Haven’t played drums in literally years, and getting back into it. Just ordered a new kit, now looking for some great dual pedals, and I’m leaning toward these. Thanks for the review.
Tama anything is iron solid. Ive had my first gen speed cobras since 2009. Should prob replace the sprints but man, some 0000 fine steel wool keeps them brand new!
to anyone wondering about making the investment that is the speed cobra 2016 models, if you are looking for a very durable pedal and confortable too, you should really go with this, at first I was like "mmm I don't know this is maybe a little expensive" however I still bought it, and after 2 months of using it, I really got used to it, and don't regret buying it. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU PLAY FASTER, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO GET USED TO HIGH SPEED GROOVES AND APPLY DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES SINCE IT'S WELL BUILT. Also it has a lot of power and those new rubber beaters really deliver tbh (you can also buy the wood tama beaters and it goes great with them too). So basically, they are really worth it.
The problem I had with the Speed Cobras was that my cam came loose over time, and when I tried to fix this, it turned out the screw holding to had been tightened so much in the factory that the thread had popped. I had to get it drilled out. This happened with several other points on the pedal, which really limited my ability to repair, clean and just generally maintain the thing :/ might wanna be careful of that mate, just make sure you can fully dismantle it in case of breakages. Love your videos man, keep em up.
5 year warranty now. Not sure if was when you had them. Anything happens for me I'm sending them back for new. However I've had them almost a year so far and not one problem. I think they may have improved some things on the new version 2016,
I will get rid of my SCs because I have the exact same problem. Their new "improved" 2016 hinge is actually worse than their old ones. The hinges become loose frightenly fast. And sure 5 years warranty... but do you want to send your pedals constantly to get repaired / replaced? If you have problems with wobbly parts the new SCs are just not the pedals to go...
I haven't had any problem wiry mine yet. It's a year old now exactly and I practice on it 3 hours a day. It's fine still but I'll keep my eye on it now. For me I have to use whatever feels most comfortable and I play best on even if it don't last quite as long as a different pedal that I'm less comfortable on. However to each his own ofcourse. Im probably going to be selling my Dw 9002.
Equipment is all about personal preference. If you're happy with your SCs, theres ofc no reason to ditch them. Today I send my pedals to tama for repair, and when I will get them back, I will sell them and get a pair of Mapex Falcons. The only Pedal that never got wobbly or wore out, were my DW9002s. But I hated how the Pedal angle always affected beater and cam angle. The result is, that the most DW9002 Cams are not equal angled, which most of the DW users dont notice until you point it out. You can even see the most dw9002 videos here on youtube.
Now u just gotta replace that wack sounding DW kit and get a Tama starclassic kit. Loll. Just playin, whatever works for u. I use speed Cobras as well. Tama pedals, hardware, and drums are the best in the world IMO.
Hey Ben I absolutely love your recent videos, was hoping you could maybe make a video regarding gear maintenance such as lubing and cleaning pedals as well as cymbals!
I wish I was your barber. so many barber's leave that overhang on the side and it bugs me. but on a more relevant note......I'm definitely going to look into these pedals.
are those single or double chain driven? what's the difference in your opinion? have you ever heard of or played the old speed king pedals? they're awesome. i played drums in one of my many bands (i'm really a guitarist or was before i broke my neck) cobbling different parts together. an old speed king on one, an old square beater on the other so when i had a chance to play my drummer friend's DW 2000, i was like "geez, this feels easy" lol! have you tried doing doubles on each kick? that's a virgil donati thing i saw at his clinic way way back.. not sure it's actually a better way to play strait 16ths with or whatever but it's cool for fills etc. just been curious about the differences in the single/ double chain since they came out in the 90s. they feel a little different but i'm not a drummer.
Never liked these, but they are leaps better than their contemporaries. I personally need some resistance on my pedal to get my articulation to be smooth. There is just to much dynamic variance on the modern, ultra light, pedals. The only thing that would make me possibly change is if they came out with a longboard OG cobra, but I doubt that will ever happen.
I played the Iron Cobras for years, tried the Demon Drives and I didn't like them. Speed Cobras are sure my next gear purchase. I tried them at a guitar center and this things fly with no adjustments.
No offense but do you really need high end pedals when you're not doing stuff like Origin, or The Faceless? From what ive seen you dont usually play constant double bass, more like flutters and kick patterns.
AquaAnim high end hardware is just built more solid more innovative design goes into them but no you don't need them to make ridiculous drum patterns it's just what feels good to you and building technique with hardware youve got, I recently switched from a tama hp310 pedal or something like that to a dw 3000 completely different pedal altogether but I can still only play what I've learnt on the dw one. is it's not about what you've got with drums its what you can do with it, also what bens playing caters to his needs he finds them comfortable to play that's all that matters tbh
AquaAnim You're right in some ways, but the higher end pedals are designed to get the pedal out of the way sort of. I went from some terrible pedals to DW 9000s, and I have played the fast stuff as well as the slow stuff, and can attest to the fact that better pedals help everything.
Larry Tate Well marco is a big fan of single chain pedals. Which is why at his home studio he uses the original DW 5000's with single chain. I know on the road he uses the DW 9002, but ive seen him use the 2000's sometimes which are really similar to the original DW 5000's.
Not being funny... But... Way back when you were 13 can't have been much more than 5 years ago!!.. Not that I doubt Tama make excellent gear... I actually don't understand this pedal.. The one on the left(where the hi hat sits), does what? Does it play the same bass drum or its own ? The hi hat still would sit left, obviously? If you play the hi hat what happens to the unplayed pedal? Please excuse my ignorance... It's been a while since I played. I guess trying this out is the answer, it's probably self explanatory? Nicely played BTW
I've never understood the camera angle that people switch between, the one where the subject isn't looking at the camera. Why do so many people do this?
Long boards aren't about your shoe size. They allow you to play further back on the pedal to do faster stuff with less movement. You may notice your current pedals have a "sweet spot" that works best for you. A long board extends the sweet spot further back.
he could just use one pedal with how slow his doubles were...not knocking the guys drumming just saying he could have done a better review if he just went a little faster..im an asshole for knit picking lol my bad
Vinc Essler I’m the exact opposite. Used to use dw9000s and dw5000s until the new generation updated speed cobras came out. Sold both dws and bought both the new speed cobra doubles and new iron cobra doubles and they just feel so much better for me personally. Whatever works for you tho.
you dont need a speed cobra in the type of your playing style you only do basic on your feet much better you use low end pedal like pdp pedal much compatible to your style also your face expression not good just saying and a piece of advice
I had the DW 9000 double pedals and 3 different parts have broke on me and each time I had to send it in for repair to the DW factory and wait about a month for each time. The cam adjusted nut came loose and would not tighten and just stayed loose and kept falling off while playing, the beater holder nut stripped off while tightening it down with not much force, and then the rubber bass drum clamps kept coming off and the metal under the rubber was scratching up my bass drum. Even though there are all different settings on the DW pedal, I feel it is too much and even then, I couldn't get the exact feel I've always been looking for. I decided to get the Tama speed cobra double pedals as a back up since they are much cheaper and to keep in case I had to send in the DW pedal again but soon as I put my feet on it and played outta the box I knew that this is what I was looking for, I didn't even tweak the spring tension to my liking just yet and it was so much more powerful, comfortable, and faster than the DW. Till this day I've had no issues at all with the speed Cobras and been using them for everything from touring, practices, rehearsals, and just a lot of hours and shows logged into them. Once I set the spring tension, beAter height to my preference, it was game over for any other pedal and especially the dws. The dws are on the shelf and I'll prolly sell those and get the iron Cobras as a backup. you don't need all that infinite cam adjuster bullshit and those other DW settings, as long as u have a beater adjuster for how far back or forward u want it, beater height adjuster, footboard adjuster, and spring tension, then that's all u need. The tama's are simple, but durable and just perfectly made. The new version Tama speed cobra and iron cobra pedals is the one I have with the updated bass plate being more stable and updated bolts and bearings. Smoothest fast pedal yet so powerful. I've had the same experience with a 4 piece DW collectors maple mahogany drums which cost as much as my damn car, sold it and bought a 5 piece 2016 Tama starclassic BB hyperdrive kit in the exact finish I've always wanted straight from the Tama warehouse and couldn't be happier for only a tiny fraction of the price compared to the DW. Paid 5,500 for the 4 piece DW, paid 1,969 for the 5 piece Tama kit which also came with the new hardware updates brought down from the Tama star line like the quick lock rack tom mounts, quick lock floor tom legs, air cushioned floor tom legs, the new swive wing mounting system which is by far the best mounting system ever with the quick lock invention, just pure genius by Tama. If anyone has never tried to quick lock tom brackets if you are a gigging drummer and want your drums set up exactly the same way in the same exact position everytime, then you need this trust me. For me being ocd about my set up, it's the perfect kit for me with those features. And just looks and sounds and durability and hardware and build quality, Tama beats the DW kit in every aspect and the fact I can buy another 3 Tama of these Tama kits for the price of that one shitty DW kit, it's just mind blowing to me.
Ben Minal Not saying your information isn't good but im considering buying these I'm on the cusp of the purchase would love to hear the info and see the unit simultaneously keep up the good work 👍
Haven’t played drums in literally years, and getting back into it. Just ordered a new kit, now looking for some great dual pedals, and I’m leaning toward these. Thanks for the review.
Tama anything is iron solid. Ive had my first gen speed cobras since 2009. Should prob replace the sprints but man, some 0000 fine steel wool keeps them brand new!
FanaticalDrummer what do you use the steel wool for?
tama the strongest name in drums
Alex Wickham that's right
Nah
@@angelolouis3253 zildjian is.. meh. Zildjian and Sabian are pretty much the same company
@@angelolouis3253 so has the common cold 🤣🤷♂️ I saw a video on Sabian, and the bloke that owned the factory... his last name was Zildjian 🤣🤣
@@angelolouis3253 🤣🤣🤣 no no
I've got an idea. Next time you make a video about a pedal, put a camera on the pedal.
to anyone wondering about making the investment that is the speed cobra 2016 models, if you are looking for a very durable pedal and confortable too, you should really go with this, at first I was like "mmm I don't know this is maybe a little expensive" however I still bought it, and after 2 months of using it, I really got used to it, and don't regret buying it. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU PLAY FASTER, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO GET USED TO HIGH SPEED GROOVES AND APPLY DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES SINCE IT'S WELL BUILT. Also it has a lot of power and those new rubber beaters really deliver tbh (you can also buy the wood tama beaters and it goes great with them too). So basically, they are really worth it.
3:10 gotta love that Chasm groove
iDoHn gotta love your profile pic
I traded my Speed Cobras in for Axis A Longboards and I'm glad I did.
Why
Ben, could you make a video explaining pros and cons of double bass drums over just a double pedal?
officialzSTARE2000 the biggest thing is having to tune them the same is a pain
Double bass drums look cool. Double pedals on a single kick are far more practical and convenient. That's it.
The problem I had with the Speed Cobras was that my cam came loose over time, and when I tried to fix this, it turned out the screw holding to had been tightened so much in the factory that the thread had popped. I had to get it drilled out. This happened with several other points on the pedal, which really limited my ability to repair, clean and just generally maintain the thing :/ might wanna be careful of that mate, just make sure you can fully dismantle it in case of breakages. Love your videos man, keep em up.
5 year warranty now. Not sure if was when you had them. Anything happens for me I'm sending them back for new. However I've had them almost a year so far and not one problem. I think they may have improved some things on the new version 2016,
I will get rid of my SCs because I have the exact same problem. Their new "improved" 2016 hinge is actually worse than their old ones. The hinges become loose frightenly fast. And sure 5 years warranty... but do you want to send your pedals constantly to get repaired / replaced? If you have problems with wobbly parts the new SCs are just not the pedals to go...
I haven't had any problem wiry mine yet. It's a year old now exactly and I practice on it 3 hours a day. It's fine still but I'll keep my eye on it now. For me I have to use whatever feels most comfortable and I play best on even if it don't last quite as long as a different pedal that I'm less comfortable on. However to each his own ofcourse. Im probably going to be selling my Dw 9002.
Equipment is all about personal preference. If you're happy with your SCs, theres ofc no reason to ditch them. Today I send my pedals to tama for repair, and when I will get them back, I will sell them and get a pair of Mapex Falcons. The only Pedal that never got wobbly or wore out, were my DW9002s. But I hated how the Pedal angle always affected beater and cam angle. The result is, that the most DW9002 Cams are not equal angled, which most of the DW users dont notice until you point it out. You can even see the most dw9002 videos here on youtube.
Now u just gotta replace that wack sounding DW kit and get a Tama starclassic kit. Loll. Just playin, whatever works for u. I use speed Cobras as well. Tama pedals, hardware, and drums are the best in the world IMO.
Hey Ben I absolutely love your recent videos, was hoping you could maybe make a video regarding gear maintenance such as lubing and cleaning pedals as well as cymbals!
I wish I was your barber. so many barber's leave that overhang on the side and it bugs me. but on a more relevant note......I'm definitely going to look into these pedals.
haha, ben is getting that 'matt garstka' face XD
I love the grey polo/grey sweats combo! Lol reminds me of my drumming outfits.
are those single or double chain driven? what's the difference in your opinion? have you ever heard of or played the old speed king pedals? they're awesome. i played drums in one of my many bands (i'm really a guitarist or was before i broke my neck) cobbling different parts together. an old speed king on one, an old square beater on the other so when i had a chance to play my drummer friend's DW 2000, i was like "geez, this feels easy" lol!
have you tried doing doubles on each kick? that's a virgil donati thing i saw at his clinic way way back.. not sure it's actually a better way to play strait 16ths with or whatever but it's cool for fills etc.
just been curious about the differences in the single/ double chain since they came out in the 90s. they feel a little different but i'm not a drummer.
What's best setting for sliding technique
are these 910s? are you still happy?
Why did you take down the video where you bought them?
who were the guys rehearsing in the other room? :DD
BM, you ought to try the new IC or SC HH pedal. Huge upgrade. I was blown away how much it helped my playing.
awesome pair of pedals man! btw, loving these videos ben, keep 'em coming!!
+Tom Matthews thanks man!
Ben did you try the regular iron cobra too? If so what did you think
Never liked these, but they are leaps better than their contemporaries. I personally need some resistance on my pedal to get my articulation to be smooth. There is just to much dynamic variance on the modern, ultra light, pedals. The only thing that would make me possibly change is if they came out with a longboard OG cobra, but I doubt that will ever happen.
why did you take down the cymbal stand comparison video?
I played the Iron Cobras for years, tried the Demon Drives and I didn't like them. Speed Cobras are sure my next gear purchase. I tried them at a guitar center and this things fly with no adjustments.
+José Nicanor Liberos Mascarell I'm loving them
No offense but do you really need high end pedals when you're not doing stuff like Origin, or The Faceless? From what ive seen you dont usually play constant double bass, more like flutters and kick patterns.
AquaAnim high end hardware is just built more solid more innovative design goes into them but no you don't need them to make ridiculous drum patterns it's just what feels good to you and building technique with hardware youve got, I recently switched from a tama hp310 pedal or something like that to a dw 3000 completely different pedal altogether but I can still only play what I've learnt on the dw one. is it's not about what you've got with drums its what you can do with it, also what bens playing caters to his needs he finds them comfortable to play that's all that matters tbh
AquaAnim You're right in some ways, but the higher end pedals are designed to get the pedal out of the way sort of. I went from some terrible pedals to DW 9000s, and I have played the fast stuff as well as the slow stuff, and can attest to the fact that better pedals help everything.
Mike Durrett gotcha! Was just wondering i know guys like marco minnemann sometimes use DW 2000's
I see Marco using 9000s usually. Some guys like the Dw 5000s.
Larry Tate Well marco is a big fan of single chain pedals. Which is why at his home studio he uses the original DW 5000's with single chain. I know on the road he uses the DW 9002, but ive seen him use the 2000's sometimes which are really similar to the original DW 5000's.
I got the speed cobras, and I love them.
When's the next live stream coming Ben?
what's the snare drum you're using?
Not being funny... But... Way back when you were 13 can't have been much more than 5 years ago!!.. Not that I doubt Tama make excellent gear... I actually don't understand this pedal.. The one on the left(where the hi hat sits), does what? Does it play the same bass drum or its own ? The hi hat still would sit left, obviously? If you play the hi hat what happens to the unplayed pedal? Please excuse my ignorance... It's been a while since I played. I guess trying this out is the answer, it's probably self explanatory? Nicely played BTW
I've never understood the camera angle that people switch between, the one where the subject isn't looking at the camera. Why do so many people do this?
It's so you have two angles for editing speaking together, plus it gives the audience a break from being started at down the camera the whole time
Are you endorsed by anyone?
i used to ride a longboard! 😉 nice video man!
I'm buying these thx mate
Cool double pedal rock beats Break sticks
im a size 10 feet is a long bored a good idea for me
Long boards aren't about your shoe size. They allow you to play further back on the pedal to do faster stuff with less movement.
You may notice your current pedals have a "sweet spot" that works best for you. A long board extends the sweet spot further back.
How you tune that snare??
+Fourty 4Times pretty high, the Evans Hybrid does a lot to create that sound though
I use those
he could just use one pedal with how slow his doubles were...not knocking the guys drumming just saying he could have done a better review if he just went a little faster..im an asshole for knit picking lol my bad
Glad i have longboards As i have size 15 feet lol
a pedal review without foot cam
Nice video
How is this dude's hair so thick?
Very nice pedals but I still prefer the DW5000s 😄
Vinc Essler I’m the exact opposite. Used to use dw9000s and dw5000s until the new generation updated speed cobras came out. Sold both dws and bought both the new speed cobra doubles and new iron cobra doubles and they just feel so much better for me personally. Whatever works for you tho.
you dont need a speed cobra in the type of your playing style you only do basic on your feet much better you use low end pedal like pdp pedal much compatible to your style also your face expression not good just saying and a piece of advice
Haha ok
Do you break a lot of cymbals? You're a basher behind the kit.
Chris L if you hit with proper technique, you’ll be fine
Say whhaat
I hated his stacks
moar foot cam
you should have gotten dw9000. DW has 3 times lifetime than this pedal
he had 9000's
Pretty sure that's what he had before
Sinan Kececi that's debatable it all depends on how you take care of you pedals
I had the DW 9000 double pedals and 3 different parts have broke on me and each time I had to send it in for repair to the DW factory and wait about a month for each time. The cam adjusted nut came loose and would not tighten and just stayed loose and kept falling off while playing, the beater holder nut stripped off while tightening it down with not much force, and then the rubber bass drum clamps kept coming off and the metal under the rubber was scratching up my bass drum. Even though there are all different settings on the DW pedal, I feel it is too much and even then, I couldn't get the exact feel I've always been looking for. I decided to get the Tama speed cobra double pedals as a back up since they are much cheaper and to keep in case I had to send in the DW pedal again but soon as I put my feet on it and played outta the box I knew that this is what I was looking for, I didn't even tweak the spring tension to my liking just yet and it was so much more powerful, comfortable, and faster than the DW. Till this day I've had no issues at all with the speed Cobras and been using them for everything from touring, practices, rehearsals, and just a lot of hours and shows logged into them. Once I set the spring tension, beAter height to my preference, it was game over for any other pedal and especially the dws. The dws are on the shelf and I'll prolly sell those and get the iron Cobras as a backup. you don't need all that infinite cam adjuster bullshit and those other DW settings, as long as u have a beater adjuster for how far back or forward u want it, beater height adjuster, footboard adjuster, and spring tension, then that's all u need. The tama's are simple, but durable and just perfectly made. The new version Tama speed cobra and iron cobra pedals is the one I have with the updated bass plate being more stable and updated bolts and bearings. Smoothest fast pedal yet so powerful. I've had the same experience with a 4 piece DW collectors maple mahogany drums which cost as much as my damn car, sold it and bought a 5 piece 2016 Tama starclassic BB hyperdrive kit in the exact finish I've always wanted straight from the Tama warehouse and couldn't be happier for only a tiny fraction of the price compared to the DW. Paid 5,500 for the 4 piece DW, paid 1,969 for the 5 piece Tama kit which also came with the new hardware updates brought down from the Tama star line like the quick lock rack tom mounts, quick lock floor tom legs, air cushioned floor tom legs, the new swive wing mounting system which is by far the best mounting system ever with the quick lock invention, just pure genius by Tama. If anyone has never tried to quick lock tom brackets if you are a gigging drummer and want your drums set up exactly the same way in the same exact position everytime, then you need this trust me. For me being ocd about my set up, it's the perfect kit for me with those features. And just looks and sounds and durability and hardware and build quality, Tama beats the DW kit in every aspect and the fact I can buy another 3 Tama of these Tama kits for the price of that one shitty DW kit, it's just mind blowing to me.
Andy Ham if a music store has one try I direct drive. Craziest feeling pedals
Less of your face and more of the product
+Stephen Sanchez :(
Ben Minal
Not saying your information isn't good but im considering buying these I'm on the cusp of the purchase would love to hear the info and see the unit simultaneously keep up the good work 👍
i have this garbage.don t buy this shit