Dojo Timmy SPEAKS Out On Problems Facing With Dezign & Genburten

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Комментарии • 103

  • @ggcrunchyz
    @ggcrunchyz 14 часов назад +101

    You got an ex igl, a player that was igled by the best igl and a newish igl playing together. It’s going to take time for them to understand their own roles.

    • @estfatul744
      @estfatul744 14 часов назад +4

      it really shouldnt lmao

    • @jervi2391
      @jervi2391 13 часов назад +1

      Best igl? 😂😂😂 . Noway you think zero is the best igl . Or maybe I'm misunderstanding and you not talking about zero. Hal not igl anymore. But hal is the best. He has the credentials to hack that up. Winning more than anyone even in other random teams he wins. But I understand if you just like zero. I respect your opinion. Not a fact. Just a opinion but I respect it.

    • @JohnSmith-zk3kd
      @JohnSmith-zk3kd 12 часов назад +19

      @@jervi2391 Zero and Hal are both the best IGLs stat wise and opinion wise by most other pros and people who play the game.

    • @connorflegal9575
      @connorflegal9575 11 часов назад +2

      @@jervi2391 Zero and Hal were equally good igls, been watching apex forever and that is THE FACT

    • @mightypensword
      @mightypensword 11 часов назад +12

      @@jervi2391 Didn't Hal say he thought Zero was the best IGL?

  • @jupiterapollo4985
    @jupiterapollo4985 10 часов назад +77

    Timmy calling himself "naturally asserting" is one of the funniest jokes I've ever heard. Dude's one of the most passive personalities in the whole of Apex comp lmao

    • @walker3551
      @walker3551 9 часов назад +1

      😂

    • @kiloDelta-wo6gm
      @kiloDelta-wo6gm 9 часов назад +2

      I think he’s type A and very polite so struggles with being assertive. He’s not the most passive but really non confrontational

    • @hagridOG
      @hagridOG 9 часов назад

      legit lol

    • @meteorjuice4088
      @meteorjuice4088 7 часов назад +7

      In good faith I can see Timmy being honest if he’s using the word correctly, he has no issues expressing his thoughts and feelings if he needs something done. The difference is his default in conveying it isn’t as aggressive or attention grabbing and he’s learning to do that.
      Most Apex players you’d consider “assertive” sound like controlled tantrums to be honest

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 5 часов назад

      @@meteorjuice4088 No he's just passive. he constantly gets talked over in groups, and communicates in a way in which it seems like he's overthinking his thoughts to not offend anyone. From what I've seen he also seems to have quite a hard time with confrontation.

  • @humansnotbots-y8l
    @humansnotbots-y8l 13 часов назад +32

    I know we all gave Hal a lot of shit for his igl style back in the day but he did a couple things that actually worked really well. I remember times in tournaments when he would just straight up ask the boys to generate ideas with him in a moment, whether it was a rotate or another play, and there were also times he’d just tell everyone to shut up so he could think! If Timmy can find a different way to do that I’m sure things will work a lot better

    • @TheTopStarz
      @TheTopStarz 12 часов назад +9

      Exactly, a lot of casual players love to criticise Hal's IGL-ing but it actually worked really well, making him top 3 IGLs in the game since it started, arguably number 1 when it comes to producing results

    • @tomhack4318
      @tomhack4318 10 часов назад +6

      Nobody criticizes Hal's IGLing. What is to be criticized is his attitude towards his mates. And we are not talking about "Shut up" - thats common talk.
      We talk about "Gimme shield, you stupid bitch!" - excuse me, what?! 😅
      You can be succesful and still relatively chill, look at Hakis.
      Whenever it seems that some IGL who is not constantly yelling (and by the way still succesful currently) has some issues within his team, there is always a comment pointing out "they did Hal bad".
      No, "they" did not. Hal is maybe the best IGL ever, but with one of the worst attitudes, same as Zero.
      You can be direct and tell people to do this and shut up - but you dont need to insult.

    • @humansnotbots-y8l
      @humansnotbots-y8l 8 часов назад

      @@tomhack4318 I agree!

    • @calebnothin67
      @calebnothin67 6 часов назад +1

      @@tomhack4318if you choose falcons and tsm and mad at hal that’s really your fault. You shouldve thought about that before joining. Hal is a very cool guy with a great personality

  • @Maliek-h3h
    @Maliek-h3h 13 часов назад +12

    Gen is my favorite apex player but I got to admit he definitely does say kinda talk more than he listens in an aspect

    • @TheTopStarz
      @TheTopStarz 12 часов назад

      true true

    • @OrangeSoda1432
      @OrangeSoda1432 56 минут назад

      If you leave one team because of problems with the igl and then you join another team and you’re having problems again, you’re the problem.

  • @gregzurita7955
    @gregzurita7955 15 часов назад +22

    I noticed this in a previous gameplay video. Gen was calling plays and making them as he was comming, it lead to gen wasting catalyst ult cause Timmy didn't wanna engage. Gen needs to wait until Timmy makes the call.

    • @mimiftp
      @mimiftp 15 часов назад +2

      I agree, but Timmy isn't as assertive as he needs to be. Gen did lose them a game when he was solo'd but ran away and into another team. Idk what blgs game it was.

    • @Mikoru-
      @Mikoru- 13 часов назад

      ⁠@@mimiftp you gotta understand, being assertive comes with experience and confidence in one’s own field.
      Ex: throw an introvert into a room of extroverts, the introvert would struggle with being assertive until they “get comfortable/confident”.
      Maybe a bad example, but, you get the gist.
      Sorry really tired atm.

    • @justrhaze7072
      @justrhaze7072 12 часов назад +1

      @@mimiftpTimmy doesn’t need to be *that* assertive. If He’s the IGL, Gen needs to follow, not do his own thing and get the entire team penalized for it. Timmy says no, it’s a no. unless gen can convince him otherwise to make an informed decision based on the facts in front of gen, that he relays back to Timmy.

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 10 часов назад

      @@Mikoru- It comes with experience and confidence, but a huge part of it is also a personality trait. Timmy doesn't really have a assertive type of personality and maybe he can get used to the igl style and make better comms, but he's just a very passive individual. Hence the reason these huge personalities like Dezign or Gen have a hard time hearing him or paying attention. They should listen to him anyway because he's the igl, but when your igl squeaks in the mic or sounds unsure of himself it's gonna cause some problems.

  • @casualdel
    @casualdel 13 часов назад +7

    It’s worth noting quite a few times these past scrims where dezignful got killed trying to save the other two during a rez or bad spot. Timmy calls frag heavy which can put back line in bad spots. I hope dezign haters recognize this.

    • @tristan6066
      @tristan6066 10 часов назад +2

      Idk i've been watching a lot this past week, and dezign gets caught out a good bit. Much less "trying to save the other 2". Usually it's him claiming they need to fight for space that the others don't think they need or him getting beamed out of position doing god knows what (ig scouting or smth)

    • @tristan6066
      @tristan6066 10 часов назад +1

      part of it is that i dont think he's comfortable on the characters he's playing currently

    • @211Mik3
      @211Mik3 3 часа назад

      facts bro. I been watching and timmy be trying to push shit they don't need too.. I remember watching a game gen was telling timmy they have god spot and to chill. what does timmy do? crack one and starts screaming to ape and he got knocked. and another team pushes in and kills design and gen... like if he listens to gen who said they had god spot and there was another team there they win.

  • @TheTopStarz
    @TheTopStarz 12 часов назад +14

    I'm hearing mixed info about Dezign, he either is comming too much or is not comming enough 😂 which one is it ? but I think the best solution forward is to let Dezign co-igl and let Gen give less input and focus on beaming people as he usually does but right now, like Timmy said they're both giving too much input

    • @frappexd_2959
      @frappexd_2959 10 часов назад

      I think he’s talking about the situation at the bridge where design was counter calling a lot but design has gotten better and not being as angry toward shit

    • @TheTopStarz
      @TheTopStarz 9 часов назад +1

      @@frappexd_2959 ohh yeah I know that situation but I’d say the phrase ‘counter calling’ doesn’t fit that situation, to me it sounded like he didn’t want them making a reckless play that’ll cost them the game because he knew they were in the winning position, because it did sound like Timmy could drop down to get his finish cost the game since he had already fell off the bridge a minute before, Dezign was mainly saying let them fight below and kill each other and they’ll come finish whoever is left

    • @christianalbarran6544
      @christianalbarran6544 5 часов назад

      Not only that but also venting to his chat which most hate dezign and comparing him to enemy and others like what good does that do all of haters are just going to shit on dezign and say drop him

  • @hagridOG
    @hagridOG 8 часов назад +4

    one of the most rational and well articulated of all time

    • @rym7174
      @rym7174 7 часов назад +1

      Timmy hasn't articulated anything properly in his entire life. Listening to him trying to form sentences is comparable to nails on a chalkboard board

    • @mattm7426
      @mattm7426 7 часов назад

      That's sarcasm right???

  • @ngnl_irisoul
    @ngnl_irisoul Час назад

    This shit is crazy for timmy tbh
    Dezign - HIs Ex-igl and honestly a pgood one when it comes to lan finals
    Gen - Played with both the top 2 IGLs of all time

  • @urbanops9882
    @urbanops9882 11 часов назад +4

    Didn’t waltzy say the same thing about Timmy?

  • @LauritsTTCampen
    @LauritsTTCampen 3 часа назад

    He needs the CEO aura, Hal has gathered through years of being toxic xD

  • @Cheddarchini
    @Cheddarchini 12 часов назад +1

    Before every game talk with the team. What do we want what's our goal this game? Once your in game igl calls plays. After the game ends and between matches take input and consideration from your teammates and implicate what you think is valuable in the next game. Rinse and repeat.

  • @mattm7426
    @mattm7426 7 часов назад +5

    So obvious that Enemy should replace dezign

  • @KalexVII
    @KalexVII 12 часов назад +1

    Damn bro someone get timmy a noise gate

  • @ShockinglyAverageApex
    @ShockinglyAverageApex 3 часа назад +2

    Timmy will likely never flourish as a solo igl, especially with this team. Design will never give up the reigns bc he's convinced that he knows whats best in the moment, you can't control somebody like that

  • @dylanlittle8033
    @dylanlittle8033 13 часов назад +5

    They all have flaws atm Timmy had thrown away games by being way over aggressive and not listening to basic game play,
    Gen has probably some of the best game awareness in the scene , I think giving him co igl with zones would be cracked and let Timmy call fights, let design chill and anchor
    This team could be great ngl

    • @caivibe2575
      @caivibe2575 13 часов назад +1

      Agreed Timmy and gen worked well bouncing off each other.

  • @Seatrilla
    @Seatrilla 13 часов назад

    Timmy when you tell them to be quiet say it with your chest!

  • @guppy90rl81
    @guppy90rl81 4 часа назад +2

    Design not making teams angry challenge (impossible)

  • @badassmexican9479
    @badassmexican9479 3 часа назад

    Finally people will see why Hal and zero were like that . Against good players you have to be assertive because they also have ego and think their play is better

  • @JustDeacon
    @JustDeacon 12 часов назад +3

    We always knew it wouldn't work. Standard Gen.

    • @Hoseki09
      @Hoseki09 10 часов назад +2

      standard gen? Gen stayed with his teammates for years. Standard dezign you mean.

  • @goliathsauce7919
    @goliathsauce7919 6 часов назад

    Imo i think dezign should be co-igl with the macro and rotations and timmy solo igl in micro decisions and calling all the fights, also dezign needs to play closer to timmy or genburten because he always dies first no matter what situation. All and all i think this squad has all the potential in world to do extremely well

  • @lagunacinematics
    @lagunacinematics 4 часа назад

    Apex esport comms seem so unorganized and argumentative compared to other esports. Im very curious as to whether a team eventually will ever create a fluid and efficient comm system.

  • @Raja-it8en
    @Raja-it8en 9 часов назад

    imagine he picked up phony instead of gen
    or let design igl
    they're cooked

    • @fateaglio
      @fateaglio Час назад

      Design igl'ed his last team no? And they didn't even make lan

    • @Raja-it8en
      @Raja-it8en Час назад

      @@fateaglio desizn igled previous team before that and finished top 5 top 8 every lan before that
      Why desizn has champs spot because they finished 7th last lan ??
      So just because he didn't make 1 lan doesn't mean he can't igl
      What timmy had done to Deserve IGL ???

  • @luismiguel7640
    @luismiguel7640 13 часов назад +7

    Sorry. Its not gonna work. Timmy is venting with the world and not having real human talks with his team. Those issues should be talked between them 3. All the fans need to see is performance not the soap opera! Timmy need to grow some balls.

    • @komalthecoolk
      @komalthecoolk 13 часов назад

      He's afraid to lose his team for the games

    • @wibes6043
      @wibes6043 13 часов назад

      Are you a fucking moron? You really think they haven't talked about these things? Not everything needs to be on stream my guy, "timmy is venting to the world" lmao, he is answering a question from the chat when someone asked about his thoughts on their performance. The "i didn't see it so it for sure didn't happen" is one of the stupidest things you could have written about the situation and you managed to do it, congrats.

    • @Arithmeticspidershoelace
      @Arithmeticspidershoelace 12 часов назад +3

      They’ve probably talked about it as a team prior to this

    • @ImPacTMaSTer1
      @ImPacTMaSTer1 5 часов назад

      Youre an idiot

  • @LON3WOLFMcQuade
    @LON3WOLFMcQuade 6 часов назад

    All teams are like that. You need your people to be confident. This is leadership problem with every team and y Hal was successful. Hal says shut the fuck up and do this now. While everyone is calling. A IGL is leader a leader means more then single file. You have to know what you need and what to ignore then make the call that brings success and what your team can handle

  • @kudohlol9379
    @kudohlol9379 3 часа назад

    One track one mind. Unified Line >>>> 3 Chiefs with different ideas.

  • @jacobsalcido5891
    @jacobsalcido5891 14 часов назад

    Its crazy how many randoms that don't use mics in ranked and than say or don't wanna play on the guy making calls!! Me
    And yeah my boy Mando throws out his opinion and we die. Love Tim is a p.i.m.p

    • @tomhack4318
      @tomhack4318 10 часов назад

      Just because someone doesnt use a mic but you do, doesnt mean you are you making the right calls.

  • @plz_no_shootz2013
    @plz_no_shootz2013 5 часов назад

    How can anyone here make comments about dezign comming or not when he’s always dead 😂. Dude needs to go

  • @mattyuste8518
    @mattyuste8518 12 часов назад

    Drop design pickup Hal

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 9 часов назад +1

      Hal would never join a team like this with a untested Igl 😂

    • @malerightsusa
      @malerightsusa 9 часов назад

      ​@@jupiterapollo4985they better than falcons and hal can always IGL himself.

    • @mattm7426
      @mattm7426 7 часов назад

      Or enemy

  • @ChazzyPhizzle1
    @ChazzyPhizzle1 48 минут назад

    Timmy is the opposite of assertive. If he wants to be IGL he needs to learn how to be or at least let that side out.

  • @mk33n3y
    @mk33n3y 7 часов назад

    Having 2 IGLs will cause all sorts of problems. You either co or respect the 2nd IGL. If you want your own way then designful needs dropped. He'll always have that igl blood which is fine. But he needs his own team.

  • @chickenliver1000-r3i
    @chickenliver1000-r3i 6 часов назад

    These guys are ganna do good calling it. They all got something to prove now thats ganna be dangerous for everyone else

  • @nikobobich9726
    @nikobobich9726 13 часов назад

    this younger generation is a mess and the apex pro scene is a joke no loyalty and way to much confusion

  • @JognDasHerbNA
    @JognDasHerbNA 3 часа назад

    Everyone just wants to be leader. They can lead their own team

  • @flatkingwest7553
    @flatkingwest7553 7 часов назад

    Zero isn’t the best Igl when u win what tsm have with Hal back to back to back win to take championship didn’t crumble that’s the best igl

    • @ChaoticMuchX
      @ChaoticMuchX 52 минуты назад

      Ironically when Hal was asked who is the best IGL in apex, he said zero is a better IGL than him. That's why he choose to join falcons and let zero IGL. You would think someone like Hal who has great game sense and leadership would know which player is best to follow orders from and he chose Zero to be that guy. It speak volumes

    • @flatkingwest7553
      @flatkingwest7553 47 минут назад

      @@ChaoticMuchX well not many people have noticed but watch back all of darkzero lan tourneys and falcons which isn’t many they crumble when they don’t have the luck of zone pull Hal made it work! Hal’s record speaks for itself and tbh they should of had 3 lans back to back to back if that horizon q never was griefed there way!

    • @flatkingwest7553
      @flatkingwest7553 46 минут назад

      @@ChaoticMuchX but also it’s my opinion everyone is entitled to theirs

  • @user-wl4xr8lb1e
    @user-wl4xr8lb1e 6 часов назад +2

    Timmy is so passive aggressive lol his comms are horrible and this team will explode.

  • @carlosgutierrez6431
    @carlosgutierrez6431 4 часа назад

    Yapper

  • @carlosgutierrez6431
    @carlosgutierrez6431 4 часа назад

    🥱😴

  • @nexxusty
    @nexxusty 4 часа назад

    Timmy won't do well at this. Sorry bro, you aint an IGL.

  • @maintank785
    @maintank785 6 часов назад

    Timmy follows Hasan? L

  • @illrhymes25
    @illrhymes25 4 часа назад

    they need to drop dezignful hes just not good anymore

  • @1234epps
    @1234epps 7 часов назад

    The elephant is the room you already tried to cut loose from design now your stuck back with him he sucks I’m sorry he’s not good

  • @ryanclark9386
    @ryanclark9386 5 часов назад

    Dezign is being a douche go figure

  • @greenmonk941991
    @greenmonk941991 3 часа назад

    Dezinful should be kicked

  • @Septurez
    @Septurez 12 часов назад

    oof that voice crack