Speed Phenom Awesome Review I'm so glad you got to Drive Joey's absolutey gorgeous S650 Mustang Dark Horse and I think you should get one and I definitely agree that Dark Horses are worth the price
Austin's living the life! Always some great content but very fortunate on the cars and track time acquired. But always done a great job on presentation
I own & drive a 2020 Ford Mustang Bullitt,which is a much sort after car because Ford allocated only 300 of them for the UK market back in the summer of 2018. From having recently seen clips of the MK7 Ford Mustang DarkHorse,I am putting my money in my mouth! & ordering one in 2024 from my local Ford dealer.
I didn't order mine but I did pick one up at my Ford Dealership which I think is really well optioned for me. Got mine w/ a 10-speed, Recaro, Blue Ember Metallic, and the Premier trim and appearance pack. Mine was $69,305.
Imagine paying $75k for a heavier mustang than the S550. Plus imagine the mark-up on these, you’ll be at $80-$90k in no time. That’s m3 territory. What would you rather have? 😅
Austin, I really liked your videos, this one was great! I have a question. I have a Dark Horse on order at my local dealer in Washington, it is being held up by supply chain issues. The Handling package is presently unavailable but is listed as an option. Might you have any insight through you contacts at Ford as to when the Handling package will be available ? Thanks so much! Keep up the good work!!
The wheels are not curbed that is the lubricant that the factory puts on the wheels to mount the tires. It might look like that I’m the video but this was before cleaning the car up all good now !
@@josephshehan4763the gt500 in 07 was severely overrated, they only made about 380 hp , a gen 2 coyote with the 10 speed would embarrass an old gt500 ; not to mention a new SS or 392
The Tremec transmission is superb❗My only issue about the dark 🐴 would be the Recaro seats. I'm not feeling the hug feel they present. I like the seat's better in the 5.0 💯
Maybe in person that color is nice but I'm not a fan on screen. Seems kinda bland. Hood vent is really basic. Im sure the aftermarket guys will go crazy with this one
You are riding the dark 🐎 mustang iny area ❗ Telegraph, is a road 🛣️ that cross I 96 freeway. I've been to that dealership for repairs to my 21 explorer 🤝
It’s quite obvious Ford is attempting to be forward thinking and brand themselves to the younger generations; as many young kids don’t even know who Carroll is/was.. to my best knowledge, this is why they created the “Dark Horse”. It’s an impressive vehicle, and I commend Ford for maintaining the naturally aspirated coyote. However.. prices are starting to get out of hand. I get it, there’s more technology, fancy screens, bells and whistles that mustangs of the old never had.. but I just couldn’t justify spending that much for the Dark Horse. Add in taxes, insurance, fuel.. that’s one expensive car. Thoughts?
Yeah,I think for the same money I’d rather have the 20-23 GT500,a lot more performance for around the same money,just can’t get a Tremec 6-speed manual though,(unfortunately)!
Depends on what you want - If you want reliability, durability, and Ford’s latest and greatest creation; I would pick the Dark Horse. If you’re looking for something that’s more track focused, more raw, but a bit more high maintenance in terms of a true racing engine; go with the 350.
God I can't get over how comparatively FUGLY the S650 is. Long Live the 20-22 Shelby Cobra... the most gorgeous one they made. OK... the GTD does look pretty sweet...
Haha there is no paint chips lol you can’t see that in the video just reflection no curbed wheels lol. If that had happened it would have been taken care of at the dealer.
Sure, but you're comparing the price of a not fully loaded GT500 to a fully loaded Dark Horse that's also four model years newer--and inflation has been a bitch during that time.
@@MrHighlyEvolved I also had the recaro seats. Pretty much a gt500 is fully loaded minus the carbon fiber track pack. The dark horse also has a carbon fiber track pack that is $9k so it’s not fully loaded.
@@spacefras The handling pack on the Dark Horse is $5K. You can get a Dark Horse with the handling pack for 66K. It only tops 70K if you get a premium with the handling pack, appearance pack, and Recaros, which is fully loaded minus getting an auto. Regardless, it's priced in line with the Mach 1 and not the Shelby. If you think the Dark Horse is expensive, just wait until you see the price of the next Shelby replacement. Inflation has driven the prices of these cars through the roof.
@@MrHighlyEvolved Shelby is a whole different car. The dark horse is a 5.0 with badges. It’s only 20hp more than a regular 5.0 so there’s nothing special about it. And you can’t even tune the car. If you don’t add all the extra stuff to the dark horse you literally just have a 5.0 so your forced to option it to $74k before taxes. Car is a dud same goes for the entire s650 lineup
GM needs to differentiate their Corvette service like this. Imagine coming in to find your Z06 parked outside right beside the waste oil, antifreeze, and scrap metal bin. Then seeing exactly what you expected to find....the side of your car covered in oil and with large spots of running rust down the side of it. Left like that for days yet. It's not a ford GT level car but it's not a Spark either. They are a lot more than 5 bucks. GM service on their high-end vehicles is horrible. The stories I could tell.
The Name Dark Horse means nothing to me. It has No heritage. Just a label made up in a conference room. Now the new Ford Bronco 2 door is a vehicle with Heritage. I have owned mustangs for decades but not interested I the Dark Horse.
Every name ever made in automotive history was created in a conference room; but as a traditionalist and someone who respects the heritage of Ford, I can understand your point.
Imagine content creators that have owned GT350s, gt500s, and now downgraded (for clout) to a more expensive dark horse, which is slower than a tuned gen1 with basic bolt ons. I hope he won't buy one, since the depreciation will be brutal within a year.
@@CrinklesTV well, locally around me gt500s are 90k-100k US. If one looks for private sellers one can get a better deal. And I seen a dark horse now listed for 90k. (Doubt it will stay like that) But Let's assume 100k is average for gt500, and 80k is standard for dark horse for the benefit of the doubt. The gt500 is twice the car the dark horse is. Heck the gt350 is twice the car the dark horse is from a driver's experience. And it being the last new ice vehicle sold is less of a selling point when one can get better used vehicles, or just order a new c8. As for tuning,the s550 is lighter and not held back by the restrictive dual throttle body/intake design. Mod vs mod, the s550 platform would be the better performer, even if they make the s650 tunable. One would have to gut the chassis to have it catch up with the s550. I should mention, I'm not a fan how the s550 looks (it's a Ford fusion with body kit), but I have to respect it's performance and mod capabilities. As for the collectivity, I would say the dark horse name has no Pedigree, and once they release a Shelby version, it probably will be as popular as a 1999 cobra.
He mentioned that it has the spring spacers or whatever they are from shipping still installed. The wheel gap on the handling pack Dark Horse is probably the best out of all the 24 Mustangs.
Who tf is buying this over a Corvette? You could get a brand new Vette for under $100k. They’re targeting a new generation of buyer and I hope these kids aren’t so dumb they’d choose tech over performance
Joey, after driving this heavy, slow pos you should deny taking delivery so you can help convince ford to give future models the hp they claim a la 99 Cobra. 12.4 quarter mile, gtfo
My opinion-3rd S550 refresh and the most unoriginal Mustang ever produced. Darkhorse - name and image stolen from a wine (should sue the hell out of them) Side profile - Camaro Front end - Dodge charger Read end - Nissan Z Dash-corvette wannabe I love me some Ford, but they are pulling wool with this car. Stop the BS and hold them accountable.
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I love how you talked about the tires and the potential handling and he’s like yeah this is going to be a cruiser
The only thing I’m impressed with is the manual transmission. The price seems to be out of control
Completely agree.
Buy anything new these days
yeahford cant control the price, everything going up now
Ya I'm not sure why a mustang gt would be that much. I would rather have a c7 z06 or c6 zr1 or c6 z06, or c6 grandsport etc............
People have been bi*ching about the price of NEW cars as long I can remember, and I’m 70. They complain, then they buy them.
That was cool of the salesman, to let you test drive it 🤝
Good video, very nice salesman that allowed you to drive his car for the first time very cool it's time to see you back in a Mustang my good man 👍🙂
stang vids are always the best keep it up
Nice video keep up the good work my brother
The non integrated display sitting on the dash like a Best Buy TV is pretty bad. I hope they integrate the screen better in the next few years.
Speed Phenom Awesome Review I'm so glad you got to Drive Joey's absolutey gorgeous S650 Mustang Dark Horse and I think you should get one and I definitely agree that Dark Horses are worth the price
Austin's living the life! Always some great content but very fortunate on the cars and track time acquired. But always done a great job on presentation
Awesome Mustang 🐎🚗💪👊🇺🇸
Awesome!
What is the color again?? I love it!!! Austin love your work and videos, keep us updated on your Z06 and info on the ZR1
I own & drive a 2020 Ford Mustang Bullitt,which is a much sort after car because Ford allocated only 300 of them for the UK market back in the summer of 2018.
From having recently seen clips of the MK7 Ford Mustang DarkHorse,I am putting my money in my mouth! & ordering one in 2024 from my local Ford dealer.
I didn't order mine but I did pick one up at my Ford Dealership which I think is really well optioned for me. Got mine w/ a 10-speed, Recaro, Blue Ember Metallic, and the Premier trim and appearance pack. Mine was $69,305.
Nice looking car, I would be on the fence of getting that or a 350. Would be nice to get the new tech though. 👍
So cool have a blue ember dark horse coming! Manual
I would say that's 🔥🔥💯💯 but it's beyond 🔥🔥💯💯
Imagine paying $75k for a heavier mustang than the S550. Plus imagine the mark-up on these, you’ll be at $80-$90k in no time. That’s m3 territory. What would you rather have? 😅
Thought about buying the dark horse but mark up put it at 80k. F that. You're absolutely correct
A mustang
@@Lifeof728 🧢
I'd rather drive an Accord than a modern M3. Ugliest most boring garbage of "sports" car.
@@maximborodyuk3773 my man said the m3 is boring compared to an accord.. 😂
Austin, I really liked your videos, this one was great!
I have a question. I have a Dark Horse on order at my local dealer in Washington, it is being held up by supply chain issues. The Handling package is presently unavailable but is listed as an option. Might you have any insight through you contacts at Ford as to when the Handling package will be available ? Thanks so much!
Keep up the good work!!
Imagine paying 90k and getting curbed wheel. 😮
Fr I would be so pissed
Imagine paying $90k for $2007 GT500 power
Left front wheel obviously wheel rash. Looks like a nick out of the left rear also.
The wheels are not curbed that is the lubricant that the factory puts on the wheels to mount the tires. It might look like that I’m the video but this was before cleaning the car up all good now !
@@josephshehan4763the gt500 in 07 was severely overrated, they only made about 380 hp , a gen 2 coyote with the 10 speed would embarrass an old gt500 ; not to mention a new SS or 392
First time seeing no front shovel and it's great
Have an S650 on order. Cannot wait! Did you order one as well?
Life really was better before YT recommended SP's channel again.
The Tremec transmission is superb❗My only issue about the dark 🐴 would be the Recaro seats. I'm not feeling the hug feel they present. I like the seat's better in the 5.0 💯
Maybe in person that color is nice but I'm not a fan on screen. Seems kinda bland. Hood vent is really basic. Im sure the aftermarket guys will go crazy with this one
The brake calipers are actually
Notorious Blue with Grabber Blue Logo
Would love for you to put some Corsa Headers and X-pipe on this?
It will be interesting to see what Ford do with the GT350 and what engine they go with - either a 5.4 multi valve or a 7.3 pushrod is my guess
A 350 will never get a big block. The point of the 350 is to be a track car, not a muscle car. My guess is yeah, probably a 5.4.
I would be tempted to call the new Ford GT A Hyper Car!!
You are riding the dark 🐎 mustang iny area ❗ Telegraph, is a road 🛣️ that cross I 96 freeway. I've been to that dealership for repairs to my 21 explorer 🤝
Isnt Joey the one who recorded that yellow s650 on Telegraph rd?
Clean ford mustang dark horse 👨🏽🔧
When you adding the 3rd intake 😅
It’s a sharp looking ride.
It’s quite obvious Ford is attempting to be forward thinking and brand themselves to the younger generations; as many young kids don’t even know who Carroll is/was.. to my best knowledge, this is why they created the “Dark Horse”.
It’s an impressive vehicle, and I commend Ford for maintaining the naturally aspirated coyote. However.. prices are starting to get out of hand. I get it, there’s more technology, fancy screens, bells and whistles that mustangs of the old never had.. but I just couldn’t justify spending that much for the Dark Horse. Add in taxes, insurance, fuel.. that’s one expensive car.
Thoughts?
You don’t know who Carroll is either. He was a dude😂.
Come down to James Martin Chevy on Woodward!!
Mustang plant is in Flat Rock Mi not Dearborn
Honestly wish they had kept the black rear decklid. Kinda hate the way the back looks without it.
Is it any lighter!
Is that orange peel at the start of the video when it shows the emblem? I have a 2023 GT and some of the paint looks like this as well.
Bad robot!
UAW QUALITY BABY 😂
@@Lifeof728 Is Multimatic UAW?
Yeah,I think for the same money I’d rather have the 20-23 GT500,a lot more performance for around the same money,just can’t get a Tremec 6-speed manual though,(unfortunately)!
Then get a gt350
BRAND NEW does it come with custom curve rash on the wheels ?
I saw that also.
But which ones would you rather have? GT350 or Darkhorse?
Depends on what you want - If you want reliability, durability, and Ford’s latest and greatest creation; I would pick the Dark Horse. If you’re looking for something that’s more track focused, more raw, but a bit more high maintenance in terms of a true racing engine; go with the 350.
Why not both
GT350R
Not understanding the excitement on this car.
Dark horse......lmao!!
Shelby Baby....Shelby!!
The horse on the front grill should've been mat black symbolizing the Darkhorse 🤔
I hate the Ipad type screen. Why not inside the dash ?
🐎 🐴
Can’t keep up with corvette lol
🇺🇸💪🏼🐎
I hope you noticed the wheels are scratched up.
It’s lube or glue
GT 500 all day!😆
The Tremec manual is the best. My Camaros had the 6060. Getrag in the GT is junk.
God I can't get over how comparatively FUGLY the S650 is. Long Live the 20-22 Shelby Cobra... the most gorgeous one they made.
OK... the GTD does look pretty sweet...
Do you mean “GT500” lol dumdum
The new GTD is the only good thing about the new generation
honestly for that price, the GT350R is still more special
I "de-badged" my Camaro and replaced it with the Dark Horse emblems and everyone is astonished over my new "Dark Horse" 🙎♂️
Haha
Save the manuals!
The wheel fitment is horrendous
For that price you can get C8. I like the dark horse but the C8 is better.
Why are the wheels chipped and the tires looks like they have been driven hard.
Those are stickers lol
It's so tight in the engine how the hell can you even get a blower on it to have it supercharged
Looks like the same ugly Southwest airlines blue seats found in the raptor recaro option. I’ll pass on this car.
⚫️🐎
The mustang is not built in Dearborn it is built in Flat rock.
Track Ready curbed wheels 😂
“Unique Black finish?” You mean black plastic?
Wow, paint chip on bumper, orange peel. Ect. I'd be pretty beside myself getting delivery of this unit.
UAW QUALITY 😂
Haha there is no paint chips lol you can’t see that in the video just reflection no curbed wheels lol. If that had happened it would have been taken care of at the dealer.
This car is priced the same as my 2020 gt500. $74k . 😂😂😂
Sure, but you're comparing the price of a not fully loaded GT500 to a fully loaded Dark Horse that's also four model years newer--and inflation has been a bitch during that time.
@@MrHighlyEvolved I also had the recaro seats. Pretty much a gt500 is fully loaded minus the carbon fiber track pack. The dark horse also has a carbon fiber track pack that is $9k so it’s not fully loaded.
@@spacefras The handling pack on the Dark Horse is $5K. You can get a Dark Horse with the handling pack for 66K. It only tops 70K if you get a premium with the handling pack, appearance pack, and Recaros, which is fully loaded minus getting an auto. Regardless, it's priced in line with the Mach 1 and not the Shelby. If you think the Dark Horse is expensive, just wait until you see the price of the next Shelby replacement. Inflation has driven the prices of these cars through the roof.
@@MrHighlyEvolved Shelby is a whole different car. The dark horse is a 5.0 with badges. It’s only 20hp more than a regular 5.0 so there’s nothing special about it. And you can’t even tune the car. If you don’t add all the extra stuff to the dark horse you literally just have a 5.0 so your forced to option it to $74k before taxes. Car is a dud same goes for the entire s650 lineup
Here I have the dak hoath.... ok buddy
7th Gen Camaro :)
You for sure knowest the wheels are messed up but didn’t want to say anything
GM needs to differentiate their Corvette service like this. Imagine coming in to find your Z06 parked outside right beside the waste oil, antifreeze, and scrap metal bin. Then seeing exactly what you expected to find....the side of your car covered in oil and with large spots of running rust down the side of it. Left like that for days yet. It's not a ford GT level car but it's not a Spark either. They are a lot more than 5 bucks. GM service on their high-end vehicles is horrible. The stories I could tell.
This of course was just a one of dealer initiated but details like this earn you customers over other Ford Dealers.
Ughhh ,The Ipad dash is just hideous
73k + taxes and fees😮
The Name Dark Horse means nothing to me. It has No heritage. Just a label made up in a conference room. Now the new Ford Bronco 2 door is a vehicle with Heritage. I have owned mustangs for decades but not interested I the Dark Horse.
Every name ever made in automotive history was created in a conference room; but as a traditionalist and someone who respects the heritage of Ford, I can understand your point.
MUH HERITAGE
GT 500 is a Bargain
Interior looks cheap to me , very plasticky
A 2008 gt500 has more hp and is about 40k with low miles
Trust me the roads here in Michigan are way more horrifying then the roads in California Michigan is pothole Chuck hole crappy road heaven.
To be honest, that particular Dark Horse really doesn't do anything for me!
Imagine content creators that have owned GT350s, gt500s, and now downgraded (for clout) to a more expensive dark horse, which is slower than a tuned gen1 with basic bolt ons.
I hope he won't buy one, since the depreciation will be brutal within a year.
@@CrinklesTV well, locally around me gt500s are 90k-100k US. If one looks for private sellers one can get a better deal. And I seen a dark horse now listed for 90k. (Doubt it will stay like that)
But Let's assume 100k is average for gt500, and 80k is standard for dark horse for the benefit of the doubt. The gt500 is twice the car the dark horse is. Heck the gt350 is twice the car the dark horse is from a driver's experience.
And it being the last new ice vehicle sold is less of a selling point when one can get better used vehicles, or just order a new c8.
As for tuning,the s550 is lighter and not held back by the restrictive dual throttle body/intake design. Mod vs mod, the s550 platform would be the better performer, even if they make the s650 tunable. One would have to gut the chassis to have it catch up with the s550. I should mention, I'm not a fan how the s550 looks (it's a Ford fusion with body kit), but I have to respect it's performance and mod capabilities.
As for the collectivity, I would say the dark horse name has no Pedigree, and once they release a Shelby version, it probably will be as popular as a 1999 cobra.
That monster truck wheel gap though 🤢
He said it still has the spacers from shipping on the springs.
GT350 left over parts…Ford
Mustang GTD starts at 300k yikes
73k???😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think the 350 looks better, sounds better, and is better. Dark horse is nicer on inside, about it. Look at that wheel gap jeez. Pass.
The car doesn’t have the wheel opening flairs installed yet.
@@user-jk7kt3xf3vthat has NOTHING to do with wheel gap bro what are you saying
He mentioned that it has the spring spacers or whatever they are from shipping still installed. The wheel gap on the handling pack Dark Horse is probably the best out of all the 24 Mustangs.
When he said the highest HP Coyote yet...I laughed... The reality is it actually has less power than the GT
this guy totally bought it at msrp, will drive it 300 miles and then he'll sell it for 100k bet me!
Who tf is buying this over a Corvette? You could get a brand new Vette for under $100k. They’re targeting a new generation of buyer and I hope these kids aren’t so dumb they’d choose tech over performance
Not a fan of the shity paint on all the Fords... Wonder how much orange peel on the GTD $300k.
Joey, after driving this heavy, slow pos you should deny taking delivery so you can help convince ford to give future models the hp they claim a la 99 Cobra. 12.4 quarter mile, gtfo
Overpriced masterpiece. Not happy about this strike b.s.
The "bucket" seats look like kids car seats
No they dont
@@Lifeof728 They don't look like Cosco Finale DX 2-in-1 Booster Car Seats??
The host of this video sounds like Blippi for cars… I’m sorry I can’t keep watching .
overpriced, just get a 2019 m5
these things are ugly compared to the 2022 models
Lol they look very similar to the 22
overpriced, overweight, to slow
Whats with that gay looking emblem😂
My opinion-3rd S550 refresh and the most unoriginal Mustang ever produced.
Darkhorse - name and image stolen from a wine (should sue the hell out of them)
Side profile - Camaro
Front end - Dodge charger
Read end - Nissan Z
Dash-corvette wannabe
I love me some Ford, but they are pulling wool with this car. Stop the BS and hold them accountable.
The car is ugly. GT350 or GT500 are the way.
Porsche has 21s on the gt3
Dash is HIDEOUS