Really informative. I like the arrangement of patterns - increasing energy, and the top/bottom row. Really clear and gives a visual reference too. Thank you.
Now this is where I can lend a fraction of advice to you for all the advice I’ve learned from your videos. an octotrack vs a digitakt would help you immensely with trying to create a full performance of multiple jams. The octotracks cross fader and sample/loop functions with its thru machines and pickup machines, allow you to sample a loop of your current jam while you load a secondary jam project. You still have access to effecting the loop with parameter changes as well as being able to bring in your secondary jam like a dj mixes tracks.
Thanks Devin!! Really appreciate that advice and it's a very good tip. I heard of the Octa being capable of that and that actually makes it quite interesting for me. Let's see what the future holds. ;)
Hey Miles, danke für das großartige Video. Ich erkunde diese Art Musik zu machen erst seit ganz kurzem und habe mit dem Digitakt angefangen. Da fuchse ich mich noch rein, habe aber nach deinen Digitone Videos schon immer ein Auge auf das Gerät geworfen. Jetzt die Videos zu der Kombo... absolut perfekt für mich. Ich habe schon viel gelernt und bin gespannt was sich so herauszaubern lässt. Deine Musik ist auf jeden Fall die größte Inspiration. Danke!
Hey Jan, vielen Dank dir für das tolle Feedback! Freut mich sehr zu hören, dass die Videos gerade so gut passen und dich inspirieren! Der Digitakt alleine ist auch schon extrem stark, wenn du da noch nach Content suchst, schau mal bei meinen Buddys 59 Perlen und Atlas Castle vorbei - die haben da richtig coole Jams und Tutorials Digitakt only. Aber die Kombo macht schon extrem viel Spaß, das kann ich dir sagen. :) Cheers!
Hey Andy, thanks a bunch for the hint! Definitely planned sometime in the future! :) Did you already watch my first livestream? Here I make a Digitone jam from scratch: ruclips.net/video/P25LqBIlf9U/видео.html
Thank you so much! This was exactly what I was looking for, I want to learn to make longer sets of music on my Digitakt and your explanation is so insightful!
You're welcome, Andrea! I'm so happy to hear that the video is helpful for your work with the Digitakt. Thanks for your great feedback - the second video of this tutorial series will be out this Friday, if you're interested! :)
@@MilesKvndra yes I'm waiting for it! 🤗🤗🙃 So great how you explain everything in detail I gonna practice your aprouch this week. I'm looking forward for your tutorial! Many thanks ❤
Thanks so much my friend! I'm really happy to hear that you dig the insights as I know you're an absolute Digitakt pro! The Digitone could really add to your overall sound and I think you'd get some great sounds out of it. Have a lovely day, mate! 🙏💚
It's clear and precise as usual, well done! I don't have DT, it helps me to think about it,… But I’m afraid of not having enough time to manage my modular stuff, which is still my favorite way… Thank you for this video 👍👏
Hey Clo, thanks for reaching out and the great feedback - appreciate it! 🙂 Yeah I know what you mean and you should definitely keep this up, your modular is great! :)
Great video Miles, I really like the way you organize the two machines tonal duties. My wife always says put things back in the same place and you know where to find find them...lol Good stuff!
Thanks for the video. Very helpful and I'm looking forward to watching the other 2 videos, yet for some reason seeing the digitone on the left hurts my brain.
Cheers Stephen, I appreciate that feedback a lot! Let me know how you like the other videos. And yeah haha, I hear this a lot - just started like this and now I go with it. Although it makes me a little bit of an outsider as most people have the Digitakt on the left. 😁 Have a great weekend!
Cheers Arnaud! Yeah I'm currently collecting transition ideas from my past jams and can't wait to work on this. Happy to hear that you find the video inspiring! :)
Thanks a lot, Michael! That really means a lot and I appreciate your ongoing support! 🙏🏻 Hope this video (and the upcoming ones) will help - happy Sunday!
Enjoyed the video mate. Very well and thoroughly explained. I'd be interested in seeing your process after jamming (EQ/mastering). It is something I'm struggling with / still learning. I was listening to your tracks on Spotify and they sound wide and lush :) keep up the great work. Cheers
Cheers Nevik and thanks so much for your feedback! Appreciate to hear that you like the sound! :) Yeah, a video on the whole mastering process in Ozone 9 is definitely planned for the future, but I need to find a good way for sharp screenrecordings on my PC first. But it's planned! :) Cheers
Hey Smo Kin, that's an awesome combo too! Can imagine the Syntakt + Digitone working great together - and awesome to hear that my videos are also useful for Syntakt users. Cheers! 🙌🏻
Hey Peter, thanks for the tip! Yeah I'll think about sounddesign techniques, maybe not for this series, but in another format! :) Glad you like the video!!
Hi Miles! Thanks for the good thoughts on this particular setup. I plan to create and play live sets with this combo. The hardest thing for me is to design smooth TRANSITIONS between the parts of one jam or transition from one track to another. Would be great to hear you thoughts and tricks you've discovered on that!
Hey Anton, thanks for reaching out and for the great input! I'm currently planning the video on performance techniques and there will definitely be some points about transitions between different parts and how I set these up. Regarding transitions between tracks, I'm still looking for a way to make these transitions as smooth as possible. My plan right now is to create enough jams on this combo for a live set and once I have all of them together, I'll be looking for ways to connect them to make a smooth live set. Once this is done some time in the future this will definitely be worth another video!
Thanks for the great input, David! I've to say that I don't use the soundpool on the Digitakt that much, but I definitely do it on the Digitone! Here I have one bank where I just have my own sounds created on the synths, which I mostly also put in the soundpool. Cheers!
Sehr interessant Miles..! Freu mich schon auf das nächste video! Die "transition-patterns" jeweils eins drunter zu legen werd ich Dir gerne stehlen wenn ich darf ;)
Thanks for sharing. I’m also using those two machines - pretty much exclusively atm. One thing I also like to add is a tiny bit of distortion on the DN. It affects the master out so both the DN and DT and it makes for a subtle but decent compression on the stereo sum. Looking forward to the next videos.
Hey even mind, thanks a bunch for the comment! Regarding the drive on the DN master page I tried this too and I've seen Ivar doing it in his video as well, but as soon as I add the slightest amount of drive (value 1-2) the signal gets super squashed and I have the feeling that I'm loosing all my dynamics. Did you experience something similar?
@@MilesKvndra yeah the distortion value is "scaled" a little weird. First, there´s an audible jump from 0.00 to 0.01 (like an off/on switch really). Second, it starts distorting very quickly even with very low values, while the in between higher values there´s isn´t such a big change anymore. I mostly have it set to just above 0.00, so 0.01 to maybe 1.00 max. To my ears there isn´t too much squashing there but I shall have a closer listen next time.
@@evenmind-music thanks for sharing the thoughts and insights! I think my channels already have a lot of drive, that could be the reason why the master drive is affecting the signal so strong. But will give it another try - or just go with the Analogue Heat in the future. 😁
Brilliant! So excited for this thanks so much. Really would like to learn more about how to develop and structure jams and have fun performing live - also how to get good levels thanks 🙏
Thank you, I really appreciate your great feedback! I think with structure and live performing I'll have you covered in the next videos planned, but have nothing planned about levels right now: Do you mean the levels of all the different tracks and gain staging? Cheers!
Yes techniques for gainstaging levels and maybe other techniques such as eq or panning of tracks to best combine the unique sounds of these 2 wonderful instruments. Sometimes I find it hard to blend especially the low end. Thanks😀
@@peacefulpigeon7254 gotcha! I think some of this I already cover in my next video, but I'm thinking about doing a more in depth tutorial on that. Thanks! 🙌🏻
Great explanation as always! Really looking forward to your planned liveset! If you want to challenge yourself, make it as a livestream at primetime 😉. I think this could be really nice!
Thanks Steppi and cheers! Happy to hear that you like it! :) Yeah looking forward to that too!! But I'll need at least five jams to kick this off and would love to do that via a livestream! 😍 But first I need the right technical equipment to get a livestream like this going.
Hey Miles, I'm excited about this tutorial série 😊 viel Erfolg 🙌. If there is no option to trigger the fill for both synths with a single page button, then maybe try sending a feature request to Elektron, they could implement it in the next update 😉
Cheers Adil and thanks a bunch - happy to hear your thoughts about it and hope this helps! Yeah should do that haha - currently collecting things I'm missing about this combo. 😁
@@MilesKvndra Very helpful! I’ve watched all three videos in this series and I definitely learned some new techniques. Did you ever figure out a solution to trigger “fill mode” on both Digi’s w/o having to press both buttons?
@@brian-lc no never figured that out unfortunately. There might be a way of remapping MIDI cc messages to trigger fill on both devices but I never went in so deep. At some point I was used to pressing it on both devices and just went with it.
Excited by this series - perfect timing as just planning some live performances with restrictions easing. Nice to see how someone else is organizing a set. Are you using any techniques to sidechain the digitone?
Thank you! I think I would have added a Syntakt to the duo to take care of some additional percussion sounds and especially to layer melodic sounds from the Digitone. Now my Moogs and Ableton are taking care of that which works really nicely as well :)
I love the level of nerdiness here, Im gonna need some more video like these. I cant afford any of these, so I just sit back and study everything about these small boxes with bright lights. Do these boxes take input from outside source like multi pedal boards? My fetish is to mix analog with digital in every way possible.
Thanks a bunch man - appreciate your kind feedback. Not sure about multi pedal boards, the boxes each have 2 stereo inputs and 2 stereo outs but you can also just use those as 2 separate mono channels. Then you also have MIDI in, out and through and also audio/midi via USB - so quite a lot of flexibility to hook them up. In the beginning I only used the stereo channels but now I'm also using a lot of the MIDI channels and USB to hook the machines up with Ableton as well. :)
Hi Miles another great video that is very useful for me. I wanted to know if there is a way that when I change the pattern on the digitakt it also changes the pattern on the digitone. For example, when I go from pattern 1 to 9 on the digitakt, the digitone will do the same without having to change it on the digitione.
Hey Sebastian, thanks for the feedback! Yes there is a way to set this up in the options - I'm not entirely sure where but I think Ivar Tryti covered this in this setup video: ruclips.net/video/gq6oUVZ-1wQ/видео.html
You are my new God !! Thank you very much for everything about this combo! Just a question : Why pass the sound of the Digitakt in the digitone? If you want to sample sounds of the digitone it is more practical to do the opposite and just for use the compressor of the Digitakt ... can you explain to me why you do it in this way?
Hey Clément, thanks a bunch for the great feedback! And your question is very good: this video was shot before the Digitakt received the firmware update which made it possible to use the inputs to route audio through. Today I'm routing the Digitone into the Digitakt to sample it and to also be able to use the compressor on the Digitone and the Digitakt's sounds. But good eyes! :)
@@MilesKvndra Thank you so much for the answer ! I hope one day to be as good a producer as you are with this magnificent combo of elektrons. Still full of Digitakt an digitone tutorials! Thank you
Hi Miles as always super explained! I've been working with the DT/DN combination for a while now. I find your structure very helpful. I'm curious to see how you integrate the ARP of the DN. Best regards from Nippes ;)
Hey Markus, many thanks! Happy to hear that, and I'll definitely cover the Arp more in the next video of the series, which will be out in about two weeks. :) Cheers zurück aus der Altstadt Nord - grad erst gesehen, dass du auch Kölner bist! 🙌🏻
Great video man! But quick question: if you go from DN into DT and then put the compressor on the master, does it still only effect DT or also the sounds from DN? Would be dope if so as a master compressor for all tracks!
Thank you! Yeah this video is a little old and got recorded before the big Digitakt update that enabled the Digitakt’s inputs to route audio through it. So yes now it is possible to route it the other way round and use the Digitakt’s compressor as a master compressor. Pretty nice :)
Thank you! For this video I used the Fujifilm X-T30 but meanwhile upgraded to the Fuji X-H2S. I still use the X-T30 for second angles, the only issue is that it has a recording limit of 10 minutes when shooting in 4k which can be limiting.
Really great video. I would love to learn more about, how you do your arrangement. I get to the point, where I am happy with one pattern, but as soon as I try to program a transition, everything goes to shit and doesn‘t feel fitting anymore 😅.
Hey, thank you for the great comment! That is a really nice idea that I'm happy to include in this series, as I know a lot of people (including myself) are struggling with this. Cheers for the good input and have a great day! :)
Hey Andrzej, that's a good question as I don't own the Syntakt but from what I've seen Syntakt + Digitone seems like a pretty dope combo. Of course you're missing sampling possibilities but the Sounddesign opportunities look very dope!
Question, is it merely a personal preference to have the Digitone on the left versus having it on the right? Great tutorial, looking forward to applying this approach. I like what you said about "intensity". Often I'll jump on and start creating and layering without stopping, which, is almost being irresponsible to the flow creation of a set. This really help me to understand when I'm going gung ho on my music progression and creativity, to hit the breaks and recognize I should probably break them up while being aware of what I'm desiring to bring in next, but except placing it into a new pattern.
Hey, thanks for the great feedback! Happy to hear that this was helpful, taking elements out and bringing them back in can have such a huge impact on the song, that you can make one song out of one pattern using tricks like this. And regarding your question: yeah, totally personal preference - I know a lot of people doing it the other way round but this just feels more natural to me. :) Cheers!
Hey Jdv, happy to hear that you like the jams! I'm a passionate Ableton user and love overbridge but for the standalone jams with the DN/DT combo I don't use a daw: I record every jam to my old Olympus LS-5 recorder and then drag the stereo file into iZotope Ozone 9 where I do all the post processing and mastering. A video on that process is definitely planned for the future, I'm currently looking for good ways to record that. Cheers and have a great day! :)
@mileskvndra Thank you for the great vids. Question for you: I'm new to the DT&DT (but I've spend some time with Model:Samples/Cycles so I'm familiar with the workflow). Once I've recorded a short sequence on a track (DT or DN) using a particular sound, can I continue playing that sequence while scrolling through and auditioning what it sounds like using different voices? I seem to only be able to load different voices one at a time using the Sound Browser. On Samples/Cycles you can flip through sounds while it plays and the sequence will play in that voice without actually selecting it.
Hey Scott, great to hear from you! Regarding your question I unfortunately think that this is not possible with the Digis. I think with the Digitakt you can scroll through the samples loaded up while the sequence plays but not through the sounds with all parameters applied.
Hi Miles 👋 Wouldn't it be beneficial to route DN MIDI OUT back to DT MIDI IN to utilize unused midi tracks for sequencing or modulation? I'm quite new to these boxes so please excuse me if that's a silly question 😅
Hey AIKO, that's indeed a good question (there are no silly questions in my opinion). I have to say that I'm not a big MIDI expert but I think this should work. I'm using the Microcosm now with the DN MIDI out so I don't have this option anymore. But it should work! :)
@@MilesKvndra Yea, this needs a bit more of experimentation on my behalf for sure! I just want to sqeeze the most out of these guys and practice some live jams just like you are doing. Thank you for great educational content! 🙏 Also, congratz on the Microcosm!
Great video! Thank you for the detailed explanation :) A quick question, though: why have the audio from the DT going into the DN and not the other way around? I’m about to start using this very same combo and audio from DN into the DT seemed like the more straightforward option in my head... but since you clearly know more and have more experience, I’m assuming there are good reasons to go the other way!!
Hey cohaagenup, thanks so much for the comment - really appreciate it! :) And good thought, I'd definitely love to route it that way but unfortunately that's not possible: The DT inputs are mono only and can just be used to sample into the DT but not to route audio through it. That is unfortunately only possible with the Digitone. Would love to do it the other way round, as I'd like to use the Digitakt's compressor on the DN too. But that's just how the devices are layed out and I doubt that this will ever change with these MK1 units, as they are designed like this from a hardware perspective. Cheers and have a great day! :)
@@MilesKvndra So, I think this has changed! The Digitakt 1.30 update has added external audio input functionality, and a page for an External Mixer In... I believe this means we can now route DN into the DT and use the compressor!
@@cohaagenup yeeeeeaaah I just read it! That's so cool, never thought that would've been possible from a hardware perspective but amazing that they made it work. Taking everything back I said in my last comment haha 😁
@@MilesKvndra XD I'm really looking forward to watching your take on how to make the most of this update, if you make a video on it! I think a similar update (at least in cosmetics, although not likely in new capabilities) will probably also come to the DN, don't you? The new display graphics look wonderful
hello miles at first I have to say thanks for all your helpful tutorials! I was wondering about the best way to record some jamsessions with my digitakt / digitone into ableton? Cause when I record with OB only the master gets the fx send effects, which annoys me cause all the stuff is on one channel. Do you know if there is a way to record all the 8/12 tracks separately and to maintain the delay/reverb effects somehow? How are you recording your Jamsession into a DAW? best regards, tobi :)
Hey Tobias, thank you so much for your feedback - I really appreciate that and you're very welcome! :) Regarding your question: I know exactly what you mean and I think there is no way around this. But this way you can apply the effects afterwards in Ableton. I usually don't use Ableton to record my jams, I just record the stereo sum to my mobile Olympus recorder and then master it in iZotope Ozone. :)
Why plug the digitakt into the digitone? Especially so since you have to switch it to be able to resample the digitone Edit: Is this because it was before 1.3 and the Digitakt didn't have a external input mixer?
So I really enjoy this combo. How would you add a midi keyboard to this setup? I found myself needing a midi merger. Because I couldn't find a way for the digitakt to send aftertouch information from my midi keyboard. So I had the midi thru and midi out of my digitakt being merged together and then sent to the digitone.
Hey Max, thanks for the comment! That's a good question because I've never used a MIDI keyboard with the combo, always used them on their own. Did you try the Elektronauts forum for this? There are a lot of people using MIDI keyboards in their workflow who might help you with this.
www.elektronauts.com/t/setup-dt-dn-keystep-modwheel-aftertouch-problem/135354/2 seems like it's not doing this... weird! send a feature request to feature-request@elektron.se ;)
Hi friend, I have a question. I have a Digitakt and I want to buy a Digitone, but I want to know if using the Digitakt song mode the Digitone is synchronized, can the two machines work with the same song mode, using the Digitakt as the main brain? Thanks for your time, i am from Colombia👊
Hey there, that’s a good question, I haven’t used the DT+DN in standalone for a while, so that’s tough to say. But I think that should be possible if for example you make the Digitakt the master brain sending pattern change messages to the Digitone. And if you then use the song mode only on Digitakt, the Digitone should follow
I like to have the digitone outs into the digitakt ins for resampling and compression on both machines. How come you do it the other way out of curiosity?
Hey Hats, good call, that's totally what I'm doing now as well. This video was before the most recent firmware update for the Digitakt so by now I changed the setup and route the Digitone into the Digitakt. Cheers! :)
@@MilesKvndra oh ye of course! Forgot how recent that update was. Gotta love the new updates haha. decent one there recently for the DN aswel. Thanks for the reply and the video, subbed 👍
hello miles, you have a very nice channel. your tutorial is very informative and instructive. I thank you for that. I also like to marry off my Digitone and my Digitakt ... 😉👍🎶🎶🎶🎶
Hey, can i ask you, why you dicided to route audio from digitakt to digitone and not vise versa? Im currently setting up my coombo, and was thinking to rougt from tone to takt, so i can use overall compression
Hey sk1e, you're absolutely right with this! The video was recorded before the last firmware update and I meanwhile changed my setup and route the Digitone into the Digitakt. I briefly touch on my new audio setup in this video: ruclips.net/video/duyhVqntDdc/видео.html
Hey, yeah that would in fact be the best solution. Problem is that the Digitakts inputs are mono and for sampling only, not to route audio through. So unfortunately it's not possible :(
If you set the Digitakt as master and you connect a midi keyboard to the midi in of the Digitakt to play the sounds of both machines, the mod wheel, pitch wheel and pedals of the keyboard will not work. Any solution for this keeping the Digitakt as master?
Hey Antonio, that's a good question but as I don't have a MIDI keyboard I don't know a solution for this. Maybe ask the people over at the Elektronauts forum? Fingers crossed that you'll find a solution! :)
Wonderful insight my friend.You are born for this 👍
Thanks so much, Wall! Appreciate to hear that and I'm happy that we got in touch via the collective! Cheers mate! 🙌🏻
another great one...
Thanks a lot, Filip! Appreciate to hear that from you and all the best for your blog!
Really great. Love hearing your workflow and performance tips.
Happy to hear that you found it useful!
Really informative. I like the arrangement of patterns - increasing energy, and the top/bottom row. Really clear and gives a visual reference too. Thank you.
You're welcome Ian! Thanks a lot for your good feedback, much appreciated 🙏🏻
Now this is where I can lend a fraction of advice to you for all the advice I’ve learned from your videos. an octotrack vs a digitakt would help you immensely with trying to create a full performance of multiple jams. The octotracks cross fader and sample/loop functions with its thru machines and pickup machines, allow you to sample a loop of your current jam while you load a secondary jam project. You still have access to effecting the loop with parameter changes as well as being able to bring in your secondary jam like a dj mixes tracks.
Thanks Devin!! Really appreciate that advice and it's a very good tip. I heard of the Octa being capable of that and that actually makes it quite interesting for me. Let's see what the future holds. ;)
Congratulations Miles!! Love your vids and the future series of Dk&Dn!!
Thanks so much, Jose! Hope you'll enjoy the series, next video is planned to be out in two weeks! 🙌🏻
Hey Miles, danke für das großartige Video. Ich erkunde diese Art Musik zu machen erst seit ganz kurzem und habe mit dem Digitakt angefangen. Da fuchse ich mich noch rein, habe aber nach deinen Digitone Videos schon immer ein Auge auf das Gerät geworfen. Jetzt die Videos zu der Kombo... absolut perfekt für mich. Ich habe schon viel gelernt und bin gespannt was sich so herauszaubern lässt. Deine Musik ist auf jeden Fall die größte Inspiration. Danke!
Hey Jan, vielen Dank dir für das tolle Feedback! Freut mich sehr zu hören, dass die Videos gerade so gut passen und dich inspirieren! Der Digitakt alleine ist auch schon extrem stark, wenn du da noch nach Content suchst, schau mal bei meinen Buddys 59 Perlen und Atlas Castle vorbei - die haben da richtig coole Jams und Tutorials Digitakt only. Aber die Kombo macht schon extrem viel Spaß, das kann ich dir sagen. :) Cheers!
Great tips! thank you!
You’re welcome!
This is perfect. I found the explanation of how you laid out the projects / patterns / transitions very helpful.
Thank you, Cameron! I'm super happy to hear that and glad this was helpful. Thanks for the comment and enjoy your weekend! :)
Love seeing you build tracks from scratch on both of these or as separates, hope you do more as your music is very inspiring.
Hey Andy, thanks a bunch for the hint! Definitely planned sometime in the future! :) Did you already watch my first livestream? Here I make a Digitone jam from scratch: ruclips.net/video/P25LqBIlf9U/видео.html
@@MilesKvndra oh I'm not sure I've seen that, I've watched so many though :). I'll go and search.
@@G0nz0uk cool, thanks so much! :) You can just follow the link in my last reply to get to the livestream - have a great weekend!
Thank you so much! This was exactly what I was looking for, I want to learn to make longer sets of music on my Digitakt and your explanation is so insightful!
You're welcome, Andrea! I'm so happy to hear that the video is helpful for your work with the Digitakt. Thanks for your great feedback - the second video of this tutorial series will be out this Friday, if you're interested! :)
@@MilesKvndra yes I'm waiting for it! 🤗🤗🙃 So great how you explain everything in detail I gonna practice your aprouch this week. I'm looking forward for your tutorial! Many thanks ❤
@@AndreaCichecki that's awesome to hear Andrea and thanks for your encouraging words - I really appreciate that! 🙂💚
Great idea for a series. Love your stuff
Cheers Alan, happy to hear that you like it! There's more to come 😎
love your videos man!!!!
you are my "elektron unlock all cheatcode"
Cheers Niko! Haha I hope it's like that car in Age of Empires or the immortality cheat in the old GTAs 😁
Those insights are really spot on my friend! I know where to start the day I get my hand on the Digitone! Looking forward to tutorial 2 now :) !!
Thanks so much my friend! I'm really happy to hear that you dig the insights as I know you're an absolute Digitakt pro! The Digitone could really add to your overall sound and I think you'd get some great sounds out of it. Have a lovely day, mate! 🙏💚
Very useful, thanks!
Thank you for watching. 🙏🏻
It's clear and precise as usual, well done!
I don't have DT, it helps me to think about it,…
But I’m afraid of not having enough time to manage my modular stuff, which is still my favorite way…
Thank you for this video 👍👏
Hey Clo, thanks for reaching out and the great feedback - appreciate it! 🙂 Yeah I know what you mean and you should definitely keep this up, your modular is great! :)
@@MilesKvndra Hey Milan, thank you so much for these kind words ♥️
Great video Miles, I really like the way you organize the two machines tonal duties.
My wife always says put things back in the same place and you know where to find find them...lol
Good stuff!
Cheers Howard hahaha - we should always listen to our better halves! 😁 And thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it! 🙏🏻
Haha, I’m glad you got OT...lol
Thanks for the video. Very helpful and I'm looking forward to watching the other 2 videos, yet for some reason seeing the digitone on the left hurts my brain.
Cheers Stephen, I appreciate that feedback a lot! Let me know how you like the other videos. And yeah haha, I hear this a lot - just started like this and now I go with it. Although it makes me a little bit of an outsider as most people have the Digitakt on the left. 😁 Have a great weekend!
Thank you, so clearly demonstrated🙏 And congratulations on your new digitakt!
Cheers Axel, that is so good to hear! And thanks a bunch, I'm enjoying it a lot and it pairs so great with the Digitone! 😍
Great work, very inspiring! thanks a lot ;) Can't wait for the 3rd video with performance tool ideas !!!
Cheers Arnaud! Yeah I'm currently collecting transition ideas from my past jams and can't wait to work on this. Happy to hear that you find the video inspiring! :)
Excited to watch this combo series! I highly appreciate your tutorials and the information you share. I own both, so thank you!
Thanks a lot, Michael! That really means a lot and I appreciate your ongoing support! 🙏🏻 Hope this video (and the upcoming ones) will help - happy Sunday!
Enjoyed the video mate. Very well and thoroughly explained. I'd be interested in seeing your process after jamming (EQ/mastering). It is something I'm struggling with / still learning. I was listening to your tracks on Spotify and they sound wide and lush :) keep up the great work. Cheers
Cheers Nevik and thanks so much for your feedback! Appreciate to hear that you like the sound! :) Yeah, a video on the whole mastering process in Ozone 9 is definitely planned for the future, but I need to find a good way for sharp screenrecordings on my PC first. But it's planned! :) Cheers
Miles thanks for great content. I use Syntakt and Digitone pair right now and some of your suggestions are very helpfull. :D
Hey Smo Kin, that's an awesome combo too! Can imagine the Syntakt + Digitone working great together - and awesome to hear that my videos are also useful for Syntakt users. Cheers! 🙌🏻
Thank you, Miles! This is a really great video. 🙏🏻
Thank you so much! That is great feedback for the series and I hope you'll like the upcoming videos too. 🙌 Have a great day!
Great video yet again.
Just added an octactrack to my DT+DN combo
Thank you! That sounds dope, how do you like this combo?
Great tips. I even took notes. Thanks
Wow that’s great to hear!
Hi, thx for this video series! Very helpfull! Maybe you can show us some more videos in sound design like the one about the Bass Lead moog??
Hey Peter, thanks for the tip! Yeah I'll think about sounddesign techniques, maybe not for this series, but in another format! :) Glad you like the video!!
excelente bro saludos desde tijuana mx
Thanks man and cheers back from Cologne to Tijuana! 🙌🏻
thank you for this series!
Cheers derper! Great to hear that it is appreciated :)
Thanks for making these videos! I just got your sound pack and will be assimilating it :D
That's awesome and I thank you so much for the support - really appreciate it, hope you dig the sounds! :)
Hi Miles! Thanks for the good thoughts on this particular setup. I plan to create and play live sets with this combo. The hardest thing for me is to design smooth TRANSITIONS between the parts of one jam or transition from one track to another. Would be great to hear you thoughts and tricks you've discovered on that!
Hey Anton, thanks for reaching out and for the great input! I'm currently planning the video on performance techniques and there will definitely be some points about transitions between different parts and how I set these up. Regarding transitions between tracks, I'm still looking for a way to make these transitions as smooth as possible. My plan right now is to create enough jams on this combo for a live set and once I have all of them together, I'll be looking for ways to connect them to make a smooth live set. Once this is done some time in the future this will definitely be worth another video!
Great insights and presentation. Thanks!
Hey, thank you for the feedback, I'm happy to hear that! Have a great day :)
Great tutorial! Thanks for this!
Thanks a lot for watching, Chroma Surge! Really appreciate the nice feedback :)
Great video!!!
It would be great if you make one about how to use the sound pool and how you manage your prefered sounds
Thank u so much
Thanks for the great input, David! I've to say that I don't use the soundpool on the Digitakt that much, but I definitely do it on the Digitone! Here I have one bank where I just have my own sounds created on the synths, which I mostly also put in the soundpool. Cheers!
Sehr interessant Miles..! Freu mich schon auf das nächste video! Die "transition-patterns" jeweils eins drunter zu legen werd ich Dir gerne stehlen wenn ich darf ;)
Danke dir, Maik, das freut mich sehr! Und klar darfst du das, dafür sind die Videos ja da. :)
Thanks for sharing.
I’m also using those two machines - pretty much exclusively atm.
One thing I also like to add is a tiny bit of distortion on the DN. It affects the master out so both the DN and DT and it makes for a subtle but decent compression on the stereo sum.
Looking forward to the next videos.
Hey even mind, thanks a bunch for the comment! Regarding the drive on the DN master page I tried this too and I've seen Ivar doing it in his video as well, but as soon as I add the slightest amount of drive (value 1-2) the signal gets super squashed and I have the feeling that I'm loosing all my dynamics. Did you experience something similar?
@@MilesKvndra yeah the distortion value is "scaled" a little weird. First, there´s an audible jump from 0.00 to 0.01 (like an off/on switch really). Second, it starts distorting very quickly even with very low values, while the in between higher values there´s isn´t such a big change anymore.
I mostly have it set to just above 0.00, so 0.01 to maybe 1.00 max. To my ears there isn´t too much squashing there but I shall have a closer listen next time.
@@evenmind-music thanks for sharing the thoughts and insights! I think my channels already have a lot of drive, that could be the reason why the master drive is affecting the signal so strong. But will give it another try - or just go with the Analogue Heat in the future. 😁
Brilliant! So excited for this thanks so much. Really would like to learn more about how to develop and structure jams and have fun performing live - also how to get good levels thanks 🙏
Thank you, I really appreciate your great feedback! I think with structure and live performing I'll have you covered in the next videos planned, but have nothing planned about levels right now: Do you mean the levels of all the different tracks and gain staging? Cheers!
Yes techniques for gainstaging levels and maybe other techniques such as eq or panning of tracks to best combine the unique sounds of these 2 wonderful instruments. Sometimes I find it hard to blend especially the low end. Thanks😀
@@peacefulpigeon7254 gotcha! I think some of this I already cover in my next video, but I'm thinking about doing a more in depth tutorial on that. Thanks! 🙌🏻
Very helpfull, thanks a lot! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for the great feedback, Roy! Will definitely do that. :)
Great explanation as always!
Really looking forward to your planned liveset!
If you want to challenge yourself, make it as a livestream at primetime 😉. I think this could be really nice!
Thanks Steppi and cheers! Happy to hear that you like it! :)
Yeah looking forward to that too!! But I'll need at least five jams to kick this off and would love to do that via a livestream! 😍 But first I need the right technical equipment to get a livestream like this going.
Hey Miles, I'm excited about this tutorial série 😊 viel Erfolg 🙌. If there is no option to trigger the fill for both synths with a single page button, then maybe try sending a feature request to Elektron, they could implement it in the next update 😉
Cheers Adil and thanks a bunch - happy to hear your thoughts about it and hope this helps! Yeah should do that haha - currently collecting things I'm missing about this combo. 😁
Super video brother!
Thank you my friend! 🙌🏻
Thanks!
Thank you so much Brian! Really appreciate the support, which definitely helps and hope the tutorial was helpful. :)
@@MilesKvndra Very helpful! I’ve watched all three videos in this series and I definitely learned some new techniques. Did you ever figure out a solution to trigger “fill mode” on both Digi’s w/o having to press both buttons?
@@brian-lc no never figured that out unfortunately. There might be a way of remapping MIDI cc messages to trigger fill on both devices but I never went in so deep. At some point I was used to pressing it on both devices and just went with it.
Excited by this series - perfect timing as just planning some live performances with restrictions easing. Nice to see how someone else is organizing a set. Are you using any techniques to sidechain the digitone?
Here's one way to do sidechain: ruclips.net/video/_DOHJm9k3Ok/видео.html (approach is same as Digitakt)
Thanks for sharing John! Another way to emulate side chain is to use an LFO on the amp volume and then time it to the kickdrum. Cheers!
Great video! Any thoughts on how you would use the same combo with a Syntakt added? A Digitakt-Digitone-Syntakt trio.
Thank you! I think I would have added a Syntakt to the duo to take care of some additional percussion sounds and especially to layer melodic sounds from the Digitone. Now my Moogs and Ableton are taking care of that which works really nicely as well :)
I love the level of nerdiness here, Im gonna need some more video like these. I cant afford any of these, so I just sit back and study everything about these small boxes with bright lights. Do these boxes take input from outside source like multi pedal boards? My fetish is to mix analog with digital in every way possible.
Thanks a bunch man - appreciate your kind feedback. Not sure about multi pedal boards, the boxes each have 2 stereo inputs and 2 stereo outs but you can also just use those as 2 separate mono channels. Then you also have MIDI in, out and through and also audio/midi via USB - so quite a lot of flexibility to hook them up. In the beginning I only used the stereo channels but now I'm also using a lot of the MIDI channels and USB to hook the machines up with Ableton as well. :)
awesome video! thanks!
You're welcome and thanks for your feedback! I truly appreciate it. 🙏🏻
Hi Miles another great video that is very useful for me. I wanted to know if there is a way that when I change the pattern on the digitakt it also changes the pattern on the digitone.
For example, when I go from pattern 1 to 9 on the digitakt, the digitone will do the same without having to change it on the digitione.
Hey Sebastian, thanks for the feedback! Yes there is a way to set this up in the options - I'm not entirely sure where but I think Ivar Tryti covered this in this setup video: ruclips.net/video/gq6oUVZ-1wQ/видео.html
Nice I just bought both 💪
Hey Alex, great news - enjoy your new equipment and keep jamming! 🙌
You are my new God !!
Thank you very much for everything about this combo!
Just a question : Why pass the sound of the Digitakt in the digitone? If you want to sample sounds of the digitone it is more practical to do the opposite and just for use the compressor of the Digitakt ... can you explain to me why you do it in this way?
Hey Clément, thanks a bunch for the great feedback! And your question is very good: this video was shot before the Digitakt received the firmware update which made it possible to use the inputs to route audio through. Today I'm routing the Digitone into the Digitakt to sample it and to also be able to use the compressor on the Digitone and the Digitakt's sounds. But good eyes! :)
@@MilesKvndra Thank you so much for the answer ! I hope one day to be as good a producer as you are with this magnificent combo of elektrons. Still full of Digitakt an digitone tutorials! Thank you
Hi Miles as always super explained! I've been working with the DT/DN combination for a while now. I find your structure very helpful. I'm curious to see how you integrate the ARP of the DN. Best regards from Nippes ;)
Hey Markus, many thanks! Happy to hear that, and I'll definitely cover the Arp more in the next video of the series, which will be out in about two weeks. :)
Cheers zurück aus der Altstadt Nord - grad erst gesehen, dass du auch Kölner bist! 🙌🏻
Great video man! But quick question: if you go from DN into DT and then put the compressor on the master, does it still only effect DT or also the sounds from DN? Would be dope if so as a master compressor for all tracks!
Thank you! Yeah this video is a little old and got recorded before the big Digitakt update that enabled the Digitakt’s inputs to route audio through it. So yes now it is possible to route it the other way round and use the Digitakt’s compressor as a master compressor. Pretty nice :)
Yes, please. Danke
You're welcome, Christian!
What overhead camera are you using here? Looks quite nice! Tausend dank!
Thank you! For this video I used the Fujifilm X-T30 but meanwhile upgraded to the Fuji X-H2S. I still use the X-T30 for second angles, the only issue is that it has a recording limit of 10 minutes when shooting in 4k which can be limiting.
Really great video. I would love to learn more about, how you do your arrangement. I get to the point, where I am happy with one pattern, but as soon as I try to program a transition, everything goes to shit and doesn‘t feel fitting anymore 😅.
Hey, thank you for the great comment! That is a really nice idea that I'm happy to include in this series, as I know a lot of people (including myself) are struggling with this. Cheers for the good input and have a great day! :)
Hi Miles, do you know if its possible to have analogous setup but with Syntakt instead of Digitakt?
Hey Andrzej, that's a good question as I don't own the Syntakt but from what I've seen Syntakt + Digitone seems like a pretty dope combo. Of course you're missing sampling possibilities but the Sounddesign opportunities look very dope!
Question, is it merely a personal preference to have the Digitone on the left versus having it on the right? Great tutorial, looking forward to applying this approach. I like what you said about "intensity". Often I'll jump on and start creating and layering without stopping, which, is almost being irresponsible to the flow creation of a set. This really help me to understand when I'm going gung ho on my music progression and creativity, to hit the breaks and recognize I should probably break them up while being aware of what I'm desiring to bring in next, but except placing it into a new pattern.
Hey, thanks for the great feedback! Happy to hear that this was helpful, taking elements out and bringing them back in can have such a huge impact on the song, that you can make one song out of one pattern using tricks like this. And regarding your question: yeah, totally personal preference - I know a lot of people doing it the other way round but this just feels more natural to me. :) Cheers!
Are you using a daw to record your track with overbridge? Can you do a video for the process to finish your tracks? Great jamms😎
Hey Jdv, happy to hear that you like the jams! I'm a passionate Ableton user and love overbridge but for the standalone jams with the DN/DT combo I don't use a daw: I record every jam to my old Olympus LS-5 recorder and then drag the stereo file into iZotope Ozone 9 where I do all the post processing and mastering. A video on that process is definitely planned for the future, I'm currently looking for good ways to record that. Cheers and have a great day! :)
@@MilesKvndra Hi Miles,
Cool thanks for your feedback, looking foreward!
@mileskvndra Thank you for the great vids. Question for you: I'm new to the DT&DT (but I've spend some time with Model:Samples/Cycles so I'm familiar with the workflow). Once I've recorded a short sequence on a track (DT or DN) using a particular sound, can I continue playing that sequence while scrolling through and auditioning what it sounds like using different voices? I seem to only be able to load different voices one at a time using the Sound Browser. On Samples/Cycles you can flip through sounds while it plays and the sequence will play in that voice without actually selecting it.
Hey Scott, great to hear from you! Regarding your question I unfortunately think that this is not possible with the Digis. I think with the Digitakt you can scroll through the samples loaded up while the sequence plays but not through the sounds with all parameters applied.
Great tutorial, thanks. Could you please tell me the reason you place the digitakt on the right in your set Up?
Hey Barry, thanks a lot! No specific reason it just "feels" a little more natural to me having the Digitakt on the right - don't know why.
@@MilesKvndra thanks
Hi Miles 👋
Wouldn't it be beneficial to route DN MIDI OUT back to DT MIDI IN to utilize unused midi tracks for sequencing or modulation? I'm quite new to these boxes so please excuse me if that's a silly question 😅
Hey AIKO, that's indeed a good question (there are no silly questions in my opinion). I have to say that I'm not a big MIDI expert but I think this should work. I'm using the Microcosm now with the DN MIDI out so I don't have this option anymore. But it should work! :)
@@MilesKvndra Yea, this needs a bit more of experimentation on my behalf for sure! I just want to sqeeze the most out of these guys and practice some live jams just like you are doing. Thank you for great educational content! 🙏
Also, congratz on the Microcosm!
Great video! Thank you for the detailed explanation :) A quick question, though: why have the audio from the DT going into the DN and not the other way around? I’m about to start using this very same combo and audio from DN into the DT seemed like the more straightforward option in my head... but since you clearly know more and have more experience, I’m assuming there are good reasons to go the other way!!
Hey cohaagenup, thanks so much for the comment - really appreciate it! :) And good thought, I'd definitely love to route it that way but unfortunately that's not possible: The DT inputs are mono only and can just be used to sample into the DT but not to route audio through it. That is unfortunately only possible with the Digitone. Would love to do it the other way round, as I'd like to use the Digitakt's compressor on the DN too. But that's just how the devices are layed out and I doubt that this will ever change with these MK1 units, as they are designed like this from a hardware perspective. Cheers and have a great day! :)
@@MilesKvndra Oh, that makes sense... I've had the DT for a total of 2 days and did not know that yet! XDDDD Thanks for explaining that :)
@@MilesKvndra So, I think this has changed! The Digitakt 1.30 update has added external audio input functionality, and a page for an External Mixer In... I believe this means we can now route DN into the DT and use the compressor!
@@cohaagenup yeeeeeaaah I just read it! That's so cool, never thought that would've been possible from a hardware perspective but amazing that they made it work. Taking everything back I said in my last comment haha 😁
@@MilesKvndra XD I'm really looking forward to watching your take on how to make the most of this update, if you make a video on it! I think a similar update (at least in cosmetics, although not likely in new capabilities) will probably also come to the DN, don't you? The new display graphics look wonderful
hello miles at first I have to say thanks for all your helpful tutorials!
I was wondering about the best way to record some jamsessions with my digitakt / digitone into ableton?
Cause when I record with OB only the master gets the fx send effects, which annoys me cause all the stuff is on one channel.
Do you know if there is a way to record all the 8/12 tracks separately and to maintain the delay/reverb effects somehow?
How are you recording your Jamsession into a DAW?
best regards,
tobi
:)
Hey Tobias, thank you so much for your feedback - I really appreciate that and you're very welcome! :)
Regarding your question: I know exactly what you mean and I think there is no way around this. But this way you can apply the effects afterwards in Ableton. I usually don't use Ableton to record my jams, I just record the stereo sum to my mobile Olympus recorder and then master it in iZotope Ozone. :)
Why plug the digitakt into the digitone? Especially so since you have to switch it to be able to resample the digitone Edit: Is this because it was before 1.3 and the Digitakt didn't have a external input mixer?
Hey Amadou, yes exactly, this was before the 1.30 update. Meanwhile my routing is Digitone --> Microcosm --> Digitakt. Cheers! :)
So I really enjoy this combo. How would you add a midi keyboard to this setup? I found myself needing a midi merger. Because I couldn't find a way for the digitakt to send aftertouch information from my midi keyboard. So I had the midi thru and midi out of my digitakt being merged together and then sent to the digitone.
Hey Max, thanks for the comment! That's a good question because I've never used a MIDI keyboard with the combo, always used them on their own. Did you try the Elektronauts forum for this? There are a lot of people using MIDI keyboards in their workflow who might help you with this.
www.elektronauts.com/t/setup-dt-dn-keystep-modwheel-aftertouch-problem/135354/2 seems like it's not doing this... weird! send a feature request to feature-request@elektron.se ;)
@@microfx haha cheers man! Let's hope they'll add this some time in the future :D
Hi friend, I have a question. I have a Digitakt and I want to buy a Digitone, but I want to know if using the Digitakt song mode the Digitone is synchronized, can the two machines work with the same song mode, using the Digitakt as the main brain? Thanks for your time, i am from Colombia👊
Hey there, that’s a good question, I haven’t used the DT+DN in standalone for a while, so that’s tough to say. But I think that should be possible if for example you make the Digitakt the master brain sending pattern change messages to the Digitone. And if you then use the song mode only on Digitakt, the Digitone should follow
@@MilesKvndra thanks for your time👊
I like to have the digitone outs into the digitakt ins for resampling and compression on both machines. How come you do it the other way out of curiosity?
Hey Hats, good call, that's totally what I'm doing now as well. This video was before the most recent firmware update for the Digitakt so by now I changed the setup and route the Digitone into the Digitakt. Cheers! :)
@@MilesKvndra oh ye of course! Forgot how recent that update was. Gotta love the new updates haha. decent one there recently for the DN aswel. Thanks for the reply and the video, subbed 👍
Yes… Running these together and using class complianct devices like an iPad..
Hey Foul, thanks for the feedback! Yeah with an iPad this can also work great I think, never tried it unfortunately.
hello miles, you have a very nice channel. your tutorial is very informative and instructive. I thank you for that. I also like to marry off my Digitone and my Digitakt ... 😉👍🎶🎶🎶🎶
Hey Menne, that feedback is so much appreciated - glad to hear that you like my channel! 🙏🏻 And this marriage seems legit. 😁 Cheers!
Hey, can i ask you, why you dicided to route audio from digitakt to digitone and not vise versa? Im currently setting up my coombo, and was thinking to rougt from tone to takt, so i can use overall compression
Hey sk1e, you're absolutely right with this! The video was recorded before the last firmware update and I meanwhile changed my setup and route the Digitone into the Digitakt. I briefly touch on my new audio setup in this video: ruclips.net/video/duyhVqntDdc/видео.html
Do you use a midi controller for mapping knobs in your performances? Like a novation or faderfox?
Hey Jdv, no I do everything within the Digis, no external hardware used!
Thx Dude, very helpful! 🙏
How can you "hold" the Mute-mode (green) on the Digitakt..?? Thats a biiig thing!
hold?
Cheers Robu! Pressing 'FUNC+Bank' puts the Digitakt into mute mode, so that you don't need to press func to mute a track - hope that is what you mean!
Press function and bank to put it in global mute mode (green). Press function and bank x2 for per pattern mute mode (purple).
@@BigPlasticPlant good addition, pattern mute mode is great too, but unfortunately doesn't work in combination with the Digitone. :(
Aah thx alot guys!! 🙏✨
doesnt the digitakt have a master compressor? why not run dn audio into that?
Hey, yeah that would in fact be the best solution. Problem is that the Digitakts inputs are mono and for sampling only, not to route audio through. So unfortunately it's not possible :(
didnt that just change in the latest firmware update?
@@mr_dfuse yeah it did!! And I'm so happy about this 😍
@@MilesKvndra Good to hear that it did! How would you setup the 2 devices now? Very curious!
@@sabinbadea94 hey Sabin, I would route Digitone into Digitakt to make use of the Digitakt’s compressor. Can really make a difference!
If you set the Digitakt as master and you connect a midi keyboard to the midi in of the Digitakt to play the sounds of both machines, the mod wheel, pitch wheel and pedals of the keyboard will not work. Any solution for this keeping the Digitakt as master?
Hey Antonio, that's a good question but as I don't have a MIDI keyboard I don't know a solution for this. Maybe ask the people over at the Elektronauts forum? Fingers crossed that you'll find a solution! :)
I tried. Had no idea what you were saying. Way too much talking with barely any explanation.
Hey MP, thanks for the feedback and sorry to hear that it didn't work for you.
This is a great video, I think you have to be familiar with both devices to get value out of it.
@@FurryNightmare666 yeah, I think that's it. Might not be for beginners but rather for more advanced users. Cheers Johann!