arcueid playing creative mode with earth layers using her marbel phantasm doing as she please it like a deities divine authority but way stronger with no limits.
I really hope they completely flesh out all of the Dead Apostles Ancestors. For most we only know there names, and an example of what they can do, but nothing after that. Little info on Reality Marbles, magecraft, weapons, or feats.
Arcuied is so strong, that it's not even fair! This is why we need the other 27 Dead Apostles on the new Melty Blood game. At least those guys stand a freaking chance!
Kinda, let's separate the Melty Blood manga of Nanaya Shiki (Tohno Shiki but a double made without the MEODP) He made Arcueid Brunestud go on full power to just defeat Nanaya.... with just his skills alone with that personality. I'd recommend searching more info on him.
Surprised none of the mage's ever talk about it hmm for those not in the know The Wondering Sea main base operates as with Magecraft related to both Marble phantasm and Reality Marble
The Mages of The Wondering Sea are probably the only ones outside of certain Servants and Ancients that really know enough to see how it is different from a Reality Marble which is already seen as a near godlike spell to most mages.
@@murilopenagoncalves3831 not to go against them but should be the textbook example of Reality Marble and why they're omitted from the taboo of RM likely them being around before the Taboo
@@murilopenagoncalves3831 the Clocktower is the current head of Magecraft development and at one point in time has made Reality Marble Taboo Magecraft aka it's illegal to have said spell on you of course it's got to be the whole spell you can still use piece or aspect of it.
Reality Marbles are my favorite kind of Noble Phantasm in the Fate series Unlimited Blade Works is cool because of it changing appearances between Shiro and Archer. And I love Iskander's Reality Marble (I'm sorry, but I know I'm gonna butcher the name) because it gives him his entire army that he created during his life.
@@Lobomaru02 Arcuied isn't a servant. "But FGO doh" No dude it's not a noble phantasm lol. Arc being a servant is just fanservice and makes no sense considering how the heroic spirit system works.
@@r.k845 "Arcuied is an avatar of earth. I have no idea why earth would let arc be summoned as a servant when humanity is the planets enemy" Well that argument would classify her as a BEAST in her full power. BEASTs do have a precident of being summoned as Servants/Counter-Guardians for a restrained manifestation,Tamamo-no-Mae, Sessyoin Kiara, and Karna are three easy examples, so to stand against a threat like The White Giant Zephyr, Outer Gods, or the Alien God it makes perfect sense that she could be summoned to fight a greater enemy, or even to set up the destruction of Humanity, if her full power could be called upon without special restrictions beyond a spell/ritual she could perform at will.
It would be great to discuss Satsuki Yumizuka's reality marble Depletion Garden which ExtremeSMsnpig did a video on her story. Still waiting for Farside Red Garden vn to come soon.
I mean, if Viy really wanted to probably. But in Anastasia’s profile it said Viy uses it to play small pranks on people, like making something someone was holding suddenly disappear or tripping them
@@abbadon9693 A better analogy would the World being the ocean, and the Reality Marble user would be an air bender in the sea bed creating an air pocket to live. The Marble Phantasm user, who's power is to manipulate the ocean, can't use his power in the air pocket because there's no water manipulate with.
@@rampagepotato4307 It could be argued The Marble Phantasm user could still use their power as the components for water would still be their and just need time to force it back into a liquid state in your analogy.
@@truekurayami The thing is the ability of the Marble Phantasm user is strictly manipulating the ocean, and since there is no ocean inside that air pocket, he can't manipulate anything inside it and could only rely on his own power. That's why Reality Marble users hard counters Marble Phantasms. The best way to defeat those who can manipulate the World is to cut them off from it.
I found that annoying back with OG tsuki, both Fate and Tsuki were comparatively the same powerwise except arc who was always just op. But in older interviews Nasu stated that in a fight, Shiki and Shirou both would be equally matched, he would kill Shirou‘s projections and Shirou would use his superior close combat skills to try and defeat Shiki to the point where Shirou would die from Mana exhaustion and Shiki from overusing his mystic eyes. Now I can‘t see Shirou winning in any way at all.
I'm almost finished watching the anime adaptation and it's good (to me) but I can tell that something's missing or mashed up together that shouldn't be. I'm on ep 11 right now.
And on the other hand we have Phantasmoon teaming up with Kaleido Ruby Rin unable to defeat Illya/ muddy grail-kun so they joth use Marble Phantasm to summon a giant Neco-Arc (and doom the whole world in the process) . Sauce: Carnival Phantasm
Aren't marble phantasms supposed to only enact things that are theoretically possible as well as lack the ability to act directly on things outside of Gaia such as humans and man made objects? IIRC the difference between reality marbles and marble phantasms is explained in that if both were used to pick a black marble out of a jar of white marbles, the marble phantasm would make it so the outcome in which the marble taken is the black one already present happens while the reality marble would turn all the marbles black. Reality marbles are obviously limited by the specific rules that shape it and its pocket dimension nature has pros and cons but I just don't feel like the rules and limitations of marble phantasms are being conveyed very well.
@@dumpsterplayer5133 The explanations I encountered before gave the impression that humans and human made constructs were outside Gaia's domain and therefore couldn't be directly acted upon by Gaia. So basically you could use a marble phantasm to manipulate nature but not a building and would have to use nature to kill a human instead of just willing them to die. It's a bit like how explanations of the counterforce get a bit confusing when it goes from describing Gaia and Alaya having their own versions of it and then later describing something associated with one as part of the other like there's no difference. Stuff like that makes untangling nasuverse lore needlessly confusing and frustrating on top of hunting down the info across so many sources to begin with.
@@dumpsterplayer5133 Humans and even ones with non human ancestry have to pretty deliberately depart from their humanity to go from Alaya to Gaia. While they're still connected and have mutual goals, a big part of the separation was that Gaia couldn't use humanity the way it can other beings still in its domain and that humanity lost influence over Gaia's domain when they left it. That makes allowing elementals and stuff to manipulate the realm of Alaya even with more difficulty seem like overstepping what should be a firm limitation of their abilities. For the counterforce thing, I was referring to stuff like how FGO made heroic spirits part of Gaia's counterforce as part of its plot, which doesn't make much sense for a number of reasons. The most relevant reasons here being that most of them are human or human derived and would therefore be in Alaya's domain. There's also that Gaia has a whole thing about wanting humans dead and using its counterforce to do so. On the topic of humanity's relationship with the planet, I don't think the series does a good job explaining how daemons and the imaginary element tie into the world and how creating beings by imagining them into existence affects their nature. It seems like humanity created divine spirits and elementals this way but it's also a defining aspect of how daemons come into existence. Then there's how useless the term demon is at explaining what something is because it's used to describe so many different things. Basically what I'm getting at is that the nasuverse gets too caught up in throwing ideas around without doing a good job presenting them clearly and coherently. Some of this stuff gets plot relevant and the abilities and limitations of things is often important to shape expectations of what people are capable of within the setting. It's something the series really needs to get better at doing.
@@Genji-Agito Right. I doubt it, since it is said that Brunestud of the crimson moon would have won, if he had bothered to understand and anticipate magic.
If there is Gaia, why is there a need for Acrued Brunestud to exist...and more importantly, why is there a need for her to be archtype earth? Just for cute waifu material or this there a more important purpose?
arcueid playing creative mode with earth layers using her marbel phantasm doing as she please it like a deities divine authority but way stronger with no limits.
and tohno sliced her like a bread
@@Vins_.Yet we all know in a direct fight she'd clap him viciously
this is why kiritsugu was hurt by marbles
Oh, I got a good laugh from reading that.
these shots from the remake LOOK SO DAMN FINE
I really hope they completely flesh out all of the Dead Apostles Ancestors. For most we only know there names, and an example of what they can do, but nothing after that. Little info on Reality Marbles, magecraft, weapons, or feats.
The remake gives me hope because we got silhouettes for a good chunk of them.
>prank level
>Crack Earth's surface
What
Arcuied is so strong, that it's not even fair! This is why we need the other 27 Dead Apostles on the new Melty Blood game. At least those guys stand a freaking chance!
Kinda, let's separate the Melty Blood manga of Nanaya Shiki (Tohno Shiki but a double made without the MEODP) He made Arcueid Brunestud go on full power to just defeat Nanaya.... with just his skills alone with that personality. I'd recommend searching more info on him.
Surprised none of the mage's ever talk about it hmm for those not in the know The Wondering Sea main base operates as with Magecraft related to both Marble phantasm and Reality Marble
Some may talk about it, but what can they do? No everyone is crazy like Roa to go against a literal goddess.
The Mages of The Wondering Sea are probably the only ones outside of certain Servants and Ancients that really know enough to see how it is different from a Reality Marble which is already seen as a near godlike spell to most mages.
@@murilopenagoncalves3831 not to go against them but should be the textbook example of Reality Marble and why they're omitted from the taboo of RM likely them being around before the Taboo
@@tonyinfinite5174 Before the taboo? Sorry, I missed your point.
@@murilopenagoncalves3831 the Clocktower is the current head of Magecraft development and at one point in time has made Reality Marble Taboo Magecraft aka it's illegal to have said spell on you of course it's got to be the whole spell you can still use piece or aspect of it.
Reality Marbles are my favorite kind of Noble Phantasm in the Fate series
Unlimited Blade Works is cool because of it changing appearances between Shiro and Archer.
And I love Iskander's Reality Marble (I'm sorry, but I know I'm gonna butcher the name) because it gives him his entire army that he created during his life.
It's not a noble phantasm my dude
@@Lobomaru02 Arcuied isn't a servant.
"But FGO doh"
No dude it's not a noble phantasm lol. Arc being a servant is just fanservice and makes no sense considering how the heroic spirit system works.
@@Lobomaru02 Arcuied is an avatar of earth. I have no idea why earth would let arc be summoned as a servant when humanity is the planets enemy.
@@Lobomaru02 Wasn't that just proper human history?
@@r.k845 "Arcuied is an avatar of earth. I have no idea why earth would let arc be summoned as a servant when humanity is the planets enemy" Well that argument would classify her as a BEAST in her full power. BEASTs do have a precident of being summoned as Servants/Counter-Guardians for a restrained manifestation,Tamamo-no-Mae, Sessyoin Kiara, and Karna are three easy examples, so to stand against a threat like The White Giant Zephyr, Outer Gods, or the Alien God it makes perfect sense that she could be summoned to fight a greater enemy, or even to set up the destruction of Humanity, if her full power could be called upon without special restrictions beyond a spell/ritual she could perform at will.
It would be great to discuss Satsuki Yumizuka's reality marble Depletion Garden which ExtremeSMsnpig did a video on her story. Still waiting for Farside Red Garden vn to come soon.
1:06 wait that damn doll an pull of magic like that
I mean, if Viy really wanted to probably. But in Anastasia’s profile it said Viy uses it to play small pranks on people, like making something someone was holding suddenly disappear or tripping them
Its implied that Viy cant do anything lethal tho
At the very moment when Viy was called, Aniplex went:
The fk! Play FGO Ad! Go! Go! Go!!!
Imagine turning fire into water..... changing earth's atmospheric composition
Your videos are better than drugs
So what happens when you put a marble phantasm user into a reality marble?
@@abbadon9693 A better analogy would the World being the ocean, and the Reality Marble user would be an air bender in the sea bed creating an air pocket to live.
The Marble Phantasm user, who's power is to manipulate the ocean, can't use his power in the air pocket because there's no water manipulate with.
@@rampagepotato4307 It could be argued The Marble Phantasm user could still use their power as the components for water would still be their and just need time to force it back into a liquid state in your analogy.
@@truekurayami The thing is the ability of the Marble Phantasm user is strictly manipulating the ocean, and since there is no ocean inside that air pocket, he can't manipulate anything inside it and could only rely on his own power.
That's why Reality Marble users hard counters Marble Phantasms. The best way to defeat those who can manipulate the World is to cut them off from it.
They can do so much with fate series good video always I want to know more about reality marbles to
FINAL ATTACK FORM RIDE: M-M-MARBLE PHANTASM!
Thanks for this.
8:45 Did the remake bump up everyone's power levels or something?
Yup
By a lot to match with Fgo
It sure did
I found that annoying back with OG tsuki, both Fate and Tsuki were comparatively the same powerwise except arc who was always just op.
But in older interviews Nasu stated that in a fight, Shiki and Shirou both would be equally matched, he would kill Shirou‘s projections and Shirou would use his superior close combat skills to try and defeat Shiki to the point where Shirou would die from Mana exhaustion and Shiki from overusing his mystic eyes.
Now I can‘t see Shirou winning in any way at all.
@@ebering4.039 How did they buff Shiki?
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO EXPLAIN THIS!
Don't sleep on angra mainyu video
Dope video
I'm almost finished watching the anime adaptation and it's good (to me) but I can tell that something's missing or mashed up together that shouldn't be. I'm on ep 11 right now.
You just now watching the anime I been finished really
@@QuintrellDemary I was curious about tsukihime and I was being too lazy to watch it. I've only dwelled in this franchise for two yrs
We don't talk about that adaptation
There is no tsukihime anime
The anime is crappie
My boy when is “Don’t sleep in Ciel” dropping?
Now where's my Holy Grail I won!?
Man for years we were made to believe reality marble and marble phantasm were one and the same
And on the other hand we have Phantasmoon teaming up with Kaleido Ruby Rin unable to defeat Illya/ muddy grail-kun so they joth use Marble Phantasm to summon a giant Neco-Arc (and doom the whole world in the process)
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Sauce: Carnival Phantasm
So she's a Reality Warper... I wonder would with out of her or Adult Franklin Richards?
thoughts on type-moon “vs” content? (e.g. shirou v tohno, tohno v ryougi, etc.)
Apples vs Oranges. TM comes down to compatibility 100% of the time.
The characters in fate will merk Goku
Aren't marble phantasms supposed to only enact things that are theoretically possible as well as lack the ability to act directly on things outside of Gaia such as humans and man made objects? IIRC the difference between reality marbles and marble phantasms is explained in that if both were used to pick a black marble out of a jar of white marbles, the marble phantasm would make it so the outcome in which the marble taken is the black one already present happens while the reality marble would turn all the marbles black. Reality marbles are obviously limited by the specific rules that shape it and its pocket dimension nature has pros and cons but I just don't feel like the rules and limitations of marble phantasms are being conveyed very well.
@@dumpsterplayer5133 The explanations I encountered before gave the impression that humans and human made constructs were outside Gaia's domain and therefore couldn't be directly acted upon by Gaia. So basically you could use a marble phantasm to manipulate nature but not a building and would have to use nature to kill a human instead of just willing them to die.
It's a bit like how explanations of the counterforce get a bit confusing when it goes from describing Gaia and Alaya having their own versions of it and then later describing something associated with one as part of the other like there's no difference.
Stuff like that makes untangling nasuverse lore needlessly confusing and frustrating on top of hunting down the info across so many sources to begin with.
@@dumpsterplayer5133 Humans and even ones with non human ancestry have to pretty deliberately depart from their humanity to go from Alaya to Gaia. While they're still connected and have mutual goals, a big part of the separation was that Gaia couldn't use humanity the way it can other beings still in its domain and that humanity lost influence over Gaia's domain when they left it.
That makes allowing elementals and stuff to manipulate the realm of Alaya even with more difficulty seem like overstepping what should be a firm limitation of their abilities.
For the counterforce thing, I was referring to stuff like how FGO made heroic spirits part of Gaia's counterforce as part of its plot, which doesn't make much sense for a number of reasons. The most relevant reasons here being that most of them are human or human derived and would therefore be in Alaya's domain. There's also that Gaia has a whole thing about wanting humans dead and using its counterforce to do so.
On the topic of humanity's relationship with the planet, I don't think the series does a good job explaining how daemons and the imaginary element tie into the world and how creating beings by imagining them into existence affects their nature.
It seems like humanity created divine spirits and elementals this way but it's also a defining aspect of how daemons come into existence. Then there's how useless the term demon is at explaining what something is because it's used to describe so many different things.
Basically what I'm getting at is that the nasuverse gets too caught up in throwing ideas around without doing a good job presenting them clearly and coherently. Some of this stuff gets plot relevant and the abilities and limitations of things is often important to shape expectations of what people are capable of within the setting. It's something the series really needs to get better at doing.
7 great beast vs true dead apostal and true ansecorts
I plan to so I won't be spoiled
what will happen when iskandar and emiya counter guardian use their noble phanthasm will it be like domain expansion?
What about the weird field around ORT
Can you continue your dont sleep on series?
Greetings from Germany. I really enjoy listening to your videos, if you ever happen to come to Germany, you got a couple free beers on me :-)
Since anti-world NPs are weapons that target to the world itself, could any of them break or at least damage a marble phantasm?
nope
anti world means the NP could "affect" the world, not destroying it
Media vs Arcueid
If you meant Medea then Arcueid slams
If you meant Media then Arcueid lost
What the différents she the same personne
Off topic, but could zouken take on architype earth? I. Mean he DID beat her father ssssooooooooo.............😕
What? Do you mean Zelrech?
@@pena6819 FUCK, I mispelled his name. How embarrassing.
Yes, I do
@@Genji-Agito Right. I doubt it, since it is said that Brunestud of the crimson moon would have won, if he had bothered to understand and anticipate magic.
@@pena6819 damn, with proper prep, humanity would be royally screwed.
Can you plz make a vid about gil vs arc
Nice vids btw
Oof
First!!!!!
If there is Gaia, why is there a need for Acrued Brunestud to exist...and more importantly, why is there a need for her to be archtype earth? Just for cute waifu material or this there a more important purpose?