LOUD TUBULAR BELLS YOU CAN PROGRAM TO PLAY
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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yeah looking at the pic i messed up on dimensions im gunna raise it all up a tad. hit a bit more middley of it. will also alleviate the rocking, these are in no means a perfect design but you know how it is, warts and all add to the fondness.! the best is the one that is just good enough! so yeah raise beater bar up about 20cm and boom bish bosh bash mr moustache.
Mr. Moustache. That can only be me. I approve.
Good move on the beaters, I built a set of tubular bells years ago back in high school and found that hitting them at different spots (nodes antinodes and all that wash) gave you much more pleasant sounds. I love the work you're doing with the channel, by the way. Seeing the history preserved and on display is awesome. If I'm ever in the UK I'll be sure to pay a visit!
The two we had as a doorbell, was struck between the strings almost....🙂
FWIW (I know, not really what you’re looking for, but I’m just mentioning it as a bit of trivia), the chimes on a Wurlitzer cinema organ have a solid metal disc at the top end of each tube (probably most all tubular chimes do), and they sound the best when you strike them very near that top end (like within 1 cm of it). The Wurlitzer hammers happen to be metal for weight, but the actual striking material is a separate round piece in the middle of the hammer. I think what they originally used was probably wood, or maybe very hard rubber. On one set that the local group here has (Rochester, NY, US), that middle part has been replaced with a solid plastic such as Nylon or Delrin, and they sound great with that.
Changing the stroke time to be shorter would also reduce the swinging.
Futurama cover when?
What is a futurama? Will do if knew what it was!
Aaah just checked cartoooon.
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER The theme song is based on the Fatboy Slim remix of Pierre Henry's Psyche Rock
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER What... isn't Futurama well-known among such fine gentlemen of our age? :)
😂
If this doesn't play 'carol of the bells' on Christmas then there's something seriously wrong. 😄
Probability of that = 99.9997%. 6 sigma certainty.
@@Dylan_Lanckman oh yes , ding dingy dong
I remember our percussion guy playing the tubular bells on or near the top rim of the tube, maybe that will improve the sound?
probably not as they don't have end caps
Might be worth trying to move the beaters higher up. Should reduce the swinging
This might the best idea so far!
there might be a sweet spot where the sound is best
On a set of concert tubular bells the tubes slide through a set of holes (usually a board with staggered holes) each hole has felt glued around it but theres still plenty of space for the bell to ring freely. What this does however is only allow the bell to swing so far before it is restrained. This would resolve your errant bell tapping.
Also concert tubes have a pedal which like the vibes allows you to deaden the bells on demand. I imagine a smart individual could come up with a relay based system to individually deaden a single tube and midify it! 😅
indeed! concert sets have 3 boards with felt-lined holes in a sandwich, normally with the holes all vertically aligned. The "filling" board moves to the left, or right on action of the damper pedal to squeeze all bars at once against the felts damping them all. Old Deagan tower chimes had individual solenoid driven dampers which raised a felt (maybe rubber?) puck up against the bottom of each tube, but those tubes were very heavy. I'm not sure such a mechanism would work well with relatively lightweight tubes such as these - but it might.
I notice there is quite a bit of swinging. The picture of the original show that the beaters were roughy a foot higher, probably reducing that swinging. Is there any particular reason why you choose to put them lower?
messed up measurement. spent last 48 hours building it didnt notice till looking back
Are they all being hit in the optimal spot? I thought that was quite important for how they sound
Also what I thought, they sound wildly different from each other.
After watching this, I ask myself ‘has the ‘Tubular Bells been passed on from Mr. Oldfield to Mr. Sam’. I can certainly hear ‘Tubular Bells 4’ being finished and future similar projects on the horizon.
Another fascinating video Mr. Sam!! Keep inspiring us all who watch you!!
I just want to say how much I love the dedication to keeping the spirit of the former owner present, from the colouring, the sign, and down to copying the design best as you can.
If you want to tune them, there is a Excell calculator on how long they should be, when you take the diameter, material and inner hole diameters, and also the hole where you hang them has to be at 22,7% of the end, there the resonance point is always, no matter what length. But probably is not a tubular bell, but a glockenspiel, no? Anyway, I feel like Sam, all at once, and then again, noting is certain!!! Go, you nutty professor!!! Regards from Belgium, or is it?
They sound in tune enough to me :) cheers tho!
Mike Oldfield _he_ had no computer, Mum.
Only a Grand Piano, Reed and Pipe Organ, Glockenspiel,Bass Guitar, Double Speed Guitar, two slightly Distorted Guitars, Mandolin, Spanish and Acoustic Guitar and some Tubular Bells.
At least until he got himself a fairlight 😂
@@cpt_nordbart ah, an aficionado, I see.
@@cpt_nordbart ISTR Mike had a problem getting his bells to sound out over the rest of the instruments as well. Not too surprising given everything playing at the end!
@@cpt_nordbart best comment 😂
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On that note, there's a great scene in Dark Star when one of the crew is playing a bottle organ piece that sounds great.
What's next? Slightly distorted guitar, or mandolin?😂 narrated by John Cleese
gotta go with the original Viv Stanshall
YES! Mind you I preferred Alan Rickman’s version 😂
The rocking back and forth is not only causing extra notes but also skipped notes. Maybe mount the beaters higher up where the rocking movements aren't as extreme, it will alter the sound a bit but give much more consistent articulation. Commercial tubular bells are actually played at the top anyway. They also have some sort of guard at the height where the beaters are attached now. Somehow they manage for it to only slightly dampen the sound.
7:40 Reminded me a bit the OST for the game "Alice: Madness Returns"
*YOUR SET UP IS BECOMING AMAZING* I can see musicians renting this out for far out productions
You have to make a homage to the late Maxi Jazz. and recreated the first 25 sec of the song INSOMNIA. you have the bells, the clocks, the synths amd the talent to make this happen. It would be so sick, The original album version - Faithless - Reverence. 1997 - Song 6
The mallets should be hitting on the node of the wavelength of the oscillator for max sustain and tonal clarity.
I copied the dimensions on the images of
It's fitment prior. Whether he knew the node or not. Fate decides
Opening time:
"Hey mate, welcome in".
Mate: "I heard you had some tubular bells"
"Yes, we do. You play them?"
"Yep, made an album or two called after them, in fact".
"OMG!!! IT'S MIKE OLDFIELD!!!"
" . . . um, yep"
... and nothing was ever heard from him again, except for the sound of tubular bells.
The A frame bits are called gussets.
Thank you for playing Tubular Bells. That thought was bouncing around my head the whole time.
Totally tubular! Now you need to invite Mike Oldfield so he can sign off on that.
I guess it was too predictable, but no Mike Oldfield? Seems like you pretty much have everything needed to play Tubular Bells.
I don’t think you listened to the whole thing…
@@MykiVonFerro I think you've missed the joke...
This video was BRISKLY PACED! Ideal editing.
Restorer, curator, absolute madman. 👏👏👏 Are you also the owner of all of these beautiful creations? And how much room to grow does ‘this museum is not obsolete have’? Because things seem to be getting ‘out of hand’ in the best way possible. Time to ask Mr. Frank Gehry to perform his ‘Magnum Opus’ maybe, would not harm Ramsgate at all probably…makes it a real touristic standout 😊🥰
Great to see you at OhSoRetro! Thanks for saying Hi, it was nice to meet you 👍
you can play tubular bells and christmas songs on the organ
I love how you say "hardware store"! 2:45
Would moving the whole beater assembly closer to the top of the tubes reduce the amount the tubes swing?
Looks good, sounds a bit harsh. When I was making windchimes, I found through research if they are hung at 2/9ths their length, you get mainly the tone rather than the impact sound. Probably don't want to drill holes in this set, but if you ever work with tubes like these again, might help the sound
Uneducated idea: keep the bells from swinging out of control by adding rubber stoppers between them right at their second node to minimize interference
Um....not sure if anyone has commented.....but they sound fking awful....my neighbours windchill sounds better!!!....as a percussionist....and organist....if the hammers were mounted so they were striking the top rim it would sound more like the classic organ cathedral chimes.....also reduce the ridiculous amount of swing
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER - If the hammers were positioned nearer the top of the tubes they would swing less when struck. 👍
your american accent is funny
HARDWARE STORE lol
Oh no! Sam summoned Linda Blair!
Lol, it's so strange. 2020: Spotify recommended a weird album with a funny cover: old mackintosh with eyes. The music is really cool. 2024: I moved to the UK, and can check this tubular thing live even before the video on this channel release. What a time to be alive. Thanks for the museum, it's super awesome, I'll come back to play with all the knobs and keys again!
Off to listen to you-know-what... TOOOB UU LEHR BEHLS
at least it sounds horrible at 8:17 looking forward to hear it once its running perfectly :)
Sounds nice already
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER It is good that I have proof of melodic deficiency, 5 years of music school in my youth and still not able of playing a instrument or keeping rhythm!
Percussionist here:
Did you try hitting the tubes more at the top?
"ordinary" tubular bells have a cap on the top where you hit in a bout a 45° angle with the hammers.
these are open so dunno if the still sound full when hit more at the top portion.
if they sound almost the same at the top, maybe reposition the beaters. that way they should stop swinging.
#edit#
saw your pinned comment :D
another fabulous bit of history saved, well done Sam. What you're doing saving these British eccentrics life works is just fab, and mate, you made me chuckle (and rewind) when you said "from the hardware store" in that voice, seriously silly maaaaaan, keep up the fantastic work.
Sam, thank you for being you. Have you ever given thought to providing services for clients sending in MIDI files for you to record on the museum gear and getting files in return? What would you charge?
psyche rock! psyche rock!
Sam you are as always doing amazing things with some lovely old equipment and adapting it so nicely , its great to know all this kit is in safe hands to be used and where needed updated and displayed for all to see thank you
Sam, I'm still literally laughing at the for hume the bell tolls! You're awesome! Doing amazing stuff and bringing back to life all instruments the world needs to see!
If you had longer hooks and shorter strings, would that help with the tubes moving
The whole video was british but the "Hardware Store" was from Madison, Wisconsin for some reason
That vibraphone is still my favorite, it reminds me for some reason of The Tales of Moss and Fern (Pohádky z mechu a kapradí). Holy wow, wait I think it was the episode about that lady that felt constantly too hot. There was this ethereal sound there somewhere I think. Mind you I have no idea how brain makes that connection, I haven't seen that cartoon in at least 20 years... I wonder how they made the soundtrack to that cartoon.
Hey Sam! Do you offer a service where you can email in your Midi files, and then you charge X amount of quids ££ per bar to record all that Midied up electro-mechanical gear?
did you manage to repair the recorder for the speakers that had one blown up channel?
Still waiting for the replacement pcb from thomann
I used to work with an engineer at the BBC who had 2 sheds, I used to call him 2 sheds after the Monty Python character Arthur 2 Sheds Jackson. Very talented engineer, so I suspect there was some wisdom in him having 2 sheds. He lived in Preston though, so not sure how wise he was.
That’s awesome! I’m definitely getting animusic vibes!
Woah. 😮 I get these weird XMas vibes when I hear those bells. 😊
How about the theme song from The Falcon and the Snowman?
When hearing those leslies on their own @ 7:18 It kinda makes me think of Kraftwerk or the starting segment of on the run by pink floyd
Reminds of the Pat Methenys Orchestration project. If you can do a video creating a midi guitar or keyboard that sampled real instruments in real time that would be pandemonium
A simple solution for your problem of the front beaters hitting the swinging back tubes: Make the stick of the front beaters out of brass rod and bend them into a curve. This will make room for the back tubes to swing freely.
4:55 "Then you do it again" is the overarching theme of this channel.
Also, "sensually cutting" made me laugh.
Delightfully insane, far out. We creative types are always a bit mad, myself I'm trying for eccentric & a bit unhinged.
One of the coolest use of Tubular bells in it's intro:
The Silverbelly's - Santa Comes Tonight (Peter Paul Pigmans aka 3 steps Ahead, one of the most respected artist in it's day, RIP.)
Gives Chicken skin!
You should use a CD40106, take 3 inverters from the package, connect them in series and place a RC constant or capacitor and resistor (to drain) in between the first 2 to get a accurate repeatable timed trigger. the Schmidt mechanism helps a lot. you can fine tune the cap and resistor. using 1nF and some 18K is about 1 Milli second, calculators online.
Now it sticks and can reduce the sound, it seems also pushing the tubes to the side, you want a fast strike.
I think you should put the beaters a bit up higher.
Read the pinned comment :)
The tubes on the one we had a school had end caps, if i remember correctly and you played by striking the top edge of the tube with a pig skin mallet
the actuator "dwell time" seems to be moving the tubes around by itself, can the controller change the envelope? from what i understand of other solenoid instruments the drivers usually use a higher voltage and a current limit after a short amount of time, to really get them flying and make the strike sharp and distinct
I’m old and worn out now, but back in the day my friends said I was a mad genius for all my electronic music projects. And honestly, my entire life’s work is kind of like your average Tuesday! Thanks again for the inspired insanity of your musical genius!!
Mr "Two Sheds" Stockdale, as they called him.
This is kind of brilliant. And it's neat to see not only some musical history relevant to your part of the world being preserved, but kept alive with new life. That museum sounds like a neat place to go to.
I’d love to see parts of Tubular Bells Part 1 by Mike oldfield covered with this.
u sound like å sportvommentator.. dont. just, b u.b Real
You fallen out with me or summat Sam, ain't seen my name at the end for ages 😢
Would it be appropriate to add some way to keep the bells from balancing too far away from their hammer's impact point?
Maybe something like a loosely set string a the bottom of each bell?
fudging love it sam, delightfully, endearingly bonkers 😜
I built a pentatonic wind chime out of an old aluminum lawn chair. I found an online chart that gives tube length and hang points. I think it really helps to not hang them from the very top. The sustain is much longer.
Have you thought of wiring them to te visitor counter? Too bad the westminster chime has already been played hahah
How about changing the heads to balsa wood? Soft but still wood so sound between wood and felt.... Maybe..❤
I was on holiday in Norfolk and visited Caister Castle, there they have a large cinema organ and I was thinking I wonder what Sam would do with that 😂
see if you can link your chime to Mobel and some paddles. This could be great fun for bell ringers.
You’re a mad genius!
Oh shit you’ve made the music from salad finger 😂😂😂😂
This setup would make for an outstanding movie soundtrack
Maybe the felt was backwards because it's not there to hit the bell, but to mute the neighbouring one when it swings too much?
Definitely play headwigs theme!
What's that?
my fave vid of yrs in a long time, really cool. i love how diy the bells are, shortcomings and all. i guess fast tempo is a problem too because the bells will still be swinging as they receive the next note? your whole midi to solenoid scheme is so rad
The bells we had at school used a pig skin mallet as a striker, it would mellow the sound a bit from the metal on metal.
Can you raise the hammers to hit the bells higher to help minimize the rocking. I want to say in band they would hit the bells with mallets at the top edge.
I like that you just kind of smoothly transitioned from announcer guy voice to regular Sam voice during the montage. 😅
Sounds a lot like Hidden Orchestra :)
The other way to help with the beater collision would be to make curved beaters
I think the beaters are hitting a bit hard causing the tubes to swing
With the coil energised there should be a small gap between beater and tube, the beater should bounce when operated, much like a piano hammer.
beaters ☺ a long line of beaters even
Interesting video 2x👍
Curved arms for the beaters might mean you don't need to fully disassemble it.
Also possibly stagger the bells so that the outer one is set more to the right of the inner one.
I absolutely love the sound of the vibraphone.
Thank god you played that.. All is still right with the world.
The beaters with nothing to beat made me smile. Not sure why. 😊
You need to move the mallets up so they don’t have so much effect on the movement of the bells for better timing
You need to move the mallets up so they don’t have so much effect on the movement of the bells for better timing
I was waiting for a Mike Oldfield reference.
So beautiful, how ingenious. I love this.
Anyone else notice the 3rd from bottom bar is off the chrsoglott at 7:45 ?
Is the "then you do it again, then you do it again, then you do it again!" in the sample pack on your patreon?
You're my favorite mad scientist