I had a conversation with my Father when the cantina went up, he collected SW from POTF2 till 2009 Legacy Collection. Had every figure except con exclusives and vehicles. He told me if a backer hasn't collected from POTF2 to TVC, they will spend more money populating that Cantina than on the Cantina itself because those figures are going to skyrocket. It's not worth it if you don't have everything.
Sure, but I think much like the sail barge the primary target for this is probably the niche group that does have all the figures and are just looking for a way to display them. These things are targeted at the hardest of the hardcore collectors.
I have close enough to everything to populate the cantina but I won't be getting it. I have a custom cantina and I'm done with collecting anyway. But I can understand the excitement for collectors looking forward to getting this set.
I’m surprised you don’t feel more strongly about the cantina. As you said, it’s not an “action environment” in terms of people killing each other (mostly), but it is one of the most famous scenes in Star Wars, and one of the most well-known scenes in films in general. Even folks who don’t know Star Wars too well are aware of it. It was that moment during the original film where we see the Star Wars galaxy is far richer than just humans, robots, and masked tuskens and Jawas. A bunch of random, crazy looking aliens standing around drinking and getting into fights is what the scene is loved for, and which translates well into a great display and conversation piece. The modularity is ideal in terms of making it work for your display space. I’d also expect they’ll support it with more cantina characters and reissues next year around the time the cantina comes out. There was no stage for the band. This was done in reshoots in LA. They were filmed in a regular alcove like many of the other aliens, and they do fit as demonstrated in today’s Pulse upload. At the end of the day, they have made many cantina characters over the nearly 30 years of the modern line, and it’s nice to finally give them a home. And it’s nice to finally have access to the Tonnika Sisters after all this time.
@@retroblasting This is like the first comment I’ve ever left on your channel. Not sure why you feel the need to be defensive. I’m not wringing my hands. Just calmly offering a respectful counterpoint. But if that’s not allowed I guess I’ll move on. Oh well. Just because you explain something clearly you believe to be true doesn’t make you right. I mean, I would argue more action happens in the cantina than on Dagobah, which you noted would have made a better HasLab. 🤷♀️
@@VictoriasCantina he also completely missed the part about there not being a band stand in the cantina as it was originally designed and that they play in one of the alcoves. The Cantina scene is arguably one of the most famous and deserves a place in TVC.
@@retroblastingthat's the play. Why sell a set for 3 characters when you can sell a few tables for 500 and then sell 50 more figures to fill it. Hasbro act like they're on the verge of bankruptcy with all their resources and such an iconic brand.
I wouldn’t have wanted this thing as a kid but as an adult let’s face it, we’re basically setting up dioramas for our collection, not playing with them.
As a diorama it’s a bit weird. Much like the Lego version (which at least makes an attempt at the outside) as a diorama, where do you put this thing? How do you display it? A key element of most dioramas is viewing angle. This is less diorama and more architectural model of the interior.
Yes, that was what i was thinking of writing in the comments as well. Who in his/her older ages would really really play and not just put it up for display? Most Toys nowaday are more for display than play-sets ... even Lego... wich is sad. I would have loved to play more with my son (that he has different interest is another matter).
Play value... I mean, if a person wants to have their figures milling about in Castle Grayskull, Terrordrome, USS Flagg, Sewer Lair, etc. Who's going to stop them? If you wanna have bar fights, a droid uprising, alien orgies, pony invasion, or a Kylie Minogue concert in your cantina, go for it. If a kid can take a blanket and turn it into a mountain fortress getting invaded by ninjas, you can use your imagination to come up with a play scenario for anything.
Speaking of jabbas palace, I’m printing a massive two floor jabbas palace made by Luke Massassi, with a rancor pit, droid chamber, and throne room. As you say, the fans are doing the best work.
C’mon Man! This is a work of art! Did you not see the amount of detail on this set? When we were kids we had the plastic piece with the cardboard background and that was our cantina. This is what we always wanted. It’s not like anybody willing to spend that kind of money on this set doesn’t already have a tub or two filled with figures waiting to quench their thirst. Hell, Cobra Commander and Spock can join Han for a drink! This hobby is supposed to be fun, remember?
It's a display piece. If you have the figures of all the (dozens of) cantina aliens (and realistically, most people who would be buying this probably do), it gives you a way to display them in context. As for the band, in the movie, they were just shot in one of the alcoves, so the playset allows they to be displayed exactly how they were in the film. There is no "stage" in the actual set. Realistically, I think the fact that they can produce the entire locale more or less to scale probably helps.
@@retroblasting On a table. It's also modular so you can display it in sections if you choose. That said I personally think the "base" offering is probably better suited for display.
1. I would agree that this doesn’t necessarily have a lot of action/play value as a “play set”. However, I don’t need it to. I’m not going to play with it, because I’m not ten anymore. I’m just going to be using it as a diorama. Which is probably what most adult collectors will be doing, and it is clearly aimed at adult collectors. I would also argue there is enough action value just as a diorama. This is after all where Obi Wan cuts off Ponda Baba’s arm, and where Han kills Greedo because he shot first. There are plenty of scenes to put on display 2. I have been collecting the aliens that populate this cantina for years. I’m thrilled to have a display to put them in. 3. I’m glad they didn’t include the cantina band! They just released a boxed set of the whole Cantina Band a year ago. I bought it then. I don’t want figure slots wasted on something already available; something I have anyway. 4. The band stand. This one I don’t blame people for not understanding, but they did include the bandstand. Sort of. The original film set of the cantina did not have the band. All those scenes were shot without them. You can tell when you watch the movie. They aren’t in a single wide shot, nowhere in the background. This is because the band was conceived of later and shot later by themselves in one of the alcoves from the cantina film set . This is also why in shots of the band, you can’t see anybody but the band. I think Hasbro wanted to be faithful to the original film set so you can set it up with all the alcoves full of furniture and patrons, or if you really want the band you can just remove the furniture from one of the alcoves and put the band in it and voila!
Disagree. The Cantina was the only dioramma display that I had back in the day when I used to collect. It was great to stick all kinds of figures in there from other lines. It was sort of an cross-dimensional watering hole. It is the one place you can stick just about any figure and it works. It's like mini Rotgut station.
Anyone could show up at the cantina, except maybe ewoks. It was where anyone could meet coming or going; Rebels, Imperials, bounty hunters, jawas, Jabba's henchmen, etc... You couldn't put just anyone at Echo Base or on the Death Star.
The original cantina was my first Star Wars toy. I liked having my figures stand around in it. In fact, if I still had it, my remaining figures would be displayed it. After all, even action figures need a drink now and then.
The cantina is one of the most iconic scenes in all of Star Wars. As you said, the collectors are getting old. Most of them probably don't sit around and actually play with the figures, they display them. This is going to be a great way to display them. Especially for those who love the cantina scene and world building alien. I am looking forward to this.
I would have loved this as a kid. But, I'm 52 now, and I don't want a toy to play with. I want something to display the cantina characters I have been collecting over the last 45 years.
@@stevedunford6089 And that's who this is aimed at, longtime fans with disposable income who want something they've been missing. I don't expect a lot of people who don't already have the alien figures will buy it. Though, with a few exceptions, a lot of them can be found cheaply online and at places that sell comics, collectibles, and "antiques." I'm 39, I'm not going to get on the floor and play with it (at least, not much), I want something to set on the shelf and display my figures. Without display environments, the figures are just going to be packed away in a bin.
These are adult collectables not toys. Toys are for kids and no kid pays the money that the Vintage Collection costs. These "playsets" from Hasbro are and have always been buildable dioramas for your figures
Remember: Wuher and the Tonnikas are only available with this Haslab. They will be some of the rarest Star Wars figures ever and command top dollars on the aftermarket.
When I saw Star Wars in the cinema in 1978 aged 5, my favourite location was the Cantina - we first meet Han Solo, he blasts Greedo, we first see a lightsaber in action. I loved my Greedo, Walrusman, Hammerhead and Snaggletooth figures. The Cantina has been the most requested large playset for years, certainly since HasLab became a thing. There are some major issues with this, i.e. the lack of an exterior, it looks so unfinished. But this has been my dream item for decades, so I'm in. Many 3.75" collectors are very happy to getting a Cantina, despite its issues.
Aside from Jabba's Palace, the next placer with the biggest number of figures is the Cantina. That's why people like it, you can get a lot of characters together interacting and not just inside but also outside since they made the entrance areas. So you can put your Dewback there, Luke's Speeder, the Ronto, Sandtroopers, Jawas, droids etc and then all the aliens inside. Same with Jabba's Palace, he has a ton of goons and denizens and you can do various scenes like Boushh with Chewbacca or Luke confronting Jabba. Cloud City has one major sequence - The Carbon Freezing Chamber - which hasbro already did. That has a large amound of figures that can go in one space (Stormtroopers, Chewbacca, 3PO, Leia, Lando, Lobot, Bespin guards, Boba Fett, Darth Vader, Ugnaughts, carbonite block). What are you going to do with a few corridor backdrops? There aren't Cloud City residents figures and they have only ever made two guards.
I had actually stopped collecting modern Star Wars a while ago, but this is the one item that has brought me back in for one last hurrah. For me, there was something fun about collecting Cantina aliens. It’s just such a diverse scene that for me it makes for a very interesting display piece. I also have every single alien already, so in a way the pre-investment for this is already taken care of. I get that this isn’t for everyone, but I’m pretty stoked about this and hope that it gets made.
"Over 100 cups included." I remember when my mother used to complain about having to attend friends' Tupperware parties. Who knew drinkware would be so enticing to Star Wars fans. We're going to sell you a $500 empty warehouse (with ceilings over every alcove, so even if you look down on it, you can't see in). You're going to have to provide the no-longer-manufactured, hard-to-find inventory to stock it.
It’s iconic. It allows you to display an extraordinary amount of figures. It includes grail figures collectors have wanted for decades. The argument that these are obscure figures is ridiculous as the entire toy line thrived on background characters since the 70’s. Mando was created by people wanting to bring obscure toys to life. Also, “it’s just a bar.”? Then advocating for a swamp where almost no one goes? Great playset.
I, for one, at this point in my life am over "playability." All of this stuff I display and the modularity allows you to display this several different ways. I'm excited about it.
$500 for 3.75 playset for the cantina that people are making themselves with foam and styrene. And today, fans can 3d print it. Sisters figures…ok. But no blue snaggeltooth (which I’m sure they will announce as a 4th tier when they can’t meet their fundraising goal).
@@georgeaitken2719 Maybe not. what we've seen so far are likely test-shots, not tooled figures. The tooling likely won't be made until the goal is hit. Plus, they have a commercial incentive to keep this stuff exclusive to drive FOMO among collectors.
I feel like they need to change the terms for these kinds of items. This is just a diorama for adult collectors to display their figures on a display shelf. No kid is ever going to use it as a playset. My son was kinda into Star Wars on and off, mostly collected the Galaxy squadron ships. But man, it’s sad toy shopping these days. He goes to target to wander almost empty isles when I remember going to toys r us and there were wall to wall toys everywhere.
Well yeah, most of the toys were grabbed either A. before they even hit the shelves because the employees called their buddy who has an Ebay store, or else they got rifled through two minutes after the store opened by the same guy who's there to snap up everything for either his Ebay store, or his table at the local flea market. It is virtually impossible to see anything desirable at Wal-Mart/Target/etc. these days if you just happen to stop by. I say "these days", as though this hasn't been the case for twenty plus years I've collected, my bad. Sorry about that. These days I just preorder all my toys on BBTS or Amazon. I'm done looking through all the pegwarmers hoping to find something cool.
12:53 "yes, it has a lot of pieces! Mostly cups." Is one of the most telling points you could've made. That should be the tagline in your Manchild news next month lol.
Hey! So the reason the cantina band wasn't included is because there was actually never a place for the band on the original set where the cantina scene was filmed. It was an insert shot picked up in the united states in a separate studio. The only time the cantina band has appeared on a stage was in the Star Wars Holiday Special. Adding some sort of band stand would have required changing the layout of the Cantina seen in the film, and film accuracy is always the goal, espcially with Haslabs.
@@retroblasting I agree it would be very nice to have a place for the band. I think given the modular design of the playset, the best case scenario would have been to add a stage as a modular piece that can be swapped out for one of the alcoves.
The problem is- if it gets fully funded with all stretch goals met and you want to buy the exclusive figures ONLY, by the time you get them on the secondary market it’s probably going to cost more than if you just bought the whole thing in the first place.
There's a massive 4-foot Death Star playset with functioning pieces, LED's and 12 areas from the film (the tractor beam even lights up and there's an electric trash compactor, apparently), coming from Hasbro at some point. I've seen the plans and it looks terrific. Unfortunately, like this, it'll be another crowdfunding piece, though and I just refuse to take part in a crowdfunding effort from a company that made $5 BILLION last year. Or at least I'm telling myself that. There's principle and then there's....a 4 foot Death Star playset. lol It'll be a moral struggle. lol
I can recall seeing collectors asking for a cantina playset ever since I first started collecting SW myself as a young whippersnapper back around the time _Revenge of the Sith_ hit theatres. I don't understand it myself, but it seems like the cantina has always been and always will be a fixture in the minds of many OT fans (maybe because it was a big "wham" moment with the plethora of alien creatures suddenly on display in a film that had up until that point been fairly retrained in its use of non-human characters), and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that, any more than people wanting Jabba's sail barge.
I always thought Obi-Wan's home would've been an interesting little companion playset to Yoda's hut. Could have a little Leia "projection effect", the trunk with the lightsaber, maybe even a droid maintenance area in back where you can park the Landspeeder and give Threepio a hot oil bath?
There’s no stage for the band because there was no stage for the band on the set. They were added in pickups shoots. There also was no “stage” for the pickup shots they’re in anyways, they just play in one of the alcoves
I feel the same about Haslabs. Should not be a thing in the first place, but if they’re going to do it, it should be “dream projects.” This has nothing on the Sail Barge.
@@Henez89 And what's sad is that the only one really successful are the ones relating around Transformers. And those are the only ones they're really putting any real effort into instead of making glorified dollhouses like with Star Wars. And even then you have Unicron, who was a complete waste of money and space and SHOULD have bombed from the word go because of how ill-conceived he was. Size and posability alone do not make a good toy, and it's why I never upgraded past my Armada version.
When I first saw the Star Wars parody short 'Hardware Wars' as a kid in '79, the moment the Obi Won character warns them of the wretched scum and villainy within and the gang then enter this Mos Esley bar, and it's a perfect time capsule of the seedest late 70s watering hole, sh*tbox dive of hippies, burnouts and shiftless layabouts put to film, even my 8 year old self laughed instantly rolling on the ground. I remember getting a huge unintentional laugh from the family when asked what was so funny about that scene and I said, 'Because, they said be careful of that place cause all the scary people, and it looks just like the place dad aiways goes to to see his friends.' Star Wars Catina set piece: A Small Mint. Accidentally ratting out pops to mom and in-laws on Easter Sunday: priceless.
I’m getting it because I have always loved the eclectic nature of the Cantina. You can see an alien that looks like the Devil, wolf man, an insect, anything. Anything you could imagine would fit in there. It’s like an “alien carnival”, LOL. I’m not a purest. I will put Star Trek, fantasy, Joy Toy, etc., in the display. It’s not an essential part of the story, the kid in me just loves the idea! I do agree about LED lighting and including the band. I wish they would’ve done that. You watch, they’ll come out with a “Band set” (with characters and instruments) that will cost 150 bucks!😂😂😂
“It’s a diorama at best” Well yah dude. We’re like 35-50 yo’s. I wasn’t planning on playing with it. Damn thing is 500 so im definitely not tossing it to my 4yo either. They also chose Cantina w random figs because they know you’ll buy them as they’re not available in previous releases. Plus the music. I mean getting an arm lobbed off isn’t exactly boring either. It’s actually the most violent thing in the movie aside from Uncle Owen that is.
What's hilarious is that they didn't put the cantina in the disney parks but will charge you 500$ for the toy. What mismanagement all around for Disney Star Wars.
@@retroblasting Nothing really happens? We see obi wan use his powers to protect Luke. We meet Han Solo and Chewy. Greedo gets shot. Han and Obi make the deal to hire Han that moves the story along.
The Cantina is a great display piece (diorama) that you can populate many figures into for an accurate theatrical effect! It is much the same as Jabba’s Palace with all the alien denizens. It is not necessary “that not much happened” in the way of action, because this was the takeaway scene from A New Hope. Everyone in the late seventies was blown away by the cantina scene!!! Great point about the band though. Hopefully Hasbro will take your lead on offering alien 3-packs to populate this thing!
I completely agree. While modern toys are not my concern, I don’t like seeing people get ripped off and if this thing gets backed, it will give Hasbro license to jack up all their prices, safe in the knowledge that there’ll be a line of people saying, “take my money, Hasbro”.
The cantina has always been much more interesting then could city or the emperors's throne.It's full of cool looking aliens and bits and pieces that you can pose and move around and play with.
I sort of understand the complaint about the Cantina as not being prominent in the film. He does also mention the plethora of figures released from the cantina scene. I think most figure collectors have enough figures to fill it out.
...Michael look, I love your channel, and I understand your desire to take down Hasbro, but your assessment that The Cantina is not a place of significance has me bewildered a bit.. The Cantina IS Star Wars!! I was five years old when I saw Star Wars in the theater. It had spectacular action, a very frightening big baddie, and some talking robots. We learned of the mysterious Force, met our Farmboy hero, and a crazy old wizard...BUT.. When our heroes arrived in the bar, and you see that first alien headshot, followed by a pan around the room to all these magnificently designed creatures, that’s when this galaxy BECAME a galaxy far, far way. I was only a child, but I was in absolute awe of what I was seeing. Everyone was. We met, for the first time, this wretched hive of scum & villainy..It was the first time we saw a lightsaber light up and do it’s thing!!! We met a cocky smuggler with a debt to pay, and watched him take out a bounty hunter BEFORE the bounty hunter took him out!! And those who wish to back this project, like myself, have or will have most of these characters from the modern line to populate it with..( The secondary market on some of these characters will blow through the roof I’m sure.) The Cantina, with all it’s strange creatures & renegade characters is what Star Wars was built on, and this set is a dream come true!!
@@TrevorToonArt You say this just after the re release of the phantom menace did great in theaters and at a time in which prequel fans are more vocal than ever about their love and appreciation for those films.
But thank god they didn’t, because i stG if it’s a Jar Jar anything! No seriously, Anikans home with mom, or the parts strore arguing over credits. Maybe the market w Sebulba. Be cool.
Bespin World could be made in quarters, four separate pie piece sets that when put together form a huge circular environment, that resembles the shape of Cloud City. 1. Guest Quarters/Dining Room 2. Dungeon/Torture Area 3. The Freeze Chamber 4. Luke/Vader Battle Area
I'll offer my two cents on why I plan on backing the Cantina: in the first movie, it's more than just a seedy dive bar where we meet Han and Chewie, and where Han shoots first(!) to show that he don't take no guff from a lizard... for the audience, it's the first real (and only) glimpse of the much wider universe that Star Wars exists in, in the first movie. Here are all of these insanely different alien creatures from all corners of the galaxy just hanging out casually without any fuss or muss. It exemplifies the lived-in aspect of how old this universe has been around that thousands of aliens are so familiar with one another that they can dine and drink side-by-side. There's no shock at seeing a sentient bug, or a werewolf, or penis-head musicians... As a kid, the cantina scene shows (show, don't tell, is the adage that great storytellers should adhere to) that it's a giant melting pot, where humans are just another bunch of aliens admist many -- and arguably, humans are the worst of the galaxy, given that they run the Empire! So there's a lot more to the significance of the Cantina that I feel like you're leaving out, as I think that's the real reason it's so iconic and people remember it so well.
I think they could have something more interesting but its an iconic location, Greedo is shot, Ben has a fight and we meet Chewie and Han. I mean its just as action packed as anywhere else in many respects and more iconic than a swamp.
I don’t collect Star Wars but this set just looks incredible. I would populate it with Battlestar Galactica pilots and GI Joes. I would set up the Converters pinball and roulette robots. Forget the Cantina band, I’d have Cold Slither rocking out. This set looks like a super fun way to display a ton of figures. This is a long way from that freeze chamber on stilts.
Nothing happens? When it was just a cardboard backdrop a single table and a slice of bar it was the most action-packed playset we had. I mean, I get that you want your Cloud City playset. Me too. But, this playset has tons of playability. It is definitely not just a diorama. My son is excited to play with it when it shows up, and I'm excited to put everyone back in their place when he's done.
This is great, it’s Friday evening (here in the U.K.), it’s the beginning of the weekend, the Euro finals start tonight. I’ve got my Heineken in hand, and it’s a new retroblasting video too. Life’s great!
I quite like the choice of environment. I'm displaying the figures, not playing with them. That being said, I'm not paying this much for this playset at that price level. It's twice the price it should be. Maybe $300 for the deluxe version with the included figures, but $500 is extreme. It's a few plastic walls with some detailed accessories.
@@retroblasting with some patience you will find them all for a great price. Bought pons limbic , Dr. Evazan, and 2x Trinto Duaba+ Dice Ibegon all moc for 10euro a piece this year.
The cantina was not my first choice, and I'm not a hasbro shill, but I understand this from a business perspective. They can make new figures and reissue older ones, like the Khetanna. Michael is wrong on this one.
I have just started rebuilding my POTF2 collection, since I still have the vehicles from when I was a teenager and, thanks to that “Last 17” bullshit, I’ve pretty much given up hope on rebuilding the vintage Kenner collection I used to have as a small child. I’m quite positive I can put together a cantina display using only toys from the POTF2 line, and it would not only be more satisfying, but also SO MUCH CHEAPER!
I think it's a cool playset. As a kid and if we go back to the original Star Wars, we were amazed of all the types of alien characters we got to see. I agree, it's dedicated to 40 o 50 year old star wars fans like me but I would love to add some other creatures and have it displayed on a table. I'm cool about that.
While this is way too expensive for my tastes, I know folks who have a soft spot for the cantina. Some people have gone to the effort to 3D print their own so they can have a cool place to display their iconic cantina aliens. Hell, my favorite character is a two second cantina critter (Kabe). I personally am happy with my cardboard POTF cantina.
Maybe I’m crazy but my first guess seeing this is that they looked at the expensive UCS Lego set of the cantina and that was what made them decide it was a good and profitable location to choose for this.
Difference is the lego set has about 25 figures of all the aliens in the cantina, With all the main named characters too. This has none of that and lacks even a stage for the band, arguably the most iconic part of the while cantina sequence of a new hope.
@@diablo_wayne Absolutely right. The Lego set works because it’s a complete package. Not to mention Lego have already given more interesting vehicles and locations high price point treatment several times over before they went to what is effectively just a big tan bar.
I'm 52, and gonna say that this is a hot take. Some fans' definitely want this set. Is it top of my list? No. But it's ANH. See nostalgia is a dangerous thing. I loved this scene as a kid cause I was a kid and the aliens were cool, mysterious and scary. So this set brings back strong memories. Just my pov.
I think the idea is that most 3.75” StarWars collectors already have some sort of cantina shelf or collection over the years. This is meant to give you a better place to put them. I don’t think it’s really intended as a jump off point, it’s more of a “here you can finally put them in a full cantina.” I’m not even a hardcore TVC collector and I have always had a cantina alien display of some kind.
I'd buy one if i had the money. I'd just populate it with different characters, Star Wars, Star Trek, Battle Star Galactica and Reaction figures. They would all be getting smashed together XD
For this to interest me, at the very least, I would like the band included on a bandstand with recorded Cantina music at the touch of a button. Perhaps some kind of action lever built into the bandstand to make all the band members appear to sway side to side. Still wouldn’t pay $500 bucks for it though.
I’ve been waiting for this one! 14 to 18 dollars for a 3.75 figure that at best is worth 6 dollars. Darn right Hasbro is charging way too much for this stuff.
I think what made the setting memorable and iconic was the lighting. Its an adult atmosphere, a rough setting. You get the thing and its all drab shadowy plastic you're going to have light it up and risk melting something.
Hi Michael, I can definitely understand some of the points you mentioned... above all, for me it's exactly the same as you think: I want to stand in front of my diorama with my cup 😊 and enjoy the view of the cantina, as soon as all the figures one day have been produced. (Of course, I'll be happy before that.) Because I'm absolutely sure of one thing: Hasbro has also pushed the Cantina to bring more and more figures into the market... because if in the next few months (years) … approx if 15,000 people buy all the figures again, that would be - let's say - 20 new figures for $20 each... a nice $6,000,000. And money is money. I think the Cantina is an absolute cult, more so than for example, Echo Base... but of course, it needs the figures... which Hasbro will 100% deliver. As for the band, I just watched the sequence again... they're not standing on a stage, at least you can't see it... so I almost suspect, that they're actually standing in one of those round, hollowed-out sitting areas, although this would basically make no sense… but ultimately it's not that important. By the way, the bar in the movie actually seems to be exactly the same size as Hasbro made it... You can see it quite clearly at one point in the movie - so Hasbro did a great job with the deluxe version. I thought about joining or not and decided to buy a cantina almost at the last minute. I guess, that a lot of people decided to buy towards the end, because it was questionable for a long time, whether the Haslab would be successful. And how it was!!!In the end, just one extra figure didn‘t made it! So, this is a very good starter set. I think, that many of those, who thought about buying or not ended up buying it. And Michael... did you still join in at the end or did you actually not order a cantina? I love your videos for years… You have always a clear opinion and don't follow anyone's advice! Keep it up!
I WAS BORN IN 1977 AND STAR WARS means a large part of my life, because of Return of the Jedi and Robotech I became an amateur writer. However, I'm not stupid, I'm not going to fall into Hasbro's damn game of emotional blackmail with their haslabs. I am going to use my knowledge of model trains and with only $200 I can make the same structure, with the same 3D printed accessories and even electrical installation with lights and a horn so that the musicians can play "like a novel" by Los Acosta
Honestly a mos eisely spacetown playset would have made more sense for display or recreation of showdowns like in the mandalorian or something but that's just me 😁👌
My theory on the cantina fixation is simply that it's a product that supports a lot of complimentary products. There's so many figures that have been made and remade that it's almost something people will invest in because of the sunk cost fallacy of how much they've paid for the random cantina aliens. I personally don't have the space or desire to get one, but I can see this going well for them. Certainly better than the Rancor or Reva lightsaber. I can at least see the logic and market who would want it.
Man, the Vintage Collection is in a real tight spot right now. Most of the releases are reissues and remakes of OT characters we already have oodles of figures of, any rare new media character is from 2 years ago at least, and there’s no new reveals for vintage Acolyte figures yet. Now they’re gonna focus even more on the OT, despite the fact that next year is the 20th anniversary of Ep III and fans will be anticipating new releases and updates of characters from that movie
I might consider it if it was a bit less costly, just so I could put the Emperor behind the bar serving Joker, Voldemort, and Cobra Comander with Thanos going into the restroom carrying a plunger.
You're right on the money. And I believe that's EXACTLY what it's meant to be. This *isn't* available at retail. And while I still think there's a lot of fun value here for kids, it's FOR the hardcore collectors who have been in this for years. But if you think Hasbro won't still capitalize on it and do reissues and resculpts to help fill it out, you're crazy. There's a whole campaign supporting this haslab into 2025. Yes, it is overpriced. But knowing their focus group and trying to get as much money as they can while we're still relevant and actively buying, it makes some sense. This is being sold as the ultimate centerpiece capstone of decades of collecting and a premium product. So using the old Sideshow logic, premium product equals premium price. It's that much because it CAN be. No one is happy about the cost, but by now it's almost expected and if you want it you'll pay it.
My guess is they had overstock of beige plastic pellets for injection moulding, and had to use that up. Would make sense why it’s such a large beige playset, with very little colour variation on other parts of it. Always look to the company budget to resolve your mysteries of the toys.
Last time he tried to upload an email file to youtube, youtube replied to him saying, "You must be taking suggestions from idiots like _gijigsaw4077."_
I had a conversation with my Father when the cantina went up, he collected SW from POTF2 till 2009 Legacy Collection. Had every figure except con exclusives and vehicles. He told me if a backer hasn't collected from POTF2 to TVC, they will spend more money populating that Cantina than on the Cantina itself because those figures are going to skyrocket. It's not worth it if you don't have everything.
THAT! THANK YOU!
Michael, keep up the great videos. You tell it like it is, and that’s what I like most about your channel.
Sure, but I think much like the sail barge the primary target for this is probably the niche group that does have all the figures and are just looking for a way to display them.
These things are targeted at the hardest of the hardcore collectors.
I have close enough to everything to populate the cantina but I won't be getting it. I have a custom cantina and I'm done with collecting anyway. But I can understand the excitement for collectors looking forward to getting this set.
I don't have them all whatsoever and I am backing it.
I’m surprised you don’t feel more strongly about the cantina. As you said, it’s not an “action environment” in terms of people killing each other (mostly), but it is one of the most famous scenes in Star Wars, and one of the most well-known scenes in films in general. Even folks who don’t know Star Wars too well are aware of it. It was that moment during the original film where we see the Star Wars galaxy is far richer than just humans, robots, and masked tuskens and Jawas. A bunch of random, crazy looking aliens standing around drinking and getting into fights is what the scene is loved for, and which translates well into a great display and conversation piece.
The modularity is ideal in terms of making it work for your display space. I’d also expect they’ll support it with more cantina characters and reissues next year around the time the cantina comes out.
There was no stage for the band. This was done in reshoots in LA. They were filmed in a regular alcove like many of the other aliens, and they do fit as demonstrated in today’s Pulse upload.
At the end of the day, they have made many cantina characters over the nearly 30 years of the modern line, and it’s nice to finally give them a home. And it’s nice to finally have access to the Tonnika Sisters after all this time.
Very much agreed. Thank you!
The cantina has no action/play value. I feel I explained this quite clearly. But hey, keep wringing those hands at me. That'll work.
@@retroblasting This is like the first comment I’ve ever left on your channel. Not sure why you feel the need to be defensive. I’m not wringing my hands. Just calmly offering a respectful counterpoint. But if that’s not allowed I guess I’ll move on. Oh well.
Just because you explain something clearly you believe to be true doesn’t make you right. I mean, I would argue more action happens in the cantina than on Dagobah, which you noted would have made a better HasLab. 🤷♀️
@@VictoriasCantina he also completely missed the part about there not being a band stand in the cantina as it was originally designed and that they play in one of the alcoves. The Cantina scene is arguably one of the most famous and deserves a place in TVC.
@@joelhordyk5564 YES
The Cantina is my favorite scene in Star Wars. Something about seeing the various different aliens always strikes me with wonder
Doesn't make for a great toy though. It's the literal "doll house" of Star Wars toys. "Let's play Happy Hour!" FFS...
@@retroblastingthat's the play. Why sell a set for 3 characters when you can sell a few tables for 500 and then sell 50 more figures to fill it. Hasbro act like they're on the verge of bankruptcy with all their resources and such an iconic brand.
@@retroblasting Finally Han and Chewie can enjoy there tea & crumpets.
@@retroblasting I mean, are we really calling it a toy at this point when it's half a grand?
@@retroblasting The cantina is always a fun place in the video games 😂
I wouldn’t have wanted this thing as a kid but as an adult let’s face it, we’re basically setting up dioramas for our collection, not playing with them.
As a diorama it’s a bit weird. Much like the Lego version (which at least makes an attempt at the outside) as a diorama, where do you put this thing? How do you display it? A key element of most dioramas is viewing angle. This is less diorama and more architectural model of the interior.
@@andrewtaylor940 it's modular, you display whatever way works for you
Yes, that was what i was thinking of writing in the comments as well.
Who in his/her older ages would really really play and not just put it up for display?
Most Toys nowaday are more for display than play-sets ... even Lego... wich is sad. I would have loved to play more with my son (that he has different interest is another matter).
There are a bazillion 3-3/4" figure lines that aren't Star Wars and I'm gonna fill my cantina with them. Indiana Jones, meet Captain Kirk... now kiss.
Marvel vs DC drunken brawl! 🤠
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yeah! add ET and Robbie the robot, and the one from lost in space!
that s what I d do here, add alien and predator, it s a space bar!
@@cyberfrank-bx2nv What ! no Twiki from Buck Rogers ?
Add the Muppets band as a fill in for that missing band.
Play value... I mean, if a person wants to have their figures milling about in Castle Grayskull, Terrordrome, USS Flagg, Sewer Lair, etc. Who's going to stop them? If you wanna have bar fights, a droid uprising, alien orgies, pony invasion, or a Kylie Minogue concert in your cantina, go for it.
If a kid can take a blanket and turn it into a mountain fortress getting invaded by ninjas, you can use your imagination to come up with a play scenario for anything.
Blanket mountain for the win! Yo Joe!
If I was Rich... and I had a on going Star wars game.. I'd get this.. every Rpg needs a bar set
Pony invasion ftw.
Kylie Minogue concert is the correct answer
Some people don’t have the imagination for this stuff, instead complaining about “lack of accessories.” FWIW I did the blanket mountain thing too
Speaking of jabbas palace, I’m printing a massive two floor jabbas palace made by Luke Massassi, with a rancor pit, droid chamber, and throne room. As you say, the fans are doing the best work.
I dunno, the cantina scene with space aliens hanging out to get drunk and discuss selling dope was a pretty classic scene in Star Wars.
C’mon Man! This is a work of art! Did you not see the amount of detail on this set? When we were kids we had the plastic piece with the cardboard background and that was our cantina. This is what we always wanted. It’s not like anybody willing to spend that kind of money on this set doesn’t already have a tub or two filled with figures waiting to quench their thirst. Hell, Cobra Commander and Spock can join Han for a drink! This hobby is supposed to be fun, remember?
"It's a bar/restaurant." Just imagining Han and Chewie ordering mozzarella sticks
Han will say let's split the check but we know Chewie will end up paying with Han saying "I'll get next time." He never gets next time.
"It's a good time for the great taste of McWuher's!"
"Space Mozzarella Sticks!"
Deep Freid Tree Worms..
BDubs in Space
It's a display piece. If you have the figures of all the (dozens of) cantina aliens (and realistically, most people who would be buying this probably do), it gives you a way to display them in context.
As for the band, in the movie, they were just shot in one of the alcoves, so the playset allows they to be displayed exactly how they were in the film. There is no "stage" in the actual set.
Realistically, I think the fact that they can produce the entire locale more or less to scale probably helps.
Explain how you suitably DISPLAY a four-walled building with enclosed alcoves and crowds of figures in a way where you can see and enjoy it passively.
@@retroblasting On a table. It's also modular so you can display it in sections if you choose.
That said I personally think the "base" offering is probably better suited for display.
@@retroblasting two shelves, they posted another video about it today.
@@Tim85-y2q You can also take the walls off the alcoves, so you can look through them instead of looking at the back of the walls.
1. I would agree that this doesn’t necessarily have a lot of action/play value as a “play set”. However, I don’t need it to. I’m not going to play with it, because I’m not ten anymore. I’m just going to be using it as a diorama. Which is probably what most adult collectors will be doing, and it is clearly aimed at adult collectors. I would also argue there is enough action value just as a diorama. This is after all where Obi Wan cuts off Ponda Baba’s arm, and where Han kills Greedo because he shot first. There are plenty of scenes to put on display
2. I have been collecting the aliens that populate this cantina for years. I’m thrilled to have a display to put them in.
3. I’m glad they didn’t include the cantina band! They just released a boxed set of the whole Cantina Band a year ago. I bought it then. I don’t want figure slots wasted on something already available; something I have anyway.
4. The band stand. This one I don’t blame people for not understanding, but they did include the bandstand. Sort of. The original film set of the cantina did not have the band. All those scenes were shot without them. You can tell when you watch the movie. They aren’t in a single wide shot, nowhere in the background. This is because the band was conceived of later and shot later by themselves in one of the alcoves from the cantina film set . This is also why in shots of the band, you can’t see anybody but the band. I think Hasbro wanted to be faithful to the original film set so you can set it up with all the alcoves full of furniture and patrons, or if you really want the band you can just remove the furniture from one of the alcoves and put the band in it and voila!
Disagree. The Cantina was the only dioramma display that I had back in the day when I used to collect. It was great to stick all kinds of figures in there from other lines. It was sort of an cross-dimensional watering hole. It is the one place you can stick just about any figure and it works. It's like mini Rotgut station.
Anyone could show up at the cantina, except maybe ewoks. It was where anyone could meet coming or going; Rebels, Imperials, bounty hunters, jawas, Jabba's henchmen, etc... You couldn't put just anyone at Echo Base or on the Death Star.
The original cantina was my first Star Wars toy. I liked having my figures stand around in it. In fact, if I still had it, my remaining figures would be displayed it. After all, even action figures need a drink now and then.
The cantina is one of the most iconic scenes in all of Star Wars. As you said, the collectors are getting old. Most of them probably don't sit around and actually play with the figures, they display them. This is going to be a great way to display them. Especially for those who love the cantina scene and world building alien. I am looking forward to this.
Iconic in the film. As a toy, it blows.
I would have loved this as a kid. But, I'm 52 now, and I don't want a toy to play with. I want something to display the cantina characters I have been collecting over the last 45 years.
@@stevedunford6089 And that's who this is aimed at, longtime fans with disposable income who want something they've been missing. I don't expect a lot of people who don't already have the alien figures will buy it. Though, with a few exceptions, a lot of them can be found cheaply online and at places that sell comics, collectibles, and "antiques." I'm 39, I'm not going to get on the floor and play with it (at least, not much), I want something to set on the shelf and display my figures. Without display environments, the figures are just going to be packed away in a bin.
These are adult collectables not toys. Toys are for kids and no kid pays the money that the Vintage Collection costs. These "playsets" from Hasbro are and have always been buildable dioramas for your figures
Looks like a great set! I ordered 2. One for me. One for my kids to play with. I will sell the extra set of Tonnika sisters.
Remember: Wuher and the Tonnikas are only available with this Haslab. They will be some of the rarest Star Wars figures ever and command top dollars on the aftermarket.
don't they have 3.75" figures?
When I saw Star Wars in the cinema in 1978 aged 5, my favourite location was the Cantina - we first meet Han Solo, he blasts Greedo, we first see a lightsaber in action. I loved my Greedo, Walrusman, Hammerhead and Snaggletooth figures. The Cantina has been the most requested large playset for years, certainly since HasLab became a thing. There are some major issues with this, i.e. the lack of an exterior, it looks so unfinished. But this has been my dream item for decades, so I'm in. Many 3.75" collectors are very happy to getting a Cantina, despite its issues.
The only reason I'm buying this cantina set is to recreate the Bea Arthur scene from the Star Wars Holiday Special.
This made me laugh 😄
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Aside from Jabba's Palace, the next placer with the biggest number of figures is the Cantina. That's why people like it, you can get a lot of characters together interacting and not just inside but also outside since they made the entrance areas. So you can put your Dewback there, Luke's Speeder, the Ronto, Sandtroopers, Jawas, droids etc and then all the aliens inside.
Same with Jabba's Palace, he has a ton of goons and denizens and you can do various scenes like Boushh with Chewbacca or Luke confronting Jabba.
Cloud City has one major sequence - The Carbon Freezing Chamber - which hasbro already did. That has a large amound of figures that can go in one space (Stormtroopers, Chewbacca, 3PO, Leia, Lando, Lobot, Bespin guards, Boba Fett, Darth Vader, Ugnaughts, carbonite block).
What are you going to do with a few corridor backdrops? There aren't Cloud City residents figures and they have only ever made two guards.
If they charge 499 for that, I would be scared to see what they would charge for Death Star playset remake or AT-AT remake
Hasbro is gonna gouge regardless, but I'd rather consider a gouged price on something dynamic than the Star Wars equivalent of a Red Lobster location.
@@retroblasting LMAO 🤣 😂
@@retroblasting I don't think the Red Lobster has as much class as the cantina....and, they went outta business.....thanks to Larry Fink.
The price is more to do with the figures
I had actually stopped collecting modern Star Wars a while ago, but this is the one item that has brought me back in for one last hurrah.
For me, there was something fun about collecting Cantina aliens. It’s just such a diverse scene that for me it makes for a very interesting display piece. I also have every single alien already, so in a way the pre-investment for this is already taken care of.
I get that this isn’t for everyone, but I’m pretty stoked about this and hope that it gets made.
"Over 100 cups included."
I remember when my mother used to complain about having to attend friends' Tupperware parties. Who knew drinkware would be so enticing to Star Wars fans.
We're going to sell you a $500 empty warehouse (with ceilings over every alcove, so even if you look down on it, you can't see in). You're going to have to provide the no-longer-manufactured, hard-to-find inventory to stock it.
It’s iconic. It allows you to display an extraordinary amount of figures. It includes grail figures collectors have wanted for decades. The argument that these are obscure figures is ridiculous as the entire toy line thrived on background characters since the 70’s. Mando was created by people wanting to bring obscure toys to life. Also, “it’s just a bar.”? Then advocating for a swamp where almost no one goes? Great playset.
I, for one, at this point in my life am over "playability." All of this stuff I display and the modularity allows you to display this several different ways. I'm excited about it.
$500 for 3.75 playset for the cantina that people are making themselves with foam and styrene. And today, fans can 3d print it. Sisters figures…ok. But no blue snaggeltooth (which I’m sure they will announce as a 4th tier when they can’t meet their fundraising goal).
They will repack the sisters they spent the money on the tooling
It seems on pace to at least meet the base goal as of now.
@@georgeaitken2719 Maybe not. what we've seen so far are likely test-shots, not tooled figures. The tooling likely won't be made until the goal is hit. Plus, they have a commercial incentive to keep this stuff exclusive to drive FOMO among collectors.
A blue snaggletooth would have been awesome.
you buy shoes when you could fashion a pair from used tires and some paracord.
I feel like they need to change the terms for these kinds of items. This is just a diorama for adult collectors to display their figures on a display shelf. No kid is ever going to use it as a playset. My son was kinda into Star Wars on and off, mostly collected the Galaxy squadron ships. But man, it’s sad toy shopping these days. He goes to target to wander almost empty isles when I remember going to toys r us and there were wall to wall toys everywhere.
Well yeah, most of the toys were grabbed either A. before they even hit the shelves because the employees called their buddy who has an Ebay store, or else they got rifled through two minutes after the store opened by the same guy who's there to snap up everything for either his Ebay store, or his table at the local flea market. It is virtually impossible to see anything desirable at Wal-Mart/Target/etc. these days if you just happen to stop by. I say "these days", as though this hasn't been the case for twenty plus years I've collected, my bad. Sorry about that. These days I just preorder all my toys on BBTS or Amazon. I'm done looking through all the pegwarmers hoping to find something cool.
Nobody ever said this was a toy, who pays $500 for a kids toy?
12:53 "yes, it has a lot of pieces! Mostly cups." Is one of the most telling points you could've made. That should be the tagline in your Manchild news next month lol.
Hey! So the reason the cantina band wasn't included is because there was actually never a place for the band on the original set where the cantina scene was filmed. It was an insert shot picked up in the united states in a separate studio. The only time the cantina band has appeared on a stage was in the Star Wars Holiday Special. Adding some sort of band stand would have required changing the layout of the Cantina seen in the film, and film accuracy is always the goal, espcially with Haslabs.
And that's where the toy company needs to pick up the pieces and MAKE IT WORK.
@@retroblasting I agree it would be very nice to have a place for the band. I think given the modular design of the playset, the best case scenario would have been to add a stage as a modular piece that can be swapped out for one of the alcoves.
I own the cardboard cantina ,its already completely overcrowded ,,,
so i will go 4 the HASLAB bc i wanted this bar since a child
The problem is- if it gets fully funded with all stretch goals met and you want to buy the exclusive figures ONLY, by the time you get them on the secondary market it’s probably going to cost more than if you just bought the whole thing in the first place.
STILL...WHY NO REAL RETRO STYLE CLOUD CITY PLAYSET?! You are SO right! WHY WON'T THEY DO IT!?
There's a massive 4-foot Death Star playset with functioning pieces, LED's and 12 areas from the film (the tractor beam even lights up and there's an electric trash compactor, apparently), coming from Hasbro at some point. I've seen the plans and it looks terrific. Unfortunately, like this, it'll be another crowdfunding piece, though and I just refuse to take part in a crowdfunding effort from a company that made $5 BILLION last year. Or at least I'm telling myself that. There's principle and then there's....a 4 foot Death Star playset. lol It'll be a moral struggle. lol
We have the Carbon Freezing Chamber already
@@ChildOfTheWilderness Kind of, I suppose. They can do better.
I can recall seeing collectors asking for a cantina playset ever since I first started collecting SW myself as a young whippersnapper back around the time _Revenge of the Sith_ hit theatres. I don't understand it myself, but it seems like the cantina has always been and always will be a fixture in the minds of many OT fans (maybe because it was a big "wham" moment with the plethora of alien creatures suddenly on display in a film that had up until that point been fairly retrained in its use of non-human characters), and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that, any more than people wanting Jabba's sail barge.
At least I already have all the figures to fullfil the Cantina
I always thought Obi-Wan's home would've been an interesting little companion playset to Yoda's hut. Could have a little Leia "projection effect", the trunk with the lightsaber, maybe even a droid maintenance area in back where you can park the Landspeeder and give Threepio a hot oil bath?
Yeah same
A little trunk with cool accessories too
There’s no stage for the band because there was no stage for the band on the set. They were added in pickups shoots. There also was no “stage” for the pickup shots they’re in anyways, they just play in one of the alcoves
Wait, are you suggesting that this was accurately designed based on the original set?
I feel the same about Haslabs. Should not be a thing in the first place, but if they’re going to do it, it should be “dream projects.” This has nothing on the Sail Barge.
It's an excuse for Hasbro to soft launch anything remotely risky and charge a bomb in the process. It's so grim.
@@Henez89 And what's sad is that the only one really successful are the ones relating around Transformers. And those are the only ones they're really putting any real effort into instead of making glorified dollhouses like with Star Wars.
And even then you have Unicron, who was a complete waste of money and space and SHOULD have bombed from the word go because of how ill-conceived he was. Size and posability alone do not make a good toy, and it's why I never upgraded past my Armada version.
I just need a place to put my $59 Cantina Band
How else would they get this out there? It would never sell enough commercially to justify the tooling costs
When I first saw the Star Wars parody short 'Hardware Wars' as a kid in '79, the moment the Obi Won character warns them of the wretched scum and villainy within and the gang then enter this Mos Esley bar, and it's a perfect time capsule of the seedest late 70s watering hole, sh*tbox dive of hippies, burnouts and shiftless layabouts put to film, even my 8 year old self laughed instantly rolling on the ground. I remember getting a huge unintentional laugh from the family when asked what was so funny about that scene and I said, 'Because, they said be careful of that place cause all the scary people, and it looks just like the place dad aiways goes to to see his friends.'
Star Wars Catina set piece: A Small Mint.
Accidentally ratting out pops to mom and in-laws on Easter Sunday: priceless.
No Ackmena or Richard Pryor as an unlockable tier? None of my dollars!
"I know the devil when I see him!"
Only a Few know Who Akemena is.. or who played her.
They can do a pack with her.. her bar maid, Bouncer and Kreillmen
I'm glad they finally made a cantina I'm looking for :)
I’m getting it because I have always loved the eclectic nature of the Cantina. You can see an alien that looks like the Devil, wolf man, an insect, anything. Anything you could imagine would fit in there. It’s like an “alien carnival”, LOL. I’m not a purest. I will put Star Trek, fantasy, Joy Toy, etc., in the display. It’s not an essential part of the story, the kid in me just loves the idea! I do agree about LED lighting and including the band. I wish they would’ve done that. You watch, they’ll come out with a “Band set” (with characters and instruments) that will cost 150 bucks!😂😂😂
Love the channel and your in depth analysis of the topic, by the way!😀
“It’s a diorama at best”
Well yah dude. We’re like 35-50 yo’s. I wasn’t planning on playing with it. Damn thing is 500 so im definitely not tossing it to my 4yo either. They also chose Cantina w random figs because they know you’ll buy them as they’re not available in previous releases. Plus the music. I mean getting an arm lobbed off isn’t exactly boring either. It’s actually the most violent thing in the movie aside from Uncle Owen that is.
What's hilarious is that they didn't put the cantina in the disney parks but will charge you 500$ for the toy. What mismanagement all around for Disney Star Wars.
I’ve been to the Cantina a few times at Disneyland.
That ain't the real cantina.
@@retroblasting Nothing really happens? We see obi wan use his powers to protect Luke. We meet Han Solo and Chewy. Greedo gets shot. Han and Obi make the deal to hire Han that moves the story along.
@@retroblastingyeah its a catina from the Sequel Trilogy
Han shot first.
Who here heard the theme from Cheers in their head at some point in this video?
The Cantina is a great display piece (diorama) that you can populate many figures into for an accurate theatrical effect! It is much the same as Jabba’s Palace with all the alien denizens. It is not necessary “that not much happened” in the way of action, because this was the takeaway scene from A New Hope. Everyone in the late seventies was blown away by the cantina scene!!! Great point about the band though. Hopefully Hasbro will take your lead on offering alien 3-packs to populate this thing!
Some collectors want all of play sets no matter what some ppl love the cantina scene
I completely agree. While modern toys are not my concern, I don’t like seeing people get ripped off and if this thing gets backed, it will give Hasbro license to jack up all their prices, safe in the knowledge that there’ll be a line of people saying, “take my money, Hasbro”.
Which is something Michael pointed out awhile back with these haslab products. But still a valid point because it's happening.
The cantina has always been much more interesting then could city or the emperors's throne.It's full of cool looking aliens and bits and pieces that you can pose and move around and play with.
I sort of understand the complaint about the Cantina as not being prominent in the film. He does also mention the plethora of figures released from the cantina scene. I think most figure collectors have enough figures to fill it out.
Hey! Nothin really happened?! Greedo freaking died man! R.I.P. Insignificant bounty Hunter!😂
...Michael look, I love your channel, and I understand your desire to take down Hasbro, but your assessment that The Cantina is not a place of significance has me bewildered a bit.. The Cantina IS Star Wars!! I was five years old when I saw Star Wars in the theater. It had spectacular action, a very frightening big baddie, and some talking robots. We learned of the mysterious Force, met our Farmboy hero, and a crazy old wizard...BUT.. When our heroes arrived in the bar, and you see that first alien headshot, followed by a pan around the room to all these magnificently designed creatures, that’s when this galaxy BECAME a galaxy far, far way. I was only a child, but I was in absolute awe of what I was seeing. Everyone was. We met, for the first time, this wretched hive of scum & villainy..It was the first time we saw a lightsaber light up and do it’s thing!!! We met a cocky smuggler with a debt to pay, and watched him take out a bounty hunter BEFORE the bounty hunter took him out!! And those
who wish to back this project, like myself, have or will have most of these characters from the modern line to populate it with..( The secondary market on some of these characters will blow through the roof I’m sure.) The Cantina, with all it’s strange creatures & renegade characters is what Star Wars was built on, and this set is a dream come true!!
I love what laserpants said that if someone slightly bumps the playset those tiny cups are gonna get lost lol
Look at the USS Flagg. It was $109.99 in 1985 and that's $318.16 today. Nostalgia is mean sometimes.
My plan is to back this Haslab. I’ll fill it over time. No rush and I’m not paying crazy prices for figures that will get rereleased
the carboard version was perfect and still works for me.
So, I guess “This isn’t the playset you were looking for?”
with 25th anniversary of "The Phantom Menace", they could have made something for that.
Reactor room playset with Darth Maul bisecting ACTION !
Yeah, like a theater of disappointed Star Wars fans.
@@TrevorToonArt
You say this just after the re release of the phantom menace did great in theaters and at a time in which prequel fans are more vocal than ever about their love and appreciation for those films.
@@TrevorToonArtAre you sure that wasn't happening in 2015?
But thank god they didn’t, because i stG if it’s a Jar Jar anything!
No seriously, Anikans home with mom, or the parts strore arguing over credits. Maybe the market w Sebulba. Be cool.
12:56 the lights and droid detector are translucent so that you can put lights behind it.
One of, if not the most iconic scene/set/location in 1977 Star Wars. Man, you're sounding like a zoomer! 😂 and I thought you were one of us! 😏👌
Iconic in motion on film, yes. As a playset idea for ACTION figures, it is super static and dull.
Will look great on a shelf though. Maybe behind some glass?
I like it. I backed the deluxe set.
Based on your avatar, I am NOT surprised.
@retroblasting thank you. The Cantina is fantastic. We all have opinions if you don't like it. That is great. Have a fantastic day 😊😊 .
@@gerrystarchildhow dare you diverge from the one opinion that matters
@michaelwills1926 people have a tendency to follow others blindly instead of making their own decisions.
I just wish they included more cups.
hahaha
Bespin World could be made in quarters, four separate pie piece sets that when put together form a huge circular environment, that resembles the shape of Cloud City.
1. Guest Quarters/Dining Room
2. Dungeon/Torture Area
3. The Freeze Chamber
4. Luke/Vader Battle Area
I'll offer my two cents on why I plan on backing the Cantina: in the first movie, it's more than just a seedy dive bar where we meet Han and Chewie, and where Han shoots first(!) to show that he don't take no guff from a lizard... for the audience, it's the first real (and only) glimpse of the much wider universe that Star Wars exists in, in the first movie.
Here are all of these insanely different alien creatures from all corners of the galaxy just hanging out casually without any fuss or muss. It exemplifies the lived-in aspect of how old this universe has been around that thousands of aliens are so familiar with one another that they can dine and drink side-by-side. There's no shock at seeing a sentient bug, or a werewolf, or penis-head musicians...
As a kid, the cantina scene shows (show, don't tell, is the adage that great storytellers should adhere to) that it's a giant melting pot, where humans are just another bunch of aliens admist many -- and arguably, humans are the worst of the galaxy, given that they run the Empire! So there's a lot more to the significance of the Cantina that I feel like you're leaving out, as I think that's the real reason it's so iconic and people remember it so well.
I think they could have something more interesting but its an iconic location, Greedo is shot, Ben has a fight and we meet Chewie and Han. I mean its just as action packed as anywhere else in many respects and more iconic than a swamp.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a real hoth base or even an updated Ewok village
Everything has its time.
I don’t collect Star Wars but this set just looks incredible. I would populate it with Battlestar Galactica pilots and GI Joes. I would set up the Converters pinball and roulette robots. Forget the Cantina band, I’d have Cold Slither rocking out. This set looks like a super fun way to display a ton of figures.
This is a long way from that freeze chamber on stilts.
Nothing happens? When it was just a cardboard backdrop a single table and a slice of bar it was the most action-packed playset we had. I mean, I get that you want your Cloud City playset. Me too. But, this playset has tons of playability. It is definitely not just a diorama. My son is excited to play with it when it shows up, and I'm excited to put everyone back in their place when he's done.
This is great, it’s Friday evening (here in the U.K.), it’s the beginning of the weekend, the Euro finals start tonight. I’ve got my Heineken in hand, and it’s a new retroblasting video too. Life’s great!
I quite like the choice of environment. I'm displaying the figures, not playing with them. That being said, I'm not paying this much for this playset at that price level. It's twice the price it should be. Maybe $300 for the deluxe version with the included figures, but $500 is extreme. It's a few plastic walls with some detailed accessories.
$500 for the diorama, and probably another $500 to track down all the long OOP figures needed to complete the scene. So generous of them!
I'm imagining getting all those figures will end up being closer to $1,000.
@@retroblasting with some patience you will find them all for a great price. Bought pons limbic , Dr. Evazan, and 2x Trinto Duaba+ Dice Ibegon all moc for 10euro a piece this year.
Damn, for that price you could get like 3 figures of the last 17.
1500 to 2000.
Some of them figures are from 95.. and have oboy got a one and done relase..
They're all Dioramas, so was the Sail Barge and so is the Ghost.
Hasbro might as well include two exclusive aliens in the Cantina playset, two middle aged and overweight Rodians named Memba Dis and Memba Dat.
And the bounty hunter with the pink vizor, named Nosta L Gia.
Ordering a nice cup of member-berries
@@godofzombi does he also come with retroblasters?
The cantina was not my first choice, and I'm not a hasbro shill, but I understand this from a business perspective. They can make new figures and reissue older ones, like the Khetanna. Michael is wrong on this one.
I have just started rebuilding my POTF2 collection, since I still have the vehicles from when I was a teenager and, thanks to that “Last 17” bullshit, I’ve pretty much given up hope on rebuilding the vintage Kenner collection I used to have as a small child. I’m quite positive I can put together a cantina display using only toys from the POTF2 line, and it would not only be more satisfying, but also SO MUCH CHEAPER!
I agree this is just a diorama. But it is a classic setting. Most of my early childhood memories for A New Hope come from this scene.
Doesn't mean it makes for a good action figure environment. Just because it's "nostalgic" doesn't mean it's dynamic.
Indeed, point taken.
I think it's a cool playset. As a kid and if we go back to the original Star Wars, we were amazed of all the types of alien characters we got to see. I agree, it's dedicated to 40 o 50 year old star wars fans like me but I would love to add some other creatures and have it displayed on a table. I'm cool about that.
While this is way too expensive for my tastes, I know folks who have a soft spot for the cantina. Some people have gone to the effort to 3D print their own so they can have a cool place to display their iconic cantina aliens. Hell, my favorite character is a two second cantina critter (Kabe). I personally am happy with my cardboard POTF cantina.
Next HasLab Star Wars project will be the Phantom Menace Senate scene where they were all discussing the laws of the Republic! LoL
You said it perfectly. This HasLab Cantina is a diorama, not a playset.
Maybe I’m crazy but my first guess seeing this is that they looked at the expensive UCS Lego set of the cantina and that was what made them decide it was a good and profitable location to choose for this.
Difference is the lego set has about 25 figures of all the aliens in the cantina, With all the main named characters too. This has none of that and lacks even a stage for the band, arguably the most iconic part of the while cantina sequence of a new hope.
You know they did. The lay out alone.
He'll I'd be surpised if we didn't get a fallow up where they off the outside of the building.
@@diablo_wayne Absolutely right. The Lego set works because it’s a complete package. Not to mention Lego have already given more interesting vehicles and locations high price point treatment several times over before they went to what is effectively just a big tan bar.
I'm 52, and gonna say that this is a hot take. Some fans' definitely want this set. Is it top of my list? No. But it's ANH. See nostalgia is a dangerous thing. I loved this scene as a kid cause I was a kid and the aliens were cool, mysterious and scary. So this set brings back strong memories. Just my pov.
I said it was atmospheric IN THE MOVIE. That doesn't mean it would make a great toy.
I think the idea is that most 3.75” StarWars collectors already have some sort of cantina shelf or collection over the years. This is meant to give you a better place to put them. I don’t think it’s really intended as a jump off point, it’s more of a “here you can finally put them in a full cantina.” I’m not even a hardcore TVC collector and I have always had a cantina alien display of some kind.
I'd buy one if i had the money. I'd just populate it with different characters, Star Wars, Star Trek, Battle Star Galactica and Reaction figures. They would all be getting smashed together XD
For this to interest me, at the very least, I would like the band included on a bandstand with recorded Cantina music at the touch of a button. Perhaps some kind of action lever built into the bandstand to make all the band members appear to sway side to side.
Still wouldn’t pay $500 bucks for it though.
I’ve been waiting for this one! 14 to 18 dollars for a 3.75 figure that at best is worth 6 dollars. Darn right Hasbro is charging way too much for this stuff.
500 USD?
Do they think
that we own a moisture farm or something?
No they exepcted us to go out and Rob banks and Mug people for that 500 .
I think what made the setting memorable and iconic was the lighting. Its an adult atmosphere, a rough setting. You get the thing and its all drab shadowy plastic you're going to have light it up and risk melting something.
Hi Michael, I can definitely understand some of the points you mentioned... above all, for me it's exactly the same as you think: I want to stand in front of my diorama with my cup 😊 and enjoy the view of the cantina, as soon as all the figures one day have been produced. (Of course, I'll be happy before that.)
Because I'm absolutely sure of one thing: Hasbro has also pushed the Cantina to bring more and more figures into the market... because if in the next few months (years) … approx if 15,000 people buy all the figures again, that would be - let's say - 20 new figures for $20 each... a nice $6,000,000. And money is money.
I think the Cantina is an absolute cult, more so than for example, Echo Base... but of course, it needs the figures... which Hasbro will 100% deliver.
As for the band, I just watched the sequence again... they're not standing on a stage, at least you can't see it... so I almost suspect, that they're actually standing in one of those round, hollowed-out sitting areas, although this would basically make no sense… but ultimately it's not that important.
By the way, the bar in the movie actually seems to be exactly the same size as Hasbro made it... You can see it quite clearly at one point in the movie - so Hasbro did a great job with the deluxe version.
I thought about joining or not and decided to buy a cantina almost at the last minute. I guess, that a lot of people decided to buy towards the end, because it was questionable for a long time, whether the Haslab would be successful. And how it was!!!In the end, just one extra figure didn‘t made it! So, this is a very good starter set. I think, that many of those, who thought about buying or not ended up buying it. And Michael... did you still join in at the end or did you actually not order a cantina?
I love your videos for years… You have always a clear opinion and don't follow anyone's advice! Keep it up!
Its another BIG (movie staring Tom Hanks) moment. "What is so exciting about a robot that turns into a building?"
I love the giant lego cantina set, that comes with a lot more figures, droids and outside stuff 😝
I WAS BORN IN 1977 AND STAR WARS means a large part of my life, because of Return of the Jedi and Robotech I became an amateur writer.
However, I'm not stupid, I'm not going to fall into Hasbro's damn game of emotional blackmail with their haslabs. I am going to use my knowledge of model trains and with only $200 I can make the same structure, with the same 3D printed accessories and even electrical installation with lights and a horn so that the musicians can play "like a novel" by Los Acosta
@@machineman6498 Thanks! I hope start before ends this year
They should have gone back and look at your video regarding Cloud City and build their own version of the setting
$500 for beige plastic is probably how my mom sees all action figures.
Honestly a mos eisely spacetown playset would have made more sense for display or recreation of showdowns like in the mandalorian or something but that's just me 😁👌
My theory on the cantina fixation is simply that it's a product that supports a lot of complimentary products. There's so many figures that have been made and remade that it's almost something people will invest in because of the sunk cost fallacy of how much they've paid for the random cantina aliens. I personally don't have the space or desire to get one, but I can see this going well for them. Certainly better than the Rancor or Reva lightsaber. I can at least see the logic and market who would want it.
Man, the Vintage Collection is in a real tight spot right now. Most of the releases are reissues and remakes of OT characters we already have oodles of figures of, any rare new media character is from 2 years ago at least, and there’s no new reveals for vintage Acolyte figures yet. Now they’re gonna focus even more on the OT, despite the fact that next year is the 20th anniversary of Ep III and fans will be anticipating new releases and updates of characters from that movie
I might consider it if it was a bit less costly, just so I could put the Emperor behind the bar serving Joker, Voldemort, and Cobra Comander with Thanos going into the restroom carrying a plunger.
You're right on the money. And I believe that's EXACTLY what it's meant to be. This *isn't* available at retail. And while I still think there's a lot of fun value here for kids, it's FOR the hardcore collectors who have been in this for years. But if you think Hasbro won't still capitalize on it and do reissues and resculpts to help fill it out, you're crazy. There's a whole campaign supporting this haslab into 2025. Yes, it is overpriced. But knowing their focus group and trying to get as much money as they can while we're still relevant and actively buying, it makes some sense. This is being sold as the ultimate centerpiece capstone of decades of collecting and a premium product. So using the old Sideshow logic, premium product equals premium price. It's that much because it CAN be. No one is happy about the cost, but by now it's almost expected and if you want it you'll pay it.
people are buying two just to get the sisters in and out of the package
My guess is they had overstock of beige plastic pellets for injection moulding, and had to use that up. Would make sense why it’s such a large beige playset, with very little colour variation on other parts of it. Always look to the company budget to resolve your mysteries of the toys.
The docking bay where the Millenium Falcon lands and Ben and Vader fight would have far more "play" value. If you were going that way.
This could have been an email.
Last time he tried to upload an email file to youtube, youtube replied to him saying, "You must be taking suggestions from idiots like _gijigsaw4077."_
@@timothyward8695 good one. that's funny!