Sir Alf Ramsay - England Soccer Team Manager

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  • Опубликовано: 8 мар 2012
  • A film profile of Sir Alf Ramsey, which traces his life from his childhood days, his playing career with such teams as Southampton, Spurs and England, and his d ays as manager of Ipswich Town, right up to his present day job as the England team manager
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  • @JohnSmith-hk1lx
    @JohnSmith-hk1lx 4 года назад +9

    Alf would have been 100 years today - Happy Birthday Sir Alf

  • @michaelhampton9493
    @michaelhampton9493 9 лет назад +36

    Alf was treated very shabbily by the F.A. because he wouldn't kiss their backsides. I met him twice in the early 70's and he was really nice and friendly.He also signed autographs for everyone .

    • @itchycooable
      @itchycooable 8 лет назад +4

      Saw him at Bellfield Evertons' training ground in 1966 (he would nt sign)and also at Stoke in about 1969 walking to the game stoke v liverpool , he was polite but a bit distant ,we walked with him about 200 yards mind u we were only about 16 and abit cheeky .

    • @mjb4983
      @mjb4983 3 года назад

      you are so right

    • @seltaeb3302
      @seltaeb3302 2 года назад

      @@itchycooable reminds me of my RSMs. When he speaks his eyes dart about everywhere which tells you he doesn't & can't do close personal contact. Just don't play tiddlywinks with him!

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 Год назад

      They all were... Bobby Moore was as well. Ended up at Southend and lower league clubs instead of being an Ambassador or Something for West Ham and England.

    • @dazzledarren1271
      @dazzledarren1271 2 месяца назад

      In 2024 it would take more than a kiss of a back side to get on 😮

  • @kikiu2619
    @kikiu2619 4 года назад +10

    - One of the greatest football managers of the 20th Century.♥️

  • @rustyboyo959
    @rustyboyo959 5 лет назад +21

    one word...LEGEND

    • @MrGoldie1976
      @MrGoldie1976 3 года назад

      That's 3 words 😅

    • @enterzone263
      @enterzone263 3 года назад +1

      @@MrGoldie1976 LEGEND!!!!!!

    • @seltaeb3302
      @seltaeb3302 2 года назад

      @@enterzone263 or Leg-End as our RSMs said. I only caught on 50yrs later!

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 4 года назад +6

    Ramsey's the best manager England ever had...absolutely no doubt

  • @tomduggan51
    @tomduggan51 10 месяцев назад +2

    Woodyaa,
    Thanks for this excellent and revealing behind-the-scenes look at Sir Alf Ramsey and in particular his work as England manager.

  • @richardsmith561
    @richardsmith561 2 года назад +3

    THE BEST MANAGER ENGLAND EVER HAD !!!!!...BY A MILE.....Dear Alf Ramsey you were and still are the greatest....RIP....

  • @seanreillyireland
    @seanreillyireland 11 лет назад +8

    This is an extraordinary social / historical document. Alf comes under savage scrutiny here, right down to his 'uppity' accent. As an Irishman, I must admit I thought he'd have been treated fawningly re: '66 et al, but this is so bloody raw. Something has surely been lost re: the art of the documentary, particularly due to the birth of PC in mid 1980's. Bobby Robson could testify to that - from being bete noire of the press in '80's to everyones favourite stately grandpa in late 1990's.

    • @mjb4983
      @mjb4983 3 года назад

      He was told to

  • @chrishawkes2266
    @chrishawkes2266 Год назад +2

    What a great insight to this legend! Thankyou for this 😊

  • @DonLusher
    @DonLusher 4 года назад +6

    What a great man he was!

  • @thelegendfamily4836
    @thelegendfamily4836 11 лет назад +4

    Another thing that's quite beneficial is the likes of Jack Charlton, Bobby Moore and Harry Shepherdson distilling what made Ramsey such an effective head coach/team man. Ramsey had become such a caricature that it's often forgotten why he as given the England job in the first place.

  • @MarbleyeRecords
    @MarbleyeRecords 4 года назад +4

    Enjoyed that. Great stuff.

  • @ericbeaulieu4843
    @ericbeaulieu4843 8 лет назад +6

    Your Sir Alf Ramsey is kind of like our Scotty Bowman, who was a feared and respected coach for the Montreal Canadians,in the NHl.They both had ,the eye of the tiger .

  • @stephenreeds3632
    @stephenreeds3632 2 года назад +1

    A proper manager. We've never had one who comes anywhere near him. He knew exactly what was needed and was single minded enough to do it. Sacking him was a bloody disgrace but that's football administrators for you. The 1970 team was sublime.

  • @kotv4342
    @kotv4342 2 года назад +2

    That generation and the one before were a credit to Britain.
    Just oozed class.

  • @timrobinson100
    @timrobinson100 5 лет назад +5

    great man great english man

  • @raymondmcdonald355
    @raymondmcdonald355 6 лет назад +3

    Great documentary

  • @billlong9606
    @billlong9606 2 года назад +2

    Little known fact: Before playing in his first professional game of football Alf had seen precisely ONE professional football game in his life.

  • @martynhanson
    @martynhanson 8 лет назад +5

    the film starts off with ramsey getting off the a train from home. I read a story that on the day alf was sacked he met up with one of his old Ipswich players and they had a drink. but he never told him he had just been sacked that day. the old player didn't know until he got home and was amazed. Ramsey was the only England manager to get two top four placing's in competitions. Oh and by the way the 1970 team was awesome. Please watch the group game against Brazil as evidence

    • @fredwhite9513
      @fredwhite9513 6 лет назад +2

      Alf met Ted Phillips (who sadly passed away a few Weeks ago) on the train after being sacked. And Alf bought several drinks on the train and Tex thought this was very unlike Alf. And he (Ted) could not believe it when he next day read the news about Alf sacking, without Alf saying a word about this. Alf was always a believer in discipline and he was shy and quite remote as a person. Football was his life and he had tremendous confidence as a footballer and as a manager. Being an introvert himself he enjoyed the company of extroverts like Eddie Baily (his team mate from the famous Spurs side), Jack Charlton and Ted Phillips (forever the practical joker) Harold Thompson, who was the chairman of the FA, treated Alf unbelievably bad.

    • @northlincsfox243
      @northlincsfox243 5 лет назад +1

      Well said Martyn & Fred. I watched an episode of Sky’s “Time of our Lives” which featured Ipswich’s Ted Phillips and Ray Crawford. Ted spoke of meeting Alf on that train journey and what happened later as has been mentioned here.

  • @pablok2854
    @pablok2854 11 лет назад +3

    love the 'provincian' mentallity some peaople have on th UK. am Chilean and it reminds me a lot the way peaople are here, specially outside the city. its an impression but i think is hard to accept that people with those lovely characters are part of an Empire.

  • @vantheman12welshman66
    @vantheman12welshman66 5 лет назад +10

    Why were people so obsessed with what Sir Alf was like. Why do we always try and destroy our heroes in this country?

    • @seltaeb3302
      @seltaeb3302 2 года назад

      Alf should have stepped down after Mexico 1970 with his head held high. The 70s were a new age in football as was music, the Beatles knew that. Alf could have been on the FA Board or manage a club but Alf just couldn't do that. Great man.

    • @gadaboutunited
      @gadaboutunited Год назад

      It's in our culture. Look at what he said about the press, ditto Bobby Robson in the '80's and the 1990 World Cup, and every manager before and since. And they have great influence over the populous.

  • @scottharbison3824
    @scottharbison3824 2 года назад

    Only discovered this channel today. Top hole.

  • @h0ckeyd
    @h0ckeyd 12 лет назад +2

    Ted Bates is also an absolute legend; I'm too young to ever have seen him manage but I was unaware of just how soft-spoken he was

    • @michaelhampton9493
      @michaelhampton9493 3 года назад

      Ted was a very nice man. Saw a lot of him when he was Saints manager. Always had time for people

  • @mjb4983
    @mjb4983 7 лет назад +16

    Sir Alf deserved better...but the way Bobby Moore was treated was nothing short of disgusting!!!

    • @gordoncampbell100
      @gordoncampbell100 4 года назад +1

      The Bobby Moore situation is still an outrage today in 2020.And I`m a Scottish dude .

    • @micheallyons1941
      @micheallyons1941 3 года назад +1

      Yip disgrace the way Moore was treated

    • @marcusclark5330
      @marcusclark5330 3 года назад

      @@gordoncampbell100 totally agree

  • @Ferrari312pb
    @Ferrari312pb 12 лет назад +2

    Training in the car park - love it !

  • @CCRider100
    @CCRider100 8 лет назад +19

    To think, England's greatest ever national team manager was paid only 7500 pounds in his last year (1974), while the embarrassment who managed England at the 2016 Euros was paid 3,500,000 pounds per year.

    • @michaelhampton9493
      @michaelhampton9493 8 лет назад +2

      Yeah CCRider100 It makes you laugh. It just goes to show what the F.A thought of Alf. They wouldn't know i great manager if they fell over one.

    • @PrZemek44
      @PrZemek44 6 лет назад

      He was fired in 1973, after losing to Poland.
      I agree, he was definitely the best.

    • @fredwhite9513
      @fredwhite9513 6 лет назад +3

      u are wrong, the game finished 1-1. Learn your history before opening your big mouth

    • @wildbill8635
      @wildbill8635 3 года назад +2

      £7500 was a lot in '74. You could buy 3 houses, a Mini and had enough leftover for a few Double Diamonds and a bag of chips cooked in luvely lard. Much missed but not by my ticker!

    • @JfK--OBJECTivE
      @JfK--OBJECTivE 3 года назад +1

      @@PrZemek44 He wasn't fired after Poland. He was fired in 1974.

  • @gregod806
    @gregod806 8 лет назад +6

    Sir Alf a legend and should have been a National treasure. I always wonder whose side the press are on?

    • @JohnSmith-hk1lx
      @JohnSmith-hk1lx 4 года назад +1

      Alf hated the press so I can understand that some of the journalists were not too friendly with him

    • @choppy249
      @choppy249 4 года назад +4

      Greg O'D . Exactly . The press are disgusting , or at least a large percentage of them are . They have NO scruples and they do not care about the sport they are reporting on , whatever they might say . ALL they are interested in is making a name for themselves and trying to reveal a scandalous fact about someone that will severely damage the sport . Then they will say it is justified , which of course it isn’t because almost everyone has a skeleton lurking in the cupboard somewhere . They are completely hypocritical . When someone is appointed a top job they will instantly criticise that person and give their reasons why they are not suitable for the job , then when that person proves successful , as with Alf Ramsey they will heap praises on them because they can’t go against the general public’s love for that person , then later on when success starts to wane , they will hammer and try to destroy that person and turn on him like a ravaging pack of wild dogs . They are completely without scruples .
      They tried to destroy Bobby Robson in the press with disgusting , vile articles about him before he had a bit of success and they found out that the public actually loved him . Then they changed their tune overnight .
      Then they set up to destroy further England managers like Hoddle and Alladyce . Who cares what Glen Hoddle thinks about reincarnation etc . Over a billion people might have similar views to him , right or wrong , it has nothing to do with football . And who cares that Sam Alladyce knows how to get around certain payments to his advantage . So does every other football manager . Yet the press just want to DESTROY people’s careers even though it will DAMAGE the sport and seriously affect the success of the England football team . Hoddle had the capability to become a great , great England manager and bring us back into the top flight of international football once more , yet the press didn’t give a damn about that . They care more about making a name for themselves .
      Pitiful , disgusting , shameful parasites are what the majority of the press are in this country .
      There are one or two about with morals and integrity and a sense of decency but they are few and far between .
      That’s why I stopped reading any sporting press 20 years ago as it is a waste of time . You might as well ask a teabag it’s opinion rather than consult a ‘ newspaper ‘.

    • @gregod806
      @gregod806 4 года назад

      @@choppy249 word perfect my friend

    • @stephenreeds3632
      @stephenreeds3632 2 года назад

      Their own.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Год назад

      Who's side are the press on?
      The side of the s*it stirer and tub thumper. Anything to sell papers and manipulate people.

  • @mjb4983
    @mjb4983 3 года назад +2

    A true gentlemen

  • @mikeeyre7315
    @mikeeyre7315 4 года назад +1

    never over the line

  • @stephennicolay1940
    @stephennicolay1940 2 года назад +1

    My father lives in Suffolk and he was at the World Cup final in 1966. Together we have seen Ipswich Town from 1972 until now. We will win this division and go onward!

  • @timrobinson100
    @timrobinson100 5 лет назад +3

    what i liked about alf was he told the poisonous media to f off

  • @ay613
    @ay613 4 года назад +1

    proper man

  • @albaproductions9602
    @albaproductions9602 8 лет назад +8

    I hope it's not true but someone told me Alf died alone in an hospital penniless, if he did then shame on the F.A for allowing that to happen.

    • @dlamiss
      @dlamiss 8 лет назад +1

      +Alba Productions According to Leo Mckinstrys bio of him he wasn't penniless but didn't have much cash

    • @albaproductions9602
      @albaproductions9602 8 лет назад

      dlamiss I also heard that Rodney Marsh and some other players from that era had to help pay for some treatment for him.

    • @kasiamhurusheuenesu3182
      @kasiamhurusheuenesu3182 6 лет назад +1

      Alba Productions that is unbelievable Fuck the FA that's why they pay now with lack of success

    • @fredwhite9513
      @fredwhite9513 6 лет назад +4

      I think Bobby Robson was the person who organized this help. Lady Ramsey was very grateful for it.

  • @gregod806
    @gregod806 8 лет назад

    22.57 "Has he got a sense of humour?" Big Jack "Oh aye" Love it.

  • @kasiamhurusheuenesu3182
    @kasiamhurusheuenesu3182 6 лет назад +2

    Sir Alfred Ramsey RIP

  • @DonLusher
    @DonLusher 4 года назад

    Id love to have been at that party in Hamburg!

  • @corinth492
    @corinth492 11 лет назад +1

    He gained just three caps, exactly my point. For someone who reguarly marked George Best and players like him completely out of games he should have had 50. FYI he was being lined up just as a back up right back, not first choice

  • @mjkrbjcw
    @mjkrbjcw 4 года назад

    He’s only 5 yrs older than me here 🤯 crazy

  • @seanreillyireland
    @seanreillyireland 11 лет назад +2

    I kept expecting Carter and Regan to walk into the dressing room!

  • @Warp75
    @Warp75 Год назад +1

    The man from Dagenham sounds frightfully posh…..you wouldn’t Adam & Eve it

  • @garylucas7050
    @garylucas7050 2 месяца назад

    Still the greatest England manager of all time ….

  • @mjb4983
    @mjb4983 3 года назад

    The last of the old days

  • @nathanielkahn9681
    @nathanielkahn9681 11 лет назад +2

    alf ramsey said england would win the world cup in 1966. if he was alive today, he would say belgium will win the world cup in 2014 and he would be right

  • @alanscott6836
    @alanscott6836 4 года назад +1

    According to this vid, Alf was 47 at the time.Looks quite a bit older.
    His dislike of the press is obvious - and understandable.
    To explain himself to people not fit to ask him questions must have been difficult.

    • @seltaeb3302
      @seltaeb3302 2 года назад

      Questions seemed fine to me. He didn't have to do this program & what is good here is nothing is stage managed or trained, just honesty & in the raw. Now you can't say boo, if Fergie didn't like you you got banned. The press didn't seem terrible at all unlike Graham Taylor's bullying by the Press. This was an excellent interview & nothing nasty behind it.

  • @mikeeyre7315
    @mikeeyre7315 4 года назад +2

    Never over - go to 26:13 and in Settings, reduce to 0.25 speed and freeze frame as the ball bounces. It clearly never crossed the line, whatever angle you have of it. Why is this not universally accepted? Hard to fault the lino, but there it is.

  • @seltaeb3302
    @seltaeb3302 2 года назад

    On the coach, Reaney & Cooper told to look out of the window until Sir Alf is finished. He has to think would I cheat at tiddlywinks! Alf just by that you would. Noble man & that's how to make a expose documentary.

  • @wildbill8635
    @wildbill8635 3 года назад +1

    Great documentary, unfussy incisive unlike the soap operas today, also not filmed on video tape but filmed on, er, film! You got natural colours & atmosphere unlike VT. Alf. Well it must be a strain doing these clipped vowels for starters, sorry Alf, to begin with. That Wembley pitch was always a nightmare, it looked like a bog, where was the turf. Oh, Ipswich, that Ramsey team, one player, no doubt called Lofty, must have been Peter Crouch's Granddad!

  • @broken1394
    @broken1394 6 лет назад +7

    Elocution made him sound like Eubank!

  • @johntcashdown1363
    @johntcashdown1363 5 лет назад +1

    CC rider Fabio Capello was paid 12 million a year by the FA and took us to only the second round of the WC in 2010.

  • @lw7090
    @lw7090 4 года назад

    Winner

  • @Kevinasp
    @Kevinasp 3 года назад

    Do you have "Sir Alf" which was on Channel 4 on 29th June 2002.

  • @trickstick84
    @trickstick84 11 лет назад +1

    Not so. Reaney gained three caps and was being lined up as the squad's regular right-back. However, he broke his leg just before the 1970 World Cup.

  • @gammonbaldy1765
    @gammonbaldy1765 3 года назад +1

    Alan Ball and Nobby Stiles would have died for Alf, to me that's says everything.

  • @DutchVanHelsing
    @DutchVanHelsing Год назад

    I think Sir Alf and Tom Landry would have been a demon partnership....

  • @kunle1928
    @kunle1928 5 лет назад +1

    Who is the interviewer/ narrator?

  • @user-si6nz2ns8t
    @user-si6nz2ns8t Месяц назад +1

    He is in my family.

  • @wayneschlaegal
    @wayneschlaegal 12 лет назад

    Classic comb-over on 39:00

  • @chokoholmes9177
    @chokoholmes9177 Год назад

    Erudite and Intelligent. What a change from today…..

  • @MrNewtonian
    @MrNewtonian 2 месяца назад

    Welcome to Scotland Mr Ramsey, you must fucking joking.

  • @samsonwilkinson8090
    @samsonwilkinson8090 3 года назад

    "The strain is the same" - shows footage of a train...

  • @philippaine
    @philippaine 4 года назад +2

    He's my son.

  • @corinth492
    @corinth492 11 лет назад +1

    he never played Reaney though...

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 4 года назад

    Sounds like he started management fairly young, just like Clough but not due to an awful injury

  • @TheWhitehall
    @TheWhitehall 12 лет назад +2

    It must be remembered that back in Ramsey`s day, there were relatively few "black" players in the english game. Unlike nowadays.

    • @chrisbennett606
      @chrisbennett606 4 года назад +6

      Peter Whitehall what's that got to do with anything

    • @ay613
      @ay613 4 года назад +3

      whats ur point?

    • @samsonwilkinson8090
      @samsonwilkinson8090 3 года назад

      So what's your point?

    • @poutsa1974
      @poutsa1974 3 года назад +1

      That's what you got from this documentary? Then your surname is offensive.

    • @JfK--OBJECTivE
      @JfK--OBJECTivE 3 года назад +1

      Maybe you should be called BLACKhall?

  • @trickstick84
    @trickstick84 12 лет назад

    At 21:10 Notice Paul Reaney sitting behind Alf. And yet some people still claim that Ramsey was racist ? It's rubbish.

  • @msingl100
    @msingl100 11 лет назад +1

    We all remember Mexico LLLOL XD

  • @ameliagooding3600
    @ameliagooding3600 6 лет назад +2

    He's my 5th cousin

    • @poutsa1974
      @poutsa1974 3 года назад

      Then the first 4 failed

  • @DutchVanHelsing
    @DutchVanHelsing Год назад

    Shame on that FA for what they did to him and for what they did not do for Cloughie...

  • @veritas4364
    @veritas4364 2 года назад

    42:58 Someone tell Sir Alf that Mexico is in North America.

  • @bachittarlehal1779
    @bachittarlehal1779 7 лет назад +4

    Ramsey should have quit in 1970 after the world cup

    • @fredwhite9513
      @fredwhite9513 6 лет назад +2

      why?

    • @erikjensen6171
      @erikjensen6171 4 года назад

      @@fredwhite9513 because at that time the game and attitude to the game had changed almost completely...Alf Ramsey was from the old generation and didnt like flamboyant players like Osgood, March, Worthington etc...Ramsey did a big mistake not playing Osgood in the 1970 world cup who then was on top of his game and Ramsey did a disastres mistake by taking Charlton out against west germany...Charlton had as in 66 controlled Becenbauer . England could have won the 1970 world cup.

  • @bigladkev3701
    @bigladkev3701 4 года назад

    How dare you call it soccer when england is right next to it

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT 6 лет назад

    Southgate is the new Alf

  • @erdelyhermanadlermena2249
    @erdelyhermanadlermena2249 2 года назад

    El que le grito “ animales” a los argentinos
    Y dijo de la selección mexicana de don nacho Trelles : equipo basura, que no vale nada
    Y gracias a eso se hizo odioso el equipo este , por eso el pueblo mexicano se entregó a Brasil , el mejor de todos los tiempos , por pele aunque precisamente estos caballeros de lengua anglosajona intentaron refrendar el
    Campeonato único de su historia y muy polémico total , los únicos ingleses populares y queridos y con eso bastaba eran the Beatles

    • @That_Random_Bloke
      @That_Random_Bloke 2 года назад

      The Argentina team acted at Wembley in a way Ramsey or England had seen before. Hence the “animals” comment. As for calling Mexico “garbage”. Was this 1966, 1969 or 1970?
      The press in Mexico were prone to making up false stories (not unlike the British press) so it seems strange he would attack another country for no reason. With Argentina, there was most certainly a reason.
      Also, if our country is so odious why are you watching a video about this great man?

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 10 месяцев назад +1

    I man who got England Nowhere in the 1964 European Championships, won the world cup with two goals the should Not have been given, fluffed the 1968 European Championships, Has England winning 2-0 up against West Germany, then Gets Beat 2-3 inthe 1970 World Cup ...again in the 1972 European Championship 1/4 finals West Germany Humiliate Us 1-3 at Wembley and he Could Not Qualify for the 1974 World Cup Finals overall HOPELESS

    • @MrNewtonian
      @MrNewtonian 2 месяца назад

      He won the World Cup , he also took Ipswich from the old third division to win division one. Which England manager has done better?

  • @MrGranfield
    @MrGranfield 2 месяца назад

    After England the only managers job he had was at Birmingham City in 1977/78.

  • @futureLFCnumber9
    @futureLFCnumber9 11 лет назад

    9:31, one of the nicest mean you could ever meet,
    Was he?
    Nope lol

  • @carrington8999
    @carrington8999 3 года назад

    It’s football not soccer.

  • @mega5075
    @mega5075 6 лет назад +5

    When England was white and great world champions #sendthemback

    • @benjamineckford1718
      @benjamineckford1718 4 года назад +2

      MEGA shut up you racist twat

    • @enterzone263
      @enterzone263 3 года назад

      @@benjamineckford1718 racist?? How so?

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 3 года назад

      Trafalgar.. mixed races and nationalities fighting for Britain
      Waterloo.. same.
      WW2.. same.
      Literally the greatest victories in British history.
      We need to send you back, mate. There's a defect in your brain.

    • @veritas4364
      @veritas4364 2 года назад +1

      Weirdo

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 10 лет назад +2

    This is a British production... so why is the silly use of the word ;-/ soccer;-/ being used? I can only assume its for an American (North) audience...The World Name for the World Game is FOOTBALL! ...FACT.

    • @ryaneyre5948
      @ryaneyre5948 9 лет назад +3

      David Cummings Soccer (short for association football) was commonly used in Britain to describe the sport up through the 1960's. If you watch footage of matches in that period the commentators will frequently refer to the sport as soccer. Another example of is this is the British magazine World Soccer, founded in the early 1960's.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 9 лет назад +2

      In reply to Ryan Eyre, Some of what you have said is right, However I will educate you on the hole scenario. ;-/ soccer ;-/ is an English Upper Class shortening for Association Football = you know, the game you kick and control the ball with your feet!, hence Football. When playing Football in the English town of Rugby in the late 19th century... those Upper Class Snobs, picked up the ball and ran with it, thus the formation of the game of Rugby or "Raggah" as those Upper Class Snobs said... The game of Rugby (2 codes) Rugby Union, played by the English Upper Class and Rugby League, played by English Working Class people. The game of Rugby is were North American football comes from ... so in reality, it should have been called American Rugby!.To End... The World Name, for the World Game of FOOTBALL is without doubt as our world governing body F.I.F.A. = the Federation of International Football Associations... So ;-/ soccer ;-/ is a outdated word used by None Football people, go around the world and say Football and the round ball will come out and our "Beautiful Game" will commence FACT.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 8 лет назад

      Appreciated ... Thanks!.

    • @michaelmetcalfe4882
      @michaelmetcalfe4882 5 лет назад

      @@merseydave1 From what I have read, that isn't quite the case. In the 19th Century public schools began to feel that there was value in having their boys engage in active, competitive team sports, like "football". The early form of football didn't have clear and universal rules, except: two teams, some kind of ball, some kind of goal at each end of a playing area, being able to use your hands or feel to move the ball, and that's pretty much it. Otherwise there was significant regional differences on how violent the game was allowed to be generally, how many players were on each team, how long a game would last etc etc etc.
      In places like Rugby that had wide open fields to play in, the game didn't initially evolve all that much, until specific rules about what kind of tackling was permitted eventually created the kind of game that greatly encouraged running forward with the ball in hand, mostly if not exclusively. Other schools (I believe, equally posh schools) with less space invented a variation that discourage handling and involved dribbling the ball forward with your feet, mostly if not exclusively. In these early stages the game, still without a clear set of rules, was exported to places like USA, Ireland, Italy and Australia who in time created their own versions.
      Attempts in England were made to synthesise the two games, the one with ball carrying and the one with dribbling, even after the Football Association was formed, but an agreement couldn't be reached and in the 1860s (I think it was), the FA officially outlawed the use of hands to carry the ball, and the two sports (Association Football and Rugby Football) went their separate ways forever.
      Sometime thereafter both sports left the confines of the public school and Association Football grew into the vastly most popular version of the game, in the UK and in most of the rest of the world, and the rest is history.
      Apologies if that was tl;dr for some, and I'm mostly going off memory so there may be a small fact or two in the above that isn't 100%, but that is the gist of the story, as I understand it.

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 4 года назад

      @@michaelmetcalfe4882 Thanks for the patronizing historic overview ... As if I didn't know that ... What you chose to dismiss is the outdated English Upper Class shortening/nicknaming of Association into ;-/soccer;-/ .... They did the same with Rugby Union saying "Ragah" As you must know, (I assume) that's where American Grid Iron comes from! To Conclude Rugby an Oval ball handling game (along with grid iron). Football a game of two teams kicking/controlling a round Football with their FEET ... That is why the vast majority of the world calls if FOOTBALL !!! fact.