@@mr.alphabet1918 I'm assuming you're asking if it's possible to max out throw moves? That's actually a really good question. From my experience, it’s almost impossible to max them out in Shenmue I, even if you set up training to “throws only” and use them in every given situation. This is exactly what I did when I created the save file I use for the speedrun, and as you can see from the video at 0:28, the move proficiency bar is still far from full... This is not the case for Shenmue II, where it’s generally easier (but still tedious) to train throw moves as there are more FREE battles and repeatable fights you can “farm”. If “cheating” isn’t a problem for you, you can mod your PC save files and manually max out all throw moves, thanks to BtEtta’s save editor. I did that a couple of years ago and it worked great. Here are the links to the save editors. - BtEtta's Save Editor for Shenmue I: www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/save-editor-for-shenmue-i.3141/ - BtEtta's Save Editor for Shenmue II: www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/save-editor-for-shenmue-ii.3166/ Spoiler warning: Mastering throw moves is 100% not worth it. From my tests, they seem to stop getting stronger at a certain point during training. If you train them up to 55/70%, they will have reached their maximum damage output.
This is why I loved Shenmue Not only for the story, but every single man that you fought has different clothes, hair etc. Not just 5 same npc, 70 different
@@marianoancos4434 I’m not sure I understand. Do you mean if it’d be possible to make QTE moves work in FREE battle? In that case, the answer is most likely no, as I suspect those animations come from an area that’s completely unrelated to the combat system and therefore, can’t be forced to work in FREE battle mode.
Yup, that is absolutely insane. The game was so ahead of its time, it took years before other companies were able to incorporate just some of the mechanics first found in Shenmue. Even now, almost 23 years later, there's arguably no other game like it.
This part was mindblowing to me as kid, looking back now I forgot JUST how fragile most of the enemies are . Number 12 dies from having a barrel rolled into him from 10 feet away 😂. Even if this is now obsolete, still nice work!
Thanks buddy! As a guy who only first played the series in 2018 with the HD remasters, the 70 Man Battle blew my mind and really ignited my love for the OG combat system. Most enemies have indeed very low health and go down in one shot, even when using Ryo’s weakest moves, while others have slightly more health and only select moves will take them out in one blow. This is all stuff I take into account when doing time trials. The barrel/crate strategy is something I’m not sure the developers intended, as it always does the same damage (albeit very low) no matter how slow it’s going, but it's always a blast when you get it to work! Too bad these interactive objects only appear in a couple of places and then disappear entirely from the series...
Thanks buddy, that’s also one of my favorite parts, as it’s very rare for the Elbow Assault to hit Pedro during his Drop Kick attempts. Usually it either misses or you get hit before you have the chance to go for it. That’s one of the reasons I’m still fond of this run all this time later. ❤
@@RichardPayne5 Thanks for comment, this is also one of favorites to be honest i keep replaying that, i also want to start new challenge... but will it be as good as karl...
@@TuskaChannel1.7B1weeksago Hey man, I say go for it! It’s a lot of fun to learn the strategies and find ways to save seconds and achieve better times! Karl’s time is almost unbeatable (I’ve been trying since late January but all my WR pace runs have died against Pedro), but you never know, you might just do it with enough practice and patience! If you need any help, you can count on me! By the way, I love your time trial comparison videos! Looking forward for more. ❤
@@RichardPayne5 yeah,, he made two Record in a few days he is really really crazy.. btw i don't know the 3:10 move you do after cyclone kick is it big wheel or mistral flash it seems like a pain to do that scene.. even dangerous. . Btw,, i will do it new challenger even look funny to chase Record and being champion😂 Edit btw its on your Run 2:33.70 i talk about.. After cyclon kick and what that move big wheel or mistral flash?
@@TuskaChannel1.7B1weeksago Nice, good luck with your attempts! Sub 3 minutes is the first main milestone you want to aim for. Once you achieve that goal, it will get progressively harder and harder to save seconds, due to how random the fights can be at times. In my 2:33.70 run, I start with Cyclone Kick, followed by Big Wheel (trained), then Cyclone Kick again, then I go for Tiger Storm but it fails (Ryo performs a grab attempt instead) as my alignment was incorrect. From there, it’s all improv, trying to deal damage to Pedro and getting rid of the other guys, while waiting for another opening for the Wall Glitch. Normally, I’d start with Cyclone Kick, then Dark Moon (trained), then either go for Tiger Storm if alignment is correct and glitch chance is high, or use other moves while waiting for a better opening. However, the final fight against Pedro is not as simple as I make it out to be. It’s important to know Pedro can dodge or block whenever he feels like it, and he can even attack you before you have the chance to use Cyclone Kick, meaning it’s completely random whether the strategy will work, hence why getting a record has become so hard. Let me know if you need any help learning the strategies, like the Demon Drop spam, or the Wall Glitch. 🧐
Pedro's "BUKKOROSHITEYARU" is a line forever embedded into my mind, though I will say "I'LL KILL YOU" is equally as iconic! It's also one of the only two lines of dialogue he has in the whole game, the other being "You need help?" during the Tony and Smith QTE chase. 🤣
That’s because I’m using Flycast via Retroarch. it’s much more lightweight compared to Demul and it comes with a save state feature. No fancy 4k internal resolution though, but it’s not like it matters for a 20+ years old game anyway. 😂
is there a way to slow down the background music, because i'm halfway through shenmue. the music is so loud that there is no option to slow it down. do you use any kind of tools?
Are you saying you want to lower the BGM volume? If it's on Dreamcast, you can't do anything about it, as the Dreamcast version lacky any kind of audio customization. You could in theory achieve that by modding the game files directly, but it would be a hideous task. 😵
@@RichardPayne5 so how do you do like your run in that video.. which has no music. did you replace the music from a file like flag of lions or orchestra earth and sea.😂
@@thatsmekarl5365 In my last run, I indeed modded the game to play no music and put my own music through editing. The process is not particularly complicated, but it’s pretty long and requires multiple softwares. I could write a quick guide on how to do that if you want, or alternatively, I could send you a modded build of the game if you tell which Dreamcast version you're currently playing. 😉 OT: Happy New Year man! May 2024 give us both a new Shenmue game and a SUB 2:30 run 😂
@@RichardPayne5 I feel interested in this modder, 😲 but all I need now is to remove the music, it might be a bug, because the sound is too loud, and the bass is destroyed😂 , so what is the tool? maybe if it's that long it might be difficult, I play undub version from River Stone Happy New Year 2024👩🎤 too Master of Shenmue combo, 👍 can't imagine we all played in 2018, and my old laptop played dreamcast emulator in 2017 with full bug, fps drop, heat😂 we all need to pass sub 2:30 and i need to pass 2:35😂
@@thatsmekarl5365 Thanks buddy, hopefully we will surpass the 2:30 boundary, but Pedro needs to stop ruining runs and be a pal for once! 😂 Since you’re interested, I’ll look into writing a guide as soon as I get the time! It’s not difficult at all, but it does require multiple tools to make it happen. About the sound glitches you’re having, have you tried changing the audio driver in the emulation environment you’re using? In Retroarch for example, I found “xaudio” to be the most accurate and the others somehow make the audio worse. In Flycast standalone version, "sdl2" is the one I use. Wouldn’t know about redream. Can’t guarantee it will work, but it’s worth a try. OT: On a side note, not sure if you follow me on Twitter, but I've released a "Play as Guizhang in 70 MB" mod, compatible with the Shenmue undub Definitive Edition. Check it out if you're interested! Play as Guizhang: x.com/Richard_Payne5/status/1741512715133165899
Which song? You mean the one playing during the run? It's the OST version of Earth and Sea (aka Continent and Sea), the main theme of the 70 Man Battle. This version was included in both the Shenmue Original Soundtrack and the Shenmue I & II Sound Collection releases. It's arguably the best Shenmue fight theme so far, I absolutely love it! ❤
![Shenmue 70 Man Battle speedrun in 2:33.70 by Richard Payne [Former WR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9rqh681tAtA/mqdefault.jpg)
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This run has now been bested! 👊The new World Record is 2:25.56! 🥋
You can find it on my channel here → ruclips.net/video/g9YlKeTsQK8/видео.html
how did you do to max a throw move as demon drop?
@@mr.alphabet1918 I'm assuming you're asking if it's possible to max out throw moves? That's actually a really good question.
From my experience, it’s almost impossible to max them out in Shenmue I, even if you set up training to “throws only” and use them in every given situation. This is exactly what I did when I created the save file I use for the speedrun, and as you can see from the video at 0:28, the move proficiency bar is still far from full...
This is not the case for Shenmue II, where it’s generally easier (but still tedious) to train throw moves as there are more FREE battles and repeatable fights you can “farm”.
If “cheating” isn’t a problem for you, you can mod your PC save files and manually max out all throw moves, thanks to BtEtta’s save editor. I did that a couple of years ago and it worked great. Here are the links to the save editors.
- BtEtta's Save Editor for Shenmue I: www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/save-editor-for-shenmue-i.3141/
- BtEtta's Save Editor for Shenmue II: www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/save-editor-for-shenmue-ii.3166/
Spoiler warning: Mastering throw moves is 100% not worth it. From my tests, they seem to stop getting stronger at a certain point during training. If you train them up to 55/70%, they will have reached their maximum damage output.
damn, this is impressive. especially how you destroyed the pipe guy. that was badass.
This is why I loved Shenmue
Not only for the story, but every single man that you fought has different clothes, hair etc. Not just 5 same npc, 70 different
You are absolutely ridiculous at this. Love it mate
Thanks buddy!
@@RichardPayne5 will be posible QTE pass to free Battle movement?? Thanks
@@marianoancos4434 I’m not sure I understand. Do you mean if it’d be possible to make QTE moves work in FREE battle? In that case, the answer is most likely no, as I suspect those animations come from an area that’s completely unrelated to the combat system and therefore, can’t be forced to work in FREE battle mode.
@@RichardPayne5 If you succeed I would give you 1500 euros, it is true and I would give it to you with great pleasure
Damn well played, I can never get enough of shenmue combat. Earth and sea is a legendary song too, I'll never get sick of it or its remixes.
Man this is sick! Just imagine this game came out in 99
Yup, that is absolutely insane. The game was so ahead of its time, it took years before other companies were able to incorporate just some of the mechanics first found in Shenmue. Even now, almost 23 years later, there's arguably no other game like it.
This world record speedrun is too sick!
Thanks for watching! 🙇
@@RichardPayne5 You're very welcome! I'm looking forward to the next world record you set!
The real Yakuza 0.
That's not untrue 😬
This part was mindblowing to me as kid, looking back now I forgot JUST how fragile most of the enemies are . Number 12 dies from having a barrel rolled into him from 10 feet away 😂. Even if this is now obsolete, still nice work!
Thanks buddy! As a guy who only first played the series in 2018 with the HD remasters, the 70 Man Battle blew my mind and really ignited my love for the OG combat system.
Most enemies have indeed very low health and go down in one shot, even when using Ryo’s weakest moves, while others have slightly more health and only select moves will take them out in one blow. This is all stuff I take into account when doing time trials.
The barrel/crate strategy is something I’m not sure the developers intended, as it always does the same damage (albeit very low) no matter how slow it’s going, but it's always a blast when you get it to work! Too bad these interactive objects only appear in a couple of places and then disappear entirely from the series...
Love this my dude! Shenmue lives on
Erano qualcosa di spettacolare i primi due Shenmue quando furono rilasciati a suo tempo per DC.
You deserve more recognition
Shenmue deserves more recognition 😉
Well done
Thanks man! Though this is now the former world record, as I got an even faster run earlier this year! → ruclips.net/video/9rqh681tAtA/видео.html
even obsolete. but this is my favorite part all the time which is 3:07 'Pedro jump kick + elbow assault and fly like a bird😂
Thanks buddy, that’s also one of my favorite parts, as it’s very rare for the Elbow Assault to hit Pedro during his Drop Kick attempts. Usually it either misses or you get hit before you have the chance to go for it. That’s one of the reasons I’m still fond of this run all this time later. ❤
@@RichardPayne5 Thanks for comment, this is also one of favorites to be honest i keep replaying that, i also want to start new challenge... but will it be as good as karl...
@@TuskaChannel1.7B1weeksago Hey man, I say go for it! It’s a lot of fun to learn the strategies and find ways to save seconds and achieve better times! Karl’s time is almost unbeatable (I’ve been trying since late January but all my WR pace runs have died against Pedro), but you never know, you might just do it with enough practice and patience!
If you need any help, you can count on me! By the way, I love your time trial comparison videos! Looking forward for more. ❤
@@RichardPayne5 yeah,, he made two Record in a few days he is really really crazy.. btw i don't know the 3:10 move you do after cyclone kick is it big wheel or mistral flash it seems like a pain to do that scene.. even dangerous. .
Btw,, i will do it new challenger even look funny to chase Record and being champion😂
Edit btw its on your Run 2:33.70 i talk about.. After cyclon kick and what that move big wheel or mistral flash?
@@TuskaChannel1.7B1weeksago Nice, good luck with your attempts! Sub 3 minutes is the first main milestone you want to aim for. Once you achieve that goal, it will get progressively harder and harder to save seconds, due to how random the fights can be at times.
In my 2:33.70 run, I start with Cyclone Kick, followed by Big Wheel (trained), then Cyclone Kick again, then I go for Tiger Storm but it fails (Ryo performs a grab attempt instead) as my alignment was incorrect. From there, it’s all improv, trying to deal damage to Pedro and getting rid of the other guys, while waiting for another opening for the Wall Glitch.
Normally, I’d start with Cyclone Kick, then Dark Moon (trained), then either go for Tiger Storm if alignment is correct and glitch chance is high, or use other moves while waiting for a better opening. However, the final fight against Pedro is not as simple as I make it out to be. It’s important to know Pedro can dodge or block whenever he feels like it, and he can even attack you before you have the chance to use Cyclone Kick, meaning it’s completely random whether the strategy will work, hence why getting a record has become so hard.
Let me know if you need any help learning the strategies, like the Demon Drop spam, or the Wall Glitch. 🧐
Cool video 🙂
in 2002, playing on the dreamcast , passed in 3.47
3:47 in 2002? That means you were probably in the top 10 back then. 😎
@@RichardPayne5 maybe) At that time, I didn't compete with anyone. Just trying to set a personal best
3:04 UKURUSHT YARE!😅
Pedro's "BUKKOROSHITEYARU" is a line forever embedded into my mind, though I will say "I'LL KILL YOU" is equally as iconic! It's also one of the only two lines of dialogue he has in the whole game, the other being "You need help?" during the Tony and Smith QTE chase. 🤣
@@RichardPayne5You can hear so much hatred in this one line🤣 It sounds like he literally said it through his teeth and It's always gets me🤣🤣
Impressive!!!)))
The emulation is pretty smooth
That’s because I’m using Flycast via Retroarch. it’s much more lightweight compared to Demul and it comes with a save state feature. No fancy 4k internal resolution though, but it’s not like it matters for a 20+ years old game anyway. 😂
a full on gang of sailors vs one hazuki boi
Hazuki boi too OP
Love it
is there a way to slow down the background music, because i'm halfway through shenmue. the music is so loud that there is no option to slow it down. do you use any kind of tools?
Are you saying you want to lower the BGM volume? If it's on Dreamcast, you can't do anything about it, as the Dreamcast version lacky any kind of audio customization. You could in theory achieve that by modding the game files directly, but it would be a hideous task. 😵
@@RichardPayne5 so how do you do like your run in that video.. which has no music. did you replace the music from a file like flag of lions or orchestra earth and sea.😂
@@thatsmekarl5365 In my last run, I indeed modded the game to play no music and put my own music through editing. The process is not particularly complicated, but it’s pretty long and requires multiple softwares. I could write a quick guide on how to do that if you want, or alternatively, I could send you a modded build of the game if you tell which Dreamcast version you're currently playing. 😉
OT: Happy New Year man! May 2024 give us both a new Shenmue game and a SUB 2:30 run 😂
@@RichardPayne5 I feel interested in this modder, 😲
but all I need now is to remove the music, it might be a bug, because the sound is too loud, and the bass is destroyed😂 , so what is the tool? maybe if it's that long it might be difficult,
I play undub version from River Stone
Happy New Year 2024👩🎤 too Master of Shenmue combo, 👍
can't imagine we all played in 2018, and my old laptop played dreamcast emulator in 2017 with full bug, fps drop, heat😂
we all need to pass sub 2:30 and i need to pass 2:35😂
@@thatsmekarl5365 Thanks buddy, hopefully we will surpass the 2:30 boundary, but Pedro needs to stop ruining runs and be a pal for once! 😂
Since you’re interested, I’ll look into writing a guide as soon as I get the time! It’s not difficult at all, but it does require multiple tools to make it happen.
About the sound glitches you’re having, have you tried changing the audio driver in the emulation environment you’re using? In Retroarch for example, I found “xaudio” to be the most accurate and the others somehow make the audio worse. In Flycast standalone version, "sdl2" is the one I use. Wouldn’t know about redream. Can’t guarantee it will work, but it’s worth a try.
OT: On a side note, not sure if you follow me on Twitter, but I've released a "Play as Guizhang in 70 MB" mod, compatible with the Shenmue undub Definitive Edition. Check it out if you're interested!
Play as Guizhang: x.com/Richard_Payne5/status/1741512715133165899
What is the name of this song?
Which song? You mean the one playing during the run? It's the OST version
of Earth and Sea (aka Continent and Sea), the main theme of the 70 Man Battle. This version was included in both the Shenmue Original Soundtrack and the Shenmue I
& II Sound Collection releases. It's arguably the best Shenmue fight theme so far, I absolutely love it! ❤
@@RichardPayne5 thank you so much and yes it's a killer track. Always sticks in my mind so I had to ask
@@RichardPayne5 do you know what the song is over the moves screen from 17:00-0:32 ?
@@maxhoughtonmusic It's "Bar Swing" from Shenmue II. :)
and then we have Ryo fighting like an absolute newb in 3
In Ryo’s defence, he did spend like 18 years stuck in a cave. It’s only natural he got rusty and seemingly forgot half the moves he had learned 🤦♂
@@RichardPayne5 imagine taking out throwing moves. Damn 3 was a disappointment.