I've been practicing this for about a month, though some days I didn't do it, and can now find all the natural notes much more quickly. My fretting hand started to just go to the proper fret (most of the time) before I'd even thought about it. Like magic!
Hi Tomasso, IT WORKS This is my third day exercising and already have nailed A and B. Man, have I seached long for this exercise, I knew it was boring, but somehow I expected that and wanted that. Best thing however, IT REALLY works. thx and regards Wouter
I think I remember Vai saying that when he returned to Satch for his second guitar lesson, and it quickly became obvious that Vai hadn’t learnt all the notes on the fretboard yet, he basically sent Vai away and told him to come back for his second lesson, once he had … 😶😊 I’m not sure whether that’s true or not, but probably a great jump start if it is …
FaceBook is down, so now you have time to learn your notes :-) 00:05 What about 7th string guitars? 01:00 Learning the accidentals (sharps and flats) 02:11 Can a complete beginner do this? 02:41 Practicing above the 12th fret 03:50 When do I know when to move to the next exercise? 04:29 Should I look at the fretboard? 05:14 What about open strings? 06:24 In exercise three, are you supposed to play the sharps and flats additionally or exclusively? 06:44 Singing the notes along with playing them, is this a distraction or helpful? 07:18 It could’ve been great to show hands on the exercises instead of graphics.
Thanks for this exercise Tomasso. I am an intermediate player who never took the time to do it. So, I knew enough to "get around", but also knew enough to understand what I was missing! So, I decided to commit to it. Because I was doing it on the bedside, my girlfriend decided to participate by making me 17 cards (7 natural + 5# + 5b) that I shuffle before doing the exercise. Then, I pick them up at random using my mobile as metronome. IT WORKS, and it did have a true influence on the "musically" of my playing and improv! Koodos to you!
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I have the same problem. What I did was to randomize the 17 notes for each day of the week (each day has a different randomized pattern). I then printed them as large as they would fit on an 11" (landscape) paper. So I have 7 rows of 17 notes. Then I cut a slit in a blank cover sheet the height of the letters such to blind the set above and below and advance it each day. My problem is that I often get lost when I look up at the sheet for the next note (in the string of 17 notes) while the metronome (currently @ 50 BPM) is running. I've been doing it every morning (in 10min. 32 sec. when I make no mistakes) for 4 months now and most of my mistakes happen for this reason. Any ideas for someone that has no human letter turner?
awesome man! I'm still practicing on the A note I'm new to this I purchased a book but it's confusing! I'm sure glad I found your channel you make it fun and easy to learn.
Hi Tommaso: I hope my experience with your method of learning the fretboard is helpful. I started doing it daily for 5 minutes when you published the video, Oct. 12, 2020. I proceeded exactly as you described and would say I averaged doing this 5 days a week, so I have been pretty diligent for a year. I use a website to generate random notes. Progress wasn't magical but I achieved (mostly) the last level at 80 bpm after 9 months. I'm still not perfect, though. Natural notes are easy now (as are some more common accidentals like C#) but some accidentals (like Db) still trip me up. You may say the C# and Db are the same notes, but my brain thinks more easily in C#, maybe because that's a common key. One deficit for me in this method is I still can't simply "see" all the notes up and down the fretboard; some I can, some not until I think for a second. I have some teaching apps that quiz you on random fretboard positions, and I think I need to do that to reach the final goal of "seeing" all the notes instantly, or maybe you have a suggestion. Thanks for the other great content you provide, too.
Would it helpful to do these exercises using I-IV-V notes rather than alphabetically or at random? For example if doing C, then follow that by doing the F note and then the G. And, when playing the notes mental envision the chord pattern that contains the note at whatever fret you're at? I know you advise against "pattern" learning for the purpose of locating notes, but the visual orientation to the chord happens sort of automatically if you know the common basic chord patterns. Thank you posting your very helpful video for learning fretboard notes.
Hi Tommaso, I'm glad someone brought up the question of what is an appropriate level for this exercise, and that you addressed it. Could you also discuss what level of proficiency with guitar someone should have before trying your paid courses? Thanks.
I'd say, if you can play a few open strings chords you can start Complete Chord Mastery, and if you can play one or two pentatonic scales you can start Master of the Modes.
hi Zillio, if you renember me i was the one comment on one of your series "how to memorize fretboard" before and i had few question about it - im now can play all the note on 80bpm easily but for some reason i still cant say the name of the note given on random string except low and high E string. For example: if someone pick fret 8 on A string, it will take longer for me try to tell what note it is and it happend smilar to other string (expect both E string) as well, should i just practies more and more till i can make it? - how can i applies this to learn scale? And how i learn scale? I would love if you make a video teaching theory behind and how to practies about this. i really hope you can light this up for me, Thank you And by the way, i really really loved your content it help me so much on my journey to become guitarlist
When you go through and increase the speed, do you suggest 5 bpm increases or 10 bpm increases? And when you get to 4 and 5, do you use the same sequence of notes, or do you pick new ones?
idk I was practicing that for three weeks, I don't think that helps too much. I don't really feel any improvement at all. For me it is a good sign that the excercise doesn't work. I'm glad you enjoy your excercise and feel excited for it, though. One extra thing: I don't think that's the way old guys did learn the fretboard, so it makes no sense to me (personally) to see these excercises as THE way to learn the fretboard as you try to convince us. Cheers!
I absolutely love your content. The only thing that kinda bothers me a little bit is the fact that RUclips tries to translate your video titles to (in my case) German and fails hilariously in doing so 😂 It would be probably better to remove that option and keep them in English because I suspect this happens for the other languages too. I dont know. Its your call
It also has trouble with English (the original language), especially if the speaker has an accent. In his video on Cinematic Melodies, "the common note ties the chord together" gets translated as "the common knot ties the cord together." I mentioned that this seems to have a Zen-like quality to it.
Hello, i wish i saw your video earlier ! I have one question please. Should i only do the exercise time to 5min ? or can i practice it more than that (like 30min or 1h) ?
Hey, thanks for the video. This is something I should have done 30 years ago lol. Question - does it matter what order you go through the notes? I'm tempted to go in order A to G to make it easier not to forget any of them.
Hi Tomasso, For excercises 2-5, should I always be playing the notes both forwards and backwards, or is that only for the excercises that you specified? I have just been doing them both ways, but it can make the practice take a very long time for the accidentals (for example), and I don't know if it's really necessary. And thank you, this method seems very practical compared to other "memorization" methods!
I been doing this and am on part 3. Accidentals takes you below the 12 fret move up one fret like from D to D# on third string. If I keeping with 12 fret rule should go to first fret to that D# on third string? Or at this point do ignore the 12 fret rule? My little brain hurts sorry :)
For step #5 playing 7 notes in random order, (e.g. DFCEAGB) do you mean play D string 6, F string 5, C string 4, etc. to string 1? Or do yo mean play D on each string from 6 to 1 then F for each from 1 to 6, then C from 6 to 1 and so on?
Oh Darn. Wish I had asked how long it’s ok to use the fretboard diagram for. I got to the point where I had to increase the speed of the metronome and was still looking at the diagram in front of me.
Is it better to learn the flat keys of scale instead on sharpkey in the major scale as a beginner because it avoids the Accidental and the confusion of what note are sharp or flat or has a double sharp or double flat, because there isn't a C## or a E# isn't on the fretboard but i notes are other notes because of the righy scale notation then in the future I can do the # ver when I'm really Familiar with the flat ver in improvisation but how should I learn the scale notation for scale that doesn't notes that not on the fretboard and how should I learn only the right scale notation on the fretboard and not the wrong one or learn the wrong one first them learn the right scale notation? Many thanks in advance
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I've been practicing this for about a month, though some days I didn't do it, and can now find all the natural notes much more quickly. My fretting hand started to just go to the proper fret (most of the time) before I'd even thought about it. Like magic!
Hi Tomasso,
IT WORKS
This is my third day exercising and already have nailed A and B.
Man, have I seached long for this exercise, I knew it was boring, but somehow I expected that and wanted that.
Best thing however, IT REALLY works.
thx and regards
Wouter
That's great to hear!
I think I remember Vai saying that when he returned to Satch for his second guitar lesson, and it quickly became obvious that Vai hadn’t learnt all the notes on the fretboard yet, he basically sent Vai away and told him to come back for his second lesson, once he had … 😶😊 I’m not sure whether that’s true or not, but probably a great jump start if it is …
FaceBook is down, so now you have time to learn your notes :-)
00:05 What about 7th string guitars?
01:00 Learning the accidentals (sharps and flats)
02:11 Can a complete beginner do this?
02:41 Practicing above the 12th fret
03:50 When do I know when to move to the next exercise?
04:29 Should I look at the fretboard?
05:14 What about open strings?
06:24 In exercise three, are you supposed to play the sharps and flats additionally or exclusively?
06:44 Singing the notes along with playing them, is this a distraction or helpful?
07:18 It could’ve been great to show hands on the exercises instead of graphics.
Thanks for this exercise Tomasso. I am an intermediate player who never took the time to do it. So, I knew enough to "get around", but also knew enough to understand what I was missing! So, I decided to commit to it. Because I was doing it on the bedside, my girlfriend decided to participate by making me 17 cards (7 natural + 5# + 5b) that I shuffle before doing the exercise. Then, I pick them up at random using my mobile as metronome. IT WORKS, and it did have a true influence on the "musically" of my playing and improv! Koodos to you!
Kudos to you and your girlfriend!! :) (the cards are a great idea!)
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I have the same problem. What I did was to randomize the 17 notes for each day of the week (each day has a different randomized pattern). I then printed them as large as they would fit on an 11" (landscape) paper. So I have 7 rows of 17 notes. Then I cut a slit in a blank cover sheet the height of the letters such to blind the set above and below and advance it each day. My problem is that I often get lost when I look up at the sheet for the next note (in the string of 17 notes) while the metronome (currently @ 50 BPM) is running. I've been doing it every morning (in 10min. 32 sec. when I make no mistakes) for 4 months now and most of my mistakes happen for this reason. Any ideas for someone that has no human letter turner?
@@timsmith190 smart!
awesome man! I'm still practicing on the A note I'm new to this I purchased a book but it's confusing! I'm sure glad I found your channel you make it fun and easy to learn.
You reminded me to do this again, I did it for a few days and then let it slip 😀
Considering the question about singing the notes while playing them, singing notes with their names might be a good idea
Hi Tommaso: I hope my experience with your method of learning the fretboard is helpful. I started doing it daily for 5 minutes when you published the video, Oct. 12, 2020. I proceeded exactly as you described and would say I averaged doing this 5 days a week, so I have been pretty diligent for a year. I use a website to generate random notes. Progress wasn't magical but I achieved (mostly) the last level at 80 bpm after 9 months. I'm still not perfect, though. Natural notes are easy now (as are some more common accidentals like C#) but some accidentals (like Db) still trip me up. You may say the C# and Db are the same notes, but my brain thinks more easily in C#, maybe because that's a common key. One deficit for me in this method is I still can't simply "see" all the notes up and down the fretboard; some I can, some not until I think for a second. I have some teaching apps that quiz you on random fretboard positions, and I think I need to do that to reach the final goal of "seeing" all the notes instantly, or maybe you have a suggestion. Thanks for the other great content you provide, too.
Hi John, would you mind sharing which apps you use?
When do you stop using the fretboard diagram?. Will it happen naturally or do you recommend a specific time to let it go?
Shout out for mentioning the banjo 🪕
Would it helpful to do these exercises using I-IV-V notes rather than alphabetically or at random? For example if doing C, then follow that by doing the F note and then the G.
And, when playing the notes mental envision the chord pattern that contains the note at whatever fret you're at? I know you advise against "pattern" learning for the purpose of locating notes, but the visual orientation to the chord happens sort of automatically if you know the common basic chord patterns.
Thank you posting your very helpful video for learning fretboard notes.
For this exercise only, I would avoid ANY pattern. For other exercises or activities, patterns are OK.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar thank u for reply. I will randomize the selection of note.
Hi Tommaso, I'm glad someone brought up the question of what is an appropriate level for this exercise, and that you addressed it. Could you also discuss what level of proficiency with guitar someone should have before trying your paid courses? Thanks.
I'd say, if you can play a few open strings chords you can start Complete Chord Mastery, and if you can play one or two pentatonic scales you can start Master of the Modes.
hi Zillio, if you renember me i was the one comment on one of your series "how to memorize fretboard" before and i had few question about it
- im now can play all the note on 80bpm easily but for some reason i still cant say the name of the note given on random string except low and high E string. For example: if someone pick fret 8 on A string, it will take longer for me try to tell what note it is and it happend smilar to other string (expect both E string) as well, should i just practies more and more till i can make it?
- how can i applies this to learn scale? And how i learn scale? I would love if you make a video teaching theory behind and how to practies about this. i really hope you can light this up for me, Thank you
And by the way, i really really loved your content it help me so much on my journey to become guitarlist
awesome answers!!!
Great video, thanks. I'm an old guy trying to do this, when do I have to stop using the fretboard diagram? I find I always need it (step 1).
When you go through and increase the speed, do you suggest 5 bpm increases or 10 bpm increases? And when you get to 4 and 5, do you use the same sequence of notes, or do you pick new ones?
thanks, this helped a lot!
All down picks or should you alternate pick?
idk I was practicing that for three weeks, I don't think that helps too much. I don't really feel any improvement at all. For me it is a good sign that the excercise doesn't work. I'm glad you enjoy your excercise and feel excited for it, though.
One extra thing: I don't think that's the way old guys did learn the fretboard, so it makes no sense to me (personally) to see these excercises as THE way to learn the fretboard as you try to convince us. Cheers!
I absolutely love your content. The only thing that kinda bothers me a little bit is the fact that RUclips tries to translate your video titles to (in my case) German and fails hilariously in doing so 😂 It would be probably better to remove that option and keep them in English because I suspect this happens for the other languages too. I dont know. Its your call
It also has trouble with English (the original language), especially if the speaker has an accent. In his video on Cinematic Melodies, "the common note ties the chord together" gets translated as "the common knot ties the cord together." I mentioned that this seems to have a Zen-like quality to it.
I put the notes in the order of the circle of 5ths to learn that at the same time now
Hello, i wish i saw your video earlier ! I have one question please. Should i only do the exercise time to 5min ? or can i practice it more than that (like 30min or 1h) ?
Do these exercises wit or without looking at the frets? :)
First looking, and then without.
Hey, thanks for the video. This is something I should have done 30 years ago lol. Question - does it matter what order you go through the notes? I'm tempted to go in order A to G to make it easier not to forget any of them.
Any order will do
I must say this one guy does always ask a lot of questions
Hi Tomasso,
For excercises 2-5, should I always be playing the notes both forwards and backwards, or is that only for the excercises that you specified?
I have just been doing them both ways, but it can make the practice take a very long time for the accidentals (for example), and I don't know if it's really necessary.
And thank you, this method seems very practical compared to other "memorization" methods!
I meant forward and backwards, but what you say works too!
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar
Oh ok gotcha. Thank you I will practice the accidentals forward and backwards then
I been doing this and am on part 3. Accidentals takes you below the 12 fret move up one fret like from D to D# on third string. If I keeping with 12 fret rule should go to first fret to that D# on third string? Or at this point do ignore the 12 fret rule? My little brain hurts sorry :)
For step #5 playing 7 notes in random order, (e.g. DFCEAGB) do you mean play D string 6, F string 5, C string 4, etc. to string 1? Or do yo mean play D on each string from 6 to 1 then F for each from 1 to 6, then C from 6 to 1 and so on?
The second one
Oh Darn. Wish I had asked how long it’s ok to use the fretboard diagram for. I got to the point where I had to increase the speed of the metronome and was still looking at the diagram in front of me.
Don't worry, no permanent damage done, and it's easy to fix :-)
Is it better to learn the flat keys of scale instead on sharpkey in the major scale as a beginner because it avoids the Accidental and the confusion of what note are sharp or flat or has a double sharp or double flat, because there isn't a C## or a E# isn't on the fretboard but i notes are other notes because of the righy scale notation then in the future I can do the # ver when I'm really Familiar with the flat ver in improvisation but how should I learn the scale notation for scale that doesn't notes that not on the fretboard and how should I learn only the right scale notation on the fretboard and not the wrong one or learn the wrong one first them learn the right scale notation? Many thanks in advance
Should I use only my index finger when fretting the notes or can I use other fingers when fretting? Does it matter which finger I use?
Doesn't matter
6:24 should answer my question, but I still don't understand properly I think..
A question that has bothered me for some time...
Why are parallel 5ths "forbidden" (for lack of a better word) but parallel 4ths are not?
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