Repairing Tuba Knuckle Dents- band instrument repair- Wes lee music repair
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2021
- In this episode, how to get in hard to reach areas to remove dents without distorting the knuckles.
Tools used:
P50 dent ball driver
F10 dent hammer
N57G dent balls
N59 pencil magnet
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Thanks for watching.
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This type of craftsmanship just doesn’t exist anymore. Thank you for sharing these videos
I wish you this RUclips channel 38 years ago. This information would have saved me many headaches. I hope new directors use your knowledge wisely.
My band director told me about these types of balls way back in 1972, and I finally got to see them! It's all perfectly clear now, fifty years later. Believe it or not, it's something that crossed my mind from time to time, and it's really cool to finally see them in action! Thank you, Wes, I appreciate it!
Work ethic, expertise, common sense. Love it!
Slow and steady with taps and balls. Great work!
Beautiful workmanship!
A master at work.
Thanks Wes learning a lot from you about dent removal.
Thanks for following along
Great job!!
Bravo Maestro!!!
Loving your channel, very interesting how you turn a crumbled up mess back into an instrument
Fascinating!!!!
Sure enjoy your cautious approach to problem solving and proud quality workmanship.
The soft accent on the cause of damage, to these instruments, is refreshing.
There is too much blame in our world. Your magical changes, gives all, another chance to enjoy the good.
Amazing!
I loving your channel.
With respects
Paul,from Holland
Very interesting video. I repaired my daughters dropped coronet but I did it the other was around!, as a toolmaker my solution was to pull different sized slugs through the dent on a Bowden cable. I adapted a clutch cable from a car and had a threaded end to provide the pulling power. Progressively sized well lubricated slugs were pulled through till the dent was gone.
Excellent idea. What type of slugs did you use?
Great info, nice video, thank you...!!
Encantado de ver tanta perfección 🎼📯
I have enjoyed watching your videos. I started watching because I was a trumpet player in school and recently found a trumpet in the scrap heap in the scrap yard where I worked ,it is in a bit of a mess and was wondering if I could fix it and how that was done professionally. I'm vary handy so I might give it a shot. Keep up the good work.
Here’s a tip for getting the right size ball going through the knuckle is measure the ball size from the inner tuning slide , go down a few balls sizes and you build up. Also always check if possible that there is no solder blobs in the joint that would obstruct your passage going through. Yamaha’s are pretty good for not having solder bleed inside the tubes, worst manufacturers are Bosey and Hawks , Bach, Conn and Getzen are notorious for having inner tube solder blobs that restrict its full air flow and turbulence.
Absolutely. Good stuff Ernie.
I used to play a king tuba when i was in school, a 1140 model i think. I looked down the tuning slides with a light and a remember seeing a huge blob of solder right next to the water key. I went in with a thin screwdriver that was long enough and a hammer and carefully tapped it out, and noticably more spit came out when i emptied it from then on. And, it was on the main tuning slide, so i noticed less resistance throughout and it wasnt constantly flat afterwards. It was a massive blob, like covered half pf the tubing. I also hammered out some dents on the bell from a time when i dropped it, and some that were already there. I'm now using those skills i learned from that plus from these videos to maintain my Yamaha YBB201. Its really a great tuba, if yoou can find one id recommend it.
at the end of each session it would be nice to see a before and after shot
This is so interesting and amazing to watch! I am not even a wind instrument player, nor a technician, but it is intriguing nonetheless :-)
It looks like, if you're tapping/hammering, you are also making a 'wiping motion'. Is that correct? If so, what would happen if you would just tap/hammer straight down?
Anyway, looking forward to more of your videos :-)
Just wondering if a soft sponge or rag piece, slid into the valve casing, would help protect from wayward dent ball damage ?
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Bringing you a Conn 88H a week from Friday. (Slide job)
Ever have a moment where you realize you have been doing something the hard way? I knew that took existed, but I never bought it. I used to use the N56 and stressing about not going to far.
My mentor used to have me free hammer those dents. That's how you learn someone patience.
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Is it baby oil and solvent mixed?
Hi…any videos on how to get a buzz out of the tuba/euph bell that
has a ring in it . Thanks in advance
i played tuba in high school, more years ago than I care to count, in marching band the Sousaphone was brass but the bell and part of the tubing leading up to it were fiber glass. There was a crack in the fiber glass. If I wanted to get that tuba and have it fixed for the school (the crack was as 12 to 15 inches long) what would be a ball park for that repair.
Where is possible to buy the balls set?
Would putting something in the valve casing, like a dowel for instance, protect it if the ball went too far past the dent?
IT is just amazing how the dents wanish. But do the metal gets more proun to dents after the treatment ?
Yes the metal gets weaker and sometimes the brass ‘remembers’ previous dents. This is especially problematic in trombone slides-most inner slide dents will come back at some point or another.
Do you any old conn sousaphone for bflat
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How would you get dents out of an instrument with a brushed finish? I have a Phaeton trumpet with a brushed brass finish that has a few dents in the bell crook. How would those dents be removed? And would it mess with the finish any? Thanks
Hi Wes. Do the dents in the knuckles affect the sound of the instrument?
Love the channel although I know nothing about brass instruments. What I'd like to know is how the instruments suffer so much damage? Many thanks.
@@chansberry84 Thanks for taking the time to reply. Some look so crushed that it seems that they have been run over by a truck! I really like your attention to detail and your dedication to your art.
Strewth. Who'd a thought knuckle dents were a thing outside the bar fighting community
If you have a Harbor Freight near you they have 2lb single-jacks that would make quicker work of those instruments instead of using your kids play tools.
So that's what they use Toffee Hammers for!
At what point do the brass instruments become work hardened?
Do you ever have to anneal them? If so, do you need to harden them back to a certain point?
Just curious, as I am well beyond retirement age.
When a piece becomes work hardened, it has a definite appearance. Yes I anneal in certain situations, but if I am not relacquering, I try not to put the instruments in that position. I will when needed, and I also stress relieve when I remount instruments or even when I do serious dent work.
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U need better camera angles