I’ve noticed the rat 2s come from factory right hand tip down pocket clip position. Always have to change to tip up. That knockoff was tip up out of the box.
bro it were 2 diffrent models model 1 and model 2 those are 2 diffrent products both made from ontario and model 1 is the bigger version and model 2 a smaller version
Did you not watch the video? They put a fake Rat 2 into a Rat 1 box. Both knives are the same Rat 2 size, but the fake one has minor but noticeable physical differences.
Thank you so much for this video. It helped me confirm that the one I got from Amazon is actually real. I would have been stressing about it otherwise. Cheers!
They are both real. One is the Rat 1 and the other the Rat 2. OKC makes both. They obviously shipped a Rat 1 on accident. Now if the box said Rat 2 and came with that knife in it then you would have something.
It seems like you didn't actually watch the video past the 30 second mark. It's only a Rat 1 box. The knife inside the Rat 1 box is a fake Rat II. As in the smaller knife.
I got a nice clone on AliExpress for $10. I had hoped it would be real but I suspected it wouldn’t be. Still a nice little pocket knife for the price. Thanks for the video!
I guess the wrong box is pretty telling, but I'm curious if knife makers vary their models a little from year to year. If so isn't it possible that these differences could be due to model year changes?
Thanks for the video, a lot of information conveyed without a word, nice. Had my two Rat lls in hand while watching, they real. The edges of the fake's handles had machine marks where the real one was smooth.
I got burnt on s counterfeit rat2 from eBay the counterfeit was way thicker than the real rat 2 also lock up was so tight on the counterfeit it took a coin to get it to unlock
I got what l am pretty sure was a knock off Tenacious from eBay. It was a while between receiving it and looking at it. Decided to relist it with full disclosure about my suspicions. Still sold. It wasn't as obvious. Just had odd looking screws compared to real deal.
What does it really matter at this price point? I have carried a D2 knockoff for years. The steel is plenty hard, fit and finish are good. Scales are even better than original. No complaints. I did buy an authentic R2D2, just to support the company but I have no problems with the knockoffs.
Mine appears to be real based on this video. But the fake one looks so close, it's scary. Maybe it's best to buy factory direct. I read they the just confiscated $500,000,000 work of fake Nike shoes, so buyer beware.
It's nuts that they're counterfeiting $30 knives, but thanks for bringing this awareness.
In germany you pay around 50€ for a rat II which is around 55$
its 60+ here :(.
I’ve noticed the rat 2s come from factory right hand tip down pocket clip position. Always have to change to tip up. That knockoff was tip up out of the box.
Rat 1and 2 both come that way. Mine did anyway.
bro it were 2 diffrent models model 1 and model 2 those are 2 diffrent products both made from ontario and model 1 is the bigger version and model 2 a smaller version
Did you not watch the video? They put a fake Rat 2 into a Rat 1 box. Both knives are the same Rat 2 size, but the fake one has minor but noticeable physical differences.
Thank you so much for this video. It helped me confirm that the one I got from Amazon is actually real. I would have been stressing about it otherwise. Cheers!
Bought mine straight from Blade HQ its worth the five bucks more i payed than on Amazon for the assurance that its real
Blade HQ is the way to go! There are many reputable dealers to choose from. I love Amazon but NOT for buying knives...
Same!
A voice over would have really made this a great video.
Thank you and thanks to everyone who makes videos like this
They are both real. One is the Rat 1 and the other the Rat 2. OKC makes both. They obviously shipped a Rat 1 on accident. Now if the box said Rat 2 and came with that knife in it then you would have something.
It seems like you didn't actually watch the video past the 30 second mark. It's only a Rat 1 box. The knife inside the Rat 1 box is a fake Rat II. As in the smaller knife.
Thanks for the fine work divulging another Chinese counterfeit. I wish more people would take time to share. Thanks
Thanks for the heads up..appreciated.
you're welcome!
Thank you for the good comparison
Dang didn’t think that there were fakes of this, the only “copy” I’ve heard of is the Ganzo version.
Thank you for making this video. I just received my Rat 2 from amazon and was trying to determine if it was a clone or not.
It is a really nice knife, too bad that there are counterfeit all around. Hopefully, yours is the real deal. Thank you for dropping by.
I got a nice clone on AliExpress for $10. I had hoped it would be real but I suspected it wouldn’t be. Still a nice little pocket knife for the price. Thanks for the video!
It would be great if you can tear down both knives to compare the 'inside'.
I guess the wrong box is pretty telling, but I'm curious if knife makers vary their models a little from year to year. If so isn't it possible that these differences could be due to model year changes?
And they are making g10 rat 2 now
Thanks for the video, a lot of information conveyed without a word, nice. Had my two Rat lls in hand while watching, they real. The edges of the fake's handles had machine marks where the real one was smooth.
I got burnt on s counterfeit rat2 from eBay the counterfeit was way thicker than the real rat 2 also lock up was so tight on the counterfeit it took a coin to get it to unlock
I got what l am pretty sure was a knock off Tenacious from eBay. It was a while between receiving it and looking at it. Decided to relist it with full disclosure about my suspicions. Still sold. It wasn't as obvious. Just had odd looking screws compared to real deal.
Ontario rats always come with the pocket clip in the right hand tip down carry position also
How are amazon allowing this.??
Whanni bought my rat 2 for 25$ I was worried it was fake but felt so nice... It's real 😁
Looks like they just shipped you the wrong one, 5 minutes of research is all it takes
What does it really matter at this price point? I have carried a D2 knockoff for years. The steel is plenty hard, fit and finish are good. Scales are even better than original. No complaints. I did buy an authentic R2D2, just to support the company but I have no problems with the knockoffs.
I may have the same knife.
I always wondered if it's real D2.
@@conjandysecurity It doesn't hold an edge like the real one.
It’s not fake. They tweak the design
Just curious why you didn't compare the knockoff Rat 1 to a real Rat 1 instead of a real Rat 2?
Yeah I'm confused, the orders both say Rat 2's it looks like. Idk.
He says in the beginning that they BOTH are Rat 2, but the box just says Rat 1. I assume he means box is mislabeled. I found that confusing, too.
Ontario doesn't use Roman numerals. It'll say 2 not ll.
Ya they do look at official Ontario website
Mine came so stiff it’s hard to use, any recommendations?
Not as hard to open as it is to close, if that makes sense, hurts my fingers trying to close it since it’s so stiff.
Mine appears to be real based on this video. But the fake one looks so close, it's scary. Maybe it's best to buy factory direct. I read they the just confiscated $500,000,000 work of fake Nike shoes, so buyer beware.
Hawaii RealMedia got mine from Blade HQ thats where i get all mine its a great seller
I buy my nikes from blade hq
@@glzarmy I buy my blades from Nike
It's scary and yet its not. Just a useful cheap pocket knife. Even the knockoff you would pretty much be fine using. Haha
where did you buy the real one ?
agouti blade hq is a great place to buy real knives
Is the quality the same?
I wonder too ;(
No
non-music riff track is annoying... skip it
I have some knockoffs and they're decent knives in their own right. It's just sad that China supports counterfeiting like this.
Counterfeit youtuber.