Glad I could help, but I doubt I nailed it just yet. I might have to upload automated trade platforms as a separate video if I can find a better way to do so.
Storage sensors can be used with trade platforms now! This is as of the Verdant Update, "AS-18959: Storage Sensors should now function for Trade Platforms".
Also on that same note, using the tappers with carbon generators basically replaces RTGs in most cases so nanocarbon isn’t needed as much other than for the other things such as large canisters
@@RoozleDoozle-9210 The tapper is certainly a very powerful item. That's what I'm making my next video on, as it turns out. (It wasn't out yet when I made this, so RTGs were the most reliable way to power it)
Another thing with the storage sensors and trade platforms is that it detects “full” as items on all 8 slots of the trade platform, so items that have a less than one-to-one ratio, such as hematite, will still have the scrap itself fall off then when it gets activated to blast off, so there’s still some finagling that’ll havta be done
Using a player drill with a wide mod on leveling mode on the floor of a gateway chamber, you can then use a drill attached to a crane to collect infinite soil. Other than the gasses, this would make the system fully automatic.
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 intro 0:36 other dirt cheap videos 1:08 the setup 1:28 how we will use it 1:51 gases required and methods for them. 3:25 how this is possible 3:55 automatic soil to scrap 4:32 how to split the scrap to the trade platforms. 7:00 how the splits work and why we did it this way. 7:43 method to tell the platform to execute the trade. 10:10 Trades go at different rates and a solution to that. 13:20 the process for ammonium/ hyrazine. 13:56 the process for graphite/graphene. 14:30 the process for titanium/titanium alloy. 16:24 the process for Iron/steel. 18:11 THE FINAL STAGE for nanocarbon alloy!! (we appreciate you sorry about your throat) 19:22 outro
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer yeah true, I just made nano carbon alloy with soil because I was waaaay too lazy to get iron and titanium from another planet (my base is in atrox) but not lazy enough to not make an automatic soil-scrap-iron/titanium machine lol I also got the organic, grafite and ammonium from the soil centrifuge instead of more trading stations
Quick question before i build it as well. 16:47 how did you hide a storage platform? What platform is it? And how to make sure the autoarm will not put any iron in the atmospheric condenser?
The gool ol' days! I just re-watched that video today and realized how much better my commentary is now. I don't remember being as monotone as I was back then. XD
This is mostly useful for a wicked power-plant type thing of RTGs, I'd say. Anyone who isn't highly prone to going late game won't find this useful. Enjoyable for the sake of automation projects, too. Just a neat concept.
I deeply wish to know what Astroneer characters look like without their helmets. I might make a video where I edit the mask off to reveal some weird af person or something. XD
This is a lot more complicated than it needs to be If you have the Trade rockets on a Med platform B and block one side of the Med P B with an item that can't be picked up like an unopened platform, then on the other side have a small storage with a storage sensor on it linked to the arm holding scrap set to Empty/ Not Empty to disable the scrap arms whenever anything is on the storage To ensure no scrap goes onto the storage just make sure the deposit ring doesnt touch the storage and it only needs to touch any part of the trade rocket to place scrap onto it Doing it this way once a rocket returns all the items it comes back with will automatically move onto the storage saving you from needing an arm as a buffer
Lights in my bases turn on and off automatically depending on the local sunlight. i´ve been using counters related to ful/empty sensors and timers to control incoming resources via autoarms for at least two years. You can feed trade platforms at your wish and counters will activate them. Counters became the programing interface after all. You can build a "Soil-into-any resource programmable facility". and a "programmable chemistry double lab" to get everything you need in 10% the space of this build. I also built a "Moveable auto-multiprinter platform" and a "Astronium-into..." facility. Them all act by themselves, until completing the program or depleting resources , after proper programming and just pressing a START "button". Powering and unpowering facility parts via automation is a "Powerful" resource to consider while designing facilities. Not that easy and not that difficult. Farewell, Astroneers!
It took a lot of time (I guess, it would take a lot more time to craft this nanocarbon myself...), but I have built it ! 🙂With a slight tweak to operate on astronium and solid fuel jet-packs instead on soil and canisters. Btw. I have a question about power. Does it matter if my main power source is right next to this factory or in the far corner of my base ? Does the length of the cable matter ?
No. I need to do that, but I'm going tryhard on my next vid rn. If I don't remember by the time I upload the next vid, you can just send another comment on it or join the Discord and ping me if you want. I'll try to remember, though.
I saw plenty of replies mentioning counters instead of timing for auto arms. I haven’t tried it yet, but I think you could squeeze down some of this by using the filters on auto arms so multiple intermediate items could share platforms. Of course, yours works, so is perfect already… :)
Yeah, there's definitely better methods of doing that whole part than what I did. I'm just not a proficient critical thinker. I would definitely encourage everyone to try and improve the bits that seem inefficient.
The organic part could now be done by tapper, saving soil as result. Thanks for the video tho, assuming at the time there wasn't tapper yet, it's still efficent crafting line
The farm (not to mention the units needed to power it) is definitely very expensive. I would recommend making a semi-auto one if you don't plan on obtaining hundreds of nanocarbon alloy. If you do want hundreds of nanocarbon alloy, though, this is the best way alongside an astronium version of this hands down.
You'd prob need to set up a few more compressors for helium cause it is slow Space engineers production: place down an advanced assembler or 2 with speed modules, you're done Astroneer production: complex conveyor lines
"The gases are not a problem". It definitely is. The entire point of this is that it was interesting to find out how you managed to get everything needed for a nanocarbon alloy with only soil. The intrigue of the video was almost entirely based on finding out how you could get all the gases you need on only one planet using only soil. This contraption isn't practical, it's interesting for a theoretical purpose. Make the theoretical purpose uninteresting, and it becomes redundant.
Gases are renewable with power and you can hold 160 units in just 1 canister, grow up. The contraption WAS interesting for me to build and just going to 2 planets literally once, maybe twice ever is not a big deal
I made a very compact nca factory using 1 extra large plataform C, 2 large T-plataforms and 2 auto arms. Although I need to bring the resources, it serves my needs! I want to start trading scrap now that I finished the cores mission.
trade platforms with extra storage. monitor the storage full , not full this will cause a build up but requires not timing and auto arms filter from there. (med platforms b the ones with the side 2 slots and add random power object on the side not being used.)
I can't follow at 11:40 The sensors are not connected and if I want to connect to a switch, I'm not sure where. My Ammonium line is each time empty and the graphit Tradeplatform drops often the graphit.
I made that part a little confusing. Basically, you're supposed to do the same thing to all the trade platforms that I do to the organic one. The sensors connect to switches before the trade platforms the same way and everything. The switches the sensors connect to prevents the auto-arm from placing scrap on the trade platform by cutting off power to them, which makes it so the trade platform won't take off and drop stuff.
I don’t remember exactly, but it’s well over 100 u/s. This sounds like a ton, but if you run it on less really slow while afk until it gives you a bit of Nanocarbon, you can just turn that into RTGs right after.
Why soil though? Why not just set up an auto extractors to get the resin? Isn't that more efficient? I haven't built this yet nor have I used the extractor but I read it gives 15 times the amount a player gets so it just sounds like it makes sense to use it than soil no?
If you'd use the auto-extractor, you should just use it on Astronium and get the scrap that way. I'll probably cover that in the future. I just liked this because it's a permanent setup. You can always get more soil.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Well if you can automate what's there in the world, why not do that? Resin is everywhere and I don't mind not using Astronium I like what's closer to me and more convenient and getting soil just isn't convenient. It's annoying to get and boring. Oh are the Astronium deposits bigger than Resin ones? Also, what mode do you have those 4 other storage sensors for the arms that deliver into the smelters? Are they all the same as the organics one? Just making sure since you said to have a switch for the organics one but not the rest. but I don't know what would happen if/when the others get full/empty like what you said with the organics one
I love this video. But I noticed that something might not work. I don't know how it's hooked up with the electricity. But it might cause a problem when you put the switch in front of the auto Arm for the Scrap, it'll just turn off the entire system and you won't clear out the Trading platform, so it'll just be permanently off. So I figured a way to fix that is just instead of connecting it to a switch just connect the storage sensor to the auto arm.
There’s a better way to do the entire trade platform automation that I did in the Dirt Cheap Hydrazine video. Idk why I didn’t just use that for this one too.
I know most people are not gonna make this contraption. So I have a suggestion. Make the nanocarbon alloy manually and do every step. But instead of one make 32. Have medium resource canisters and use extra lage platforms. That way you don't even need auto arms, because if you have two devices two stroage and and 3rd final storage then it can all fit automatically and chemistry lab will be able to take resource from the platform. Once you have 32 nano carbon alloy I doubt you will need more. but you can always just repeat the step once you are done.
I did something like this using astronium and Kuya Game's tutorial Edit: You use the astronium to automaticaly buy solid fuel jump jets and then shred those to make even more scrap
Yes. I'll probably make a video on that eventually. Do everything the same except replace the soil centrifuge with a trade platform that trades astronium for solid fuel jump jets and scrap those instead of the soil canisters.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Some reason power doesn't move through the switches even though I supply them power. Is this because there is not enough power?
It's certainly a fun aspect of the game. Farms of this magnitude aren't incredibly useful aside from exo events, but hopefully in the future automation will be a necessity in order to progress into the super late game effectively.
I'm not clear on the benefit of trading for organic as opposed to spinning it up in a separate soil centrifuge? Maybe someone can check my math, but: 1 Small Canister of Soil spins into 4 Resins 4 Resins prints into 4 Small Canisters 4 Small Canisters shred into 1 Scrap 1 Scrap trades into 2 Organics. But... 1 Small Canister of Soil spins into 4 Organics. So, twice as many Organics as trading.
It's more soil efficient, yes, but the automation of that would be highly annoying and you would only save 0.25 canisters per nanocarbon alloy, so it isn't worth it.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Fair enough. I do spin up organics in my own version of the H.Ar.D. factory ([H]elium, [Ar]gon, [D]irt), but you're right, it was a bit of hassle to set up - and with all the buffer tables I had to set up, your version is definitely cleaner & more elegant than mine.
Auto arm keeps scooping my small printer, no matter what I do. I've tried moving it out of range, tried moving it too close, tried literally everything. It intends to just ruin the entire setup for no reason. It's hella irritating, because even outside of its range, it does it anyway.
"dirt cheap" proceeds to make a chart saying it takes 200 resource to make and 30 different types of resources aswell as you have to terraform the planet to get as much rtgs and large canisters than you will ever need
I completely forgot about this pun comment, but returning to this video after beginning to play Astroneer and seeing this comment made me chuckle after almost 9 months! 😂
Hey WCJ! I really need you to see this comment! I invented a way to automatically send the trade platform's rocket to space only when it is full, without the use of timers. My contraption is thus more reliable. You need: 1 L platform B 1 medium storage 9 compound 1 trade platform (obviously) 1 storage detector 1 count repeater 1 button repeater Now, you place ur platform down, and place the trade platform on it. Then, you fill the left side of the L platform B with 2 compound, and place a medium storage on the right side of the platform B. Then, you place 7 compound in the storage. Now, you place a storage detector on the medium storage (ONLY THE STORAGE, IT CANNOT BE CONNECTED TO THE PLATFORM) and set it to FULL OR NOT FULL , you place a count repeater on the ground next to the platform B, and set it to 4. Now, you have to connect the storage repeater with it's cable to the count repeater. Connect the count repeater with it's cable to the trade platform. You should have ONE empty socket in the medium storage, and let's call this one socket "socket important" . Now, the hardest part: place a button repeater on the ground, and connect it with it's cable to the count repeater. Now read CAREFULY: - if ur trade platform is full with scrap, and you have one scrap in the medium storage's " socket important" , use the button repeater to send FOUR signals to the count repeater. - if the "socket important" has a scrap in it, and the rocket isn't on the trading platform but in outer space, fo NOT send a signal to the count repeater. - if the "socket important " has a scrap in it, and your trade rocket has a mix of scrap and the ressource you're trading for, do NOT send a signal to the count repeater. - if the "socket important" is empty, and your trade rocket isnt full of scrap, but still has some of the ressource you trade for then send a ONE signal the the count repeater. - if the "socket important" has the ressource you ' re trading for, send TWO signals to the count repeater. - if the trade platform is FULL of scrap, and the "socket important" is empty, then send THREE signals to the count repeater. - if the trade platform and the "socket important" are both empty, then send THREE signals to the count repeater. Once the final step is done, you can remove the BUTTON repeater. Your trade platform is finally automated. IMPORTANT info: the auto arm loading the trade platform and the auto arm unloading the trade platform with scrap has to also have the "socket important" within it's range. Additionally, the unloading arm has to have the ressource you're trading for as a filter. This can also be used for astronium and fault finder trading; just replace "scrap" with "astronium" or "fault finder". I hope you'll find this helpful, wish you a great day and im sorry for my English as it is not my main language.
I have a hard time comprehending this without following along in-game step by step. I'll try to look into this later and perhaps even remaster this video to make it farm more efficient. Thanks a lot, though. I really appreciate all the effort that went into this comment.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Hey WCJ. I understand my comment may be hard to understand, so I made a video on how to make that system. There it is: ruclips.net/video/f-m6Fbo-gBI/видео.html&ab_channel=Kalash (I promise it is not a rick roll)
It's twice as cheap to get both of those through scrap conversion. The only thing that would be cheaper to get from the centrifuge is the organic for the carbon, but it's not worth saving only half a canister per nano to most people since that would require you to add a lot of annoying automation of allocating soil from the original centrifuge to a different centrifuge at the start.
Great tutorial. Very easy to understand. I do have a couple of suggestions to simplify the build and operating processes. First, I suggest building this plant on Vesania instead for a couple of reasons. 1st, it has 3 of the 4 gases you need and 2nd it has high levels of lithium. If you build an auto extractor network on lithium nodes, coupled with the nanocarbon alloy this plant is making, and you can make an automatic RTG plant. All the second part is optional but makes it a good fit. BTW, you can expand the trade stage to bring in glass and make an additional titanium line to make an automatic Large Resource Canister line. Doing both those extensions would fully automate the repeatable uses of the nanocarbon alloy. Second, I think the use of counters can better automate the trade stage for this plant. It would take some manual input of scrap to set up the timing, but I think it would make the build cleaner and more efficient. TBH I haven't played around with the automation capabilities in this game but I definitely think these would make your build more reliable and easier to operate. Also, have to give you compliments on the cleanliness of your build, mine are messy from the start lol.
I did not realize Vesania had more of what I needed. That's an interesting fact. Also, about the count repeaters, I used those in my dirt cheap hydrazine video and somehow went full sped mode and forgot about it and devolved into a monkey when I made it for this video. XD
You could of done this with an astronium scrap farm and a rail station to bring you the astronium for a much more efficient and entirely automatic design thats what I did at least lol
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer I highly recommend you do! It's just a better version of dirt to nanocarbon. It's 3 scrap per 1 astronium with rocket jump jett boosters, and with just a single trade platform you can keep a XL shredder permanently occupied with them.
Ammonium and graphite are twice as cheap through scrap conversion. As for organic, it would only save a little bit (0.25 canisters of soil per nanocarbon) to make it into soil directly, but it would be super annoying to change a great deal of the system to keep it automatic while accurately allocating the appropriate amount of soil towards organic for each nanocarbon. In short, I guess, it's overall cheaper, and when it isn't, it saves a lot of trouble for a low price.
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Everyone has been dying for a resource list for this thing and I kept forgetting to make one until now:
imgur.com/u5aPIFz
You did a great job there thank you so much! If you really make another video abou this factory, try mention how much energy is necessary to run.
Thank you so much im defintly going to bulid this❤👍
Thats a great way to do this! i didnt even know you could automate trade platforms. Thanks for sacrificing your voice for our entertainment :)
Glad I could help, but I doubt I nailed it just yet. I might have to upload automated trade platforms as a separate video if I can find a better way to do so.
Storage sensors can be used with trade platforms now! This is as of the Verdant Update, "AS-18959: Storage Sensors should now function for Trade Platforms".
Very unfortunate given that my fairly new and most recent upload was about how to get around them not working for trade platforms.
Timing. :D
I’m an idiot though so I’d still like to see how you’d incorporate it into the system with that update now
Also on that same note, using the tappers with carbon generators basically replaces RTGs in most cases so nanocarbon isn’t needed as much other than for the other things such as large canisters
@@RoozleDoozle-9210 The tapper is certainly a very powerful item. That's what I'm making my next video on, as it turns out.
(It wasn't out yet when I made this, so RTGs were the most reliable way to power it)
Another thing with the storage sensors and trade platforms is that it detects “full” as items on all 8 slots of the trade platform, so items that have a less than one-to-one ratio, such as hematite, will still have the scrap itself fall off then when it gets activated to blast off, so there’s still some finagling that’ll havta be done
Using a player drill with a wide mod on leveling mode on the floor of a gateway chamber, you can then use a drill attached to a crane to collect infinite soil. Other than the gasses, this would make the system fully automatic.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 intro
0:36 other dirt cheap videos
1:08 the setup
1:28 how we will use it
1:51 gases required and methods for them.
3:25 how this is possible
3:55 automatic soil to scrap
4:32 how to split the scrap to the trade platforms.
7:00 how the splits work and why we did it this way.
7:43 method to tell the platform to execute the trade.
10:10 Trades go at different rates and a solution to that.
13:20 the process for ammonium/ hyrazine.
13:56 the process for graphite/graphene.
14:30 the process for titanium/titanium alloy.
16:24 the process for Iron/steel.
18:11 THE FINAL STAGE for nanocarbon alloy!! (we appreciate you sorry about your throat)
19:22 outro
This should also be pined
Would like a “equipment list” for farms this big😅
You're right. Idk why I didn't think to do that, tbh...
I might redo it after awhile. I have a habit of realizing dozens of errors in my older videos and making them again in a more finished way.
"I lost my will to live entirely; that was exciting"
instead of using the trade beacon to get organic, you can use a tapper for a more efficient supply.
You are an astroneer genius IDK how you came up with all this but thank you soooooo much!
Love it. I've such a struggle getting stitches right
Love that backdrop, mixing Glacio and Atrox.
I actually made most of my nano carbon alloy by turning soil into scrap and getting every material from that (except for hidrogen and argon) lol
It's a great method when automated, but otherwise it takes a lot of time.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer yeah true, I just made nano carbon alloy with soil because I was waaaay too lazy to get iron and titanium from another planet (my base is in atrox) but not lazy enough to not make an automatic soil-scrap-iron/titanium machine lol
I also got the organic, grafite and ammonium from the soil centrifuge instead of more trading stations
I wanted to see it run! Great explanation
Quick question before i build it as well. 16:47 how did you hide a storage platform? What platform is it? And how to make sure the autoarm will not put any iron in the atmospheric condenser?
I hid it by dropping it there without locking it. It’s a medium platform A. The iron cannot be placed in the condenser.
Famous words from WCJ: but I have gumption
The gool ol' days! I just re-watched that video today and realized how much better my commentary is now. I don't remember being as monotone as I was back then. XD
I made 20 nanocarbon alloy at one point around a month ago and I've only used 3 of them so far lmao
This is mostly useful for a wicked power-plant type thing of RTGs, I'd say. Anyone who isn't highly prone to going late game won't find this useful.
Enjoyable for the sake of automation projects, too. Just a neat concept.
RTG stands for Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator.
Great video!!!! Thanks for this! Love you videos!!!
It would be a shame if someone made it dirt cheap
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I deeply wish to know what Astroneer characters look like without their helmets. I might make a video where I edit the mask off to reveal some weird af person or something. XD
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer I know especially the exotic suit 👀👀
@@Max-sv9hh Huh?
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer It should have 8 eyes because there are 4 visors so 2 per visor technically
@@Max-sv9hh That's some spooky stuff.
This is a lot more complicated than it needs to be
If you have the Trade rockets on a Med platform B and block one side of the Med P B with an item that can't be picked up like an unopened platform, then on the other side have a small storage with a storage sensor on it linked to the arm holding scrap set to Empty/ Not Empty to disable the scrap arms whenever anything is on the storage
To ensure no scrap goes onto the storage just make sure the deposit ring doesnt touch the storage and it only needs to touch any part of the trade rocket to place scrap onto it
Doing it this way once a rocket returns all the items it comes back with will automatically move onto the storage saving you from needing an arm as a buffer
This confirms my theory that I have sub 80 IQ.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer😂
The new tapper makes this a little easier only got to split it 4 ways
Building that in my world seem hard at first but easy in process but the resource grinding is the real enemy
Lights in my bases turn on and off automatically depending on the local sunlight. i´ve been using counters related to ful/empty sensors and timers to control incoming resources via autoarms for at least two years. You can feed trade platforms at your wish and counters will activate them. Counters became the programing interface after all. You can build a "Soil-into-any resource programmable facility". and a "programmable chemistry double lab" to get everything you need in 10% the space of this build. I also built a "Moveable auto-multiprinter platform" and a "Astronium-into..." facility. Them all act by themselves, until completing the program or depleting resources , after proper programming and just pressing a START "button". Powering and unpowering facility parts via automation is a "Powerful" resource to consider while designing facilities. Not that easy and not that difficult. Farewell, Astroneers!
I’m so bad at automation as of now tbh. I’m definitely going to have to remaster this video sometime.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer I don´t think you are bad at all, just the opposite.
It took a lot of time (I guess, it would take a lot more time to craft this nanocarbon myself...), but I have built it ! 🙂With a slight tweak to operate on astronium and solid fuel jet-packs instead on soil and canisters.
Btw. I have a question about power. Does it matter if my main power source is right next to this factory or in the far corner of my base ? Does the length of the cable matter ?
If its connected then distance wont matter in the case of power, just the amount available
Been playing this game for about a week. This build looks awesome! Did you ever make a list of materials yet?
No. I need to do that, but I'm going tryhard on my next vid rn.
If I don't remember by the time I upload the next vid, you can just send another comment on it or join the Discord and ping me if you want. I'll try to remember, though.
I saw plenty of replies mentioning counters instead of timing for auto arms. I haven’t tried it yet, but I think you could squeeze down some of this by using the filters on auto arms so multiple intermediate items could share platforms.
Of course, yours works, so is perfect already… :)
Yeah, there's definitely better methods of doing that whole part than what I did. I'm just not a proficient critical thinker. I would definitely encourage everyone to try and improve the bits that seem inefficient.
The organic part could now be done by tapper, saving soil as result.
Thanks for the video tho, assuming at the time there wasn't tapper yet, it's still efficent crafting line
The tapper was, in fact, not out yet.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Yea iam aware, that's what i said
Man thank u sooo much cuz I am lacking a TON of power and other high end stuff so I NEED nanocarbon alloy.
At this point, the farm is more expensive than the recourse! 😭😂💀
The farm (not to mention the units needed to power it) is definitely very expensive. I would recommend making a semi-auto one if you don't plan on obtaining hundreds of nanocarbon alloy. If you do want hundreds of nanocarbon alloy, though, this is the best way alongside an astronium version of this hands down.
You'd prob need to set up a few more compressors for helium cause it is slow
Space engineers production: place down an advanced assembler or 2 with speed modules, you're done
Astroneer production: complex conveyor lines
"The gases are not a problem". It definitely is.
The entire point of this is that it was interesting to find out how you managed to get everything needed for a nanocarbon alloy with only soil.
The intrigue of the video was almost entirely based on finding out how you could get all the gases you need on only one planet using only soil.
This contraption isn't practical, it's interesting for a theoretical purpose. Make the theoretical purpose uninteresting, and it becomes redundant.
You smell bad.
Gases are renewable with power and you can hold 160 units in just 1 canister, grow up. The contraption WAS interesting for me to build and just going to 2 planets literally once, maybe twice ever is not a big deal
For me the only hard parts is the gasses with the semi auto scrap thing :/
Watching this update in march and now I don’t need to do all this splitting since the tapper was released
I made a very compact nca factory using 1 extra large plataform C, 2 large T-plataforms and 2 auto arms.
Although I need to bring the resources, it serves my needs!
I want to start trading scrap now that I finished the cores mission.
trade platforms with extra storage. monitor the storage full , not full this will cause a build up but requires not timing and auto arms filter from there. (med platforms b the ones with the side 2 slots and add random power object on the side not being used.)
Any auto arm connected to the storage and delay repeaters don’t turn back on once the platforms get full any ideas what I’m doing wrong?
Are your storage sensors set to the “full or empty” mode?
For me on the auto arm the storage sensor doesn’t work when I try to do it just doesn’t wait for it to be full to take do you have any solutions?
You have to set it to full or empty and it has to be placed on the platform.
I am looking forward to building it, but how much u/s does it require? Like for it to work on medium speed
Medium speed, I would try 40 u/s. However, it's really slow at max speed.
I can't follow at 11:40
The sensors are not connected and if I want to connect to a switch, I'm not sure where.
My Ammonium line is each time empty and the graphit Tradeplatform drops often the graphit.
I made that part a little confusing.
Basically, you're supposed to do the same thing to all the trade platforms that I do to the organic one. The sensors connect to switches before the trade platforms the same way and everything. The switches the sensors connect to prevents the auto-arm from placing scrap on the trade platform by cutting off power to them, which makes it so the trade platform won't take off and drop stuff.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Thanks for the quick response! Can't see any connections of power or switches in the video.
@@Timo-F93 This whole tutorial was a bit rough. I need to redo it with a more efficient trade platform strategy.
You don’t even need to trade for organic anymore because of tapers
How much power does this need? You need nanocarbon alloy to get all the rtgs, and one for the storage.
I don’t remember exactly, but it’s well over 100 u/s. This sounds like a ton, but if you run it on less really slow while afk until it gives you a bit of Nanocarbon, you can just turn that into RTGs right after.
Hey one question could i replace smelting furnace with the portable one for faster production?
It wouldn’t be much faster since the other resources and the scraping part are what really slow the whole system down. You can though.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer okay thanks for help im kinda new to automatizating so
You’re welcome. :D
Technically, if you use inter planetery trains, its dirt cheap dirt cheap
Why soil though? Why not just set up an auto extractors to get the resin? Isn't that more efficient? I haven't built this yet nor have I used the extractor but I read it gives 15 times the amount a player gets so it just sounds like it makes sense to use it than soil no?
If you'd use the auto-extractor, you should just use it on Astronium and get the scrap that way. I'll probably cover that in the future. I just liked this because it's a permanent setup. You can always get more soil.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Well if you can automate what's there in the world, why not do that? Resin is everywhere and I don't mind not using Astronium I like what's closer to me and more convenient and getting soil just isn't convenient. It's annoying to get and boring. Oh are the Astronium deposits bigger than Resin ones? Also, what mode do you have those 4 other storage sensors for the arms that deliver into the smelters? Are they all the same as the organics one? Just making sure since you said to have a switch for the organics one but not the rest. but I don't know what would happen if/when the others get full/empty like what you said with the organics one
I love this video. But I noticed that something might not work. I don't know how it's hooked up with the electricity. But it might cause a problem when you put the switch in front of the auto Arm for the Scrap, it'll just turn off the entire system and you won't clear out the Trading platform, so it'll just be permanently off. So I figured a way to fix that is just instead of connecting it to a switch just connect the storage sensor to the auto arm.
There’s a better way to do the entire trade platform automation that I did in the Dirt Cheap Hydrazine video. Idk why I didn’t just use that for this one too.
I know most people are not gonna make this contraption. So I have a suggestion. Make the nanocarbon alloy manually and do every step. But instead of one make 32. Have medium resource canisters and use extra lage platforms. That way you don't even need auto arms, because if you have two devices two stroage and and 3rd final storage then it can all fit automatically and chemistry lab will be able to take resource from the platform. Once you have 32 nano carbon alloy I doubt you will need more. but you can always just repeat the step once you are done.
If just build it Like in the vid took me like 3hours
my brain after the words dirt cheap
D4C dirty deeds done dirt cheap
I did something like this using astronium and Kuya Game's tutorial
Edit: You use the astronium to automaticaly buy solid fuel jump jets and then shred those to make even more scrap
Yeah, I also made a video on Astronium to scrap. I never automated it, though. I may revisit the topic in a later video.
Would it be possible to use astronium than soil for this farm?
Yes. I'll probably make a video on that eventually.
Do everything the same except replace the soil centrifuge with a trade platform that trades astronium for solid fuel jump jets and scrap those instead of the soil canisters.
You could replace the organic one with a tapper
actually gas still cost hydrozeen but that is already 'dirt' cheap.
How many power switches will I need for the arms before the trade platform? You only shown 1 in the video.
One for each trade platform.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Thanks man!
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Some reason power doesn't move through the switches even though I supply them power. Is this because there is not enough power?
How do I keep the auto arm from grabbing the printer?
Put whatever you want it to grab on it.
It has a filter slot where it will only pick up what is on that slot.
Thank you soooo much! You are a life saver!
You went through all that and didn't show it in action?? What a jerk!
Great job though, that was awesome. Get some Ricola
I never got far enough into Astroneer to start on automation. I really should fix that.
It's certainly a fun aspect of the game. Farms of this magnitude aren't incredibly useful aside from exo events, but hopefully in the future automation will be a necessity in order to progress into the super late game effectively.
Could you make an equipment list because I’m kinda getting stuck on if I have already made it or not thx
Nvm
I just saw link
Nice! I knew you could use scrap, but I didn’t think it was viable. I thought you needed a ton of canisters for 1 scrap
I'm not clear on the benefit of trading for organic as opposed to spinning it up in a separate soil centrifuge?
Maybe someone can check my math, but:
1 Small Canister of Soil spins into 4 Resins
4 Resins prints into 4 Small Canisters
4 Small Canisters shred into 1 Scrap
1 Scrap trades into 2 Organics.
But...
1 Small Canister of Soil spins into 4 Organics.
So, twice as many Organics as trading.
It's more soil efficient, yes, but the automation of that would be highly annoying and you would only save 0.25 canisters per nanocarbon alloy, so it isn't worth it.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Fair enough. I do spin up organics in my own version of the H.Ar.D. factory ([H]elium, [Ar]gon, [D]irt), but you're right, it was a bit of hassle to set up - and with all the buffer tables I had to set up, your version is definitely cleaner & more elegant than mine.
wait so do i put a power switch on all assembly lines?
Yes. It allows the trade platforms to be prevented from taking off in case anything gets ahead for whatever reason.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Thanks, I've had some problems with the entire setup but I'm gonna try see if I can fix it and ill come back if I cant
Auto arm keeps scooping my small printer, no matter what I do. I've tried moving it out of range, tried moving it too close, tried literally everything. It intends to just ruin the entire setup for no reason. It's hella irritating, because even outside of its range, it does it anyway.
You have to filter the auto arm by putting the item you want it to pick up in its slot.
Would it be better to use a portable smelter?
Idk.
could you give a list of all the resorses needed to make this?
I might tomorrow if I remember.
Or just make compound then tethers then scrap then nanocarbon alloy
why trade scrap for organic when you can get it from soil?
Because that’s not as fast as putting soil in and having everything craft automatically.
Couldn't you use counters to activate the trade platforms?
Yes. That’s better. I did that in a previous video then forgot how to be smart when I made this one.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer that's such a mooooood
I found out that you just need 1 solar array to make it all work but it will only run very slowly
It’s pretty slow at max speed which requires 100+ u/s. I wouldn’t recommend not going max speed.
Wait, we don't get to see it in action?? :D After all that effort...
Great video though, really helpful, thanks!
Yeah, I was told this by another as well. Somehow it just didn’t cross my mind.
Instead of just using dirt, set up multiple auto extractors on a large resin deposit, and just do that so its more efficient
If you’d rather use auto extractors, resin isn’t nearly as good as astronium. I’ll be covering that in the future probably.
I just like soil.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer lol🤣
What do you need Nanocarbon alloy for?
Only the most expensive stuff, unfortunately for us all.
RTG, large recourse canister, and the portable oxygen
@@Flyingpotato-hg6wg thanks
Could you tell me how much energy does this system need?
I don't remember. I really should have included that in the video. I just forgot to.
"dirt cheap" proceeds to make a chart saying it takes 200 resource to make and 30 different types of resources aswell as you have to terraform the planet to get as much rtgs and large canisters than you will ever need
It was a trap.
Don't forget about the infinite dirt glitch.
So, the Argon and the Helium are on the same platform, but they're not "steel-ing" from each other because of the auto arm filters.
Correct
I completely forgot about this pun comment, but returning to this video after beginning to play Astroneer and seeing this comment made me chuckle after almost 9 months! 😂
Hey WCJ! I really need you to see this comment! I invented a way to automatically send the trade platform's rocket to space only when it is full, without the use of timers. My contraption is thus more reliable. You need:
1 L platform B
1 medium storage
9 compound
1 trade platform (obviously)
1 storage detector
1 count repeater
1 button repeater
Now, you place ur platform down, and place the trade platform on it. Then, you fill the left side of the L platform B with 2 compound, and place a medium storage on the right side of the platform B. Then, you place 7 compound in the storage. Now, you place a storage detector on the medium storage (ONLY THE STORAGE, IT CANNOT BE CONNECTED TO THE PLATFORM) and set it to FULL OR NOT FULL , you place a count repeater on the ground next to the platform B, and set it to 4. Now, you have to connect the storage repeater with it's cable to the count repeater. Connect the count repeater with it's cable to the trade platform. You should have ONE empty socket in the medium storage, and let's call this one socket "socket important" . Now, the hardest part: place a button repeater on the ground, and connect it with it's cable to the count repeater. Now read CAREFULY:
- if ur trade platform is full with scrap, and you have one scrap in the medium storage's " socket important" , use the button repeater to send FOUR signals to the count repeater.
- if the "socket important" has a scrap in it, and the rocket isn't on the trading platform but in outer space, fo NOT send a signal to the count repeater.
- if the "socket important " has a scrap in it, and your trade rocket has a mix of scrap and the ressource you're trading for, do NOT send a signal to the count repeater.
- if the "socket important" is empty, and your trade rocket isnt full of scrap, but still has some of the ressource you trade for then send a ONE signal the the count repeater.
- if the "socket important" has the ressource you ' re trading for, send TWO signals to the count repeater.
- if the trade platform is FULL of scrap, and the "socket important" is empty, then send THREE signals to the count repeater.
- if the trade platform and the "socket important" are both empty, then send THREE signals to the count repeater.
Once the final step is done, you can remove the BUTTON repeater. Your trade platform is finally automated.
IMPORTANT info: the auto arm loading the trade platform and the auto arm unloading the trade platform with scrap has to also have the "socket important" within it's range. Additionally, the unloading arm has to have the ressource you're trading for as a filter.
This can also be used for astronium and fault finder trading; just replace "scrap" with "astronium" or "fault finder".
I hope you'll find this helpful, wish you a great day and im sorry for my English as it is not my main language.
I have a hard time comprehending this without following along in-game step by step. I'll try to look into this later and perhaps even remaster this video to make it farm more efficient.
Thanks a lot, though. I really appreciate all the effort that went into this comment.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Hey WCJ. I understand my comment may be hard to understand, so I made a video on how to make that system. There it is: ruclips.net/video/f-m6Fbo-gBI/видео.html&ab_channel=Kalash (I promise it is not a rick roll)
Thank you. I'm pretty sure that's what I did for my dirt cheap hydrazine video. I don't know why I decided to switch to a worse version of this. XD
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Yes exactly I just checked that video and you made a very similar design.
The splitting of the scrap to the trade platforms did not work for me
Have not found a solution yet
Do you know what part seems to be not working?
Its okay i fixed it
loved the vid but upset cuz you didnt show it workin and i was looking forward to that
Yeah, I should have. I was a bit focused on the great length of the tutorial, though, lol.
Man I love your videos …….
Thank :D
What a legend
I play on xbox series S I'm going to make a version based on yours, how can I send it to you?
Not sure if you can. I have no idea how that works.
Dirt then resin then scrap then auggg I can’t keep up 😂
Dude… you can turn soil directly into ammonia and graphite. Two more soil centrifuges would be way cheaper than two trade platforms.
It's twice as cheap to get both of those through scrap conversion.
The only thing that would be cheaper to get from the centrifuge is the organic for the carbon, but it's not worth saving only half a canister per nano to most people since that would require you to add a lot of annoying automation of allocating soil from the original centrifuge to a different centrifuge at the start.
Great tutorial. Very easy to understand. I do have a couple of suggestions to simplify the build and operating processes.
First, I suggest building this plant on Vesania instead for a couple of reasons. 1st, it has 3 of the 4 gases you need and 2nd it has high levels of lithium. If you build an auto extractor network on lithium nodes, coupled with the nanocarbon alloy this plant is making, and you can make an automatic RTG plant. All the second part is optional but makes it a good fit. BTW, you can expand the trade stage to bring in glass and make an additional titanium line to make an automatic Large Resource Canister line. Doing both those extensions would fully automate the repeatable uses of the nanocarbon alloy.
Second, I think the use of counters can better automate the trade stage for this plant. It would take some manual input of scrap to set up the timing, but I think it would make the build cleaner and more efficient.
TBH I haven't played around with the automation capabilities in this game but I definitely think these would make your build more reliable and easier to operate.
Also, have to give you compliments on the cleanliness of your build, mine are messy from the start lol.
I did not realize Vesania had more of what I needed. That's an interesting fact.
Also, about the count repeaters, I used those in my dirt cheap hydrazine video and somehow went full sped mode and forgot about it and devolved into a monkey when I made it for this video. XD
You could of done this with an astronium scrap farm and a rail station to bring you the astronium for a much more efficient and entirely automatic design
thats what I did at least lol
I might in the future. I haven’t even done an automatic astronium to scrap video, though.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer I highly recommend you do! It's just a better version of dirt to nanocarbon. It's 3 scrap per 1 astronium with rocket jump jett boosters, and with just a single trade platform you can keep a XL shredder permanently occupied with them.
can someone make a video with the whole layout on screen?
We wanted to see it in action!!
It’s a rather long process from start to finish, but you’re right. I just wasn’t thinking near the end.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer I don't blame you. You must have been fried after trying to explain it lol
Indeed. XD
Ayyyyyyy hell yeah dude
I agree, wholeheartedly.
Yooo new video 🥰🤩
Knew video.
Yo how much power do i need to run this up
I forgot. I was going to say it in the video, then didn't somehow, and now I don't remember.
How much rtg’s we need to power it
I don't remember. I forgot to include it, too, unfortunately.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer sad
And now you need to get like 50 rtg's
You can turn some of the soil directly into organic, graphite, and ammonium... why waste time trading scrap for it?
Ammonium and graphite are twice as cheap through scrap conversion. As for organic, it would only save a little bit (0.25 canisters of soil per nanocarbon) to make it into soil directly, but it would be super annoying to change a great deal of the system to keep it automatic while accurately allocating the appropriate amount of soil towards organic for each nanocarbon.
In short, I guess, it's overall cheaper, and when it isn't, it saves a lot of trouble for a low price.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamer Fair enough, haven't really done much automation myself in Astroneer (apart from biofuel during Halloween event).
pleeease let it run next time at least for a minute i was so sad you didnt :( :D
I'm fixin to do this in my hard-core world
Pretty big project, but worth it.
How much power does it need
I don’t remember. I think I might have said it near the start.
@@worldclassjerk-epicgamerI don’t remember you saying it
"it makes sense"
I tried building this in survival, ended up blowing up with tnt 😂
Oof.
It would be kinda nice to have a resource cost list and a layout picture of something, know what just stupify this whole video.
I keep saying I'm going to make one and I never fail to forget.
I'm highly ashamed.
I feel like I'm doing more work in this game than I do at work 🤣! Hell even in Minecraft I didn't feel this much over worked 😆.
You gotta put in that grind to set up easy nano.
the rockets won’t take off?
Not sure why that would be.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy you did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is achlly 800 ninocarbin trying to help