Yeah, the game's completely different without them. While it was a big hit in the day, perhaps not big enough to justify it's own machine lay out (which would be pretty much useless for most other games).
I think the defender will definately be clearanced faster than the rest. I have the rampage cab 125 Craigslist pickup new in box. Its hard to play defender on that cab.
Nowadays they can see preorder numbers and decide what might sell in stores from that. Im sure walmart has an algorithm for what theyll order. If its in stores for xmas definate clearance chance. Online only purchase less chance for a deal.
The Galaga cab needs to have Galaga 88 and Gaplus. I know they're just using the same board they used on the Pac-Man cab, but it's senseless to buy a Galaga cab with 6 versions of Pac-Man and Just Galaga and Galaxian.
You are correct about Defender when I first saw it I was Like "Yes going to get it" ... A day later Im like "love Defender but I dont Know if I want to pay that Price" we will see as date gets closer. Thanks for the update Thumbs up
Thank you BP, as always. I suppose I'd rather have the DEFENDER skin then the MK version, if for no other reason then I'd want a wi-fi version similar to Big Blue. Putting PAPERBOY on this cab, as opposed to STARGATE or some other more appropriate game weird though....
Every time I see a new A1up cab, I look at the games and realize I already have them on my Legends with better controls, so the only reason to buy the A1up cabs would be to have the physical cabinet with the art. So, I just can’t justify the purchase.
Peter, I'd actually argue it's the best setup for most games - side scrollers, fighting games, sports - all work best w/8 way set ups. About the only game that really suffers is PAC-MAN and the like. And of course, it's pretty easy to switch out a 8 way setup with a 4 way (or even 2 way): www.amazon.com/Hztyyier-1-Player-Buttons-Joystick-Controller/dp/B07XTF7GQD/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=4+way+directional+joystick+controller&qid=1630858507&sr=8-2
Lol! They are just in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode now. They are simply wanting to sell to a new batch of takers who were not at all in on the "1UP" $200 craze of two years ago. Its all about the next ones.. They could care less about those who already have a roomful of these things as they can only get them to rebuy the same cab with the same games in a new skin just so many times.
I hate fighters like mortal Kombat, what a shame that they didn't put Robotron, Stargate and Sinistar on there instead of those stupid fighters. "I HUNGER!"
I like the galaga cab, but it comes with the same games as pac man. Was thinking to get this and then add other games, keeping galaga for more variety. Pac man, galaga, and defender all look very nice. There is a seller on ebay that you ship your pcb to, and they put on there the games you request and then send it back. BECAUSE NO ARCADE IS COMPLETE WITHOUT ROBOTRON.
I love Defender, but that control panel layout isn't even close to the real thing. It would have to be a pass for me. The Galaga cab at least looks really good, though.
As far as the Galaga 40th anniversary, I'm just going to wait for the Class of 81 cab because I already have all the pacman games. LoL. The class of 81 has a better list of games on it with some I dont have. So hopefully A1up will hurry up and release the Class of 81. Why release a Galaga 40th with almost all Pacman games already released on like 100 cabs when we are still waiting for Class of 81 that at least has a differant variety of games we want.
I guess most of the included games are Bally/Midway games, but if the outside cabinet is dressed up as a Defender machine the marquee should say Williams Defender not Midway.
I'm kind of pissed off I bought the Mortal Combat legacy cab. Had I knew or had any kind of warning that A1up was planning on releasing a Defender cab with same games inwould of waited and got that one instead.
It would be nice for fans of their products (crazy idea, I know), if they released a yearly roadmap of their games. Car companies, camera manufacturers, computer makers all do so for gear far more expensive than these games.
To be fair, it's a totally different control configuration - DEFENDER has a unique set of buttons, while ROBOTRON uses 2 joysticks in the original arcade. Completely different setups, and neither of which is terribly friendly to other games....
Is $450 too much for a DEFENDER Legacy cab?
A bit but I will buy it. Too bad they are not fixing the issues with the MK legacy cab
All they need to is add online before release then I see added value
Those "wings" will poke your eye out JDV.😋
@@canadaphil6068 only if your stupid and don't fix it. Seriously the wings are least of your problems
MY EYES! :)
the more and more i heard about Arcade1up the more i gain interest in Atgames and Irrcade
Kinda hard not too, ain't it?
The MVSX is the premium product
It would be nice to have dedicated cab for Paperboy with handle bars or dedicated defender.
Yeah, the game's completely different without them. While it was a big hit in the day, perhaps not big enough to justify it's own machine lay out (which would be pretty much useless for most other games).
I think the defender will definately be clearanced faster than the rest. I have the rampage cab 125 Craigslist pickup new in box. Its hard to play defender on that cab.
Depends on the number A1up puts out. From what I understand, they make much smaller batches then in years past.
Nowadays they can see preorder numbers and decide what might sell in stores from that. Im sure walmart has an algorithm for what theyll order. If its in stores for xmas definate clearance chance. Online only purchase less chance for a deal.
Walmart has it at $399 right now.
Pass on this one as well.
The Galaga cab needs to have Galaga 88 and Gaplus. I know they're just using the same board they used on the Pac-Man cab, but it's senseless to buy a Galaga cab with 6 versions of Pac-Man and Just Galaga and Galaxian.
That's a fantastic point - why in the heck is the 5 versions of Pac-Man on a Galaga cab?
Yellow button is for Wi-Fi which the class of 81 cabinet will also supposedly have no idea what it will be for tho
Interesting.....
You are correct about Defender when I first saw it I was Like "Yes going to get it" ... A day later Im like "love Defender but I dont Know if I want to pay that Price" we will see as date gets closer. Thanks for the update Thumbs up
Thank you BP, as always. I suppose I'd rather have the DEFENDER skin then the MK version, if for no other reason then I'd want a wi-fi version similar to Big Blue. Putting PAPERBOY on this cab, as opposed to STARGATE or some other more appropriate game weird though....
@@evilgeniusentertainment will there be wifi on the defender cab ?
To my knowledge, no. No wi-fi on any of the legacy games.
@@evilgeniusentertainment too bad
Every time I see a new A1up cab, I look at the games and realize I already have them on my Legends with better controls, so the only reason to buy the A1up cabs would be to have the physical cabinet with the art. So, I just can’t justify the purchase.
Yup! The only real reason I'd buy one now is for a unique control deck - racing wheel, Tron joystick, something like that.
But the legends have 8 way joysticks right ? Not good for many games
Peter, I'd actually argue it's the best setup for most games - side scrollers, fighting games, sports - all work best w/8 way set ups. About the only game that really suffers is PAC-MAN and the like. And of course, it's pretty easy to switch out a 8 way setup with a 4 way (or even 2 way): www.amazon.com/Hztyyier-1-Player-Buttons-Joystick-Controller/dp/B07XTF7GQD/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=4+way+directional+joystick+controller&qid=1630858507&sr=8-2
defender please
Lol! They are just in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode now.
They are simply wanting to sell to a new batch of takers who were not at all in on the "1UP" $200 craze of two years ago. Its all about the next ones.. They could care less about those who already have a roomful of these things as they can only get them to rebuy the same cab with the same games in a new skin just so many times.
I hate fighters like mortal Kombat, what a shame that they didn't put Robotron, Stargate and Sinistar on there instead of those stupid fighters. "I HUNGER!"
I like the galaga cab, but it comes with the same games as pac man. Was thinking to get this and then add other games, keeping galaga for more variety. Pac man, galaga, and defender all look very nice. There is a seller on ebay that you ship your pcb to, and they put on there the games you request and then send it back.
BECAUSE NO ARCADE IS COMPLETE WITHOUT ROBOTRON.
I love ROBOTRON. Something I'd pay $300 for in a stand alone cab.
How does that work ? Do you lose the arcade 1up menus , high scores etc ?
I don't know.
I love Defender, but that control panel layout isn't even close to the real thing. It would have to be a pass for me. The Galaga cab at least looks really good, though.
As far as the Galaga 40th anniversary, I'm just going to wait for the Class of 81 cab because I already have all the pacman games. LoL. The class of 81 has a better list of games on it with some I dont have. So hopefully A1up will hurry up and release the Class of 81. Why release a Galaga 40th with almost all Pacman games already released on like 100 cabs when we are still waiting for Class of 81 that at least has a differant variety of games we want.
I guess most of the included games are Bally/Midway games, but if the outside cabinet is dressed up as a Defender machine the marquee should say Williams Defender not Midway.
It is a nice reskin. But no. Rather build my own Williams 19 in 1.
I'm curious, what would be the 19 games?
I pre ordered mine and didn't know about the price increase ...ummm should I now cancel my pre-order? I'm hesitant
Hey, if you have the loot and like the look of the cab and want those games, go for it!
Interested in Defender but not Mortal Kombat. I’ll pass.
I'm kind of pissed off I bought the Mortal Combat legacy cab. Had I knew or had any kind of warning that A1up was planning on releasing a Defender cab with same games inwould of waited and got that one instead.
It would be nice for fans of their products (crazy idea, I know), if they released a yearly roadmap of their games. Car companies, camera manufacturers, computer makers all do so for gear far more expensive than these games.
Chi Bang totally with ya on that
Why can't they do Robotron 2084? Give me a break. I want Robotron and Defender in the same cabinet.
To be fair, it's a totally different control configuration - DEFENDER has a unique set of buttons, while ROBOTRON uses 2 joysticks in the original arcade. Completely different setups, and neither of which is terribly friendly to other games....
@@evilgeniusentertainment I politely disagree, it's a dual stick shooter and there's two joysticks on the deck, it would be perfect
@@evilgeniusentertainment not to mention Stargate and Sinistar
2 sticks, BUT decently far apart; probably too far apart for comfortable play. But hey, I'm always for more games/options....
NO WIFI!!! WTF is wrong with these ppl. no buy!