THe problem I see with the endings is that The Dalish deserve their own land, the Howes deserve punishment (I thought until meeting Nathaniel), the elves of the alienage deserve their place in Ferelden, the dwarves need help against the darkspawn and the Cirkle should have gotten their independence.
The respective boons for the Dalish elves and the lands of Arl Howe (Amaranthine) are granted anyway (no matter origins hero) so... only left choose between city elves, dwarf (commoner or noble) and mage. And i be curious if the Heroine of Ferelden (already Cousland) can be queen, Teyrna of Gwaren and Arlessa of Amaranthine... that would be interesting. More details in DAO Wiki :P
But that's part of what makes DAO great... No easy or perfect solutions, just like the Dwarf King choice (one being a tyrannical progressist, the other a benevolent convervative). I think that's a breath of fresh air when it comes to choice-based RPG, where you usually can solve every single world problem single-handedly.
cybercybex Right but I thought even in that case Anora is the one who actually gives you a boon since Alistair is still pissy at you for sparing Loghain.
@@astralaris8712 Not exactly, he's still a weak traditionalist ruler who can't keep the assembly in line, unless you give him the Anvil of the void. But if you do that, he turns into a tyrant, sends golems to dusttown and have them crush it, basically genociding the casteless. Bhelen on the other hand, he's a massive douche/asshole, but what he does ultimately is for the good of the Dwarves as a whole, but giving him the anvil has him give Branka too many people taht she finds herself in the same position as Caridin did.
FilosofiadiCazzeggio Dana has managed to use the toolset to restore cut content It's amazing. I hope they bring out a Mod that allows this to happen as I have to console command Loghain after the Landsmeet.
As a fully aware Grey Warden i do believe that the best option is: Be a dwarf - that way help will be sent to the dwarves to battle the darkspawn at the end Make Hardened Alistair king with Anora, make Loghain warden, Die at the end or sacrofice Loghain - Do not let an Old God survive, he may cause problems in future, maybe even another Blight With Warden Commander kill the Architect, he also may be causing many problems, making darkspawn sane, more organised, more tactical, it's dangeorous. Second game: nothing freackin matters, but seriously, besides Mage-Templar thing this game has nothing to offer Inqusition: Sacrofice Hawke, it doesn't matter who is the Warden commander, he needs to live and get the Wardens together
If you're queen yourself, you can imagine making whatever changes you like with regards to the alienage, the Dalish, mages, helping the dwarves, etc. With the Architect I feel the best decision (which isn't offered unfortunately) is to negotiate some sort of agreement where he can continue to free the Darkspawn to stop future blights on certain conditions, like staying away from the surface and, most importantly, no broodmothers so the Darkspawn population can't replenish. That might sound like an impossible demand but I doubt the Darkspawn have a reproductive drive (given they don't "reproduce" anyway; they're like workers in an insect colony) so I'm willing to believe it's possible. And if an agreement really is impossible, yes I agree killing him is better than letting him do whatever he wants.
Robert R you also know that peace with the darkspawn is nonexistent if you know how they reproduce yes by raping and making the women eat their kind flesh and vomit in them
@@wolfbatson7668 I know but darkspawn aren't animals so I'm not certain they'd have a reproductive drive. If they don't, they may be willing to negotiate a situation where they don't reproduce at all (especially if they can't die of natural causes) in exchange for various concessions. If they insist on propagating then obviously peace isn't possible and the living need to keep fighting them. But it's worth a shot.
All nice with the Dwarf origin petition until you realize in the epilogue that if you choose Harrowmont, is all for nothing. The idiot doesn't acept military aid from the surface because of "Dwarf traditions". Screw that!
Considering what happens when a Chantry is opened in Orzammar it's probably a good idea since the Dwarves would choose extinction over losing their beliefs. Letting in even military aid opens the chance for outside influence to invade your home.
@@leoncoben6983 So... screw our race? Let's go extint before letting humans help us? There were only 2 cities left before the Blight. What good has tradition do for them so far? They have a good chunk of their available fighting force doing nothing because they are "branded". Bhelen at least let castless fight and accepted human help for the good of the kingdom.
@@alejandroyava If aliens were invading Earth and the options were to die or let China take over the world I'd choose death happily. I'd pray for human extinction before letting that country ever expand any further.
@@leoncoben6983 They are not asking to let China take over the world! They are only asking to let their army enter the other countries to fight the aliens! And Alistair is not the kind of king that would let his army to take over. In fact, it would be good for more collaboration between the races, but they wouldn't loose their entire culture in the process!
@@alejandroyava To the dwarves the outside world is China. They have zero interaction with the surfacers and as such zero trust. I agree with Bhelen allowing and accepting Ferelden's help but I disagree with how he does it with no restrictions. Were I a ruler I'd be very weary of Alistair not out of any ill will but just because other rulers can't and shouldn't be trusted at face appearance. Even if Alistair was 100% proven to not have any bad intentions he can't guarantee that other nations could and would send spies to infiltrate his ranks to get a better understand of the Deep Roads. Carta kill for Deep Road entrances. Think what would happen if Tevinter had scores of ins and outs around the whole world or the Qunari. Look how much damage they almost did with the mirrors. So much more than just culture is at risk letting outsiders just romp whenever they please underground.
Dana how did you fix the recognition of the free circle boon? The game only recognises it if Anora is the one to grant it. Also, is there a dialogue fixpack to restore the cut content? I didn't find anything of the sort in DA Nexus.
HOW DID YOU DID IT? If I pardoned Loghain and made Alistair marry Anora anyway, she is the one that makes the speech. Yet, Loghain is alive and Alistair greets you. How?
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THe problem I see with the endings is that The Dalish deserve their own land, the Howes deserve punishment (I thought until meeting Nathaniel), the elves of the alienage deserve their place in Ferelden, the dwarves need help against the darkspawn and the Cirkle should have gotten their independence.
+Samini the B So basically your problem is that you can't get all the race-associated boons, just one?
Yeah, a little. But how would it even be possible to achieve all. I understand why but it would have been nice if all was acheived ^^
The respective boons for the Dalish elves and the lands of Arl Howe (Amaranthine) are granted anyway (no matter origins hero) so... only left choose between city elves, dwarf (commoner or noble) and mage.
And i be curious if the Heroine of Ferelden (already Cousland) can be queen, Teyrna of Gwaren and Arlessa of Amaranthine... that would be interesting.
More details in DAO Wiki :P
Be Queen and do it all yourself!
But that's part of what makes DAO great... No easy or perfect solutions, just like the Dwarf King choice (one being a tyrannical progressist, the other a benevolent convervative).
I think that's a breath of fresh air when it comes to choice-based RPG, where you usually can solve every single world problem single-handedly.
Hawke-word
Time Stamps:
0:57 Mage Origin
2:03 Human Noble Origin
3:33 Dalish Elf Origin
5:06 City Elf Origin
6:09 Noble Dwarf
7:50 Commoner Dwarf (Same speech as the Noble Dwarf.)
Wait, how is Alistair giving these boons while Loghain is alive? That shouldn't be possible.
+HeliosKitty if alistair was hardened, loghain will replace him in the party if he was made king and you spared him.
cybercybex Right but I thought even in that case Anora is the one who actually gives you a boon since Alistair is still pissy at you for sparing Loghain.
+HeliosKitty Might be a mod. Seeing as how the Warden is wearing the Champion's clothes from Dragon Age II
Mods, this entire video is practically one big mod.
I'm surprised Rica can forgive you after you kill Bhelen
+ryanbelcher25rb He was an ass that's how. lol :D
Bhelen is a better king than Harrowmont.
Bhelen is a good King. He is my king, I don't care that he is a kinslayer.
When you play as Noble-Dwarf, Bhelen deserves to die more than any other one and Harrawmont is then the better King.
@@astralaris8712 Not exactly, he's still a weak traditionalist ruler who can't keep the assembly in line, unless you give him the Anvil of the void. But if you do that, he turns into a tyrant, sends golems to dusttown and have them crush it, basically genociding the casteless. Bhelen on the other hand, he's a massive douche/asshole, but what he does ultimately is for the good of the Dwarves as a whole, but giving him the anvil has him give Branka too many people taht she finds herself in the same position as Caridin did.
I thought that if Loghain survived and you married off Alistair to Anora and he survives, it is she who make the post corornation speech?
FilosofiadiCazzeggio Dana has managed to use the toolset to restore cut content It's amazing. I hope they bring out a Mod that allows this to happen as I have to console command Loghain after the Landsmeet.
What are the specs on your computer? It runs amazingly!!! I'd like get to a new computer like yours.
As a fully aware Grey Warden i do believe that the best option is:
Be a dwarf - that way help will be sent to the dwarves to battle the darkspawn at the end
Make Hardened Alistair king with Anora, make Loghain warden,
Die at the end or sacrofice Loghain - Do not let an Old God survive, he may cause problems in future, maybe even another Blight
With Warden Commander kill the Architect, he also may be causing many problems, making darkspawn sane, more organised, more tactical, it's dangeorous.
Second game: nothing freackin matters, but seriously, besides Mage-Templar thing this game has nothing to offer
Inqusition: Sacrofice Hawke, it doesn't matter who is the Warden commander, he needs to live and get the Wardens together
If you're queen yourself, you can imagine making whatever changes you like with regards to the alienage, the Dalish, mages, helping the dwarves, etc.
With the Architect I feel the best decision (which isn't offered unfortunately) is to negotiate some sort of agreement where he can continue to free the Darkspawn to stop future blights on certain conditions, like staying away from the surface and, most importantly, no broodmothers so the Darkspawn population can't replenish. That might sound like an impossible demand but I doubt the Darkspawn have a reproductive drive (given they don't "reproduce" anyway; they're like workers in an insect colony) so I'm willing to believe it's possible. And if an agreement really is impossible, yes I agree killing him is better than letting him do whatever he wants.
Robert R the architect is a magister the one who broke into the fade
@@wolfbatson7668 I'm aware of that.
Robert R you also know that peace with the darkspawn is nonexistent if you know how they reproduce yes by raping and making the women eat their kind flesh and vomit in them
@@wolfbatson7668 I know but darkspawn aren't animals so I'm not certain they'd have a reproductive drive. If they don't, they may be willing to negotiate a situation where they don't reproduce at all (especially if they can't die of natural causes) in exchange for various concessions.
If they insist on propagating then obviously peace isn't possible and the living need to keep fighting them. But it's worth a shot.
All nice with the Dwarf origin petition until you realize in the epilogue that if you choose Harrowmont, is all for nothing. The idiot doesn't acept military aid from the surface because of "Dwarf traditions". Screw that!
Considering what happens when a Chantry is opened in Orzammar it's probably a good idea since the Dwarves would choose extinction over losing their beliefs. Letting in even military aid opens the chance for outside influence to invade your home.
@@leoncoben6983 So... screw our race? Let's go extint before letting humans help us? There were only 2 cities left before the Blight. What good has tradition do for them so far? They have a good chunk of their available fighting force doing nothing because they are "branded". Bhelen at least let castless fight and accepted human help for the good of the kingdom.
@@alejandroyava If aliens were invading Earth and the options were to die or let China take over the world I'd choose death happily. I'd pray for human extinction before letting that country ever expand any further.
@@leoncoben6983 They are not asking to let China take over the world! They are only asking to let their army enter the other countries to fight the aliens! And Alistair is not the kind of king that would let his army to take over. In fact, it would be good for more collaboration between the races, but they wouldn't loose their entire culture in the process!
@@alejandroyava To the dwarves the outside world is China. They have zero interaction with the surfacers and as such zero trust. I agree with Bhelen allowing and accepting Ferelden's help but I disagree with how he does it with no restrictions. Were I a ruler I'd be very weary of Alistair not out of any ill will but just because other rulers can't and shouldn't be trusted at face appearance. Even if Alistair was 100% proven to not have any bad intentions he can't guarantee that other nations could and would send spies to infiltrate his ranks to get a better understand of the Deep Roads. Carta kill for Deep Road entrances. Think what would happen if Tevinter had scores of ins and outs around the whole world or the Qunari. Look how much damage they almost did with the mirrors. So much more than just culture is at risk letting outsiders just romp whenever they please underground.
Dana how did you fix the recognition of the free circle boon? The game only recognises it if Anora is the one to grant it. Also, is there a dialogue fixpack to restore the cut content? I didn't find anything of the sort in DA Nexus.
Емил Владимиров Are you still looking? Because I fixed it with a mod.
Jerry Moore Thanks but with the introduction of the DA Keep it doesn't really matter any more.
Yeah just thought you might want some dialogue. from the previous games.
I love the dalish ending
The Bioware want us to be dalish in the dragon age inquisition default the legend of ferelden is a dalish elf
What would happen if you helped bhelen as a dwarf noble, would you still be welcomed back?
Yes i recommend doing a dawrf noble run that sides with behlen its very interesting
How did you get those armors and weapons.
Mods
HOW DID YOU DID IT? If I pardoned Loghain and made Alistair marry Anora anyway, she is the one that makes the speech. Yet, Loghain is alive and Alistair greets you. How?
Most likely a mod.
post corona nation?
Let's get to that and soon.
Okay seriously, what is with dwarves and the sky? :/
+H240909 They live all their lives underground. Most never see the open sky ever. So it's scary for them lol
demonangel918 I get the but some things that are just weird. A dwarf sees the sky and he gets banished? What? I guess its pretty funny atleast
H240909
Lol it makes them interesting that they have such a view on those who leave to the surface
the sky is a lie
It's funny but it doesn't make any sense. If it were true, they'd be stuck to the roof constantly in Orzammar.
how u get ur dalish warden to look like that is it a mod or wat
how do you get that mark on your arm?
with possible paragonhood
Wtfs on gorims back