Lately this has become one of my favorite Pumpkins songs ever. Really hits my emotions hard in a way I can't describe. Not sad or happy just... intense.
Oceania is a masterpiece! Fans and critics that bash the more recent Pumpkins are just bandwagon/casual fans. The core audience like me gets what Corgan is doing. I'm not listening to songs like this one and going "OK if this doesn't sound or make me feel like Zero or Disarm did then it sucks" No. That is not a good way to judge it. Because its a different fucking song, a different feeling, different time and place. Its equivalent to me asking someone to behave as they did at a different time whether it be months years ago. To behave and be the same exact person is an impossibility. Some people that you knew then are dead now. Different people are in your day to day life and same with experiences. Music is a time capsule. If fans understood this fact maybe they'd enjoy the music more.
vinnykster Not really. Good music should just click with the listener... mostly all listeners right away. There shouldn't be a "I'm not sure about this" phase. I applaud Billy for trying new things and following his dream, but SP was king and died both in the 90s.
Why bother argue with people who don't like it? Who cares if someone else doesn't like it, really? Because you want to identify as a hardcore fan? Who cares if you consider yourself a hardcore BC fan or not? You do. So why not keep quiet and enjoy it? I know I've defied that "rule" by coming out to say this. I wouldn't waste my time or happiness stating what I like or don't' for the appeasement of another. You like what you like and I like what I like and it doesn't matter if someone likes something else. That's OK. We all like our stuff. If nobody wins, then what gets lost?
I really like this one. Oceania was the best album they've put out since the 90s, I'm glad to see Billy got back into a legit sound for the Smashing Pumpkins name.
This song is beautiful. Gives me goosebumps. I'm sad I couldn't even find this album on Google Play. It's so underrated!! Definitely my favorite album from Corgan.
@@LespaulStrat Quite welcome my friend. I have an acoustic cover attempt of Snail and 1979 here at my lil place if ya get bored and wanta see an old fart mangle a great song!
Zeitgeist, Teargarden, Glow/Superchrist, Monuments are all money albums right up there with 90's. It's a matter of listening to it with an open mind and without living in the past. I would take any of these more recent Pumpkin's song collections with me to a desert island.
My biggest problem with monuments is that it feels so disjointed and as if each song, while good in their own way, just doesn't have that lasting appeal and effect. One and all is definitely the best track and on its own, one of his better songs in a long time, but the rest of the album is a tad boring for my personal tastes.
I put zwan an the unreleased zwan as my fave an imo most closest to the oldschool material...it broke my heart when they broke up. Love this album an if all goes wrong dvd
It sounds like Billy finally found his muse from the Saimese Dream-Mellon Collie era again. This is a beautiful track and would fit nicely on either of those CD's. This song gives me the feeling of wistfully looking back on your youth in a video with all the happy, sad, and bittersweet emotions wash all over you at once, both wide eyed innocent and regretful at the same time...touching stuff.
That's why SP new stuff is great. It grows on the listener because it's not pop garbage. Corgan has a ton of things going on in his songs so it takes time for the listener to catch up to that.
I’ve been a pumpkins fan since ‘93 when my older played disarm for me on the top 9 at 9 when the radio used to be a thing. I’ve seen the pumpkins a number of times, Zwan and Billy solo. I went to his terrible poetry book signing and then the reading. The point is. This is my favourite album.
Its kind of hard to listen to this song because its incredibly overwhelming and beautiful it fills me with all sorts of different emotions sad, and happy. Its pretty phenomenal
Mother moon Mistress of the sun, say I got you, I got you Sister soul Lover of the tune, sing! I got you, I got you, I got you Floating away I thing I'll stay as refused Floating away I thing I'll stay blue-black Floating away I thing I'll change next to you Finding a way to make the loss seem new 'Cause you don't deserve me But I deserve you Mother moon Mistress of the sun, say I got you, I got you Sister soul Lover of the tune, sing! I got you I got you Mother moon Mistress of the sun, say I got you, I got you, oh I've got you I got you, I got you mother moon Floating away I thing I'll stay as refused Finding a way to make the loss seem now Floating away I thing I'll change next to you Finding a way to make the loss seem new 'Cause you don't deserve me But I deserve you Flies for the may queen But life for the prince If nobody wins Then what get's lost? If I've got you
I agree. I've listened to it continuously since it came out. Usually I tire of an album after about a month. Not this one. This one really delivers. It is Billy's White Album, IMHO.
I'd say in the 26 years I've listened to them, this is top ten one of my all time favorites. Love the composition and the use of synthesizers with guitars.
The Rolling Stones write their music collectively (mostly Richards and Jager), but they all contribute... Smashing Pumpkins music has always been written by Corgan; that's the difference.
TheAlibabatree James Iha did contribute a fair bit, and Jimmy Chamberlin wrote all of his own drum parts, which was part of what made the Pumpkins sound so unique.
This song takes you out into a place completely unknown due to its eccentricity with all the alien-wave-like-sounding noises and dynamic strumming. This explains how it can be seen as space rock; it really pulls you out there.
YAY!!!! my favourite band of years gone past hath resurrected themselves. You have made this 31 year old man very happy :). Perfect blend of shoegazey dream pop with splashes of psychedelia....awesome
This is a hugely underrated album by miles, if alternative hadn't been so commercialized I believe it had the potential to evolve into more like this, I've been a fan since day one and I say this album and current Pumpkin music is as good as their past, just matured for me. Thanks Billy and Pumpkins.
i always had faith in pumpkins sure the last album wasnt great but billy yet again proves hes still got i will always support pumpkins and will always love there music forever
The first 2 minutes and 10 seconds of this should be the culminating, cathartic ending scene of a JOHN HUGHES FILM... Listen to it with that lens and tell me I'm wrong!
Pumpkins fan from the beginning, and I think this (album) is as close to sounding like the OG Pumpkins as anything that Billy has attempted since the break up. Pinwheels is definitely a song I'd confidently throw into a Pumpkins mix. To me, it's not a song that would have felt "off" if it were somewhere on Mellon Collie. Certainly not as off as Cupid de Locke. Hehe...to be clear, I actually love Cupid de Locke. I appreciate it for the variety that it brought to the table, and I think Pinwheels would have fit right in.
I disagree, technically Billy wrote, and even recorded many SP bass and guitar tracks..and Jimmy rocked on the drums. Jimmy may be gone, but Billy has always been the driving force behind the Pumpkins. I feel the spirit is there it's just evolved like the Pumpkins always have.
To each their own I guess. It's a solid album but, I certainly wouldn't give it best of 2012. It is an opinion on both our parts certainly. :) I can't stop listening to the new Big Wreck album myself. It rawks!
That's Nicole Fiorentino singing. She's the bass player. Jeff Schroeder told Billy they shouldn't bring in any extra musicians, to keep it tight with just the 4 of them. I like the result. But wouldn't rule out any experimentation in the future...
I love this album. Haven't smiled so much listening to a Pumpkins/Corgan album since Mellon Collie.
Pumpkins. Helped me through life.
Im in a mayor depression by now, this song has enlighten me...
Facts!!!
2019.REDISCOVERED...CLOSER NOW TO HEART FELT.
Lately this has become one of my favorite Pumpkins songs ever. Really hits my emotions hard in a way I can't describe. Not sad or happy just... intense.
Agree, there is something about this song I can't quite place. I love the slightly de-tuned guitar melody, gives it a very 'Melon collie' attitude.
This song is incredible
uh... no, I'd say it's a pretty sad song. That inner pain has always been a staple of their writing.
Yeah. Great song.
@@dollofshadows1703 idk man I feel happy when I hear those synths. sounds happy to me
Oceania is a masterpiece! Fans and critics that bash the more recent Pumpkins are just bandwagon/casual fans. The core audience like me gets what Corgan is doing. I'm not listening to songs like this one and going "OK if this doesn't sound or make me feel like Zero or Disarm did then it sucks" No. That is not a good way to judge it. Because its a different fucking song, a different feeling, different time and place. Its equivalent to me asking someone to behave as they did at a different time whether it be months years ago. To behave and be the same exact person is an impossibility. Some people that you knew then are dead now. Different people are in your day to day life and same with experiences. Music is a time capsule. If fans understood this fact maybe they'd enjoy the music more.
I would also say this about any band or artist^^^^ Especially those with a big body of work
vinnykster Not really. Good music should just click with the listener... mostly all listeners right away. There shouldn't be a "I'm not sure about this" phase. I applaud Billy for trying new things and following his dream, but SP was king and died both in the 90s.
it has 72 on metacritic, most people liked it
Yes, this ALBUM is a masterpiece!
Why bother argue with people who don't like it? Who cares if someone else doesn't like it, really? Because you want to identify as a hardcore fan? Who cares if you consider yourself a hardcore BC fan or not? You do. So why not keep quiet and enjoy it? I know I've defied that "rule" by coming out to say this. I wouldn't waste my time or happiness stating what I like or don't' for the appeasement of another. You like what you like and I like what I like and it doesn't matter if someone likes something else. That's OK. We all like our stuff. If nobody wins, then what gets lost?
I really like this one. Oceania was the best album they've put out since the 90s, I'm glad to see Billy got back into a legit sound for the Smashing Pumpkins name.
This song makes me thing of a bittersweet memory that I can't fully recall...
That's exactly what 1979 does, and I was just a child when that released, so it isn't like high school memories or anything. Music is weird.
That Bittersweet Symphony of life, I got you. Snail was my special charm before I heard this, tough call now.
This song is beautiful. Gives me goosebumps. I'm sad I couldn't even find this album on Google Play. It's so underrated!! Definitely my favorite album from Corgan.
Oh yes, this one is special indeed! This one and Snail are my 2 favorites I'll never get enough of. Take care friend.
@@TheBlackSheepDiaries , Thank you for mentioning Snail, never heard before, great song.
@@LespaulStrat Quite welcome my friend. I have an acoustic cover attempt of Snail and 1979 here at my lil place if ya get bored and wanta see an old fart mangle a great song!
Such a vastly underrated song, there is so much going on here I love it
It’s really amazing!!
When the bass pivots, and the guitar lead comes shimmering in, I get chills EVERYTIME.
Yes
Every track is marvellous!!!!!!
Yes, pinwheels blows me away
definitely the closest he has gotten to a great album since the 90's
Zeitgeist, Teargarden, Glow/Superchrist, Monuments are all money albums right up there with 90's. It's a matter of listening to it with an open mind and without living in the past. I would take any of these more recent Pumpkin's song collections with me to a desert island.
vinnykster Can't say I agree with you about monuments. But I absolutely love Oceania.
My biggest problem with monuments is that it feels so disjointed and as if each song, while good in their own way, just doesn't have that lasting appeal and effect. One and all is definitely the best track and on its own, one of his better songs in a long time, but the rest of the album is a tad boring for my personal tastes.
I put zwan an the unreleased zwan as my fave an imo most closest to the oldschool material...it broke my heart when they broke up. Love this album an if all goes wrong dvd
For me this album is the best since adore. A classic!!!
🦇🦇🌛
Everything Billy does is art. He never went away. Music for the soul. Music that keeps you alive. Music for the pre-Singularity.
Amazing song. SP for ever
This song is amazing
It sounds like Billy finally found his muse from the Saimese Dream-Mellon Collie era again. This is a beautiful track and would fit nicely on either of those CD's. This song gives me the feeling of wistfully looking back on your youth in a video with all the happy, sad, and bittersweet emotions wash all over you at once, both wide eyed innocent and regretful at the same time...touching stuff.
Wonderfully spoken, my friend! I agree with you indeed.
I hated this song when i first listened to it; now i love it. Things are weird.
Eric Upperman I couldn't agree more. This whole album was that for me. Now I love it!
That's why SP new stuff is great. It grows on the listener because it's not pop garbage. Corgan has a ton of things going on in his songs so it takes time for the listener to catch up to that.
vinnykster Exactly what I was thinking. The track Oceania on this album is a testament to this.
It has a strange intro that takes a bit to get used to. I felt the same and now love it as well. Such a solid album.
I’ve been a pumpkins fan since ‘93 when my older played disarm for me on the top 9 at 9 when the radio used to be a thing. I’ve seen the pumpkins a number of times, Zwan and Billy solo. I went to his terrible poetry book signing and then the reading.
The point is. This is my favourite album.
Its kind of hard to listen to this song because its incredibly overwhelming and beautiful it fills me with all sorts of different emotions sad, and happy. Its pretty phenomenal
Mother moon
Mistress of the sun, say
I got you, I got you
Sister soul
Lover of the tune, sing!
I got you, I got you, I got you
Floating away I thing I'll stay as refused
Floating away I thing I'll stay blue-black
Floating away I thing I'll change next to you
Finding a way to make the loss seem new
'Cause you don't deserve me
But I deserve you
Mother moon
Mistress of the sun, say
I got you, I got you
Sister soul
Lover of the tune, sing!
I got you
I got you
Mother moon
Mistress of the sun, say
I got you, I got you, oh I've got you
I got you, I got you mother moon
Floating away I thing I'll stay as refused
Finding a way to make the loss seem now
Floating away I thing I'll change next to you
Finding a way to make the loss seem new
'Cause you don't deserve me
But I deserve you
Flies for the may queen
But life for the prince
If nobody wins
Then what get's lost?
If I've got you
One of the only Albums i think I have listened from start to finish and not skipped a single song.
how could anyone dislike any song on this album it's funking amazing
Never had a listen to any new Pumpkins stuff until now although I love their old stuff I have to say its all great! especially this album
This song (the whole álbum) is amazing. So intense yet gentle
Beautiful!!! Makes me think of the past.
I agree. I've listened to it continuously since it came out. Usually I tire of an album after about a month. Not this one. This one really delivers.
It is Billy's White Album, IMHO.
So beautiful it makes you cry! Can't wait to see them again in July!
Favorite song on this album
An amazing song!!
This song is a masterpiece, so many textures and elements to it. Love it , thanks Billy!
Agree 1000%. Just remember Mr. Race, if you aint first, your last. Trademarc ricky bobby patent pending etc.
This song is definitely my favorite on the album!
at first i didnt like it now it speaks to me, this song is so beautiful, cant wait to hear it live
I'd say in the 26 years I've listened to them, this is top ten one of my all time favorites. Love the composition and the use of synthesizers with guitars.
Billy keeps putting out great songs, this is one of his best!
the best song in this album! love it!
pure genius, love this song, love every song smashing pumpkins has made.
I love this track.
❤
Let the Celestials bless you, Billy Corgan! Thank you!!
The Rolling Stones write their music collectively (mostly Richards and Jager), but they all contribute... Smashing Pumpkins music has always been written by Corgan; that's the difference.
TheAlibabatree James Iha did contribute a fair bit, and Jimmy Chamberlin wrote all of his own drum parts, which was part of what made the Pumpkins sound so unique.
This album is so wonderful. I am so thankful that Smashing Pumpkins are still making very inspiring and beautiful music.
take care, jeff 😢 ill miss your work with the pumpkins!!! and the solos!! dont know why he had to leave
this is like a mayonaise from 2012. best song from the album!
WOW! Well done Pumpkins.....you've pulled me in once again!
The song begins at 2:11? Whaaa-? The beginning intro is the best part.
Me too. It has become one of my favorite songs.
i love this album
July 4th 2021
Laying in my bed listening to this at my lowest point in my life
Hope you broke thru bro!
Just saw this song performed live...."In Plainsong" tour. Amazing!
Esta canción desde la primera vez que la escuche hasta esta este instante se me hace hermosa en todo el sentido de la palabra.
It's scary how this song touched me today. I'm amazed. Thanks
It’s a powerful song
@@LespaulStrathappy I'm not the only one listening to this song in 2024
This song takes you out into a place completely unknown due to its eccentricity with all the alien-wave-like-sounding noises and dynamic strumming. This explains how it can be seen as space rock; it really pulls you out there.
Eu amo Smashing Pumpkins, sem palavras para descrever o que estou sentido ao ouvir esta linda música!!!
YAY!!!! my favourite band of years gone past hath resurrected themselves. You have made this 31 year old man very happy :). Perfect blend of shoegazey dream pop with splashes of psychedelia....awesome
This is a hugely underrated album by miles, if alternative hadn't been so commercialized I believe it had the potential to evolve into more like this, I've been a fan since day one and I say this album and current Pumpkin music is as good as their past, just matured for me. Thanks Billy and Pumpkins.
So tender. Love it.
Man I love this song; it's so beautiful!
Such beauty, how does he do it? Genius.
every second of this song transports me to another world
love tnhis tune
are we in a dream??
U got me SP
the reminds me of something by the Replacements, love it
i always had faith in pumpkins sure the last album wasnt great but billy yet again proves hes still got i will always support pumpkins and will always love there music forever
shall buy album now. this song made my mind up.
beautiful
ke chingon tema pff me trasporta perroncicimooooooooooooo felizidades ala banda the smashing pumpkins
Didn't think I was gonna like this song at first, but it's really grown on me. :)
I love this tune. Makes me feel so... happy (:
Beautiful song.
this song is so incredibly interesting and strange, i fucking love it. One of the best he has ever written.
God I love this song.
YES! YES! I love this !
AMAZING!!!
This kicks ass.
Probably my favourite 21st century Smashing Pumpkins song.
Merry good round
A little slice of heaven
Really great song, love it, amazing, makes me cry of happyness, i dont know, its so epic, thanks BC :)
The first 2 minutes and 10 seconds of this should be the culminating, cathartic ending scene of a JOHN HUGHES FILM... Listen to it with that lens and tell me I'm wrong!
Reminds me of 99 Floors from their residency at the Fillmore.
We're getting married to this next year
"From boy with rockets in his head to man with shining mind"
(Bill Nelson) Nice to see BC aging well ; would love to hear some instrumentals....
This is solid proof that Corgan really knows how to put a song together.
Kinda think he proved that way before but......
Well done Billy & Co. Representin' for Chi-town!
They've got me too!!!
the song begins at 0:00
This is the definition of it grows on you album
You can do it. Every time.
MAN, THE WORLD IS GETTING BACK INTO SHAPE!
Like the acoustic breaks, but those synth sounds I've heard on every other song made in the last 5 years.
Smashing Pumpkins say I've got you. cause you do have me.
this is my favorite SP album, and is it just me or does it sound like this song would fit in perfectly on Melonn Cholly?
Pumpkins fan from the beginning, and I think this (album) is as close to sounding like the OG Pumpkins as anything that Billy has attempted since the break up. Pinwheels is definitely a song I'd confidently throw into a Pumpkins mix. To me, it's not a song that would have felt "off" if it were somewhere on Mellon Collie. Certainly not as off as Cupid de Locke. Hehe...to be clear, I actually love Cupid de Locke. I appreciate it for the variety that it brought to the table, and I think Pinwheels would have fit right in.
Any yahoos listening DEC 2018 ?
Martin Bradley would February 2019 do? ;)
An artist has to grow musically...Billy went from young kid with great talent, too mature man with great genius!
Quality.
Intro reminds me of Baba O'Riley by The Who. Love this album though.
I disagree, technically Billy wrote, and even recorded many SP bass and guitar tracks..and Jimmy rocked on the drums. Jimmy may be gone, but Billy has always been the driving force behind the Pumpkins. I feel the spirit is there it's just evolved like the Pumpkins always have.
If nobody wins then what gets lost if I've got you?
i got youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
To each their own I guess. It's a solid album but, I certainly wouldn't give it best of 2012. It is an opinion on both our parts certainly. :) I can't stop listening to the new Big Wreck album myself. It rawks!
I thought the exact same :3
That's Nicole Fiorentino singing. She's the bass player. Jeff Schroeder told Billy they shouldn't bring in any extra musicians, to keep it tight with just the 4 of them. I like the result. But wouldn't rule out any experimentation in the future...
Their most radio friendly album from start to finish. But I think the wrong track as the debut single was its downfall.