that bothered me so much that you didn't remove it... once the sand is on you cannot see it anymore, but my OCD was driving me crazy when you just left it. crazy that you didn't notice. seemed very obvious
Love the close ups. I would suggest using supports on the inside of the volume for supporting the joints so that you don't have to drill holes in the face.
Wow, that was a very professionally made volume. I have made a few all pretty rough cut without the jigs and table saw. But this is by far the best one I have seen on RUclips!
Here: habitclimbing.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61_101&product_id=213 I don´t know where you are from, so there will be a supplier in every country. You need to look for "flange t-nuts" or "screw on t-nuts". You can also use the ones with the claws but pre driling is required in plywood. Otherwise you have to hammer really really really hard.
Mate, I am from Sarawak, Borneo and we run everything in metric. Seemed like there are no metric T nuts. I have build a few walls and use the T nuts with the claws that seemed to pop out every now and again. I like that CNC machine of yours.. does magic it seemed.
Have you had a look on Alibaba? Its kind of a specialy item. I think they are only used in climbing walls. You could secure the hammer in ones with a tiny screw on an edge. The CNC is nice when it works. If it doesn´t its super frustrating. But I spend a few weeks setting it up, tuning it and atm I just need to turn it on and it runs.
This video was incredibly helpful years ago when I started making volumes. Thank you! These days I use PL Premium in all of my joints and just tack the volume together with brad nails to keep it together while it sets. The joints are ridiculously strong and it takes a TON of work out of the process. I've been using the volumes in a commercial gym for the last 5 years without issue. Thank you again for the great video!
@MaxMakerChannel sand the surface after applying the top coat? The issue I'm having is my top coat doesn't have a naturally sticky, grippy texture. It feels almost like it has been lacquered.
@@spencerbrown7522 Add sand to the first layer of paint. Don’t touch it!! Only Sprinkle. You cannot add to much. Then let it cure and add a second layer of paint only. Very easy.
Thank you for this awesome video. I will make a volume for the gym that I work, using your video. I have a few questions: 1: The corner cut that you've made at 0:45. Is there another way to make this cut precisely without a table saw? If not, which table saw do you recommend for me to buy? 2: Is there a way to screw the volume on the wall from behind? 3: Do you think is necessary to make some kind of backup inside the volume? (For exemple: Hold every face of the volume with some steel cables?). Thank you and sorry my english. (Brazil)
+SharpenedEyes Thats really cool to know that my video will inspire a build in brazil! 1. You could use a bandsaw a jigsaw, circular saw or a tilting router. But the table saw will give the most accurate and precise cuts. I recommend you buy one that you can afford and that has everything square, planar and parallel. Most cheap saws are not and therefore are unusable for any project. 2. Just put in the screws from the back. 3. Thats a good idea. When built right they are very strong. My one is still hanging today in the same position. Instead of using steel cables you should use climbing rope since it needs to be flexible.
Your volume looks pretty great! Can you comment on how well the paint/texture is holding up in a gym setting? If it's holding up decently, would you mind sharing the brand and variety of paint you used, including primer? It's been proving very hard to find something that will hold up to even home gym use.
So far its holding up ok : ) I made it to be as tough as possible. If this doesn´t work longterm I am out of ideas. There is a full writeup about the paint on www.instructables.com/id/Build-an-Amazing-Climbing-Wall-Volume/
Max, glad to hear it's holding up well so far. I actually posted the same question on your "instructables" write up. I've called 3 different stores that sell automotive paint and none of them carry anything "designed for heavy machinery" which is why I was asking what brand and variety of paint you used so I can source that exact paint. As I'm sure you know, paints get very complicated very quick so the more exact I can be when asking for a product the more likely I think I'll be in getting what I need. Thank you so much for the help!
I got it from a tiny online shop in Germany. Its called "2k Acrylic Paint". www.lackwelt24.de/index.php?cat=c267_0-75-Liter-Sets-0-75-Liter-Sets.html I would reccomend you look for the same paint that people put on their cars. Make sure its 2k and acrylic based not epoxy based. I am no expert on paint though. The stuff I bought was described to be super tough. I am sure most paint is pretty similar.
Very Cool Vid. Making some for new home gym. What are the measurements and angles for the triangles exactly? All I saw was 60" for the rough cut board. and 5 or 6 degrees for the edges.
Cool! I made an instructable for it with all dimensions and step by step instructions. Its in the description. The angles need to be very precise for this to work.
Hi, amazing video! i,m from Brazil and i am looking for some "flange nut" like these ones that you use. i put it on quotation marks becouse i dont know the name of it, sorry fpr my bad ing, could you please name it for me? or send a link to buy it? thank you.
What hardware on the backside? Ive been using the T nuts with teeth but they are always popping out when resetting ... super annoying :| thanks for the instruction... it speaks volumes!
What would be also quite helpful is the name of the materials used in this. I see how to make one, but to know what to use to make one isn't as easy to figure out.
Thank you for your feedback. An instructable is coming soon. All you need is 20mm plywood, 2k paint, epoxy resin to fill the gaps and regular wood glue plus screws.
You can follow the template in the instructable. Alternatively you construct a shape you like with a CAD program and then measure the angle. If both those solutions aren’t feasible, I can calculate the angles for you for €20 if you send me a sketch.
@@MaxMakerChannel I figured it out. Gave myself a trigonometry lesson this morning to refresh what I learned in High School. LOL. Great video though! Thanks for posting it!
Oh very cool. Mine is from a kit, but is quite small 7" x 12" - thinking about upgrading. Haha, you could wear a mask! Seriously though, understandable about trying to stay out of the camera lens.
+Jeremy Cook's Projects Well that is probably good enough for all parts that you would normally 3D print. I hope I can build another one one day with many improvements.
I was thinking that I want to make my own volumes but after watching this I don't even think I can. The effort to build a small wall in my house was frustrating enough.
Very nice dude ! Can you tell me the names of all the tools used for drilling the holes which you use to screw all the stuff together ? I really want to get that stuff for my own but never saw something like this!
+ sqdJohannes Hoffmann Thank you. Its called a pocket hole jig. In the US its called a Kreg Jig. In Germany they sell one called undercover jig from Wolfcraft. I bought the simplest version and its fine. They come with the drill and accessories. But be careful when using the drill freehand. Its very brittle.
How did you do the math for cutting the wood? I'd like to make my own custom ones but I have no idea where to start so that I can put all the boards and have them line up.
subbed and loved the video haha. I'm not too familiar with building things and I'm curious how you can tell that the wood will hold somebody's weight while climbing? thanks!
Hey. I saw you’re instructable details. But I’m having a hard time finding the paint. Especially in Anything other than gray and black. What brand paint is it specifically. Where did you get it.
I am using fine silica sand that you can get in any hardware store. The grain size is between 0.1 and 0.8mm in diameter which is the standard size in Europe. Here is the instructable: www.instructables.com/id/Build-an-Amazing-Climbing-Wall-Volume/
Hi from Croatia, Zadar :) I was thinking to do the same volume myself as I have pretty much all the tools available. Have you maybe blueprints for more shapes?
@@MaxMakerChannel :) haha thanks for the offer but I'll try to do it by myself.. It's not that complicated, I just have to get the angle of the sides but supposedly there is a plugin for sketchup for that. cheers!
+Amdraz Thank you! My best advice for any problem solving project is to go step by step and to deal with the task at hand. About the design: Be creative! Engineering is an iterative process. Take an idea and refine it over and over until you reached the perfect plan. Then build it and improve as you go along.
Cost, maybe 30€ if I remember correctly. It would be worth doing 5 at once because they use very little wood and paint, but you cannot reuse the paint brushes.
Great vid man, I like your style! You might like to know that I saw this video shared from my indoor rock climbing gym's Facebook page in Sydney, Australia! I'm also an engineer, Mechanical though, and am really enjoying your channel! I'd love it if you checked mine out! :) P.S. Don't worry about those animal welfare activists, we use Mortein down here :p
Thank you very much! Awesome to know that this video literay went around the world. I guess you guys must be better climbers to not fall off the earth!
Very nice!
that bug, forever entombed.
I know! Only saw it while editing. Poor guy.
that bothered me so much that you didn't remove it... once the sand is on you cannot see it anymore, but my OCD was driving me crazy when you just left it. crazy that you didn't notice. seemed very obvious
+CGagnon5 I had to focus also on filming and keeping my cats out of the paint. I am a little bit annoyed that the bug hijacked my shot.
Adds to the texture
That's one bug immortalized in the climbing world, 3:37.
i will never complain about the price of these again, beautiful work :>
Thanks!
I was thinking the same thing.
Only thing is that when you buy one, it's just a mold, right?
@@tblends Not for volumes. They’re usually made out of wood like this and are not like climbing holds that are just poured into molds
I found this immensely satisfying to watch.
Thanks a lot! Stay tuned for future projects!
[bug] "whoa,.... sick mountain,... this is bug-everest I gotta climb this,...."
[human paint snow storm]
[bug forever 'frozen' on bug-everest]
That ant that got painted into the volume bottom left side at 3:35. RIP
Nooooooo
Op you sick fuck
Love the close ups. I would suggest using supports on the inside of the volume for supporting the joints so that you don't have to drill holes in the face.
Ok, I want to make one of these now! That Instructable pushed me over the edge.
Just had to say that was amazing! Appreciate you showing us how it's done.
+robthabro thank you very much. More videos are coming soon. Feel free to share with your friends. That would help.
This guy makes a volume, but the only thing people in comments talk about is a bug
Nice. Something in me found this relaxing to watch.
Sick build
Rip bug at 3:38 that was painted into the volume
Wow! That entire process was amazing. I subscribed! I would love to see more content like this!
+MattG2105 Thank you! More to come!
Wow, that was a very professionally made volume. I have made a few all pretty rough cut without the jigs and table saw. But this is by far the best one I have seen on RUclips!
Thank you very much! This hangs in my local gym so I put in extra effort ; )
Where do you buy your T nuts from? We only have the ones with the 'claws'. Thanks for your reply for the above message.
Here: habitclimbing.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61_101&product_id=213 I don´t know where you are from, so there will be a supplier in every country. You need to look for "flange t-nuts" or "screw on t-nuts". You can also use the ones with the claws but pre driling is required in plywood. Otherwise you have to hammer really really really hard.
Mate, I am from Sarawak, Borneo and we run everything in metric. Seemed like there are no metric T nuts. I have build a few walls and use the T nuts with the claws that seemed to pop out every now and again. I like that CNC machine of yours.. does magic it seemed.
Have you had a look on Alibaba? Its kind of a specialy item. I think they are only used in climbing walls. You could secure the hammer in ones with a tiny screw on an edge.
The CNC is nice when it works. If it doesn´t its super frustrating. But I spend a few weeks setting it up, tuning it and atm I just need to turn it on and it runs.
This video was incredibly helpful years ago when I started making volumes. Thank you! These days I use PL Premium in all of my joints and just tack the volume together with brad nails to keep it together while it sets. The joints are ridiculously strong and it takes a TON of work out of the process. I've been using the volumes in a commercial gym for the last 5 years without issue. Thank you again for the great video!
Wow! I figured you could make them easier if you made more. Cool that you found this useful!
Is this the method you use for texturing? Also what paint do you use? I've been experimenting but most paints have a slippery glossy texture.
As long as you add sand it doesn’t matter if its glossy or not.
@MaxMakerChannel sand the surface after applying the top coat? The issue I'm having is my top coat doesn't have a naturally sticky, grippy texture. It feels almost like it has been lacquered.
@@spencerbrown7522 Add sand to the first layer of paint. Don’t touch it!! Only Sprinkle. You cannot add to much. Then let it cure and add a second layer of paint only. Very easy.
RIP bug 3:36
I saw a previous comment mentioning it, but thanks for the time stamp :)
Hahaha, I think he paintes it. And it is still on the volume, it crawled slowly on it...
Beautiful. Looks like there is a lot of work involved to make a pro volume.
Especially if you have to paint it 4 times and sand everything back off. Wrong paint, wrong sand, wrong technique...
@@MaxMakerChannel should put some varnish on top of it! and spread the abrasive texture over a layer of varnish instead over the paint layer.
Thank you for this awesome video.
I will make a volume for the gym that I work, using your video.
I have a few questions:
1: The corner cut that you've made at 0:45. Is there another way to make this cut precisely without a table saw? If not, which table saw do you recommend for me to buy?
2: Is there a way to screw the volume on the wall from behind?
3: Do you think is necessary to make some kind of backup inside the volume? (For exemple: Hold every face of the volume with some steel cables?).
Thank you and sorry my english. (Brazil)
+SharpenedEyes Thats really cool to know that my video will inspire a build in brazil!
1. You could use a bandsaw a jigsaw, circular saw or a tilting router. But the table saw will give the most accurate and precise cuts. I recommend you buy one that you can afford and that has everything square, planar and parallel. Most cheap saws are not and therefore are unusable for any project.
2. Just put in the screws from the back.
3. Thats a good idea. When built right they are very strong. My one is still hanging today in the same position. Instead of using steel cables you should use climbing rope since it needs to be flexible.
So does paint, sand, paint work better than trying to do a sand paint mixture?
Awesome work! I really would like to see more of that!
There are plenty of videos : ) I am currently editing another woodworking video. I am making some nightstands.
Thanks very much for making an instructions document btw. Might make this volume when my climbing wall is done
Good luck!
Your volume looks pretty great! Can you comment on how well the paint/texture is holding up in a gym setting? If it's holding up decently, would you mind sharing the brand and variety of paint you used, including primer? It's been proving very hard to find something that will hold up to even home gym use.
So far its holding up ok : ) I made it to be as tough as possible. If this doesn´t work longterm I am out of ideas. There is a full writeup about the paint on www.instructables.com/id/Build-an-Amazing-Climbing-Wall-Volume/
Max, glad to hear it's holding up well so far. I actually posted the same question on your "instructables" write up. I've called 3 different stores that sell automotive paint and none of them carry anything "designed for heavy machinery" which is why I was asking what brand and variety of paint you used so I can source that exact paint. As I'm sure you know, paints get very complicated very quick so the more exact I can be when asking for a product the more likely I think I'll be in getting what I need. Thank you so much for the help!
I got it from a tiny online shop in Germany. Its called "2k Acrylic Paint". www.lackwelt24.de/index.php?cat=c267_0-75-Liter-Sets-0-75-Liter-Sets.html I would reccomend you look for the same paint that people put on their cars. Make sure its 2k and acrylic based not epoxy based. I am no expert on paint though. The stuff I bought was described to be super tough. I am sure most paint is pretty similar.
Fantastically produced video!!
Thank you very much!
Marvellous video! What kind of paint did you use?
Atticus Silverson Its all in the instructable.
Very Cool Vid. Making some for new home gym. What are the measurements and angles for the triangles exactly? All I saw was 60" for the rough cut board. and 5 or 6 degrees for the edges.
Cool! I made an instructable for it with all dimensions and step by step instructions. Its in the description. The angles need to be very precise for this to work.
Of course you did. I asked before I scrolled. My bad . Your Good (*You're)
+DAnhorn Post some pictures of your result!
Hi, amazing video! i,m from Brazil and i am looking for some "flange nut" like these ones that you use. i put it on quotation marks becouse i dont know the name of it, sorry fpr my bad ing, could you please name it for me? or send a link to buy it? thank you.
Hey Pedro, they have a lot of different names, most commonly they are called T-nuts and if you look around fasteners shops, you should find some.
@@MaxMakerChannel thank you 🤜🤛
What hardware on the backside? Ive been using the T nuts with teeth but they are always popping out when resetting ... super annoying :| thanks for the instruction... it speaks volumes!
T nuts, but with holes to screw them down. You can also screw screws next to the edges of the t-nuts so the screws head holds down the nut.
@@MaxMakerChannel Thank you and nice work! keep pushing !
beautiful job!
Do you use any software to design the climbing volume and know the right angles to cut?
Thank you very much
Yes. I used Fusion 369!
Thank you very much!! Good work@@MaxMakerChannel
it was spectacular, congratulations.
what kind of paint did you use?
Thanks. It was 2 component epoxy based paint for industrial machines. The most heavy duty stuff I could find.
carrying them with quickdraws and a hanger is I think the smartest thing I've ever seen... holy shit
Hi, thank you so much for the video. are there any alternatives to the silica sand that you sprinkled towards the end?
You can use salt or normal sand, but that doesn’t get you the perfect climbing gym texture. Only fine silica sand is fine enough.
What would be also quite helpful is the name of the materials used in this. I see how to make one, but to know what to use to make one isn't as easy to figure out.
Thank you for your feedback. An instructable is coming soon. All you need is 20mm plywood, 2k paint, epoxy resin to fill the gaps and regular wood glue plus screws.
+Max Mustermann Thanks for your quick response! That helps quite a lot!
+Austin Arkes Here is the instructable. www.instructables.com/id/Build-an-Amazing-Climbing-Wall-Volume/
+Max Mustermann Really appreciate it! Very helpful.
No problem! Post your pictures if you build one!
What's the material you use to give it some grip? Sand? Thanks
Yes fine, dry sand. Details are in the instructable.
How exactly do you calculate the angles for the bevel cuts?
You can follow the template in the instructable. Alternatively you construct a shape you like with a CAD program and then measure the angle. If both those solutions aren’t feasible, I can calculate the angles for you for €20 if you send me a sketch.
@@MaxMakerChannel I figured it out. Gave myself a trigonometry lesson this morning to refresh what I learned in High School. LOL. Great video though! Thanks for posting it!
John Lethen well done! Feel free to send me a picture when you are done or link it to me on Instagram.
Very cool (and very nice CNC router)! Needs some footage of you climbing!
+Jeremy Cook's Projects Thanks. I build the CNC myself. I try to stay off-camera for now, although my climbing style is epic : D
Oh very cool. Mine is from a kit, but is quite small 7" x 12" - thinking about upgrading.
Haha, you could wear a mask! Seriously though, understandable about trying to stay out of the camera lens.
+Jeremy Cook's Projects Well that is probably good enough for all parts that you would normally 3D print. I hope I can build another one one day with many improvements.
Oh yeah, it's been super-useful, but as I'm sure you know, it usually needs "just a tiny bit more travel" to get a job done!
I was thinking that I want to make my own volumes but after watching this I don't even think I can. The effort to build a small wall in my house was frustrating enough.
Sure you can! Just get started and you will figure it out. Practice makes perfect.
best video I've watched today. looks great
Nice!
What are the angles of eatch board?
+Walid Musagoni Its in the instructable
Hi, how did you make the grip texture on your volume ?
Please read the instructable in the description.
Very nice dude !
Can you tell me the names of all the tools used for drilling the holes which you use to screw all the stuff together ?
I really want to get that stuff for my own but never saw something like this!
+ sqdJohannes Hoffmann Thank you. Its called a pocket hole jig. In the US its called a Kreg Jig. In Germany they sell one called undercover jig from Wolfcraft. I bought the simplest version and its fine. They come with the drill and accessories. But be careful when using the drill freehand. Its very brittle.
Max Maker nah, it's a pocket hole jig in the US...
How did you do the math for cutting the wood? I'd like to make my own custom ones but I have no idea where to start so that I can put all the boards and have them line up.
Psiclone I tried and failed, so I did a shape in CAD. That gave me the angles.
subbed and loved the video haha. I'm not too familiar with building things and I'm curious how you can tell that the wood will hold somebody's weight while climbing? thanks!
+Vincent Madden I am glad you enjoyed it. It is mainly experience, but yesterday I yanked on it like crazy.
Cool! Thank you for the fast response :)
Amazing work! Where did you source those Tnuts with the screws?
Thanks. Look around in some hardware stores online!
What is the size of the sand?
What kind of paint do you use?
Could you make a video on how to make a climbing wall.
Great video !!!
+Time lapse (île de la reunion) Thank you! Please have a look at the Instructable in the description. There are all the details.
Hey. I saw you’re instructable details. But I’m having a hard time finding the paint. Especially in Anything other than gray and black. What brand paint is it specifically. Where did you get it.
Its a german shop without branding.
very nice video, what do you use at 3.54 to give the texture at the volume??
I am using fine silica sand that you can get in any hardware store. The grain size is between 0.1 and 0.8mm in diameter which is the standard size in Europe.
Here is the instructable: www.instructables.com/id/Build-an-Amazing-Climbing-Wall-Volume/
thnks :D
Hi, how do yo make the texture? thanks
+Andrés Manosalva Rodriguez Its all explained in the Instructables in the description.
The pocket hole jig that you used is really necessary? It's seems like you only used it twice and made the other holes without the jig.
+SharpenedEyes I only used it for the shallow joints. You can also free hand this.
That layer at 3:52 , so helpful !
Magnificent work. What did you use for the texture?
The details are in the Instructable. Quarz sand and epoxy.
Hi from Croatia, Zadar :) I was thinking to do the same volume myself as I have pretty much all the tools available. Have you maybe blueprints for more shapes?
No sorry, but if you want you can draw me a picture with the shape and the rough dimensions and I can make you a plan for €20.
@@MaxMakerChannel :) haha thanks for the offer but I'll try to do it by myself.. It's not that complicated, I just have to get the angle of the sides but supposedly there is a plugin for sketchup for that. cheers!
@@hrvojegrancaric9592 Good Luck!
awesome..
+agung hartadi Thank you!
Really nice video, I'm designing a wall for my garage at the moment. Any tips?
+Amdraz Thank you! My best advice for any problem solving project is to go step by step and to deal with the task at hand. About the design: Be creative! Engineering is an iterative process. Take an idea and refine it over and over until you reached the perfect plan. Then build it and improve as you go along.
Max Maker sound advice. It's going to be free standing, as about the only thing the garage structure is good for is keeping rain out.
+Amdraz Make sure it cannot fall over!
Amdraz Tipp:make it biiiig 👍
+Markus Mayer don't worry I will!
What program do you use?
Fusion 360
That’s a lot of work!
A friend made 10 of them recently!
Regalame alguna herramienta!!!
3:20 like a bee... ahah
Would I be able to buy one from you
Not really. It would be cheaper. If you buy a commercial one.
Wow! Subscribed👏
bravo !
+thomas vz Thanks: )
Great video!
+Onni Larri Thank you! More coming soon!
Very nice volume:)
Thank you!
i feel srry for the insect at the 3:36 he justa wanna look and u destroy it.
wood work, good work by the way
Excellent!
+Ralu D Thank you!
This video is awesome!
+Yuge Hao Thank you very much!
I have all of the same tools as you, lol-
great vid thanks!!
How come? Thanks!
use dowels to fill the poket holes.
very well made video! subscibed also the tool at :27 seconds looks amazing lol i want one now.
Thank you very much!
Time and Cost? :)
Cost, maybe 30€ if I remember correctly. It would be worth doing 5 at once because they use very little wood and paint, but you cannot reuse the paint brushes.
@@MaxMakerChannel In Turkey they generally cost ~70€. Thanks for info :)
Nice!
i now understand why these things can be so expensive lol, that was just a wooden one
I want justice for my guy Anthony the ant. He ain't deserved treatment like that.
what kind of t -nut is that one?
Link in Instructable.
That's a lot of work, a lot of tools, but hardcore
sick video
Thank you!
Amazing :)
Thank you!
Did you just painted over that bug?
3:35 good volume i was the ant
that bug ahhahahahhaha
ludicrous speed.
+Tumble Sensei I dont want to waste your time : )
3:36 the bug 👁👄👁
This is a dope video.
+asd ed Thanks!
Subbed and kek'd
+okbrb thank you! More videos are coming.
the bug at 3:35 ._.
Annnnnd I'll never do this.
Awe that poor little bug rip
nice :D
Great vid man, I like your style! You might like to know that I saw this video shared from my indoor rock climbing gym's Facebook page in Sydney, Australia!
I'm also an engineer, Mechanical though, and am really enjoying your channel! I'd love it if you checked mine out! :)
P.S. Don't worry about those animal welfare activists, we use Mortein down here :p
Thank you very much! Awesome to know that this video literay went around the world. I guess you guys must be better climbers to not fall off the earth!
Haha! I guess it's a perspective thing :p
Max Maker as an Australian we don’t want him would you like to take him of our hands
好
3:36 rip fly xDDD
my guy became part of the volume xDDD
How to make a volume:
Step one: Get a CNC machine.
No no no. I built that machine.
Step One buy a cnc machine.... Step two get a workshop to put it in...
Step one is a handsaw for 15€.
What if I don’t have any robots?
you painted over a bug
So, spend about 100k on machines. Then spend 3 hours making one. OK, going to buy one online now. It's worth every penny! lol
What? I built the CNC from scratch. All you need is a jigsaw and a beltsander.
lol
Totally useless video without a whole bunch of fancy equipment
Kinda harsh. How did you think these are made?
IT work prety good ... but its not the best .. if i jump on it Will broke
+B.genest Philippe Did you build one?
Stop talking out ya butt hole. This is a very well made piece of kit.
Diresta style, I really liked this
Yeah we both don´t talk : ) Love his videos, but he has quite a rustic style and I like high gloss finish more.