As a mechanical engineer in my 40's I can't help but watch this and think how much we have regressed as a country. All components made in the US including the textiles, workers are all well dressed, etc.
This brought a 26 minute smile to my face. I graduated college in 86 with an engineering degree. I can only imagine the amount of work these men went through to bring us these wonderful cars.
I've had a 68 Chevy Impala, a 74 Monte Carlo, an 86 Corolla, a 94 Voyager, a 2002 Focus Wagon, an 08 Focus and a 15 Ford C-max hybrid. Each car was better than the last one. I don't get this misplaced nostalgia (which even sounds like a disease).
@@cheapgeek62Then why are you here?? Your comment is subjective, just your opinion. Best car I ever had was a 1966 Thunderbird. Tahoe Turquoise and white, swing away steering wheel very beautiful car. SUVs are ugly and all look the same, and that's not subjective. A Ford Focus LMAO 😅
I worked at Fischer Body in willow springs Illinois from '84 til layoffs in about 87, when they closed it. I was a tool and die maker at that stamping plant. We shipped approximately 60 box cars of body panels per week to Detroit. Raw steel coils came in by train, finished panels for Buicks, Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs left on the same rails. It's now a huge UPS distribution center (at least it was last time I drove by on 294). I consider myself lucky to have worked on some of the dies that stamped out those panels. Quite an experience!
I live about 10 minutes from there. Back then we used to attend the ham radio "Field Days" on the grounds of that plant. It's still a UPS distribution center.
@@sammyweed4771 Thats really cool! Did you ever do that very intricate button tufting that the D'Elegance Interiors and Eldorado Biarritz had? I always wondered WHO did this upholstery work and was it hand done or by machines of some sort? I'd love to know as its always intrigued me. Im a 1966 Model myself so I was of age when 70s 80s cars were new
This was a fascinating presentation. Parts of this video were shot at the Arlington, Texas GM assembly plant. My school took us there when these very Monte Carlos and Chevelle Malibu's were being assembled in the early 1970's. They also built the Oldsmobile Cutlass here, as well as mid-sized Pontiacs. It was a field trip I will never forget. Getting to watch those gorgeous Monte Carlos & Cutlasses join with their chassis and sometimes seeing a big block 454 or Rocket 455 being installed. Hard to believe that this was more than 50 years ago. Much more automation and massive technological advances have taken place since way back then. Seeing those ancient computers was a gas. Great memories of being 11 years old.
That would have been a neat thing to experience. I do remember watching a film in automotive class in the 70's Called the making of the modern automobile; That featured the complete assembly of the Chevrolet Monte Carlo. I would have rather had the experience you had though.
Thanks for posting. My favorite aunt retired from Fisher Body. She passed away several years back, and I keep hoping I might see her in one of these videos.
That was a promo film made to look sharp and progressive. You would think we would have had airbags a lot sooner. How long did it take for seat belts to become standard in the US after Preston Tucker made it obvious to execs? We are great...er than most. Why do you think we have so many people coming here from other countries?
It is amazing to me the quality of the parts, metal grills, chrome bumpers, idefcation badging,and trim, multipal color interior colors, quantity fabrics and door panels, unlike today with plastic used everywhere. Thoes dsys are long gone.
@@JamesK7911Yep let's ignore the oil crisis. I worked for hess oil back then as a merchant marine. We weren't allowed to dock until they got the ok to push up the price from 60 cents to a dollar and then blame the middle east. Once they got the ok we were allowed to deliver the oil
GM was the absolute king of the big 3 back 1965-1975, best designs, materials, interior, fit and finish, power trains, performance, suspensions, reliability, braking and ride, did I miss anything? Sill own and drive a stock, numbers matching 1972 SS Chevelle big block.
@bsquared4604 Those "cars"That you refer to are more like Home Appliances or Infotainment centers, there not cars anymore or Urban assault vehicles!!!!!.
I worked in Flint Michigan fisher body on south Saginaw st building Buick Regals !!! In 1973 Now the south unit is not even standing 😮😮😮my dad worked at Turnsted division making hardware for GM models 😊😊😊😊
Yes !!! They had large trucks and the bodies , firewall back would head out to final assembly chassis and engine, then to lots for truck or rail delivery 😀😀😀🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺
When I worked at GM 20 years ago, some of those huge tables at 9:20 were still around. I used to roll out harness prints on them to review and mark up.
My Dad always had Cadillacs growing up all my life every 4 years he would get himself a new one Eldarado, Seville, Or a Fleetwood , I would always see that Fisher name badge on the door frame of all his vehicles , So I grew up knowing Fisher meant something to Cadillac / GM cars ..👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾❤️❤️❤️💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Fisher purchased the Fleetwood Metal Body Company in Fleetwood, PA back in the 1920's, from the 1930's to the early 90's they produced Fleetwood-bodied Cadillacs. They certainly made some beautiful cars back in the day!
all the comments and here's the best part, Brand new, these cars were +- $4000.00 now a new pickup to work out of is north of $100,000.00 and we had to bail GM out a few years ago, I guess plastic and electronic non necessaties are rediculously expensive or did Greed come riding in and the car buying public is just getting boned. restore something or buy restored, to hell with new, no style plastic junk. America needs an overhaul, these videos are a testament to what our nation can do.Past time to bring it back home.
I completely agree!! Fkn SUVs are look the same big chicken eggs! It's extraordinary these people today pay 40k+ for these ugly things! People evidently don't buy vehicles off looks anymore. I want another old car turn key but they start around 25k, I'd like a mid 60s Thunderbird or a old 60s Ford or Chevy wagon
This is really cool. I’m 66 and my Neighbor when I was a Boy worked for Fisher Body. He helped designed the Cadillac Fleetwood . He told me the best stories about his Job.
I worked at Metal Crafters that built concept cars for major manufacturers one of them was Mercedes and that’s when I learned how much detail actually goes into the design of any new car it’s truly amazing how detailed everything is! From how far the door opens to the reach a person has to do to reach the actual door to the position of the driver’s Seat! In many Mercedes cars the driver’s seat is actually pointed ever so slightly to the center of the car so your eyesight is focused to a point somewhere well in front of the car while it’s driving at speed!
good stuff... this seems to be around 70-71' overall quality was still very high for most GM medium to high priced vehicles.. especially Buick and Cadillac.
@@stravis3269Compared to what? I've been by big SUVs almost as big as a small bus and I can't see anything! Dangerous big blind spot even sitting in parking lots pulling out! BOOM!!! Gas guzzlers too not what the sticker says! The other SUVs all look the same and are very bland. People today don't buy cars of looks evidently like in these days in the videos. After the late 80s the cars were most all same egg shaped plastic rubbish. The 90s most were all chicken eggs except for some foreign car's
My grandfather worked for GM in Buffalo. He started out sweeping floors and retired 45 years later as plant manager. As a kid growing up in the 70's I had hoped to one day go to work for GM, but my parents moved us away from there and it never came about.
…the major standouts: 1….the dominance of mid-century business wear; white shirts with black ties and slacks…a haven for plastic “pocket protectors”… 2. …with two notable exceptions, the domain of white males in the engineering and design studios… 3. …the nascent use of computer assisted design… …an illuminating look at the industry some 55 years ago..
Ah, the good ol' straight White Man. The engine of all real progress. When we ran the show, things worked out well and despite occasional errors (blown up and exaggerated by dual citizen media). Now that we've been deposed and replaced by Diversity Inclusion Equity and Woke, everything has gone to shttt. But, nobody is allowed to point that out in any meaningful detail. I celebrated when that deplorable dual citizen OceanGate CEO went down with his Diversity-inspired submarine project. He OPENLY dissed and punked the old straight White Men who warned him of the errors in his design. Said that he didn't want to hire White guys because we weren't inspirational. Karma put him in his place. [applause]
Today's major standout is YT's comment suppression system and its direct focus on suppressing any comment that comes to the defense of White men and a world that was better to live in because of us. We've been gaslighted, defamed, and marginalized and the West is in free fall as a result.
I love the diversity of the people in this video. I saw Poles, Italians, Germans, Irish, I saw blue eyes, Brown eyes, blonde hair, black hair, I saw detached earlobes, round heads, oval heads, pointy heads. Not once did I see a African, Indian, Asian or Mexican, but it was diverse.
The only GM car my dad ever owned was a 1974 Chevrolet Impala wagon. with the small-block 400 cid engine. It was a VERY high quality car. The clam-shell tailgate leaked into the car, the dashboard cracked down the center, the glue-on trim fell off, they even welded up the upper control arm shaft bushing nuts so to replace them you had to buy the whole shaft. To top it all off we had to replace the engine; you know, the one with those "low-compression" deep dish pistons. Of course, that 400 small-block was externally balanced. One of the worst pieces of crap ever. GREAT VIDEO!
That was mid 70s. My 1966 Ford County Sedan with the little 289 was a great wagon, no leaks, vinyl seats had no tears, motor ran quiet as a mouse. It died from road salt, had to get rid of it. I'd like to buy a rust free one out west but I don't have 25k to drop at the moment
I toured the GM assembly plant in 1989, in Van Nuys, CA when they were building F body Camaro and Firebirds with a friend who had worked there for over 30 years. Sadly, the plant closed soon after that.
My favorite worked at the GM Doraville plant for 24 years in the paint department. I remember a family tour there in about this same time period. I believe they were building full size cars. It was a great experience for a 11 year old. I really wanted to see the truck plant at Lakewood. I'm not sure when the Doraville plant closed, but Lakewood closed in 91 I think. Their last model was the box body Caprice and the last few were for the GA State Patrol. I remember seeing them at the delivery lot when the plant had closed. We bought some plant surplus from time to time. Today in WA state I still have a set of long forks we bought at the Lakewood GA plant in the 80s. I still use them daily in my shop.
There was a fisher body plant in my home town years ago we went on a tour in the plant as a family because our family worked in us steel mill the two plants was across from each other the GM plant is completely gone NOW :( I think there was 2000 workers all leaving at the same time it was a traffic jam pulling out in the main road fisher body it was huge Amazing how big that place was the mill is still there running today it was amazing seeing them parts being made all the cushmen carts and all the people working them machines super amazing experience thanks to us steel and fisher body I got to see both places
1:21 the worker slapped that trim onto its mounting clips, which probably broke paint on the body underneath it. Not his fault, he's doing his job as designed. No time is allowed for extra care, no applications of protective coatings under the trim are added to the process. Now that trim that people thought would protect that lower rear area of the car's body will actually serve to accumulate and trap water and corrosives into continuous contact with the metal underneath it where the paint has been broken since the day it was assembled. Unless that car went to a desert climate and stayed there, it has long since rusted away.
I'm a mechanical engineer rocket scientist. I worked at the Fisher assembly plant in San Francisco from 1969 till 2 years ago. I designed every single GM product since then. Corvettes, Camaro, Chevelle, you name it and it's my creation. I had some good help and that's why I'm so successful. I retired and now I'm a philanthropist. A philanthropist is a person with lots of money and helps. others.😊
Looks like around the time I got married! The child safety car seat was just like the one my mother - in - law got us. That was G M s design. She worked at Delco In Oak Creek Wisconsin we still get the GM Employee discount. I’ve bought 20 new cars with that discount.starting in 72 till my new 2024 Cadillac XT6. Loved every single one.
The last beautiful bodystyle Cadillac car ( now the early Escalade was nice up to about 2012) was the 1992.5 Cadillac Brougham, then in 93 they went plastic aerodynamic crap
I've restored a few automobiles from the 60''s, & It's neat when you strip them down, & reassemble them because you can really appreciate how the were built from the begging. & you can see the pride that they took in making them, & I like one of the final assembly parts near the end of the restoration; That would be the door sill plate with the Body By Fisher emblem on it lets you know you did it right; Like they did.
I can't help but look at the Monti Carlos being assembled, my father brought a brand new bright orange and white vinyl top 1971, I was born in 74 and that was the car I was brought home from the hospital in, I remember seeing a picture that my father had taken of my mom sitting on the passenger side holding me, fifty years ago.
General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, American Motors, JEEP! Innovation, Creativity, and Competition, cannot happen in a communist/marxist environment. I am Proud to have been born an AmerICAN!! Where "I Can" is always possible.
Back when you actually felt like you could afford a new car. I just saw an article for a $107.000 Ford pickup. Two-wheel drive. But loaded. It's hard to believe that they used to change body styles every year. And most of them really looked different than last years. Now it's all Mexico and it shows.
Oh come on! When those door hinges wear and the door won't close you can roll the window down and push up on the window frame while closing. Of course, you can't do that if the window is frameless.
@@lvsqcsl I grew up when these Novas were new, used and bent. You and your Chevy buddy are in the junkyard looking for a door when it dawns on you they're welded on. I can't tell you how many Novas I saw going down the road looking like they were permanently turning left, or right forever more, after the mildest of front end impacts. Several buddies had the very front of their frame rails rot out, completely liberating the steering box from that very frame. One had just spent a fortune getting his Nova resprayed only to find out his steering was done permanently. I saw several attempts of pounding wood inside the frame rails and trying to secure that steering box. And who doesn't remember a pushrod coming through the 307s valve cover because of "push in" rocker studs......on a moving parts engine! Push in studs! The fact you couldn't fit anything wider than an E70 series tire in the wheelwells ensured you couldn't get traction, even if it had a suspension that could plant the tires. I remember when back halfing and tubbing hit the streets in the mid 70s, Novas were the FIRST to get this done to them, to correct the terrible GM engineering in these cars. Never owned a GM, never will.
Dad had a 1964 Buick Skylark that he kept as a beater for us kids to use as training wheels. Got my license in 1982, the last of the three kids to drive it, it was beat to hell by the time it finally reached me. Front left quarter panel was replaced with a junkyard panel, not even the same color. Driver side door was caved in. Paint worn through, upholstery in ribbons. And I loved that car dearly. If I could go back in time, I'd time capsule that car so I could restore it at a later date, which happens to be now.
Wauw! I had a 1978 2 door Malibu with a fisher body back in 2000, and I always wondered how a car was developed, designed , and put together😊 and now I know. Amazing documentary 😊
I get annoyed when a 35 year old tells me that the factory "didn't care" about door gaps in the decades past. Young people rarely know what they're talking about.
But they didn’t. Around 1973 my dad and I stopped in at the local Pontiac dealer. On the sales floor was a white two door sporty Pontiac. I remember there was paint drip on the edge of the trunk lid, and orange peel paint on the lower sills and quarters. My Dad’s VW cars had no such issues. The build quality was superb. GM products were shoddy, as were American cars generally. It as the beginning of Denning’s quality sampling in Japan, and so the beginning of the decline of American manufacturing in general.
Turnstead, later fisher body Detroit on springwells & fort in Detroit. That place hummed 24 / 7. Then the olds and caddy bodies on the car haulers going down Clark St. To Clark assembly on Michigan Ave and Clark St. Sad that's all gone now.
What they aren’t showing is upper management and the bean counters hamstringing engineering, sacrificing quality and customer satisfaction to make as much money as possible in the short term- that’s the American management style I’ve worked under for over 40 years
Love seeing those clay models of the second generation Pontiac Firebirds. And that formula undergoing testing. This is back when American car manufacturing was so great. Before robotic automation replaced people
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As a mechanical engineer in my 40's I can't help but watch this and think how much we have regressed as a country. All components made in the US including the textiles, workers are all well dressed, etc.
That is a matter of opinion. Obviously depending on the field , I’m sure they have a dress code at modern day GM.
Uncle Sam is not #1 that's why
It’s part of the plan devised by the filthy politicians
This is about 1970. It's not far in time from the moon landing. America at it's Zenith.
It can all be attributed to one thing…Greed.
This brought a 26 minute smile to my face. I graduated college in 86 with an engineering degree. I can only imagine the amount of work these men went through to bring us these wonderful cars.
I've had a 68 Chevy Impala, a 74 Monte Carlo, an 86 Corolla, a 94 Voyager, a 2002 Focus Wagon, an 08 Focus and a 15 Ford C-max hybrid. Each car was better than the last one. I don't get this misplaced nostalgia (which even sounds like a disease).
I agree worked for GM and studies at the tech center for a year ❤
@@cheapgeek62
Ikr 😅
@@cheapgeek62Then why are you here?? Your comment is subjective, just your opinion. Best car I ever had was a 1966 Thunderbird. Tahoe Turquoise and white, swing away steering wheel very beautiful car. SUVs are ugly and all look the same, and that's not subjective. A Ford Focus LMAO 😅
Destroyed by union greed
I worked at Fischer Body in willow springs Illinois from '84 til layoffs in about 87, when they closed it. I was a tool and die maker at that stamping plant. We shipped approximately 60 box cars of body panels per week to Detroit. Raw steel coils came in by train, finished panels for Buicks, Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs left on the same rails. It's now a huge UPS distribution center (at least it was last time I drove by on 294). I consider myself lucky to have worked on some of the dies that stamped out those panels. Quite an experience!
I live about 10 minutes from there. Back then we used to attend the ham radio "Field Days" on the grounds of that plant. It's still a UPS distribution center.
@@BobBish-m9x yes.... between emd locomotive and Fischer body, I had just enough years to get a small pension. Fascinating career.
Thank you for sharing this story about the history. It's great to hear about your lived experience with it!
I worked at the Fleetwood plant in Detroit.B.O.C same yrs as you. Worked in the cushion room building seats. Got my 36 in and retired 2 yrs ago
@@sammyweed4771 Thats really cool! Did you ever do that very intricate button tufting that the D'Elegance Interiors and Eldorado Biarritz had? I always wondered WHO did this upholstery work and was it hand done or by machines of some sort? I'd love to know as its always intrigued me. Im a 1966 Model myself so I was of age when 70s 80s cars were new
This was a fascinating presentation. Parts of this video were shot at the Arlington, Texas GM assembly plant. My school took us there when these very Monte Carlos and Chevelle Malibu's were being assembled in the early 1970's. They also built the Oldsmobile Cutlass here, as well as mid-sized Pontiacs. It was a field trip I will never forget. Getting to watch those gorgeous Monte Carlos & Cutlasses join with their chassis and sometimes seeing a big block 454 or Rocket 455 being installed. Hard to believe that this was more than 50 years ago. Much more automation and massive technological advances have taken place since way back then. Seeing those ancient computers was a gas. Great memories of being 11 years old.
That would have been a neat thing to experience. I do remember watching a film in automotive class in the 70's Called the making of the modern automobile; That featured the complete assembly of the Chevrolet Monte Carlo. I would have rather had the experience you had though.
GM was amazing at that time. Thanks to King Rose Archives for posting this film.
Fisher by general motors is classic I think he was a influence in body design
No car manufacturer was amazing at that time. It was the Malaise Era.
@@ChrisBrooke-l8i your wrong
Gm is crap now because they have a woman in charge..smh so sad
@@ChrisBrooke-l8imalaise era starts from 73-74
Thanks for posting. My favorite aunt retired from Fisher Body. She passed away several years back, and I keep hoping I might see her in one of these videos.
what a mammoth undertaking to build an automobile and we did it with flying colors every year back when the people of America were great.
We’ve come a long way.
We are still great.
@@28704joe
We are a failed nation under God’s judgment.
That was a promo film made to look sharp and progressive. You would think we would have had airbags a lot sooner. How long did it take for seat belts to become standard in the US after Preston Tucker made it obvious to execs?
We are great...er than most. Why do you think we have so many people coming here from other countries?
WE ARE STILL I SAY AGAIN STILL GREAT. YES THAT'S RIGHT. USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Born & raised in Saginaw, Michigan. Sad when the music died in the 80's here. I built machines for Fisher as a machinist.
I was born in Saginaw as well, have since moved away, it’s sad to go back and see the carnage of globalization.
They say modern computer technology & show what looks like a fax machine, 🤣 funny.
@@JAKPMnice to see old cars up close when they were new & in perfect shape
It is amazing to me the quality of the parts, metal grills, chrome bumpers, idefcation badging,and trim, multipal color interior colors, quantity fabrics and door panels, unlike today with plastic used everywhere. Thoes dsys are long gone.
Cars were pieces of shit back then.
Yah and let’s just ignore the terrible amount of fuel mileage you’d get from all that. Perfect for a decade that saw 2 oil crisis 🤷♂️
@@JamesK7911Yep let's ignore the oil crisis. I worked for hess oil back then as a merchant marine. We weren't allowed to dock until they got the ok to push up the price from 60 cents to a dollar and then blame the middle east. Once they got the ok we were allowed to deliver the oil
@@JamesK7911You troll often to old school vids or just bored?
Could return at any time. It all could be done again, just cost more now, higher wages etc.
I remember seeing that blue coach on the door sill as a kid.
Fisher Body - the 'Pride of Tarrytown, NY!'
Made by Fisher Body mark of excellence.
GM was the absolute king of the big 3 back 1965-1975, best designs, materials, interior, fit and finish, power trains, performance, suspensions, reliability, braking and ride, did I miss anything? Sill own and drive a stock, numbers matching 1972 SS Chevelle big block.
Breaking??
OOPS **braking** happens to the best of us.@@dadgarage7966
Talk about the wrong word to misspell, haha!@@dadgarage7966
Absolutely the best! I'm a GM guy. CHEVY runs deep in my blood
@BullshitdetectorA1BullDe-xo3pr I was referring to factory stock personal/family daily driver cars, not race heritage.
Wow!!I the quality, the computers, the workforce, the era. These same cars hold there value today as the day they were shipped out!
Worth a lot more
What a country we had.
You ain't kidding, now it's gone to the dogs.
they still make cars here you know.
Now according to your Overlords. You must hand over your Car soon.. no more freedoms sheeple.. it will be over soon
@bsquared4604 Those "cars"That you refer to are more like Home Appliances or Infotainment centers, there not cars anymore or Urban assault vehicles!!!!!.
Yeah that great Tesla truck garbage truck with the adjustable acceleration pedal. Lol
The people that developed and built the machines and computers for the engineers and designers to work with are the real hero's.
I worked in Flint Michigan fisher body on south Saginaw st building Buick Regals !!! In 1973 Now the south unit is not even standing 😮😮😮my dad worked at Turnsted division making hardware for GM models 😊😊😊😊
Do yo know What models were built at fisher body plant in Detroit by the Ford Paquette plant
You probably sent them to Buick city. My uncle was a tool and die maker for Buick.
It's all a cesspool over there now sad ! Nothing's left.
Yes !!! They had large trucks and the bodies , firewall back would head out to final assembly chassis and engine, then to lots for truck or rail delivery 😀😀😀🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺
I never get tired of watching this.😊
Classic
5:21 First year for the 454 CID. Nearly 400 HP in a 70 Implala/Caprice grocery getter. Nice.
Love the Caprice and 1970 71 and I think 72 they had the wide body. Like olds
I didn't see anything 454 at that time stamp.
454= huge gas hog! 5 mpg
@@foxtrot312
WRONGO! 7-10 MPG. 😄
12 mpg in my 5600 pound 1975 Cadillac limo, 500 CI. @t312
From back when America was great...
I agree gm had the best back then. Nowadays it's Bull shit
Yep 👍
Yes sir we are never going to see those times of great USA product. God bless the folks who preserve old classics
Yup good times they were. Never to return
It's comments like these that make the current generations swell with pride.
When I worked at GM 20 years ago, some of those huge tables at 9:20 were still around. I used to roll out harness prints on them to review and mark up.
My Dad always had Cadillacs growing up all my life every 4 years he would get himself a new one Eldarado, Seville, Or a Fleetwood , I would always see that Fisher name badge on the door frame of all his vehicles , So I grew up knowing Fisher meant something to Cadillac / GM cars ..👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾❤️❤️❤️💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Fisher purchased the Fleetwood Metal Body Company in Fleetwood, PA back in the 1920's, from the 1930's to the early 90's they produced Fleetwood-bodied Cadillacs. They certainly made some beautiful cars back in the day!
The 72 Monte Caro is still a GREAT car.
all the comments and here's the best part,
Brand new, these cars were +- $4000.00
now a new pickup to work out of is north of $100,000.00
and we had to bail GM out a few years ago, I guess plastic and electronic non necessaties are rediculously expensive or did Greed come riding in and the car buying public is just getting boned.
restore something or buy restored, to hell with new, no style plastic junk. America needs an overhaul, these videos are a testament to what our nation can do.Past time to bring it back home.
I completely agree!! Fkn SUVs are look the same big chicken eggs! It's extraordinary these people today pay 40k+ for these ugly things! People evidently don't buy vehicles off looks anymore. I want another old car turn key but they start around 25k, I'd like a mid 60s Thunderbird or a old 60s Ford or Chevy wagon
good old days - pride in industry
The best days.
Narrated by the best in the business, Peter Thomas!
RIP "The Forensic Files" dude
This is really cool. I’m 66 and my Neighbor when I was a Boy worked for Fisher Body. He helped designed the Cadillac Fleetwood . He told me the best stories about his Job.
I worked at Metal Crafters that built concept cars for major manufacturers one of them was Mercedes and that’s when I learned how much detail actually goes into the design of any new car it’s truly amazing how detailed everything is! From how far the door opens to the reach a person has to do to reach the actual door to the position of the driver’s Seat! In many Mercedes cars the driver’s seat is actually pointed ever so slightly to the center of the car so your eyesight is focused to a point somewhere well in front of the car while it’s driving at speed!
Idk
Back in the day ya, Mercedes was beautiful before they turned them into eggs 🤮
good stuff... this seems to be around 70-71' overall quality was still very high for most GM medium to high priced vehicles.. especially Buick and Cadillac.
That's a 1970 Monte Carlo
Yes sir those are considered boats. Big body even Pontiac product
@@chuckprahl170 I own a custom monte 84
@@stravis3269Compared to what? I've been by big SUVs almost as big as a small bus and I can't see anything! Dangerous big blind spot even sitting in parking lots pulling out! BOOM!!! Gas guzzlers too not what the sticker says! The other SUVs all look the same and are very bland. People today don't buy cars of looks evidently like in these days in the videos. After the late 80s the cars were most all same egg shaped plastic rubbish. The 90s most were all chicken eggs except for some foreign car's
Hard work. In terms of morale, quality etc., be sure to read "Rivethead," by former GM autoworker Ben Hamper.
Great book
They sure had that back seat testing (11:35) accurately dialed in.
Back when America was a manufacturing powerhouse. I miss those days.
I miss the days when you could tell one brand of car from another without having to read the name on it.
Hard to even find name now, like their ashamed to even show it
@@rogerdodrill4733 And some of them should be
@@rogerdodrill4733 Most cars today look like SHIT to begin with!!!!.
Me too !!!
Let’s hope history repeats itself on this one
Yes, But Will never happened !!!!
In a time machine, you'll never see a car with chrome on it with curves, it has to be a plastic round SUV or nothing
My grandfather worked for GM in Buffalo. He started out sweeping floors and retired 45 years later as plant manager. As a kid growing up in the 70's I had hoped to one day go to work for GM, but my parents moved us away from there and it never came about.
Those old monties were some of best demo derby/ bomber class races ever!!!!❤❤
Absolutely awesome.
Thank you! Cheers!
…the major standouts:
1….the dominance of mid-century business wear; white shirts with black ties and slacks…a haven for plastic “pocket protectors”…
2. …with two notable exceptions, the domain of white males in the engineering and design studios…
3. …the nascent use of computer assisted design…
…an illuminating look at the industry some 55 years ago..
So those are the white dudes who designed the Vega and Chevette,Citation pos 😂
Ah, the good ol' straight White Man. The engine of all real progress. When we ran the show, things worked out well and despite occasional errors (blown up and exaggerated by dual citizen media). Now that we've been deposed and replaced by Diversity Inclusion Equity and Woke, everything has gone to shttt. But, nobody is allowed to point that out in any meaningful detail.
I celebrated when that deplorable dual citizen OceanGate CEO went down with his Diversity-inspired submarine project. He OPENLY dissed and punked the old straight White Men who warned him of the errors in his design. Said that he didn't want to hire White guys because we weren't inspirational.
Karma put him in his place. [applause]
Today's major standout is YT's comment suppression system and its direct focus on suppressing any comment that comes to the defense of White men and a world that was better to live in because of us. We've been gaslighted, defamed, and marginalized and the West is in free fall as a result.
I love the diversity of the people in this video. I saw Poles, Italians, Germans, Irish, I saw blue eyes, Brown eyes, blonde hair, black hair, I saw detached earlobes, round heads, oval heads, pointy heads. Not once did I see a African, Indian, Asian or Mexican, but it was diverse.
I smell a racist
Video stupendo...love from Italy 💙🇮🇹💙
Omg this was gold too watch I wonder where those poor cars are now or what barn or junkyard they are sitting in 🥲
Crushed.
They mostly crush em. Their just eyesores haven't u heard
CUBA
The only GM car my dad ever owned was a 1974 Chevrolet Impala wagon. with the small-block 400 cid engine. It was a VERY high quality car. The clam-shell tailgate leaked into the car, the dashboard cracked down the center, the glue-on trim fell off, they even welded up the upper control arm shaft bushing nuts so to replace them you had to buy the whole shaft. To top it all off we had to replace the engine; you know, the one with those "low-compression" deep dish pistons. Of course, that 400 small-block was externally balanced. One of the worst pieces of crap ever. GREAT VIDEO!
That was mid 70s. My 1966 Ford County Sedan with the little 289 was a great wagon, no leaks, vinyl seats had no tears, motor ran quiet as a mouse. It died from road salt, had to get rid of it. I'd like to buy a rust free one out west but I don't have 25k to drop at the moment
I toured the GM assembly plant in 1989, in Van Nuys, CA when they were building F body Camaro and Firebirds with a friend who had worked there for over 30 years. Sadly, the plant closed soon after that.
Well good because the last nice bodystyle Camaro/Firebird was 1981. The aero style is ugly. My favourite is the 77-78 TAs
Fantastic look into this era.
My favorite worked at the GM Doraville plant for 24 years in the paint department. I remember a family tour there in about this same time period. I believe they were building full size cars. It was a great experience for a 11 year old. I really wanted to see the truck plant at Lakewood. I'm not sure when the Doraville plant closed, but Lakewood closed in 91 I think. Their last model was the box body Caprice and the last few were for the GA State Patrol. I remember seeing them at the delivery lot when the plant had closed. We bought some plant surplus from time to time. Today in WA state I still have a set of long forks we bought at the Lakewood GA plant in the 80s. I still use them daily in my shop.
There was a fisher body plant in my home town years ago we went on a tour in the plant as a family because our family worked in us steel mill the two plants was across from each other the GM plant is completely gone NOW :( I think there was 2000 workers all leaving at the same time it was a traffic jam pulling out in the main road fisher body it was huge
Amazing how big that place was the mill is still there running today it was amazing seeing them parts being made all the cushmen carts and all the people working them machines super amazing experience thanks to us steel and fisher body I got to see both places
1:21 the worker slapped that trim onto its mounting clips, which probably broke paint on the body underneath it. Not his fault, he's doing his job as designed. No time is allowed for extra care, no applications of protective coatings under the trim are added to the process. Now that trim that people thought would protect that lower rear area of the car's body will actually serve to accumulate and trap water and corrosives into continuous contact with the metal underneath it where the paint has been broken since the day it was assembled. Unless that car went to a desert climate and stayed there, it has long since rusted away.
Ok make sense
@@printissgraham4930 I did.
Ya out west (away from the coast) there's lots of old clean cars waiting to be restored or already done, just Google and shop! 💰
I'm a mechanical engineer rocket scientist. I worked at the Fisher assembly plant in San Francisco from 1969 till 2 years ago. I designed every single GM product since then. Corvettes, Camaro, Chevelle, you name it and it's my creation. I had some good help and that's why I'm so successful. I retired and now I'm a philanthropist. A philanthropist is a person with lots of money and helps. others.😊
Good for you
Really now? Did you work with Biden? I think he knows you. 🤥
So you’re the one to blame?
Back in the day when you really needed to wear sunglasses on the production line handling all that chrome real bling, no plastic bullshit crap
At 21.39 thats my dad!!! He retired march 1st 2024 55 years at GM
He looks like Elvis! congrats to your dad.
I have a 71 cutlass supreme a 71 chevelle and a 72 camaro
😂😂😂😂😂🧢
@@printissgraham4930
Yipppeeee
“Talented men”. Love that line. And I agree. Women have no business in the automotive industry. Especially running some of these companies.
Mary Barra.
Like the one ruining GM.
Yes, running General Motors is definitely a man's world and a man's job.
Its so nice to see your logo in the middle of the entire video.
Looks like around the time I got married! The child safety car seat was just like the one my mother - in - law got us. That was G M s design. She worked at Delco In Oak Creek Wisconsin we still get the GM Employee discount. I’ve bought 20 new cars with that discount.starting in 72 till my new 2024 Cadillac XT6. Loved every single one.
The last beautiful bodystyle Cadillac car ( now the early Escalade was nice up to about 2012) was the 1992.5 Cadillac Brougham, then in 93 they went plastic aerodynamic crap
Body by Fisher! The Kansas City Mo plant was a behive of activity in the 60s and 70s.
I can't even find a bathroom scale made in USA in 2024.
I've restored a few automobiles from the 60''s, & It's neat when you strip them down, & reassemble them because you can really appreciate how the were built from the begging. & you can see the pride that they took in making them, & I like one of the final assembly parts near the end of the restoration; That would be the door sill plate with the Body By Fisher emblem on it lets you know you did it right; Like they did.
I can't help but look at the Monti Carlos being assembled, my father brought a brand new bright orange and white vinyl top 1971, I was born in 74 and that was the car I was brought home from the hospital in, I remember seeing a picture that my father had taken of my mom sitting on the passenger side holding me, fifty years ago.
General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, American Motors, JEEP!
Innovation, Creativity, and Competition, cannot happen in a communist/marxist environment.
I am Proud to have been born an AmerICAN!!
Where "I Can" is always possible.
You can get all nostalgic all you want but the truth of the matter is the 1970s is when the reputation of the American carmaker took a shit.
Seeing real men work freaks you out , sorry you missed it.
Back when you actually felt like you could afford a new car. I just saw an article for a $107.000 Ford pickup. Two-wheel drive. But loaded. It's hard to believe that they used to change body styles every year. And most of them really looked different than last years. Now it's all Mexico and it shows.
107 dollars is not expensive
Weld those door hinges on that Nova. We'll never need to change them later.😆
Oh come on! When those door hinges wear and the door won't close you can roll the window down and push up on the window frame while closing. Of course, you can't do that if the window is frameless.
@@lvsqcsl I grew up when these Novas were new, used and bent. You and your Chevy buddy are in the junkyard looking for a door when it dawns on you they're welded on. I can't tell you how many Novas I saw going down the road looking like they were permanently turning left, or right forever more, after the mildest of front end impacts. Several buddies had the very front of their frame rails rot out, completely liberating the steering box from that very frame. One had just spent a fortune getting his Nova resprayed only to find out his steering was done permanently. I saw several attempts of pounding wood inside the frame rails and trying to secure that steering box. And who doesn't remember a pushrod coming through the 307s valve cover because of "push in" rocker studs......on a moving parts engine! Push in studs! The fact you couldn't fit anything wider than an E70 series tire in the wheelwells ensured you couldn't get traction, even if it had a suspension that could plant the tires. I remember when back halfing and tubbing hit the streets in the mid 70s, Novas were the FIRST to get this done to them, to correct the terrible GM engineering in these cars. Never owned a GM, never will.
@@malcolmhamilton5200. Every GM had its defects.
Beautiful, I really enjoyed watching this....
That was so awesome
I miss my late 80's Buick Skylark. Body by Fisher.
Buy one, Google
Dad had a 1964 Buick Skylark that he kept as a beater for us kids to use as training wheels. Got my license in 1982, the last of the three kids to drive it, it was beat to hell by the time it finally reached me. Front left quarter panel was replaced with a junkyard panel, not even the same color. Driver side door was caved in. Paint worn through, upholstery in ribbons.
And I loved that car dearly. If I could go back in time, I'd time capsule that car so I could restore it at a later date, which happens to be now.
Fisher Body The Greatest Automotive Legend's In Body Design History
old is gold car for the history
The good old days of Made in USA. Bring it back!
See the airbags? 1974 some cars had them and they worked perfectly, also ABS aka Automatic Skid Control
10:45 and despite all the prototyping and testing , I still heard complaints of squeaks, rattles, leaks, etc.
Remember when we gave tours to the Chinese and then gave them tool and die equipment? Beginning of the New World Order
If you worked for the big 3 throughout the 70s to the 90s you made an absolute killing and could retire with a lot.
Even showed the prototypes of the airbag from 2:36-2:53. Those came out in 1973-74.
Wow GM was amazing at that time)))))
Wauw! I had a 1978 2 door Malibu with a fisher body back in 2000, and I always wondered how a car was developed, designed , and put together😊 and now I know. Amazing documentary 😊
Buy another one
At 19:57 The sudden asinine substitution of glaringly loud music for the original narration is unforgivable. 👎👎👎👎25
And watermark
We need to bring those machines back
RIP Fisher Body
I get annoyed when a 35 year old tells me that the factory "didn't care" about door gaps in the decades past. Young people rarely know what they're talking about.
Yes, they're full of crap. They know about flat earth and puberty blocking hormones though.
But they didn’t. Around 1973 my dad and I stopped in at the local Pontiac dealer. On the sales floor was a white two door sporty Pontiac. I remember there was paint drip on the edge of the trunk lid, and orange peel paint on the lower sills and quarters. My Dad’s
VW cars had no such issues. The build quality was superb. GM products were shoddy, as were American cars generally. It as the beginning of Denning’s quality sampling in Japan, and so the beginning of the decline of American manufacturing in general.
Such amazing technology. And this was half a century ago!
Turnstead, later fisher body Detroit on springwells & fort in Detroit. That place hummed 24 / 7. Then the olds and caddy bodies on the car haulers going down Clark St. To Clark assembly on Michigan Ave and Clark St. Sad that's all gone now.
I wonder what happens to all the body stamping dies,, do any get bought or preserved?
@ 8:00 - all contained within a laptop computer today
yep and the battalion of disk packs is now a cloud
a cellphone
I seemed to have missed the part where they installed the rust accelerator.
What they aren’t showing is upper management and the bean counters hamstringing engineering, sacrificing quality and customer satisfaction to make as much money as possible in the short term- that’s the American management style I’ve worked under for over 40 years
1970 Monte Carlo. Could be 71-72 as well. Personal Luxury as they would name it.
1970 in the description
70, front parking lights in the bumper are rounded. 71 are rectangular and the 72 are in the grill.
My friend has a '70 Monte Carlo and owned a '72 when we were in high school.
Sad to think that between 1970-1980, prices of new cars went up 3-4 times, design, looks and the quality crashed that much.
Inflation was insane back then
There were some interiors that were pretty ridiculous, but there weren’t very many cars that looked all the same
Back when quality actually ment something 👊
Somebody has rose colored glasses on.
Yep, Japan did, and still does quality. America not so much.
I recently owned a green 1970 Monte Carlo, awesome car. Great video, from a time before the world become such a mess.
STIL LOVE FOR THIS PERFECTION IM 43 YERS MECANIC : OLD MAN FOR OLD THINGS ??
RESPECT FOR GREAT CARS !!
Terrible at spelling
Bodies by fisher. They used poke fun at it and call it coffins by fisher back in the 80s.
Alot different from the >$65,000 plastic, hard riding suspension, rolling computers they have to nerve calls car now.
The hard ride is from short sidewall tires, like we are all road racers now
What cars, all the big three build today are overpriced 4 door pickups. Crossovers and suv's
Just awesome, thanks for sharing .
Had no idea computers 🖥️ played such a role in the design back then wow😮
love that pontiac in clay,
Would like to know what a full size clay mock up weighed?
Enjoyed the video. Is the "King Rose Archives" water mark necessary?
were can I get the background soundtrack for cruising in my 78. 8track would be perfect.
That music, I'm waiting for Steve McQueen to come crash the party in a green Mustang.
The good old days before DEI.
Love seeing those clay models of the second generation Pontiac Firebirds. And that formula undergoing testing. This is back when American car manufacturing was so great. Before robotic automation replaced people
Don't think robots ever replaced people, just helped them work faster& easier
Im looking over these videos if I could find how those old canister style fuel sending units were build or how they work.