting and change of scenery. On point 👌
Have you tried NoMachine? It's a cross-platform remote desktop solution for Linux/Win & Mac. I can watch videos on it rather pleasantly and it can display 3D pretty well too. If it wasn't for a few quirks I could easily game on it.
I love how "you certainly couldn't do audio or video work over remote desktop" ended up becoming a thing you can actually do with technology like parsec and moonlight game streaming
This was very cool and entertaining to watch! I'll like to see an arm64 Linux VM performance compared to a laptop or a raspberry pi, it'll make a good video and a good insight to future arm virtualization
Apple watching this:
Interesting.
Awesome Work!!!! testing fun!
In half-life the view turned like crazy. I have the same problem with MCPE on my Android x86 VM. And I know the problem:
The game expects the mouse cursor to jump to the center of its screen when it tells it to but the VM program doesn't fully do that thing, so when you move the mouse and it's away from the center it moves away from the center continuously in the program but inside the VM it stays in the middle. That creates this interesting bug.
You could install Windows XP tablet PC edition so you can use touch support
Running Mac Os X on an iPad is technically in accordance with the Mac Os X terms of service, because it's Apple hardware. (It says you must run it on Apple hardware).
Jacob Martin But running the émulation software is not
@@malikkelly The terms of service says it has to be on Apple hardware. It doesn't say emulation would invalidate it. In fact Apple supports emulation software like parallels for emulating Mac Os X.
@@JakeSDN sorry but Apple simply won't allow macos vms. If that was the case, mac cloud would be so much more convenient and cheaper
@@shiskeyoffles I am not saying they will allow it on not Apple hardware, I am just saying it is technically within terms of service.
@@shiskeyoffles maybe they don’t “allow Mac vms” on non apple hardware however Jacob Is correct running Mac OS on the iPad doesn’t violate tos
By choosing to emulate an old, slow PowerPC CPU, you artificially limited the performance of MacOS within the VM. Try it again using the fastest x86 virtual CPU if you really want to determine/compare usability and responsiveness.
It was very cool to see that this can be done, although I would have liked to see fumbling around with trial and error, well thought out demo configurations - and better test cases.
I’m also curious as to what your networking options are within the virtual OS. Could Windows XP receive an IP from my DHCP server or is it limited to a host-only network with the iPad itself?
This will be an excellent video to revisit with the M1 iPad!
I would've loved to see Debian run. You teased us with it being on the UTM menu and all!
Felipe Flores exactly and also the only OS that can run just fine on 2gb of ram lol
It’s not Debian, but “iSH Shell” can be found in the App Store. It emulates x86_64 Alpine, and to be permitted in the App Store it has a limited package manager, but the full alpine repo can be added (the project’s website explains more)
"I have this strange feeling that Android was never intended to run on an iPad..." un-huh
But why Android x86? Sounds like Sheeple reaction. I use iPad iPhone iMac myself, but this smells very Appletardish. Why not Android ARM native?
@@franzlyonheart4362 I think it's because the software is designed to emulate x86 hardware. If you tried to run Android on a windows computer, your only options are either an Android emulator as an application on top of the core OS, or Android x86, which is redesigned to work natively on the hardware. This is a lot of guesswork on my part, but that's my understanding of it
@@julianlee4227 No you can select the environment. In the end he also settled for Mac OSX on a Power PC Plattform.
Please create a video "Run any operating system on your iPad or iPhone" part 2, with the new iPad Pro with M1.
UTM is now on the M1 Mac for virtualisation, a qemu frontend, very polished and intuitive.
How bout the m1 ipad ?
This is actually pretty useful for my as I am a coder so running vscode on ipad will be so damn cool
except you cant. vscode cant run on XP or any old OS for that matter. Your best bet is an Android. You can run ubuntu / debian and install vscode on it.
@@yokowasis or you could install ubuntu on the ipad
Xubuntu is probably your best bet in that scenario
@@yokowasis Windows 7 would run in theory, but really slow
Arch is running extremely well. I didn't get into it cause the video was long and we thought it a bit too nerdy but that's an option!
MacOS on the 'Not a Computer' HELL YES
Would like to see this again with the m1 iPad running iOS 15 and more usable memory.
I would love to see a video on the Axiotron Modbook, I remember those being used in Stargate Atlantis
The Modbook was primarily meant for artists who wanted a mobile option for their Mac+Cintiq workflow; for the time it was pretty amazing.