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» 0:00 Intro Jam
» 1:25 What We Are Doing Today!
» 1:43 Why We Are Talking About This
» 3:00 The Setup Today?
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» 5:35 Cost?
» 6:07 The Captor Range
» 7:14 The Speakers
» 8:41 Speaker Emulations?
» 12:09 Prices and Cheaper Options
» 13:40 The Captor X
» 14:40 The Two Notes Torpedo App
» 17:17 Let's Hear The Captor X
» 18:26 What If I Have a Combo?
» 18:38 Other Attenuators?
» 20:04 The Volume Warning Light
» 22:20 Lee & Pete's Dream Rig
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Sorry Genelec - I have no idea why I thought you were Swiss!! Finland is so full of talented musical people - love your speakers! Lee
In fairness, the name DOES sound Swiss. Not enough consonants to be assumed Nordic.
Even Finnish made, not just designed. Now you have to make a visit, the factory is on a beautiful lake front. Of course as a Finn I have had Genelecs at home for at least 15 years. Oh yeah and don't forget the chocolate. Fazer beats any Swiss or Belgian chocolate.
@@TheDrunkenScoundrel Finnish language being from a completely different language family (Fenno-Ugric) than other Nordic (Germanic) is actually full of vowels. In some dialects you can form meaningful sentences with just vowels. The word Genelec however is not a Finnish word. We don't have native Finnish words starting with G and C is a foreign letter to us. If it was written in a Finnish way, it would be Kenelekki. No, I'm not kidding, we dont have words ending with k either, so the only obvious ending is kki.
Did the Captor come with a PSU? Folk are gonna buy that not realising the Captor ain't gonna work out of the box?
In fairness, it's not as if you own a big shop.
Brilliant Andertons! Please don't ever delete this video! Us home guitarists want great amp tones at neighbour friendly volumes
@Ralph Reilly …he said “great amp tones”….hahaha
Bedroom guitarist with double marshall stacks ...superb 😂
@@jockster5525yes, because we can 😊
I bought a Captor Torpedo from Andertons just before Christmas, and have been using it on the -20db into my cab but have been wondering about how to use the other functions, so thanks for doing this episode guys - will be getting myself a powered speaker too!
I bought the captor X when it came out, pre ordered - this was actually right around lockdown time, I remember since I ordered it in hopes of getting it for a silent stage gig I had coming up (it was postponed obviously)… at any rate, it came during the summer of 2020 and Ive used it every day since. It was a lockdown savor, allowing me to record and play while stuck at home and has since become an indispensable recording and live tool. Really incredible piece of equipment for the money. Highly recommend from a recording/touring player
My prayers have been answered! I've been searching the internet for just that explanation! Thanx sooo much
Thank you for doing this video. I have all these things besides the powered monitors and cables to go from the captor X to them and I’ve been wanting to learn how to do this so much so I can start playing with it and messing around. This video is perfect thank you a million times over. Also sent an email to the team with some questions about powered monitors and cables to buy. This is the best and so are you guys.
This topic is long overdue, well explained. EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
Game changer, guys! I live in an apartment and have valve amps and even though they have master volumes, turning down the master is ok, but it’s just not the same as letting them off the leash a bit. Running my AC15 into a Captor X and a monitor, and I had the Top Boost cranked and the master up high and got great tone and could talk over it. Incredible.
Love these kind of more practical videos. Been using captors for years now.
Just bought a Captor 8ohm two days ago! Excited for it to arrive. My neighbors are likely to enjoy it as well! ;-)
My living room rig is a JTM 45, a 4 by 12 and an Ironman ii (all from the big A). Super flexible on volume, sounds great and I absolutely LOVE it!
The captor X is amazing. I have been using it with my synergy head to play at home, and the flexibility of changing preamp modules, and being able to control output volume makes my home playing experience so much more enjoyable than when I was using practice amps.
I literally was about to do some research about this topic and Andertons came through with this vid 🙌🏼
Best sounding low volume option I've heard on this channel.
This little set up is fantastic, and something that I definitely want to get at my house in the years to come.
I got both the Captor and the X, the latter being one of the best pieces of gear I have ever bought.
I run my amps cranked through it, even more than I would through cabs or built in speakers.
The room mic’s don’t do justice here of course. 70 dB is ridiculously quiet.
I paired my X with some bigger monitors that work well from super quiet to instant feedback volume.
Below certain volumes your tone won’t be inspiring anyway so if I really need to go so low I rather use headphones.
Closer to 80-85 dB is better and still much quieter than the 110+ of a cranked 50W Marshall.
In addition, since I started messing around with the X I discovered how important cabs are to the overall tone. It’s something that I as an amateur had overlooked.
Really great stuff and I am so happy I bought the X
I've been using a Captor X and Captor 8 for a long time now and love them!
Long overdue a video like this ! Great job guys
Thank you for this. It is exactly what I am looking for. The db meter makes it even better.
So glad I watched this. This is exactly what I need. I have an orange head. Paid all that money for it. And unless the neighbours go out it sounds crap at low volume.
Was literally just thinking about checking out the torpedo loadbox and this shows up, happy days!
One thing that's brilliant about this video - apart from the sheer entertainment value, is how The Captain's playing has been improving over the years. It is very noticeable. Maybe he should do one on how he practices :)
I thought the same. The jam at the end sees Lee coming up with some real tasty phrasing. Best I've ever seen him play. Great video guys.
He has improved dramatically. I used to think I was way better than him, but he holds his own with Pete and rob now. He clearly practices and loves music.
Thanks guys!! That really helped explain things in a way that finally clicked for me with this stuff. Very cool 🤟
Thank you for this, I've always wondered how these worked and wanted to see a video on it
I’m pairing my captor with a Strymon Iridium as an IR loader and headphone amp. My ‘65 Vox AC30 > Captor > Iridium (w amp emulation disabled, only using cab section) > headphones. Works like a charm!
i've gotta say, after playing through standard cabs for my entire guitar playing years from 13 to 38, when i got a gt1000 core i plugged it into my monitors as i didnt want to run it through my fx loop. i must say at first it was a different sound that was very noticable. but honestly now after playing it through monitors for about a month now, i really like the different sound. super convenient too
Closest thing to the Bang & Olfusen "all integrated" thing you guys mention at 22:43 are the Revv D20/G20 heads, which are designed to be pedal platform 20-ish watt tube amps with Torpedo Captor boxes built into them.
I was just wondering if I could do this with an amp head (don’t wanna buy a cab just yet)! You guys have read my mind, thanks for the awesome video
That subscriber total just keeps on going up. 👍
I got the Burgera PS1 to attenuate my 100W Orange Rockerverb and 20W Friedman JJ Jr. going into a 2x12 for basement jams, and it works perfectly. I can crank those amps, and lower the volume on the attenuator, and I still get that huge thick sound of the amp and speakers that works for home use. I do think that is an important consideration, because it's impossible to fully emulate the sound of large speakers in a cab, but this is still a good options.
I use an L-pad rated for twice the amp's wattage. Works like a charm 😊
Those Nike's on Pete's feet are total Scush! Love that Merlot Finish! Also thanks for the demo!
I love my Captor X with my tube combo. Usually I play with headphones and it's sounds great.
i use a 50 watt plexi, captor x, studio headphones… no one but me hears anything… technology is awesome when it works. been wanting genelecs for a long time great video guys
My captor x is on a fed ex truck right now, can’t wait to try it out with the powered monitors as well as through a 2x12 on the low attenuation mode. Thanks for the video! dsl20hr and mt15 are the amp heads, if it can tame the mt15 and retain great tone that would be amazing, that amp is a beast.
I'm running the mt15 and a dsl15h myself, definitely looking into getting something like this or the ox
I've got a 100w Laney, Orange OR 50, Victory V40D, Mesa Boogie Dual Rec Tremoverb and a 20W Jet City. I live in an attached house, Captor X was the best piece of gear I ever purchased.
i run my captor x into a mixer and then an audio interface which is then going into an ipad. I monitor the sound out of a pair of yamaha studio monitors, its a perfect bedroom setup!
Using the DI integrated in the Hugues & Kettner GM40 connected to monitors through an old yamaha 01x, it’s perfect for a home studio usage while having the feel of tube amps. No need for spending extra money unless I buy several amps. And one can play with tones using IRs 🎉
I bought a Captor years ago, honestly the best purchase i've ever made. The fact i can crank my Night Train 50 up to its sweet spot and still speak to anyone who enters the room is immense, and it changed how I record. I recommend one to everyone who plays guitar and has a big stack they want to play at home without turning the volume down to 1!
I'm constantly in the 1 zone!!! 😂🥺
What do you run the signal out of? An alternate speaker or the original speaker?
Great info and great jamming, Thankyou
Lee's really digging the PRS with the humbuckers,,,
Lee that PRS rings! It sounds very resonant. That’s a sign of a great guitar to me.
This is one of the best opening jams of all time.
Edit: y'all get so in to it at 70db. The strings slapping over top are such a vibe. Hard to describe but it shows the value of a room mic.
Thanks so much for posting this. It is so helpful.
When I was a teenager I bought a Carvin X100-B (one of the OG models) and had a Tom Scholz Power Soak to lower the volume. I loved that rig, and still have it, but there was no decent IR or speaker simulation of course. Over the years going to college and living in apartments in the 90's I had to stop using it and switched to an OG Rockman, which I also still have. I never use either of those anymore since I've spent a small fortune on various modelers over the years, from the PODxt right on through a Kemper Stage and others. It's been so long since I've played though an actual tube amp I've forgotten what it's actually like! I don't doubt what you're saying in this video in the least. If I'd had a load box with current IR tech the way things are now, I may have never gone the modeler route. Such cool stuff available now no matter which route someone wants to go!
Great content as always!
Ahhh, a practical video. Love it!
I have the genelec 8010 and they sound amazing - I use them with my Axe Fx III…..the 8010 sound much better than other speakers I tried that were more traditional studio monitors from 5-8” speakers.
Much needed video!!! Thank you.
Gents, thanks for this vid. It would be interesting to compare this rig setup with an amp modeler (Helix etc.) modeling the same rig through the same speakers.
Interesting video for me . I already have a BOSS TAE and a Hiwatt SA20 w/ 212 and have been enjoying the setup. I also have some Ruark active speakers on my computer. Gonna have to experiment running thru the Ruark now!
Lee, you are banging it out!
That sound from them little bad ass speakers !! Is off the clock !!!
Great video, very helpful.
A missed opportunity to explain, Gain Staging, for your viewers.. Oh and thanks for explaining what those LED numbers in the corner actually do! Was driving me crazy trying to figure it out. Duh :) Long time viewer, love your channel. Too bad i'm in the U.S.A. Cheers!
Nothing can touch my Fryette PS-100, best top gear ever! It will give more voice to any amp you have plus adding a loop, wich is great for my Sovtek MIG-50 that dosen't have one! Can give a boost of 100W or 5W if you wish plus it as 2 channel that you can toggle with a footswitch, 2 different amp setting at your feet!
Don't get confused by the attenuation ability. I've been using the Captor (not X) for a long time and in conjuction with my Plexi (volume on 6-7) the -20db seem totally not realistic! It's still pretty pretty loud, way above bedroom level! So the attenuation part of the captor isn't great really. BUT I do almost all of my recordings with the Captor. Works brilliantly. A very organinc and vivid signal that you get from the unit and that you can work with in your DAW. The Wall of Sound Software is cool, but nowadays I'm only using really good IRs. Honestly, the whole DynIR thing and promises by Torpedo are exciting in the beginngn, but once you have used for example a great York Audio IR, you'll never return to Wall of Sound. Mixed feeling here overall, still I don't wanna miss the Captor for recording purposes.
@2:50 "You don't need to compromise on your home rig if you don't have to." Brilliant.
_It’s hard to make a Soldano sound bad. 😆 That being said, awesome job!_
Great video. Very interesting. Thanks. 😊
That soldano sure sounds awesome
Love my captor. I do find you have to tweak the amp eq to get it to match the unattenuated sound, but that's nothing. Makes the amp feel so sweet to play.
I get the same tone with the dsl1 .1watt mode, ur right the feel isnt there but great if u didnt want yo bother anyone.
Those little devices make it possible for us all to enjoy what the neighbours might not really 😁 it’s great those exist and it’s an awesome video as always. What’s the blue Telecaster Les Paul on the right there? 😋
Captor X is one of the best pieces of gear, I´ve bought in years! Btw, Genelec is a Finnish company! 💥
Awesome vid guys
First off, I will be turning Pete's sip of tea at 1:51 into a GIF for future use when conveying sarcasm, so thank you for that Pete.
Secondly, I was looking for better information about the Captor X as I'm delving more into trying to push my amp. Seeing as how my neighbourhood was actually laid out by an airline company and my next door neighbour has passively complained about the loudness of my guitar playing, I wanted to see if it could be a solution.
If you solely want attenuation, this is not the solution. Get a toneking Ironman attenuator. If you wanna run through studio monitors or record, this will be perfect 👌🏻
I’m running my JCm2555x into a two notes torpedo live, in krk rokit monitors, also torpedo remote s/w allows you to position 2 mics in the virtual studio. And when you are playing live but can’t take a 4 x 12 cab to the venue you can go straight to the PA and use in ears. This has been my set up since 2017 not changing it until it goes bang. Playing through a valve amp is not about feel it’s learning how to play the amp digital is sterile. Plu the torpedo live has a led VU meter
Looks like an interesting solution. I'm curious what will happen if you do a comparison - real amp + attenuator + IR loader against a digital modeller that supports IR, with the same IR file loaded on both. That would completely expose any difference between the amp sim and the real amp.
The Captor X is friggin epic.
I added another jack socket to the back of my Fender Bassbreaker 15 combo.
That lets me use the combo's speaker but attenuated as well as all the Captor X bells and whistles.
I run my wet/dry rig through two Captors into two Genelecs at home, sounds great. All the front end dynamics of my favourite valve amps at a reasonable volume. 😊😆
I had a captor, and no matter how i set my input - output level, each time i played my Gretsch I had these distortion like artefacts. A strat sounded good, but the gretsch never sounded close to it being played straight in the amp and cab. I gave up eventually. I would have loved it to work.
This is making me now think about trying a tube amp with a captor after being a modeller user for years and years 🤔
It was about time you made this video. We now need digital John to come and show what the best setup for a digital modeller would be. Which studio monitors or FRFR, with an audio interface or I dont know what
My home rig is 15 year old vox VT 30 modified with a Jenson speaker on the vox AC 30 setting, I have cheap silver horse klon in-between the amp and my Harley Benton vintage series custom telecaster. I love it I don't think I could get a better sound in my small flat with paper thin walls. Even a five watt tube amp is way too loud for my gaff. I had the landlord round a few years ago with sound recording equipment because the neighbors didn't like it when I got my fender 2x10 tube amp almost to number 2 on the volume knob, each to their own though isn't it, whatever floats your boat, I mean for me I've got to be realistic I've got no use for anything bigger than the combo I've got, it's the just the nature of home playing in a house that isn't detached.
I've thought about getting one of these, but instead got one of the JHS Little Black Boxes and put that in my loop of my 120W 5150 head into a 4x12. Crack it and at bedroom levels. But anymore I mostly run my laptop into an audio interface (Focusrite) and powered speakers (JBL),with the Neural DSP Plugins. For $100 they sound amazing, have effects and stereo. Just another option if you play at home. Mesa's, SLO, 5150, etc. I'm at my desk anyway so makes things easy and quick. Save as many presets as you want and use a Behringer FCB1010 (or other midi pedal) and scroll and turn effects on/off.
Bit too spendy to use with a little 4 watt DIY champ clone into my 2x12, but having heard the name Bugera in this video and then read about them I'm going to buy one of those power soaks - just the job for me at home.
What a beautiful PRS my god
Running a Captor 8 between my Victory Sheriff and a 1x12 cab in my living room. Definitely don’t love the 20dB pad but it’s not terrible. I wonder if I should try running the dual output of the amp to both the captor and my cab. Still could route the line out to a studio monitor or maybe a FRFR. Should be said, this is most useful for recording to DAW. I didn’t need the X because you get Wall of Sound plug-in and a couple of IRs for free.
I have the THR for some years. It's a great package and sits well on the desk. But... I'm a geek and I build my own tube amp with 12AX7 and just 5 Watt. I also build a loudspeaker as a 2x12. The amp has drive and master volume, but with full drive and a low master volume, it was still to loud for the kids. So I build in a headphone amp with different analog cabinet simulations, but I forget that the tube amp always need a load = cabinet. So, the next thing is to build a silent mode for it.
I want to take a trip to the UK just to visit Anderton’s!
I'd love to see these demoed with bass.
I suspect you'd need a bigger active monitor to handle the lower range frequencies.
Love my ox box and my Captor X
Big speakers can go quiet too and you keep the low end
Put a compressor before your amp and an attenuator after your amp. You get the "air moving" effect
Nice jam
I bought a captor 4 hoping the -20 db out would be a suitable practice volume using a 1964 bandmaster. It wasn't, but that might be because my drummer mics his kit, and has 2 18" subs behind him and a full range monitor.
I have had a captor x and put my nice amps through to my genelec 8020. nice enough but an hx stomp is infinitely better sounding as well as easier and more versatile
I have a studio vintage 20. If I had one of these and cranked it would it turn the light red?
The Captain definetly knows what's the "taste of good stuff" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I run two combos with Captors attenuating at -20dB at home as a wet/dry.
The results of the sound with the captor depend on the amp for me. I played a PRS MT 15 through it and it just kinda lost all its tightness compared to being cranked into a cab. My Hughes & Kettner Grandmeister sounds better through it but the captor is kinda defeating the purpose because that amp has a built in Red Box and you can go straight into your interface.
I have the bugera psa1 and a nice 4x12 that i use at my apartment with no complaints from the neighbors. If I close mic the cab I'm positive I could record great tones at home. The line out does leave much to be desired but it's jsut a power soak essentially
I had the captor but the volume cut was too much. The PS1 is a perfect solution for me too. Pity the line out is so crap but anyway, the attenuation is amazing.
@@marksvideochannel3592 agreed! And the line out in anything without an IR option won't sound great so I live with it haha much cheaper and good results
Will this work with a regular guitar speaker cabinet (2x12) too?
You chaps neglected to mention two of the coolest features:
1-Smart noise gate
2-Twin tracker
Well done lads
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Im surprised you guys havent taken a look at the Fryette Power Station PS-2 and PS-100! I think you'll be impressed! Ive been using two, live and home, through a 1959HW and a JTM45 (both acquired through Andertons I may add ;)) and Its ridiculous how transparent it is with not only the sound, but the feel. They don't have a cab sim built in them but you can run out of your cab at whisper volumes., or just use a cab sim pedal/software on computer. Also has an FX loop as its a re-amping box, sort of like the TAE but id argue sounds better even thought less techy.
Would be interesting to see//hear what you think. :)
I might get one of these
Hmm, can I finally go buy my dream amp? Which is a dr. z plus. I always thought it might be too loud, and even thought about getting a profiler with dr. z emulations. But with this thing I might just do it! And I already have two of those Genelecs running...
I did a show with the Doobie Bros a while back... they used isolation cabs miked up back stage. They sounded great.
Perfect timing. I have a Captor X on sale on ebay. Get bidding folks! ;-)