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  • What can this 20th-century experiment tell us about how socialism works in practice?
    With renewed debate approaching the 2020 presidential election about the potential impact of socialist influenced policies in America, the successes and failures of Milwaukee's "Sewer Socialists" profiled in America’s Socialist Experiment offer some real-world examples for those who only know socialism as a philosophy or label.
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  • @clarkewi
    @clarkewi 2 года назад +48

    America has a long socialist history going back to Eugene V. Debs, the "Wobblies", Jack London, May Day, Jack Reed (see the movie "Reds").

    • @corlyssd
      @corlyssd 2 года назад

      Going back further than that - to places like New Harmony, Indiana

  • @spanishtutor2552
    @spanishtutor2552 2 года назад +55

    Biden socialist? We need history and teaching of the humanities in our schools, please!

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 2 года назад +1

      Socialists are evil scum... And yes indeed, there does needs to be a revival in the study of the "Humanities," in the Classical sense...
      In fact, if the works of Greek Philosophers such as Plato were more widely known, then in my honest opinion, people wouldn't be clamoring for such bad ideas as Democracy or Socialism, in the first place...

    • @jackjohnson6603
      @jackjohnson6603 2 года назад +3

      It always fails.

    • @hansolowe19
      @hansolowe19 2 года назад +4

      @@jackjohnson6603 what does?

    • @fbyi2940
      @fbyi2940 2 года назад +12

      @@jackjohnson6603 ohh yeah capitalistic US is sure doing better lmao

    • @jb894
      @jb894 2 года назад +3

      @@fbyi2940 it is the greatest country in the history of the universe.

  • @kabiam
    @kabiam 2 года назад +63

    Socialism absorbed by the status quo. In the end America has a few socialist aspects. but the big ticket items are missing, mainly in the health care of the country.

    • @degamispoudegamis
      @degamispoudegamis 2 года назад +6

      America doesn't have any socialist aspects, because socialism is another mode of production that does away with capitalism. What America has is public institutions. Public institutions exist in every country because without them capitalist governments would collapse.

    • @petrovasylyk1094
      @petrovasylyk1094 2 года назад +1

      health care starts in your kitchen

    • @kabiam
      @kabiam 2 года назад +9

      @@petrovasylyk1094 Sure. If you break your arm you can always slap a raw steak on it.

    • @petrovasylyk1094
      @petrovasylyk1094 2 года назад

      @@kabiam dishonest comparison just like everything about your personality

    • @issstari954
      @issstari954 2 года назад +2

      @@kabiam If your break your arm splint it and put a cast on it lol. But on a serious note the medicine industry is basically kept exclusive its very monopolistic corporatist. The biggest problem is you cant see the price ahead of time the price changes. Is way overinflated theres virtually no competition. Just because the government covers healthcare isnt going to solve those problems infact they will only get worse.

  • @samiaarif3008
    @samiaarif3008 2 года назад +83

    You can have idealistic views but practicality is another thing which these leaders proved can be addressed.
    Loved the documentary from a part of the world where sewerage system is a huge problem of one of the most populous city of the world, Karachi.

  • @georgeb.wolffsohn30
    @georgeb.wolffsohn30 2 года назад +21

    "integrity." politicians don't routinely live with integrity.

    • @td7363
      @td7363 2 года назад

      Routinely is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence - especially when I look round at the governance of the UK at the moment. Thanks for a wry smile today and reaffirming my belief that other people are suspicious of those in power.

  • @randywarren7101
    @randywarren7101 2 года назад +19

    I am from Milwaukee. John Gurda's "The History Of Milwaukee" tells the whole story of the city.

  • @AndrewRayGorman
    @AndrewRayGorman 2 года назад +98

    I actually have Daniel Hoan's book "City Government". An interesting read if you can find a copy. Mine actually had Hoan's Order of Service pamphlet from his funeral inside it. I will get around to digitizing it and then getting it to the Milwaukee historical society if they want it.

    • @charlescanzater
      @charlescanzater 2 года назад +10

      Please do and ask PBS to offer it in their library . I thank you for caring and sharing .

    • @Del-Canada
      @Del-Canada 2 года назад +4

      That's a nice gesture. I am sure they have several copies of it, but you should send them some electronic mail correspondence to confirm. Would be a nice addition to the historical society.

  • @MisterFlak
    @MisterFlak 2 года назад +51

    Well this comments section will be interesting

    • @ashleelarsen5002
      @ashleelarsen5002 2 года назад +4

      I hope so, it's been pretty boring lately...

    • @danielalvarez-galan3702
      @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад +2

      Comment section is a shitshow and it’s only been 1hr. This should be good, I’m going to grab some popcorn lol.

    • @TheExplorder
      @TheExplorder 2 года назад +4

      @@danielalvarez-galan3702 Socialism hating Americans everywhere. Typical.

    • @wauliepalnuts6134
      @wauliepalnuts6134 2 года назад +2

      *_NOT AS INTERESTING AS GETTING KICKED OUT OF 109 COUNTRIES._*

    • @tpw84101
      @tpw84101 2 года назад +3

      @@TheExplorder good

  • @muuuuuud
    @muuuuuud 2 года назад +25

    "I don't greet kings" A man after my heart.

  • @terryaltherr2481
    @terryaltherr2481 2 года назад +20

    Love this documentary highlighting Milwaukee's Sewer Socialists though one minor tidbit: while Milwaukee was the most successful Socialist-run city in the US, Bridgeport, Connecticut was also pretty successful as well even if they liked to be called Social Democrats rather than Socialists.

    • @pt68picaso
      @pt68picaso Год назад

      Milwaukee, the largest city run by Socialists, circa 1910, ranked #12th in US populated cities while Bridgeport ranked 49th despite being 25 years older.
      As of 2020 Milwaukee is nearly 5 times area & 4 times population of Bridgeport 2020 US Census 96.81 vs 19.38 sq. mi. & 592,649 vs.148, 654 population respectively.
      However, tools with each cities names a Bridgeport milling machine I'm sure will cost >>> any Milwaukee tool.

  • @tristenreynolds8233
    @tristenreynolds8233 2 года назад +30

    Pretty cool concept, I'd much more prefer our country had a decentralized government giving cities and states the freedom to govern their citizens however the public sees fit. That way laws requested and needed in California dont effect people in Texas or New York

    • @davidlindsay9564
      @davidlindsay9564 2 года назад

      EXACTLY.

    • @stuartmcdonald5172
      @stuartmcdonald5172 2 года назад +5

      I couldn't agree more, however, there are some issues like gun control that have to be national in order to be effective. That said, I agree, it's crazy for people in Alaska to live by laws that work well in New York City.

    • @jacknogman3052
      @jacknogman3052 2 года назад +2

      Exactly what started the civil war.

    • @davidlindsay9564
      @davidlindsay9564 2 года назад

      @@jacknogman3052 the overeach of the federal government over the sovereign rights of the states.

    • @yeet8415
      @yeet8415 2 года назад

      I agree fundamentally with decentralizing power nationally to cities and states. How does one prevent civil war or the inevitable collapse of a political union under a more decentralized government (confederation) ?

  • @oldladykai3031
    @oldladykai3031 2 года назад +16

    I lived in Milwaukee till I was 20. Milwaukee functioned wonderfully!

    • @RocketmanRockyMatrix
      @RocketmanRockyMatrix Год назад

      Too bad the socialist policies turned Milwaukee into a sh!th0l3.

  • @bronctobreakfast377
    @bronctobreakfast377 2 года назад +13

    German Americans did this across the upper midwest.

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 2 года назад +34

    It is long past the time that the American people learned the difference between Socialism and Communism.

    • @GladysAlicea
      @GladysAlicea 2 года назад +2

      You're so right. Some of us know why most American people don't know the difference...social engineering created by the likes of Rockefeller and Ford Foundations. Socialism doesn't work for the rich; it robs them of their excessive profits and schemes, because it forces them to become unwilling partners in society's wellbeing, keeps regulations in check and creates fairness and equity. God forbid!

    • @davidlindsay9564
      @davidlindsay9564 2 года назад

      @@GladysAlicea right the difference is socialism comes first, kills a ton of people, then communism moves in and kills the rest.

    • @samhwwg
      @samhwwg 2 года назад

      Well historically speaking, without the strong basis of capitalism, no socialistic views can be progressed. Modern day successful “socialistic” countries like the Northern European countries aren’t socialist societies, they are capitalistic societies with some socialistic policies. All modern day “Communistic” countries are all socialistic countries because according to Marx’s theory, only the final stage where “no money exist” and “everybody get what they want and contribute as they can” can be called a communistic society, every “communist” country now therefore is still a socialist country, and they are all terrible.

    • @BillionsMLG
      @BillionsMLG 9 месяцев назад

      Socialism is better, not sorry lol

  • @jeffkane221
    @jeffkane221 2 года назад +14

    Met Frank in late 70's. Great mind and morals. Proud to have known him.

    • @badguy1481
      @badguy1481 2 года назад +3

      He came to a party we were having. Like he usually did, he probably took the Milwaukee city bus to get there. A GREAT guy

  • @robi6317
    @robi6317 2 года назад +23

    this history of Milwaukee should be mandatory in high schools and mandatorily aired on Fox News

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +9

      Nothing should be mandatory… people should choose whatever they want to learn or to read about… you are just trying to spread socialism … 🤮

    • @robi6317
      @robi6317 2 года назад +6

      @@dusa5918 and yet here you are trying to limit the spread of socialism that most people would want to hear or read about LOL

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +8

      @@robi6317 it’s NOT a good thing… I lived thru that… this documentary is cleverly deceiving…

    • @mrsoshadabaadman
      @mrsoshadabaadman 2 года назад +3

      @@dusa5918 You were born in 1910 in Molwakee?

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +1

      @@mrsoshadabaadman nope… but i lived through socialism… first hand experience…

  • @rowlandlarkham3206
    @rowlandlarkham3206 2 года назад +28

    What 3 qualities does a person have that can be given away, but never taken?
    Honour - Integrity - Compassion -
    You lose one, the other 2 are lost as well -
    Good leaders lead by previous Example, Common Sense, and Integrity - Too often those in power focus on how to take advantage of the system they supposedly represent - The voting public tends to focus on the rhetorical showmanship presented by the candidate instead of the actual qualifications needed for that office and usually regret that decision -

    • @BaronsHistoryTimes
      @BaronsHistoryTimes 2 года назад +2

      On those qualities, everyone is born into inherently equally.
      Then, the struggle in life is to keep those principles for a better world, against those who wantonly spurn those ideals.

    • @noahof-stuff9151
      @noahof-stuff9151 2 года назад

      who told you that ?

    • @LDuke-pc7kq
      @LDuke-pc7kq 2 года назад +1

      Excellent points

    • @Kunfucious577
      @Kunfucious577 2 года назад

      None of that matters anymore because you get rewarded for if ignoring those qualities. I think a lot of that has to do with todays socialist movement. All your problems are the fault of someone else’s oppression against you so your honor will always be intact. In fact, your honor requires you to take it back by any means available.

    • @noahof-stuff9151
      @noahof-stuff9151 2 года назад

      @@Kunfucious577 Stay away from the socialists/communists. They always end up resorting to violence. Same goes for the fascists. The mark of any government is how well the people live. I believe the homeless problem in the U.S today is by and large centered in areas dominated by socialists. They don't care to fix these problems, but rather use them as political footballs and evidence of the failings of the democratic state. Also that N.G.O's are being banned from assisting them because they are not ideologically aligned. If AOC were to be elected President, the U.S.A would quickly look very similar to modern day Libya!

  • @timkahn2813
    @timkahn2813 2 года назад +43

    its good they explain the difference between national socialism and democratic socialism. now if that message could be some how become a national news story.

    • @shawndyer8140
      @shawndyer8140 2 года назад +10

      If t want socialism go to a country with it and leave us alone.

    • @objectdefiance4027
      @objectdefiance4027 2 года назад +4

      @@shawndyer8140 People who believe socialism will make their country better have an inalienable right to propagate it and try to bring it about. Just as the American revolutionaries wanted freedom from Britain and they made it their right.

    • @megancrager4397
      @megancrager4397 2 года назад +3

      Could never work now. Everyone wants to be an authoritarian.

    • @objectdefiance4027
      @objectdefiance4027 2 года назад +2

      @@megancrager4397 Best argument I've ever seen. You'll notice companies are getting stronger and more powerful yes? When your working in a country owned by a company being payed company money that doesn't work in any country other than the company you'll wish the socialists or at least the social Democrats had won.

    • @johayes7529
      @johayes7529 2 года назад

      @@shawndyer8140 oh lol ya sound like your cooked too!

  • @stanleygoss5922
    @stanleygoss5922 2 года назад +7

    Just happened upon this jewel. Thanks for the upload. I learned a lot from this.

  • @albatross5466
    @albatross5466 2 года назад +27

    WWI was not a good time to be German. Which is why the British monarchy changed their family name from Gotha to Windsor, which is a completely fictitious name.

    • @BartJBols
      @BartJBols 2 года назад +1

      All names are fictitious... What does that even mean.

    • @albatross5466
      @albatross5466 2 года назад +3

      @@BartJBols Poorly worded on my part. I meant that they didn't adopt it from a cousins family or anything like that. They just pulled it out of thin air to hide their German heritage.

    • @tommytrinder.1226
      @tommytrinder.1226 2 года назад +3

      Saxe Coburg to Windsor.

    • @yvettemoore1228
      @yvettemoore1228 2 года назад

      It’s where the castle is. There are plenty of people called Windsor. It’s no different than what many immigrants to the US did when they arrived at Ellis Island 🤔

    • @yvettemoore1228
      @yvettemoore1228 2 года назад +5

      Saxe-Coburg-Gotha so you’re both right

  • @1Letter23Numbers.
    @1Letter23Numbers. 2 года назад +13

    This was a wonderful presentation, thank you!

  • @abrahamanthony7106
    @abrahamanthony7106 2 года назад +38

    Social programs, working with capitalism, sounds like a Social Democracy. I think this is what most people in America that support Socialism think of.

    • @ryctohernadez9135
      @ryctohernadez9135 2 года назад +3

      Or other people think it's paying 60% tax from your earnings for other people's stuff and another 25% sales tax like in the "socialized countries " so you get to keep only 15% of your earnings
      Sounds great if you know about that
      Sounds great also when people work fast food at those countries and make 25 bucks an hour but after taxes it's acutely nothing and a big Mac meal over there is over 20 bucks so after working all day and after taxes you can buy one big Mac meal

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +5

      Most socialist orgs like unions became totally corrupted and useless like the teachers Union etc… now it’s more like a mob organization… 🤮

    • @gtpbird
      @gtpbird 2 года назад +8

      @@ryctohernadez9135 which country has a 60% tax rate?

    • @paulearle5361
      @paulearle5361 2 года назад +12

      @@ryctohernadez9135 You seem to have made up these figures to defend a predetermined bias. I have travelled all over Europe and the UK and I live in Canada, a democratic socialist country. Your figures seem grossly exaggerated to make some kind of derogatory point about socialism. Minimum wage in Canada is $15/hr not $25 and for 2 Big Mac meals we pay about 22 bucks. Income tax is a sliding scale based on income between 15-33% and goods and services are 13%. Many things are exempt from tax including food.

    • @ryctohernadez9135
      @ryctohernadez9135 2 года назад +2

      @@gtpbird Denmark Finland those European socialized countries have a tax rate from 50 to 60 % income tax for everyone

  • @KarlMarkyMarxx
    @KarlMarkyMarxx 2 года назад +5

    Socialism doesn't demand government ownership. Socialism's goal is *WORKER* ownership of the means of production i.e. "workplace democracy."

    • @Kunfucious577
      @Kunfucious577 2 года назад

      Except most socialists don’t like to work

    • @gpcampello
      @gpcampello 2 года назад +4

      finally found someone saying this, it is very misleading and even lazy to say socialism is BIG GOVERNMENT, when the state is only a temporary tool. Its all about workers.

    • @Kunfucious577
      @Kunfucious577 2 года назад

      @@gpcampello sorry but that’s not going to work. Only the inexperienced could think it could. Any organization worth a damn needs a hierarchy. This includes businesses, countries, families, etc. Someone needs to be in control over decisions that need to be followed so that chaos is avoided. Without someone in control, nobody would follow the socialist rules of when, where, how and why to work, and they definitely won’t follow how much, and what they deserve to get compensated. No one will work harder because the community is short in supply and they certainly won’t take less for community either.
      Socialist pretend their beliefs are righteous cause they keep their comrades in mind. Bs. What socialists really think is that they’ll get more rations for less work once their government is in place. The idea is that their comrades will do the work they don’t want to. Problem is that all socialists think this and shortages will start just like it is now. Eventually, they take the guns out, lock the borders and force people to work.

    • @proletariennenaturiste
      @proletariennenaturiste Год назад +1

      There can be forms of socialism with government ownership, but that's not the only form, it's just a theoretical concept of a working class government acting on behalf of the workers in that case, that is what many past Socialist countries had, but there were ones like Yugoslavia and such.

  • @darrenmorgan870
    @darrenmorgan870 2 года назад +13

    A couple of 100 years behind that small island, that had major changes with the treatment of its workers etc, sewage problems in London got sorted when the upper crust people in the houses of Parliament couldn't take the smell anymore, so it then got sorted, around the late 1800s
    But that was only afew years after this group called the Romans had sorted the same problems out,

  • @proletariennenaturiste
    @proletariennenaturiste Год назад +3

    Cool, if I was a mayor I would know I probably wouldn't be able to accomplish much given the systemic confines and national and provincial level, but I would try to improve the conditions of the vast majority of people within a city.

  • @Ashdad99
    @Ashdad99 2 года назад +8

    Berger being arrested and sentenced sort of reminds me of Julian Assange. Its a shame the incremental change hadn't continued, if so we may have a more equitable country today. Instead we vote for someone like Hillary Clinton or Trump when we could have a Bernie Sanders. Working people today vote against their own self interest and it shows that McCarthyism is alive and well.

    • @kcatleticos
      @kcatleticos 2 года назад +2

      Bernie Sanders is not a Socialist-- He is a Communist..

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams7440 2 года назад +4

    My Uncle was a German plumber lived in Milwaukee. He as always asking if you wanted a beer

  • @Natalietrans
    @Natalietrans Год назад +3

    I mean here in ct we have towns with socialist mayors. Socialism isn’t that extreme

  • @DavidUrbinaFitness
    @DavidUrbinaFitness 2 года назад +4

    Excellent documentary and also showcases the benefits of socialism is also good to learn about American history❗big like on the video 📚

  • @MrSloppyLoppy
    @MrSloppyLoppy 2 года назад +5

    Amazing information to allow the future to actually prosper instead of looking at the negative without losing the power of your own rights that historically were fought for and twisted though the war was won but the fight was never going to be over. War never ends and this just shows what happened after all those people came from.

  • @noxirs7059
    @noxirs7059 2 года назад +13

    History repeats itself

    • @stevenschnelz6944
      @stevenschnelz6944 2 года назад +5

      You wish! The Democrats are social democrats, not socialists and socialists are not communists.

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 2 года назад +8

      @@stevenschnelz6944 “The goal of socialism.. is communism!”

    • @willbe5994
      @willbe5994 2 года назад +3

      @@darthsilversith667 that’s like saying the goal of a lemon is to be an orange 😂😂 get a grip

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 2 года назад +3

      @@willbe5994 You should google who it was that said that lol

  • @hector_3o
    @hector_3o 2 года назад +28

    More than a socialist period, I would call it "A German efficiency period"

    • @willbe5994
      @willbe5994 2 года назад +9

      @@nigelcraig3949 not the same thing. There are about a gazillion docs on that entirely different subject.

  • @AMX86
    @AMX86 2 года назад +24

    Yup. Milwaukee had 40 years of socialism government 1920- 60. They did some good things for infrastructure, water, sewer and general health.

    • @Charles-pf7zy
      @Charles-pf7zy 2 года назад +1

      @Jacques Guerrier we need that again

  • @lamalama9717
    @lamalama9717 2 года назад +9

    Impressive how long the Socialists maintained influence there. Their eventual decline seems to have come partly from being successful and partly from having their ideas co-opted.
    Parsons was an Anarchist rather than a Socialist. Its true the lines were somewhat blurred compared to today, but its an important distinction.

    • @asurrealistworld4412
      @asurrealistworld4412 2 года назад +3

      But anarchists did refer to themselves as socialists as well.

    • @lamalama9717
      @lamalama9717 2 года назад +1

      @@asurrealistworld4412 yes, they are a subset of socialists but given the way the 20th century became dominated by authoritarian strands of socialism that tried to eliminate Anarchists both literally and in terms of historiography, its important to name Anarchists as such.

  • @lhasaroadrat9374
    @lhasaroadrat9374 2 года назад +2

    Socialist Gus Newport was the Mayor of Berkeley, California over three decades ago.

  • @thestreamoflife1124
    @thestreamoflife1124 2 года назад +3

    Definitely the best I've seen.

  • @CaliforniaFarmGirl
    @CaliforniaFarmGirl 2 года назад +21

    Let’s have socialism but not actually do socialism but call it socialism. Yay socialism!

    • @stevenschnelz6944
      @stevenschnelz6944 2 года назад +6

      No. Do socialism. You know, where the people run things instead of the big corporations.

    • @admiralfloofz658
      @admiralfloofz658 2 года назад +9

      @@stevenschnelz6944 You mean when the goverment runs everything instead of the cooperations. Where businesses dont compete with eachother and the state has complete monopoly on EVERYTHING and can put any price they want.
      There are 4 current socialist states right now. China, Vietnam, Cuba and Lao. How well off do you think the population is?
      People are very good at confusing social democracy with actual socialism. Trust me you DO NOT want socialism.

    • @danielalvarez-galan3702
      @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад +2

      America is a corporate oligarchy, imperialist state.

    • @reecedrystek2992
      @reecedrystek2992 2 года назад

      @@stevenschnelz6944 Hmm, it's called democratic government. You like act like 150 million people didn't vote in the last election.

    • @Skeletron1000
      @Skeletron1000 2 года назад +3

      ​@@admiralfloofz658 There are many different types of socialism. You have 3 basic types, democratic socialism (similar to what's shown in this video, and what is also traditionally called European Socialism (highly regulated private industry with a robust government). The soviet model (government control of most industry) , and the worker - coop model (which seeks to bring democracy to the workplace)
      There is also the Chiense Model. China learned from the failures of the soviet Union. And has a mix of government industries and highly regulated private industry. (it's also the top contender to the United States at the moment)
      Why do you also fail to mention Germany (the largest economy in Europe), Chile, India, Bangladesh or Portugal?
      The leading party in Germany is the social democrats. (Which traditionally was the socialist party) The parties programme adopted in 2007, specifically lists the promotion of democratic socialism.

  • @danielalvarez-galan3702
    @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад +13

    Now I need a documentary focusing on the old IWW and radical left movement from 1860-1970.

  • @td7363
    @td7363 2 года назад

    Thankyou for more very interesting content.

  • @gus3247365
    @gus3247365 2 года назад +2

    The government should be there for the people, that they represent .. not the reverse. Others greed destroyed the foundation of what was intended to be America

  • @ThaSchwab
    @ThaSchwab 2 года назад +4

    As a classical music fan from the greater Milwaukee area, all I have to say is that it's astounding how such a German city, one that put a large focus on community entertainment in the first half of the 20th century, did not have its own full-time symphony orchestra until 1959, the latest of all major cities.

    • @lenvm
      @lenvm Год назад

      German music is historically much more than just classical

  • @davidswift7776
    @davidswift7776 2 года назад +10

    A positive and pragmatic insight of successful socialism.
    WW1 , not a good time for German support .

  • @kevinpoole4323
    @kevinpoole4323 2 года назад

    Thank You Daniel

  • @mrsoshadabaadman
    @mrsoshadabaadman 2 года назад +2

    The word socialism to some people in the west illicits a Pavlovian-esque response.

  • @charlescanzater
    @charlescanzater 2 года назад +11

    Wonderful people doing great things for each other !

  • @LuisDiuk
    @LuisDiuk 2 года назад +6

    That wasn't Socialism, just social measures on top of Capitalism

    • @gunfighterzero
      @gunfighterzero 2 года назад

      Bingo

    • @samhwwg
      @samhwwg 2 года назад

      Exactly. Every socialistic country suck.

  • @franciscojose6496
    @franciscojose6496 2 года назад

    The best channel really direction for pure reality world history congratulation

  • @franciscojose6496
    @franciscojose6496 2 года назад

    Great channel let's go

  • @roymaduro571
    @roymaduro571 2 года назад +4

    I think a little socialism would be good for the USA

    • @HT-lr1rs
      @HT-lr1rs 2 года назад

      I believe you are referring to social democracy?

    • @roymaduro571
      @roymaduro571 2 года назад

      As I said, a little socialism, whatever tag you want to put on it. Everybody has a right to enjoy the fruits of progress, not only the super rich

    • @HT-lr1rs
      @HT-lr1rs 2 года назад

      @@roymaduro571 no no that is social democracy, you cannot have a 'little socialism'.
      I respect your arguement however

  • @grantsapain
    @grantsapain 2 года назад +5

    America does it all the time. Been to Portland, San Francisco, or Seattle lately...

    • @keithcalvosa5894
      @keithcalvosa5894 2 года назад +1

      Derp derp derp ever been to Charleston or Omaha they have nothing

  • @catherineannemccloskey-ros9500
    @catherineannemccloskey-ros9500 19 дней назад

    I met Zeidler at a Socialist Party event. He should have been an icon.

  • @oleplanthafer7034
    @oleplanthafer7034 2 года назад

    Just commenting to push this program... 👍

  • @anahata2009
    @anahata2009 2 года назад +6

    Strictly speaking, socialism doesn't require government ownership of factories. It's public ownership (i.e. the people) managed by an elected government. Don't confuse communism and socialism.

  • @tessjuel
    @tessjuel 2 года назад +5

    1:18 "The purest socialism is the government's ownership of the means of production." That is so totally wrong and if that is what Americans think socialism means, there's no wonder they're against it.
    Socialism actually started as a reaction against the sll powerful governments in late 18th Century Europe and it's all about distribution of wealth and power. The government may well be in charge of managing most of it but if so, there will always be *very* strong checks and balances to keep it honest.

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 2 года назад

      We do not want anymore Socialism or Socialist policies within our Country or Government... THE END.

    • @productive_citizen
      @productive_citizen 2 года назад +3

      ​@@ALIENDNA14 Speak for yourself Alien Dna 14

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 2 года назад

      @@productive_citizen
      I'm speaking for everyone that hates Socialism, and that also wants nothing to do with your destructive ideology...

  • @kidkous
    @kidkous 2 года назад +2

    Parsons was more in the Anarchist camp by 1880

  • @weisemari
    @weisemari 2 года назад +1

    Danke!

  • @byronwoolley565
    @byronwoolley565 2 года назад +11

    Wow. I know about Socialism and the Progressive Movement. I am very impressed with this presentation. It makes me want to move to Milwaukee

    • @stevenschnelz6944
      @stevenschnelz6944 2 года назад +21

      I live in Milwaukee. We are now in a right-wing nightmare because of our GOP state legislature. Give me socialism before fascism any day.

    • @Dontdoit_
      @Dontdoit_ 2 года назад +2

      @@stevenschnelz6944 i she’s a tear for you my friend

    • @MichaelDodge27
      @MichaelDodge27 2 года назад

      @@stevenschnelz6944 Hello fellow Milwaukeean!

    • @bobnix3240
      @bobnix3240 2 года назад +5

      @@stevenschnelz6944 Fascism is just a variety of socialism. That's why the guys discussed in this video and those nasty German dudes from the 1930's both called it National Socialism. It's collectivist ideology with top down government control and a planned economy, but national rather than international in nature and in partnership with existing corporate interests instead of burning it all down like other socialist flavors, exactly like this video describes.

    • @bandbyoneMIDI
      @bandbyoneMIDI 2 года назад +6

      @@stevenschnelz6944
      My friend you have no idea of you are wishing upon you and your love ones.Trust this 60 year old man that had to flee with it's entire family.
      That is the problem today in America , lots of talking heads with no real information
      Have you heard about firing squads? did you know that what you just posted here could get you 10 years in jail if you had enough courage to post it on a national socialist publication? in a real Socialist controlled society ? forget Milwaukee , that's no it. Try that in " El Granma " in Havana , I bet you my house that before you even finish your last sentence you'll have the G2 knocking to take you away ...forever...yep..inform yourself my friend and be grateful to have been born in this great and kind nation.

  • @MrTryAnotherOne
    @MrTryAnotherOne 2 года назад +8

    40:00 On the freeway part:
    So essentially socialism works best in a closed society while an open society drains the wealth from a socialist community. Interesting. What does that tell us about globalisation?

    • @goldenambience7346
      @goldenambience7346 2 года назад +3

      I think the point here would be that it didn't work when the freeways opened up is because the rest of the country was the antithesis of Milwaukee. More closed minded and scared of what they didn't really understand.

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +2

      @@goldenambience7346 all people are different… including their minds and goals…

    • @robi6317
      @robi6317 2 года назад

      how are we not already globalised?

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +1

      @@robi6317 thanks to God!!! we don’t need that globalism catastrophe on us.. 🇺🇸

  • @franciscojose6496
    @franciscojose6496 2 года назад +1

    Information now very amanzing channel congratulation

  • @proletariennenaturiste
    @proletariennenaturiste Год назад +1

    Explain though what would be wrong with government ownership of the means of production, obviously that is essentially unachievable within a capitalist country as it would be considered "interfering in free market and right to enterprise and private property."

  • @davidnord1979
    @davidnord1979 2 года назад +5

    Once upon a time there was a country called America.......

  • @rent7142
    @rent7142 2 года назад +4

    What happened to 🇺🇸, BRING BACK SOCIALISM

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 2 года назад

      DEATH TO SOCIALISM!!!

  • @hellokintu
    @hellokintu 2 года назад

    Excellent

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 2 года назад

    Very good

  • @houseplant1016
    @houseplant1016 2 года назад +8

    Why do Americans hate socialism that much?

    • @TheExplorder
      @TheExplorder 2 года назад +3

      @@jimbecker6599 RUclips comments always are a mess, but the reactions underneeth this docu... Jeez. All these fools thinking Stalinism equals Socialism.

    • @dogstar7
      @dogstar7 2 года назад

      We don't. Our bully brother-in-laws and our bosses and their lackeys do We're just told to and the lowbrow implied threat is supposed to be funny. Haha, right?

    • @danielalvarez-galan3702
      @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад +1

      Americans were born and bred to oppose Marxist and Anarchist thought. It’s a prevailing almost all encompassing thing it’s in the schooling, the media, your workplaces. Like for example in my history class,I was taught that anarchists are crazy terrorists who want to destroy civilization, but when I get out of school and I talk to an anarchist it turns out they are decent people who love freedom but hate unjustified hierarchy, and just want a horizontally organized society for society.

    • @danielalvarez-galan3702
      @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад

      @@TheExplorder Stalinism is still preferable to whatever Gorbachev was peddling in the 1980’s and 90s.

    • @kabiam
      @kabiam 2 года назад

      Fewer profits for lobbyists, corporate elites and corrupt government officials.

  • @kiwibob223
    @kiwibob223 2 года назад +16

    "Socialism
    noun
    a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
    Even America regulates production, distribution and exchange.
    It's all relative, in other more developed countries we even regulate these things for the benefit of the people.
    America is more inclined to regulate for the benefit of the top ten percent.

    • @danielalvarez-galan3702
      @danielalvarez-galan3702 2 года назад +6

      Then America isn’t socialist because nothing is decommodified, means of production aren’t owned by the public, wage labor still exists, etc. What you really live is a free market society with some red tape here and there.

    • @kiwibob223
      @kiwibob223 2 года назад

      @@danielalvarez-galan3702 I don't understand the point you are trying to get across.

    • @revolutionarymarxist-lenin7252
      @revolutionarymarxist-lenin7252 2 года назад

      Top One*

    • @wesbaumguardner8829
      @wesbaumguardner8829 2 года назад

      That is not how socialism turns out in the long run. The government claims to be the people and claims to own everything eventually. Of course, it isn't that different than what we presently have, which is a hybrid of corporatism and socialism.

    • @kiwibob223
      @kiwibob223 2 года назад

      @@wesbaumguardner8829
      Where are you referring too?
      It actually is the exact opposite in most places.

  • @badguy5554
    @badguy5554 2 месяца назад

    A Major Question: Carl Zeigler was RAISED in a Socialist family. HIs Socialist brother, Frank, became mayor after Carl was killed in WWII. So there's always the question: WAS Carl ALSO a Socialist (albeit a "closet" Socialist)? In other words, Milwaukee MAY have had more than 3 Socialist mayors...it PROBABLY had 4! I had a nice talk with Frank, over 20 years after he had left office. He was attending a social gathering of Chinese Americans in Milwaukee. What a guy! Even after 20 years OUT of office, he still had that ferver for the "mixing" of Milwaukee's population.

  • @callmekensei2799
    @callmekensei2799 Год назад +1

    People are the most valuable resource and we should treat them as such. Hail to the Human race.

  • @robertnemecek2144
    @robertnemecek2144 2 года назад +5

    Sounds like German efficiency to me.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 года назад +1

      Socialism is an economic model.

    • @CodeineRadick
      @CodeineRadick 2 года назад +2

      @@bighands69 Actually it is a political model because the economic engine must be run by the body politic.

  • @nosondre
    @nosondre 2 года назад +4

    I’ve been in the twilight zone or something. Why is this the first time I’m hearing about this? Oh I know why……. Capitalism. Capitalism is corruption’s best friend

    • @wendigo2442
      @wendigo2442 2 года назад +2

      Almost like the #1 way to rise up in a capitalist system is to treat people and the environment like dogshit because it’s efficient and easy

    • @davidlindsay9564
      @davidlindsay9564 2 года назад

      ...and death best friend is socialism.

    • @wendigo2442
      @wendigo2442 2 года назад +1

      @@davidlindsay9564 yeah if the capitalists smell you

  • @maxdoubled4800
    @maxdoubled4800 4 дня назад

    Milwaukee makes beer cause you'd have to be drunk to live there...

  • @bssn9469
    @bssn9469 2 года назад +1

    Top notch episode! Thanks!

  • @nosnibor800
    @nosnibor800 2 года назад +21

    Very interesting. I thought socialism was a dirty word in the USA - I lived in Illinois for two years. My view now is that politics should be syncretic and not tribal with fixed idea parties. I have some socialist views and some right wing capitalist views, based on logic not tribalism. In the UK the NHS has its faults but is a great system of medicine in which everyone is looked after from cradle to grave. In the US they call this social medicine; if you don't work for a large corporation and can't afford huge insurance premiums, then you suffer or die.

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +2

      Socialism that leads to communism is a dirty word… some social reforms that are totally abused today ex. payments to Illegals proved to be a failure …

    • @nosnibor800
      @nosnibor800 2 года назад +4

      @@dusa5918 Yes it is subject to abuse. For example the NHS pays Nurses a lousy salary. So they leave and become freelance working through agencies - who are full of corruption, who give "back handers" to people in the NHS and government. It has to be policed but it is still a fine system. Compared to the way things were before WW2, where poor people suffered because they could not afford to "get the doctor in"

    • @1Letter23Numbers.
      @1Letter23Numbers. 2 года назад +3

      So many illegals pay taxes and don't file for returns so it balances out in the end. Breaking the law is never ok, however.

    • @HT-lr1rs
      @HT-lr1rs 2 года назад +2

      You argue for liberal not socialist aspects. A Social Democracy per say. Where the government acts as an enabling state but allows the market to do its thing.

    • @dusa5918
      @dusa5918 2 года назад +2

      You lack experience living in socialist country… but you can make it happen by living in Venezuela or Cuba or Belarus… good luck 🤣

  • @dicktipton5912
    @dicktipton5912 2 года назад +5

    Carl Zeidler was a true hero. What a great man. RIP

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams7440 2 года назад +2

    You haven't mentioned how much taxes were raised for all these Parks

    • @davidleaman6801
      @davidleaman6801 2 года назад +1

      Hey even if the taxes were high, at least the people got things that they needed. Unlike today.

  • @samypushpam9368
    @samypushpam9368 2 года назад +1

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  • @Justusracers
    @Justusracers 2 года назад +3

    The year was 2022 and the city was new york city.

  • @AntonArmsberg
    @AntonArmsberg 2 года назад +4

    Social-Democracy is the best of both worlds, that's why so many european countries have adopted this model in one way or another.

    • @HT-lr1rs
      @HT-lr1rs 2 года назад +2

      Socialists and Capitalists would argue with you on that point. I come from one of them and they are better then the Americans but many end up in a cycle of a left wing party giving people rights, right wing party removing them rights and securities and then repeat. Look at the United Kingdom for example.

    • @CodeineRadick
      @CodeineRadick 2 года назад +1

      @@HT-lr1rs The left wing and right wing of Europe does not translate to left and right wing of America.
      In Europe the Left wing wants international socialism and the right wants national socialism. Both systems want power centralized in to government and away from individuals.
      American left wing is just "Power to Government" and right wing is "Power to Individuals".
      Too often people confuse the two different definitions.

    • @HT-lr1rs
      @HT-lr1rs 2 года назад +1

      @@CodeineRadick the right dont want national socialism, they want Neo-Liberal conservatism

    • @christiansoldier77
      @christiansoldier77 2 года назад

      Anton A Social-Democracy is the same as Socialism . Changing the name doesnt make it different

  • @becomingabraxas9969
    @becomingabraxas9969 Год назад +1

    There is a good book called the Meritocratic Manifesto, by Another Citizen that outlines great ideas like this.
    Awesome. We need these types of policies, today. Who cares what is called! Democratic Socialist, social capitalism, Meritocratic socialism, socialism... It's for the people!

  • @Agustin1409
    @Agustin1409 2 года назад

    Is there a copy with spanish sub titles?

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang 2 года назад +5

    San Francisco has had a few including the current mayor.

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  • @JM-pi2cu
    @JM-pi2cu 2 года назад

    Although to This Day, if your a Car Salesman/Saleswoman you Do Not have an 8 hour workday EVER and most of the time Over 12 hours.. But the worst is that if you dont sell, then you Will NOT get even minimum wage. Any pay, which is less than minimum wage anyway, that you do get, will be taken out of your future pay.

  • @ahellooo
    @ahellooo 2 года назад +1

    That was simply efficient,responsible, honest and, humane government. I don't think this has anything to do with ideology. That wad just a loose label.

  • @DavidLJarvis
    @DavidLJarvis 2 года назад +11

    Bernie Sanders elected mayor of Burlington, Vermont in 1981. April 6th 1981 inaugurated. What rock have you been living under?

    • @maoistapessimista
      @maoistapessimista 2 года назад +6

      Bernie isn't a socialist, he's a social democrat.

    • @Christymerferd
      @Christymerferd 2 года назад +5

      @@maoistapessimista Bernie is a Marxist who lived off Welfare with his wife and child until he was in his mid 30s. Slime.

    • @DavidLJarvis
      @DavidLJarvis 2 года назад +1

      @@maoistapessimista That is NOT where he started. Watch the link I've posted.

    • @DavidLJarvis
      @DavidLJarvis 2 года назад +1

      @@Christymerferd I'm just posting a "fact". However you feel about him is your business. I have no personal feelings about it.

    • @Dontdoit_
      @Dontdoit_ 2 года назад +7

      @@Christymerferd yea that’s a lie

  • @tommytrinder.1226
    @tommytrinder.1226 2 года назад +8

    One criticism of this program...there is not one dissenting voice.Every single last opinion voiced here tells us...with wonderful,inspiring music...how wonderful everything was under Socialism.Are other opinions not permitted?

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 2 года назад +3

      That would go against the narrative.

    • @alexnelson5662
      @alexnelson5662 2 года назад

      "Are other opinions not permitted?"
      Wow.

    • @CodeineRadick
      @CodeineRadick 2 года назад

      That is how the system works. Everyone loves utopia.
      "Not me!"
      *bang*
      Everyone loves utopia.

  • @mrs6968
    @mrs6968 2 года назад

    414 loud and proud thank you for this

  • @scottthompson8561
    @scottthompson8561 2 года назад +2

    Make America Socialist Again!

  • @darthsilversith667
    @darthsilversith667 2 года назад +3

    It wasn’t the last time either. I miss the days where being a communist in America was illegal.

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 2 года назад +16

    The comments on this should be interesting, Expect uneducated comments

    • @charlesmills6621
      @charlesmills6621 2 года назад +3

      You are absolutely correct. See TRAPPED's comment.

    • @theswampcleaner3856
      @theswampcleaner3856 2 года назад +6

      Let me guess, you'll be doing all the gatekeeping? Difference of opinion doesn't equal "uneducated" it just means you don't like it.

    • @TihetrisWeathersby
      @TihetrisWeathersby 2 года назад +7

      @@theswampcleaner3856
      So Swamp cleaner, Is America great again yet?

    • @theswampcleaner3856
      @theswampcleaner3856 2 года назад +1

      @@TihetrisWeathersby It was getting there, till Brandon showed up

    • @TihetrisWeathersby
      @TihetrisWeathersby 2 года назад +4

      @@theswampcleaner3856
      Lmao

  • @MrBillcale
    @MrBillcale 9 месяцев назад

    as long as the catch can catch mice

  • @anyanyanyanyanyany3551
    @anyanyanyanyanyany3551 Год назад

    I think communitarianism might fit the label better.

  • @miriambertram2448
    @miriambertram2448 2 года назад +18

    ROFL We know how it works. We are living it.

    • @maoistapessimista
      @maoistapessimista 2 года назад +14

      are you serious

    • @blackr0se
      @blackr0se 2 года назад +2

      @@maoistapessimista please wake up. yes. socialism is on all government official.

    • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
      @ComradeCatpurrnicus 2 года назад +8

      ROFL you're exactly the type of person that has no idea what Socialism is.

    • @maoistapessimista
      @maoistapessimista 2 года назад +8

      @@blackr0se Are you braindead or am i missing something? I think socialism means a planned closed economy controlled by the state, not a neoliberal free market jungle that favours billionaires over the homelessness crisis

    • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
      @ComradeCatpurrnicus 2 года назад +2

      @@maoistapessimista controlled by the people

  • @alexanderdiaz0512
    @alexanderdiaz0512 2 года назад +5

    I havent watched it yet. And I will edit if my mind changes after. Socialism always works when its backed up by Capitalism. Now let me go watch.

    • @chrisboyer2195
      @chrisboyer2195 2 года назад +3

      I’m excited to see what you have to say

    • @valiantredneck
      @valiantredneck 2 года назад +1

      @@chrisboyer2195
      I’m not.
      Couldn’t care less.

    • @HandleHandled
      @HandleHandled 2 года назад

      So far, seems that Milwaukee invented modern society! Whodathunkit??

  • @50megatondiplomat28
    @50megatondiplomat28 2 года назад +1

    Many kinds of government can be successful IF, IF, the politicians entrusted with power run their constituencies with honesty, integrity and compassion. However, there are virtually no systems of government that can succeed when corruption, dishonesty, and spite for your constituents are your characteristics. This is getting to be a severe problem in the US; the voters keep wondering what structure will make the system better, when in reality, none of them will succeed with people like the Washington establishment running things.

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 2 года назад +2

      That's a very wise analysis, of the situation; however, the problem with Socialism and particularly of the Marxist variety is that, it's also based upon an atheistic rejection of God and morality ( in favor of some vague notion of Marxist Materialism)...

  • @jlp001
    @jlp001 2 года назад

    It’s more like the Hulu for history

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 2 года назад +12

    Too bad those days are over, In Milwaukee Socialism did great things

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 года назад

      It was not socialism.

  • @carlousmagus5387
    @carlousmagus5387 2 года назад +10

    I hope this isn't another hit peice on Socialism; I'ts tiresome watching Capitalism blame it's failures on Socialism.

    • @wauliepalnuts6134
      @wauliepalnuts6134 2 года назад +3

      *_SOVIET UNION: "HOLD MY STATE PRODUCED BEER."_*

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 2 года назад +1

      And vice versa lol. Capitalism is far more successful than socialism is.

    • @robi6317
      @robi6317 2 года назад

      @@darthsilversith667 we could just blend the two, first we have to get everyone to pay their fair share of taxes

    • @CodeineRadick
      @CodeineRadick 2 года назад

      @@robi6317 What is a fair share?

    • @robi6317
      @robi6317 2 года назад

      @@CodeineRadick whatever their tax bracket is. right now billionaires live off of loans not salary therefore they can avoid income taxes altogether, otherwise they'd prob pay 30-50%

  • @ramuz-ff3cf
    @ramuz-ff3cf 4 месяца назад

    verdadero mucho gracias

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 2 года назад

    Wisconsin, a State apart.
    Go The Cheeseheads! (next year now...)