Shadows of The Damned - What Happened?
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I never understand why they always have this belief that westerners won't play weird Japanese games. They practically revived the video game industry after the crash.
It's because COD broke through, console online multiplayer became a thing and Microsoft made serious inroads with the XBox 360.
cause most don't do that. the casual gamer crowd(the probably biggest part of our consumerbase) only buys one sports game, one cod and/or battlefield and 2 flavor of the month AAA titles per year.
they don't buy games that take up a lot of time, they don't buy experimental indies and they sure as hell don't buy games with complex gameplay loops and mechanics.
they usually avoid weird genres( and genres that are only seen as weird). you usually won't see one of them play an immersive sim or roguelike/lite.
they are pefectly content with their copy of maddenXX.
Largest selling games are all Western ones (Minecraft sitting pretty on 200 million+ copies sold).
GTA does north of 100 million per game, COD/EA Sports titles usually sell north of 20 million. God knows how many billions Fornite has made.
Publishers want all of their franchises to sell that much, no exceptions, and so will load the dice to follow the money every time. Hell, they don't care if you even play the game, as long as you bought it (and the DLC where applicable).
@@Amanojaku8 With this list it really helps my point. All the best selling games have something to entice people to keep playing once the shooting gets old. Minecraft, GTA, and sports games all let people role-play some fantasy they otherwise wouldn't get to do. If you're marketing a game to westerners, its insane to think the main factor is the gun. So the EA execs saying "Westerners want guns" is completely missing the point of all those successful games.
@@CleverCover05 The comment on the fact they're "all western ones" doesn't hold water either. Several Mario games, including the first, are pretty far up there (at least according to Wikipedia), along with the Legend of Zelda, etc.
I believe, however, it was a pretty different environment in c. 2008-2010. If you look at the "best selling games of 2008-2010" you'll see a glut of either FPS or Third-Person Shooters. In addition, this is before the debut of Amnesia: The Dark Descent. Survival Horror where you're not shooting a gun was not in the public imagination.
An "elevator pitch" for EA is one where the elevator ride has the cable cut.
Really, I thought an EA 'elevator pitch' would be for a 2-floor building.
And the final floor is the flames of the inferno
EA basically said: "y u make babby game? y u not schut?"
Dontee iz gud, and bezt in gaem
Damn of shadow is baest gaem, shuüt strooberry into beby mouph for open door
I actually got a little sad when Makami described Suda as "Heartbroken". Suda seems like such a wonderful and fun person in a professional environment. To take that away is just heartless, I expect nothing less of EA.
With EA you should expect less than nothing tbh.
That why he made the evil within the vision out if respect to his friend.
stories like this are every creative person's nightmare
why even live
That's one of the reasons I like this show. It's a good look into what to avoid.
@@engitions yeah and he did it multiple times till he got what Electronic Farts wanted at the end of the day, god it must've broke him...
You can tell it was for Suda and then some, especially when you see how this whole experience leaked into Travis Strikes Again
Dear God, YES! I hate it when people pull out marketing algorithms as if they're the be-all and end-all of how making entertainment works.
As if you can't make a break through ideas or something.
EA: Why don't you make a game with us-
Famous Game Director: NO
More like anyone who has a brain and isn't desperate enough to literally make a deal with devil
hearing of Shadow of the damned makes me feel i am hearing a mockbuster of devil may cry
EA: Why don't you make us lots of money by letting us use your name?
Famous Game Director: ( ͡° ͟ʖ ͡°)
Normally EA comes to developers who are having a hard time and closing doors, then they give them a offer they can't refuse.
@@boitahaki Ah. So in a way, those people are literally doing a "about to die, so I better make a deal with the Devil to gain a second chance" bit.
What I wouldn't give to get Suda's unfiltered version of his original Kurayami.
Same, there's not a lot of psychological horrors in video games
If I recall he eventually released a comic or novel based around his original vision
...I've suddenly got an idea for a psychological horror game in which all the creatures are bloated, creatively bankrupt EA execs who lounge around stopping players from doing anything interesting...
@@hayterfan Yeah that was mentioned towards the end of the video. Still, gameplay wised sounded really interesting.
@@GraveReaperCushions Sooooo Anthem?
What pisses me off the most is that Demon's Souls was released around this time and began an entire subgenre. One that it sounds like Darkness would have fit into perfectly without actually "ripping off"
Demon Souls wasn't actually appreciated until a year or so after its release
Demon's Souls didn't launch the genre. It was the Wolfenstein to Dark Souls' Doom.
@@SonicKid7 that's ridiculous. Dark souls is 1:1 demons souls but it's open world now. Doom improved significantly on wolfenstein. The same can't be said for dark souls
@@r.graves5531 Dark Souls had the bonus of being multiplat. That's how it made a greater impact
@@SonicKid7 I don't know about all that. It was fairly popular even before Dark Souls. It was more niche, but it definitely had a presence.
Indie games after a critically and financial success: Time to make my adventure into success
EA: N O !
This is one of those sad, disappointing episodes of wha happun.
Let our silly japanese auteurs make their interesting games!
Game developers, for the love of God,
*DO. NOT. TRUST. EA. WITH. YOUR. IDEAS.*
They almost destroyed Oddworld because they almost got their IP itself, NEVER GIVE UP YOUR IP
I actually enjoyed Shadows Of The Damned. Wasn’t a masterpiece by any means, but it was fun. I kinda miss the times where we’d get these sort of B-Movie games.
Yeah, it was an ok game, I liked. Will even replay it someday.
Also enjoyed shadows of the damned
Same here, do kinda miss games like this. Would like it if Lollipop Chainsaw came back though, i would be down for that.
@@residentevilclone I mean Wha Happun isn't about bad games necessarily its about games with weird development histories and this one clearly meets the criteria
It really sucks that everything has to be major blockbuster bullcrap.
Imagine making your locally famous killer ramen but then the chef comes in, shits in it and says "they gonna love this"
Not even that. The Chef basically came out, and dumped out most of the Ramen and Broth, and stuffed what remaining noodles into a big fucking greasy, butter coated "American" mess of a burger, claiming that People are gonna love this version better.
@@MrSadisticLlama Oi, murican burgers are good bitch. Idk why you made that comparison, lmao
@@Ghost1170 burgers are good. the point they're making is that taking something thats already good or possibly better, and changing it into something people already know is good to the point of possibly being tired of it, and saying its a better idea is stupid.
One thing you can say, Matt didn't mention a single thing about the game itself. The game is fine, nothing ground breaking, but if this is what we got after 5 revisions and EA muddling then the original concept must have been something interesting for sure.
he kind of did mentionin the reviews, the point itself was how much it sucks to have your original idea changed by a greedy company just because "americans dont want to think they want guns and lame jokes"
Almost like people forget this show is about the craziness behind the scenes and not the actual project itself.
Honestly, I don't remember hearing about this game when it would have been new, and but from what I've seen here it could be my kind of thing. Hopefully those disappointing sales number don't mean the game is expensive or hard to find used now though...
There are of course several cases where the voice lines don't match to whom they are saying. That is because according to Steve Blum in an interview, at one point, a Spanish actor was going to voice Garcia as evident in the trailers. The higher ups founds it less interesting and hired Blum so that Garcia has more of an accent. The whole redubbing was done in just one day.
As far as glitches are concerned, it's because Japan was unfamiliar with using Unreal Engine at that time.
So yeah... I'm surprised that Matt never mentioned them. At least this whole tragic story is the least bad compared to today when trash such as Battlefield V, Star Wars Battlefront 2, and all of the horrendous EA sports game are being vomited down to our throats (including the recent, FIFA 21: Championship Edition).
@@ForrestFox626 the amount of people pointing out "but L.A Noire was good tho" for its episode was headache-inducing. as if only bad games are susceptible to controversy smh
"So what's this game going to be about?"
"The main character has a nice watch."
Has shades of that one Devil May Cry twitter tweet about DMC2 when the Switch port was revealed, where the only thing they had to say about it was essentially "Dante has a cool jacket".
That Serious Moonlight level in Travis Strikes Again is so weirdly sad. The entire level is basically a fourth wall breaking conversation with Suda himself as he airs his laments about Shadows of the Damned directly to the player. I'm just glad it didn't turn into a completely negative memory for him and that he seems to have some fondness for it now going forward.
Despite it’s flaws, I do love Shadows of the Damned.
I’m adding Meddling with Shadows of the Damned to my list of reasons I hate EA..... and that list is already big enough.
Every time I see that EA is involved, I can't help but feel bad for whoever they 'work with.
They also greatly meddled with Alice Madness Returns which caused the removal of boss fights (besides 1 at the end), story segments in the real world (including sections where you control Alice running away from the police), and other material. I'm honestly shocked EA let the story of Madness Returns pass considered its tackling of child abuse and mental illness.
I have EA Play, lucky me I'm getting these games and Alice. Wish Lost Planet was on Ea Play too, and I'm getting all the Crysis man.😱
Its a book at this stage
“Oh, hi EA…”
I felt that.
So EA took interest in the product, but only insofar as they wanted to literally remake the whole thing as Dumber May Cry?
@@CeHee123 Discount Resident May Cry.
Considering that DMC 1 was originally conceived as the first build for RE 4, both comparisons are quite valid.
Ppl stpd mention dmc when its nothing even close morelike a med version of re 4
Moral of the story: Leave Suda51 to his own devices.
@@thegsk if only it wassnt a grind feast it would've been a good game
@@thegsk Wasn't Let it Die directed by someone else?
Not just Suda51 but when you have 3 of perhaps the greatest and most well known Japanese games developers not named Kojima in one place wanting to work on the same project you let them make whatever the hell they want. Just shows more really how clueless EA were and are about anything not going on in America, or even apparently that Western audiences actually enjoy weird Japanese games at all. Not realising how stupid that is when Silent Hill, Resident Evil 4 and everything Suda51 has ever made are all weird Japanese games everyone loves.
@@Noobie2k7 core gamers in general love weird games not just japanese ones
@@avenged-khaos most of the mainstream one didn't though
Man, suda needs to make his original idea. That sounded like it could’ve been a great game.
Well Kurayami wasn't completely discarded, he turned it into a manga called Kurayami Dance. I'd really recommend it, it's a really good read, it even ties into Travis Strikes Again and Red Blue and Green in some small ways.
The fact that Suda could still make Kurayami and still pass over unassuming eyes that it had any involvement with Shadows of the Damned shows just how much ea really changed shit
I'm...actually a bit torn on this one.
On the one hand, the final game does look pretty cheesy and awesome, kinda like an Evil Dead. But when you hear about everything Suda had planned, the final game pales in comparison. Like, if Suda51 could make a Silent Hill-like game, I think most of us would love it. (If it went better than his attempt at Fatal Frame, that is.)
A game can be technically sound and disappointing at the same time.
A vague fantasy premise that can be as perfect as you imagine it is always going to sound better than a real product with real flaws.
Came here after the announcement of the remaster to see what the game is about.
Same
I think Sonic Xtreme would make a great “Wha Happun” episode. Multiple engine changes, difficult hardware to develop for, numerous changes of direction from multiple different sides of the company, and a member of the development team nearly dying working on the game.
and the fact that it was around 70% done when Sega had them scrap the game, is also a kick to the balls..
That games development is so legendary I think he'd have to make a small documentary/short film to truly do it justice imo. I think Duke Nukem Forever is the only game with a more infamous development history than sonic Xtreme.
@@squigin3380 Woah, it's on Duke Nukem levels of infamy? Now I HAVE to hear this story
@@sambradley9091 One of the people working on it(lead dev iirc) legit almost died cause of how many work hours he was putting in, he got sick and still worked insane hours. It basically kept getting delayed and changed so much we never got a true full sonic installment on saturn. Its not as long as dnf but has a lot of similar issues.
Sad to see that it got cancelled...
As much as I loved this game for how dumb it was, I love suda's vision better and wish he could make what he wanted originally.
Even though I watched the video, I’m still kind of baffled how we went from Suda’s original concept to the final product.
@@gdhuertas07 it was a but more silly but nothing much
Okay first: Holy shit I didn't know Suda was involved with Report in Hell. That explains some things. XD
But on the actual topic, I feel real bad for Suda especially with Mikami saying he could tell his friend's heart wasn't entirely in it.
the news station is the same one from killer 7. in fact killer 7 references and connects lots of his previous works.
I'm genuinely surprised EA would give the license back the Suda regardless of how worthless they felt it was. Most of the time it seems like these big companies would rather own as many IP's as they can even if nothing is done with them instead of letting someone else make use of it.
That's how bad EA effed it up. And they wonder why they're hated lol
Anyone: Ok, here are some great, original ideas we can use for the game
EA: ...Well, the chart says
Solid NC reference. Wouldn’t surprise me if those characters actually work for EA
The fact that we'll never have Purgatorio or Paradiso sequels to Dante's Inferno makes my life sad.
Me too, Dante's Paradiso would have been awesome.
@@dr.velious5411 Yes! I heard someone at Naughty Dog really loved Dante's Inferno and wanted to work on a sequel or something.
@@j.h.181 And GOW Ragnarok director love Castlevania, and wanted to make a new triple A Castlevania games if he was given the chance. Think like this make me wish Konami and EA just sold some of their property to others who clearly has passion to make it
"Game needs to be a shooter or it wont sell"
EA shooter sells poorly
"I see no flaws in my logic"
*Dead Space 1 and 2*
"Okay, it's a shooter, but it's not made the way we like it. Fix it or it won't sell well"
*Dead Space 3*
"This is your fault because you did exactly what we told you to do. We're shutting you down, Visceral"
Honestly, I loved this game when it came out. I really wanted an RE 4 style shooter at the time, and this scratched that itch. Had B Horror visuals, great gunplay, cool enemies, and a quirky sense of humor. Any shortcomings were lost on me while I played it. Without any knowledge that this was the product of a ton of compromise, and unfulfilled artistic vision, I was definitely able to enjoy it for what it was: just a silly, gory good time.
Honestly this is one of the first stories on this show that directly pissed me off. The original concept was so cool and interesting, but EA isn’t interested in interesting, they want what’ll appeal to the most amount of people possible
I actually completed Shadows of the Damned and Dante's Inferno through Xbox BC not so long ago. As much as I despise EA I have to give them credit for greenlighting both games. After completing both the first thing that came to mind was that neither one of these games would ever see the day of light in 2021 in their current forms. I'm really glad I've got both in my collection.
"He can't just wisecrack to himself."
Dante has entered the chat.
? Dante usually is speaking to someone, enemies/friends/etc.
@@MattMcMuscles ah see I wasn't counting the enemies. In the video when you say that I wasn't picturing, "literally no one around him. And he's just blabbing at air" I was thinking like Dante surrounded by enemies that don't talk. Like the opening of DmC3.
Hey while I have you Matt. Keep up the good work! I've watched your 3DO video a couple times now. And wha happun is like a go to sleep aid for me. It's good shit :)
@@Pleasestoptalkingthanks I mean Dante is literally that douche that will wisecrack at himself in the mirror thinking he's hot shit.
To be honest, Dante and Garcia could be great friends. Just saying.
I love Shadow of the Damned, one of my favorite games of the entire generation. It's really satisfying to play & has this mega goofy, exaggerated style that's so funny to me. It's almost hilariously "edgy" in a way that reads like parody, the main character chugs whiskey as a power-up, it's hilarious.
"Sometimes having to compromise the vision and wild ideas of an auteur isn't always the best course of action."
Too bad some companies see what's marketable in the present instead of taking that risk these days.
Honestly, I liked the game as it came out. Shame the game that was supposed to be made when they started never got made though.
Strangest twist in it all. Feels the usual outcome of these situations is the big company keeps the IP like a piece of dragon loot and just sits on it. In this case, EA just handed/sold it back with out much incident, instead of just saying "We published it, we own it now!" Think it's because it's a Japanese made IP and not one made in the west? Just feels like something you never see an American game company do with IPs these days.
Damned was part of EA's partners program. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the devs within the program keep their IP.
I'm fond of this game, no matter how flawed it is. Glad to see it referenced in the recent No More Heroes.
Also, since you said you’d be open to do an episode on a show like Rise of the TMNT, could you also do one on Beware the Batman? From executive meddling and censorship, to lack of toy support and fan backlash, and a MESSY release schedule, I think it would be a great fit for this series.
I second the motion. Another good fit would be Thundercats (2011). It was such the perfect blend of scifi and fantasy that respects the original while also forging it's own path. It still pisses me off that it was cancled, doubly so now that CN greenlit a Teen Titans Go (an already bad show) ripoff with the Thundercats.
Destiny 1's development history is pretty interesting with how it went and the many ideas they scrapped to eventually make a game with no story at all but some pretty amazing lore that could only be found on a website separate from the game instead of in game.
you just reminded me how pissed i was with that. you cant put all of the important bits of the lore separate from the actual game and gave that game a generic and no existent story
I was waiting so much for it and tbh i absolutely loved everything about Shadows of the Damned! The hero,story, bosses stories,ending theme, the hell world,gameplay,menus & art style, the dark comedy, everything ticked just right, i hope for a sequel for Garcia,Johnson & Paula, i loved the journey and the batner between these two was so good 😂❤ i wish Suda can make the game he wanted but this one was fantastic to me thru and thru!
A savory EA dish with a sweet "Let's make it appeal to the West." glaze. **chef's kiss**
A lovely blend of salty spicy and bitter
Well there are plenty of japanese games that were made to appeal to the west, and were awesome (dark souls and silent hilll for example)
Your avatar made me read all of that in hank hills voice.
@@aliasmcgames and they pulled it off successfully.
@@joshuareynolds23 Well actually there are plenty of cases where they made the western release harder than the JP release, because they thought western people liked challeges.
Torn on this one. You hate to see peoples’ original vision compromised so much, but also, Shadows of the Damned was absolutely hysterical. I’m proud to own a physical copy.
Just be thankful for EA, without them we wouldn't have half of your content
modern LJN
_Patiently (but happily) waiting for the eventual _*_SimCity 2013_*_ episode_
@@kaiokenkaiowhat9343 oh, that one will be good
It's like if people tried to defend EA for whatever reason, you show them this.
@@n1njahawkssecondchannel84 I really liked the first Dead Space. The second was still good, but, not has good.
EA: "You can't just make a horror game and a single player only game! Those don't sell!
(EA then kills the creativity in the original idea just to force Grasshopper to make another 3rd person shooter with the same plot as their own "Dante's Inferno". The game bombs.)
EA: "See! We told you single player games and horror games don't sell! This is worthless to us now, you can have it back."
ah yes, the same line of thinking that disney had with treasure planet
Like how EA constantly buys up companies, well known for making one type of game, forces them to make a completely different kind of game to anything they've done before and then either shut them down or make them out to be the villains when it all obviously fails.
It is incredibly lame that we were left with something that, at least from a conceptual standpoint, is clearly inferior to the original idea. Don't get me wrong, Shadows of The Damned is shlocky, silly, Grindhouse-style fun, but Kurayami just sounds so much cooler. And, if you'd have come to ask me then if I would rather play either a survival horror game with a heavy focus on using the dark to fuck with your head, or a 3rd person shooter version of Dante's Inferno (which, itself, wasn't anything special), I would choose the survival horror.
It's a testament to the developers that Shadows still has uniqueness with its humor, tone, and characters despite EA's constant attempts to make it a generic action game. Thank god EA gave it back to Suda, because it's clear they weren't going to do anything with it.
*new Wha Happun*
"Oh boy! I wonder what this episode will be abo-"
*EA*
"Ah, it's another one of these" *grabs popcorn*
Quick Travis Strikes Again trivia: Damon Riccitiello
, main villain of TSA and NMH3, is based on John Riccitiello, the CEO of Unity who was also CEO of EA back when Shadows of the Damned was released.
He was a part of the team for the game Serious Moonlight
, that was supposed to be a huge open-world RPG based around darkness, that got stuck in development hell since it basically was main dev's, Dr. Juvenile
's, dream game, and she kept adding new stuff into it. Damon left the team due to that, however he was too pissed about the fate of that game, so at one point he beat Juvenile
to her losing her consciousness and stole the Death Ball (game cartridge).
However, Juvenile
already revamped that game as a sequel to Shadows of the Damned (yes they're in 90s, no I don't know how it works).
Anyway, considering his real life counterpart is now a CEO of Unity, that might be one of the main reasons TSA points how it is made on Unreal Engine at every available moment lol.
I've always been a fan of this game since I first played it and I was unclear why Suda 51 hated it so much. Now that I've watched your video I have a clear picture of what it was supposed to be vs what it actually became.
I remember being so hyped for this game after the initial trailers since I loved Suda's previous games. After finishing it, I thought the overall end product was okay. But after seeing this video... I kinda wanna see Suda's original "Kurayami" idea fully realized. That concept art looks so badass!
Travis Strikes Again was Suda making him own What Happened? about Shadows of the Damned in game form.
I love that he took the piss out of EA with that game, it's certainly not the most polished, but TSA has heart.
Can't stop addicted to the shindig...
Distant cousin to the reservation
I genuinely like Shadows of the Damned quite a bit. I would be interested to see Suda51 get a shot at getting his original vision for Kurayami made, but Shadows is a fun ride with the sense of humor and everything-and-the-kitchen-sink mentality that pervades No More Heroes front and center. And even the "rescue the damsel" storyline has some fun, clever subversions to it rather than just being played straight.
Thank you for covering this one. I always love to see a Suda 51 game discussed even if it had a troubled production.
15:38 but okay can we talk about how chilling the title screen sequence is for Killer 7?
while I do like shadows of the damned, hearing this was pretty disappointing, on multiple levels, to say the least. poor suda really got shafted, and that sucks. But with that being said I would love it if he some how managed to make a kuriyama game later down the line, with complete creative control most importantly. Also hearing that the games 5 rewrites were mostly unique sounds intriguing and makes me hope he makes the other 3 down the line.
Nice job on the video matt keep up the good work!
This makes me appreciate Shadows of the Damned in a different way. With all this awful meddling you'd expect the soul to die and for it to become this dull, irritating final game....
But to me at least, it wasn't. It wasn't just some boring shooter to me at least. It comes off as Suda51 taking the piss out of EA and its bullshittery.
Matt kind of looks at the game as being this cheesy, campy, shitheap. It is, but there's a lot more wink wink to it. It's kind of like Buffy to me that way.
I am sad that dipshit executives ruined Darkness. I'm not sad I played Shadows of the Damned. I love how stupid it is, not for the reasons that EA thought it was cool, but Suda's unique and cheeky touches to that format.
Well he might be reusing one of those horror-game concepts for Hotel Barcelona an indie game collaboration with Swery65 the guy who made Deadly Premonition 1+2. I'm really excited for it, Flower, Sun, and Rain and Deadly Premonition 1 are two of my favorite games of all time.
@@yehuda8589 I hope the collab's dev name is Sudwery116
Ohhhh so that’s what that means....
(I memorized all 100 endings in The 25th ward and the one about twin peaks leads to “spend hours listening to theories on Kafka’s The Castle”)
EA, destroying the hopes and dreams of gamers.
Ah, that heaven smile laugh, that was my ringtone for quite a few years.
It’s also great to hear Steve Blum’s voice in a video game
Wow this game before EA got its developer destroying hands on it seems really interesting
I beat Shadows several times and loved every second of it, lol. What a terribly made fun game. I particularly enjoyed the evil dead easter egg.
Same here. I read from a review that it had immature dick jokes everywhere and I was sold
I just had a flashback to playing the game. That part where you have to follow those strange slimey creatures with the light on their (heads?) And that psychedelic trippy music playing...whoaaa mannn lol.
16:40 Man, i would love to see Wha Happun episode about Vanquish
Same here.
Would love to see an episode on the infamous Atari E.T.
Apparently the development of ET wasn't to eventful, and it went according to the original design idea, it just wasn't too good of a design.
The game that (should) have its own landfill.
E.T was given around 6 weeks for development and was developed by _one guy_ , however i have an alternative:
I'd actually say that the _Crash of 83_ is more deserving of a *Flophouse Files* as a whole rather than just a Wha Happun.
@@VongolaXanxus The landfill is just a ton of excess Atari stock, most of it isn't even ET.
There's way too many vids on that already. I like that Matt generally doesn't do topics that have been covered to death.
Idk I really like this game, I think its a lot of fun. I like that its gorey, funny, quirky, has moments that are disturbing and artistic, plus I enjoyed the music. I get it can be cringy too but its part of its charm. As far of the original idea, I like the sounds of it, idk if I'd enjoy as much but I'd definitely still play it.
Honestly i've been trying game after game on the xbox game pass and every single one I uninstalled after 30 mins. This game I can't put down. So fun seems pretty underrated considering the general consensus seems to be pretty negative. Just shows you how subjective these things can be. What someone might find cringe etc someone else might not even notice and completely enjoy. I am the latter lol I love comedy horror
what's often not known about this story is that suda later collaborated with a manga artist named Syuji Takeya to make the manga Kurayami Dance, which was based off of the original concept for Shadows of the Damned that EA forced him to change. Check it out if you're curious about what the game was originally going to be!
Your playthrough of this was so good that I can't help but love the game.
Honestly, i loved it. Surprised it went trough such a process.
This was a really good game; I’d even call it a hidden gem.
Matt. I'm gonna ask you do a what happen video on the shift from WHFB to AOS. Nowdays there's a fair lot of info on the matter and it's really sommething worth looking into as:
-There's a very strong IP undergoing downturn.
-Management has a plan to strengthen it.
-Managament changes.
-New management decides fuck it.
-Massive ammounts of corporate meddling.
-Tons of cut corners and re-dos.
-Some crunch.
-Lot of miscommunication.
-Poor messaging.
-And attrocious launch accompanied by the successful launch of TW:WH.
The visuals look really good, I loved the aesthetic
Next episode should be Plants vs. Zombies and their rise and downfall due to EA.
I'd love to see a Wha Happun for Final Fantasy XV, or Persona 5. Two games that were really well received in the end, but had incredibly troubled dev cycles.
I guess when Suda's heart broke some dark ritual in EA's basement was finished, or at least one step further, to keep the lights on there, powered through hell's energy and they chanted in unison: "We did it again!".
Thanks Matt for the videos. You make 2020 a lot more enjoyable! 💪👍
EA= Disney
Hire creative directors.
Tell them you hired them for their vision.
Make generic crap.
Voila!
Edgar Wright's Ant Man would have been different, yet could still fit in the MCU. But Marvel said nah.
Sounds like Sony. They bring in gendi tardacofski and waste his talents on hotel Transylvania
What happened to Wright's Antman was bad. At least they seemed to have learned from it and let Watiti make Thor:Ragnarok the way he wanted to.
There's some decent Marvel coming out of their studios and Mandalorian as well as Rogue One were imo good. The biggest loss was our Netflix Marvel shows cause most of them were top tier.
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Actually Wright pretty much demanded he be allowed to not be held back by the MCU at all, he essentially wanted to make Ant-Man in his own universe. Disney demanded MCU connections and Wright left the project.
12:59 - Minor correction: Guilty Gear 2 Overture wasn't on PC on launch. It was console exclusive and was only recently (a few years ago) ported to PC.
Shadows of the damned popping up in travis strikes again was awesome
Hell, this is one of my favorite PS3 games. I've owned it 3 times since it first launched. Now it goes for hundreds on eBay.
Whoa. I had no idea Shadows had such a tortured history. It's hardly my favorite Grasshopper game, but I found it to be a pretty fun little dark comedy/action-adventure title. I'm kind of amazed it turned out as good as it did with so much meddling from EA.
Alot of these can just be Wha happun?: EA happun.
Ending the video with "Philistine".
Nice man, just nice.
Even though the games creation had so many bumps and bruises, it's still one of my favorite games ever
So thanks to EA, instead of an interesting psych horror game with more unique play, we got... Diet Fake Dante.
I would say that Garcia is more "Latino Dante" than "Ripoff Dante". I mean, he's no Donte!
I mea mrns compare it to dmc when i can tell evil dead
If the elevator pitch was like an Mass Effect 1 elevator pitch they would have succeeded in making Kurayami.
Some of the best developers in the gaming industry: *Team up together and develop the perfect concept for a game*
EA: "I'm gonna stop you right there"
Matt you’re killing with these videos dude!
LOL
Not gonna lie, I do know so little about this, but dang.
It is almost like a leson to ALL developers that the "easy" rout is not always the best
Thanks Matt! :D
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“Konosuba flashbacks”
Heavy accent.. *Lalatina*
That description of Kurayami sounded really cool and I'm sad that EA didn't allow it
Maybe Grasshopper will give it another try sometime, I hope
I still love Shadows, but oh man I'd kill for a sequel with Suda's full control
This makes me want to vomit.
@@12ealDealOfficial But the EA monster just keeps on devouring. Why? Because as much as some people complain about the dumbing down of American culture, they continue to use the loudest voice they have in support of countless mega-corporations: their wallets. Why are they making Fast and Furious part 6,723? Because people keep buying tickets to it. Why is there an Applebee's or Fazoli's every quarter mile? Because customers keep lining up to have someone else microwave their food for them. Until Americans (myself included) start demanding more from the products we consume, giant corporations will continue to put little-to-no effort into the lukewarm garbage they vomit on us year after year after year. If people keep buying games with "EA" plastered on the front cover, the cycle will never, ever stop.
game is getting a remaster soon... yay? i like this game and honestly deserves a secon chance *cough cough* sequel *cough cough*
While it seems everyone got the ol’ EA shaft here, I really feel for Massimo in this. By this account he seems like a guy who worked hard, rose through the ranks, and got a great shot from his buddy/peer to make a big break at directing a game. Only to be completely buried under misleading advertising so he never got recognition by 95% of people and handed off something that was a conceptual mess with so many revisions.
I love how back in the day, you clarified that a game was on, "next gen consoles" as a way of saying, "not on the Wii."
"A wisecracking demon killing badass." aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
It may have been meddled and frankensteined to Hell and back, but it was still a Fun game with great humor, an interesting and atmospheric world, Fantastic creature design by Q hayashida the Mangaka behind Dorohedoro and even if it the vision was lost it was still a unique and fascinating experience that still had some of the original vision intact. and besides judging by Travis strikes back even if it was recombobulated into something unrecognizable it was still one of Suda's babies and should be treated as such. Plus it also gave Suda and us gamers the wet dream of punching the Not-EA CEO in the face.
I beat the whole game in two days when it came out. Loved that game it really needs a remaster. Your “Wha Happuns” are so professional bro
To be fair, there was a time during the PS3/360 era where it felt like every game had to be the same if they wanted to sell big $$$. I still can't forget that time where games were shades of brown/grey with little vibrant colours. Dark times.
Even in today's era a game needs to be extra extra perfectly good if it wants to sell us a different genre or experience. Either that or be indie because everyone seems more forgiving if the game is indie and it has new concepts.