Tesla Drops BOMBSHELL on Trucking Industry
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- According to industry "experts", Tesla's Semi truck, envisioned by Elon Musk, was once considered a fantasy but is now becoming a disruptive reality. Tesla's NEW factory in Nevada aims to produce 50,000 units annually, significantly impacting the trucking industry. With early deliveries to Pepsi and other companies like Walmart, Tesla is keeping many specifications secret to maintain a competitive edge. The upcoming Semi Truck 2.0 promises even more advanced features. Dan Priestly, head of Semi Truck Engineering, highlights the vehicle's impressive range, weight, and potential to save $200,000 in fuel costs over three years, marking a significant shift towards electric trucks in commercial transportation. #ElonMusk #Tesla #teslasemitruck
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As investors its great the way Tesla grieung under Elon's plans like robots, fsd and in future semi as well. This is all going with Ai help. But wait didn't Elon also warn that Ai is far dangerous then we think? On other hand he's leading tesla company with Ai and robots. One way he said human are in dangerou because of low birth rate in other hand his plan to steal all human jobs with robots so is he helping humans or just playing ?
@@BuildingFortune "But wait didn't Elon also warn that Ai is far dangerous then we think? On other hand he's leading tesla company with Ai and robots."
AI and robots will be built regardless, so if you are concerned about it do it yourself.
"One way he said human are in dangerou because of low birth rate in other hand his plan to steal all human jobs with robots so is he helping humans or just playing ?"
If people have to work less they will have more time to make children.
@@yourcrazybear 🤣🤣🤣
Autonomous transport will change the world.
Just consider the Cross-Bronx Expressway (LOL) on a normal weekday. Thousands of commercial trucks clog the short trek from New Jersey to the East end of the Expressway. The Road is always jammed (It is often referred to as the longest parking lot in the world) and these trucks spew enormous amounts of pollution into the air of New York. The improvement in New York's air by the Tesla truck could be amplified throughout the nation by adoption of this technology and the resulting improvement in air quality.
Great presentation but, knowing Elon Musk, it's best to wait for reality when it's in front of us.
The obvious place to build chargers would be at shipping and receiving docks right on the loading dock so the truck can charge while sitting for those tasks. I could imagine a system of discounts for facilities willing to make the investment.
It would save time for sure, but those chargers are very expensive, and need big power. I can see it at an Amazon warehouse, but not at some little business with one or two docks and no electric trucks.
Warehouses and distribution centres have large roof space for solar.👍🏽
It is battery needed. @@malcolmrickarby2313
@@fjalics you would have to build more electrical plants and infrastructure to have that much power at every building ....the writing is on the wall no one is listening
the electric mandate will cut the throats of the countries that mandate it.... Meanwhile 75% of the world that produces good have absolutely Zero emission standards even the ones mining them batteries out of the ground ....
Today trucks wait hours to load/unload at ports. Parking lots with chargers and a place in line counter would serve double purpose.
Garbage in garbage out. Peterbilt and Kenworth will always have a loyal customer base
Don't forget that when more electricity is needed the more it will cost. Just like anything else when the demand goes up the price goes up.
This simple fact that the Tesla Semi has thousands of fewer parts makes it a much more reliable form of transport.
No only that.
The Semi has system redundancy.
3 motors?
But it can run on 1.
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System detects a fault (before the driver is aware)
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It reports to the driver AND the service team, who then call the driver.
They confirm load and distance to next stop.
(The truck has calculated the range based on the new conditions and route terrain)
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When satisfied that the truck has shut down the faulty drive and can make it to the next stop, they arrange for a technician (driving a short range Semi, with a full workshop on board) to meet at that location and repair the truck while the driver rests.
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Result,
Zero downtime.
It may come to fruition once a viable, light weight and low cost battery is developed. Lithium is not the answer.
Yup just needs a fantasy battery to go with it's fantasy chargers and fantasy grid capacity.
It's certainly good enough to get the revolution underway with early adopters. In a few years solid state batteries will take it to the next level.
Lithium is very light and I do not think it is a problem, the problem is that the electrolyte can not be a waterbased, to get the polvoltage of 3 to 4 volt, you have to use some flamable electrolyte.
Waterbased electrolyte dont give more than ca 2 volt per cell.
@@stigbengtsson7026 Learn some chemistry! It's the anode and cathode compositions that gives the the battery voltage not the electrolyte.
@@thamesmud this is not the whole thing, the electrolyte is seen as the heart of the battery, because its ability to let lithum ions migrate both in a charging an discharging process, it is true that there are experiments with nonorganic electrolytes, but both lithium and sodium reacts violently to water, so it is, as far as the many paper i have looked at, a complicated issue, looks like the carbonate electrolytics is sometime moore stabile.
But the future will tell. SB.
Europe is not the USA. The semi truck would be illegal here. We have alternative makers that have been making articulated lorries for many years and they are ahead of Tesla.
I live in Reno. But.. 3 years ago I got cancer, then 2 back surgeries later as well... I am now looking way downrange.. Back to work. I was most recently a professional driver, so, I think the job market is looking good for me! Tesla seems to be everywhere tho, 5 years ago I moved from San Jose, to Reno... lol
Friends, your daily reminder to VOTE YES and reinstate what Elon is owed and relocating the company to Texas. Pass it on! VOTE
Replacement battery packs like with fork lifts.
Just adds another layer of complexity to the engineering.
“By next year…”
Always "next year"
It`s already being used and it will get better otherwise we would still be driving Model T
@@Karl-Bennydefinitely by next year
Are we comparing
"What Elon Says" to
"We're all in on EVs/ NACS/ etc" from ... Ford, and others, becoming "We're pulling back" 6 months later??
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Really.
WHO has made promises, then produced ANY viable, competitive, profitable products other than Tesla?
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(And don't say BYD, they've relied on conversion of ICE factories designed for conversion, reducing the cost...... So far.
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If they start expanding elsewhere, their costs will rise)
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There's nobody with
Product
Volume
Profit
And if you really want to go there...
The production of support systems like charging, Battery storage, etc.
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The others (credit to BYD) are "assemblers" rather than Innovators.
Just remember we tow 3 or upto 4 semis here in Australia.
And the roads although are not only dirt but corrugated dirt roads
But you don't have weight and length limits then, so just add more batteries. It's not like diesel trucks don't burn much more fuel too, so the economics won't change.
It’s not that easy just to add more batteries.
The infrastructure to recharge here in Australia can be upto 2000 to 3050 kms between a decent size town that may or may not have a 🔌
I don't think Australia is on the radar for trucks.
Australia has less than 10% of the population of the US. The US has less than 25% of the population of China. Australia will have to take what they can get and make it work for them. In fact, Australia should consider scooping out a trench across the continent and allowing it to fill with ocean water that can be used to carry cargo vessels. Maybe people would be more willing to live in the interior.
@user-xg6vw2ro5b
Yeah a trailer that is 90% battery and 10% freight so it can travel the same distance as a normal truck.
The best thing about the Tesla Semi: the ability to go up steep grades without bogging down, a big problem with diesel trucks. That means a Tesla Semi with a fully loaded trailer will be able to maintain 55 mph (88.5 km/h) even going up steep grades like over Tejon Pass between Bakersfield and Los Angeles and Donner Pass between Sacramento and Reno.
Exactly. And the regen on the way down mountains is huge for recouping some of that energy. Diesel’s can’t do that. Then there’s the additional benefit of less wear on the brakes. Tesla’s Semi just makes so much sense.
I believe they're supposed to be able to easily maintain 65mph up a 5% grade with a max load.
But the batteries will go through Hell in temperature, but I'm sure there'll be a AC system embedded to keep them cool, zapping more power. Honestly, the only place electric powered transport suits is in trains, check out Tokyos train system, and there bullet trains, no battery's and no inefficiency or danger lugging them around
@@truhartwood3170 Well, it turns out I can answer that. Motor Matchup derived the physics of the Tesla Semi here: ruclips.net/video/zQDU9f4QTLk/видео.html, and with his permission I converted his findings into an Excel spreadsheet allowing calculations of the effect of a half-dozen or so variables on Tesla Semi performance. Using this, I can confirm that it takes 717 kW of battery power and 962 HP for a Tesla Semi to climb a 5% grade loaded to 82,000 lbs. at 65 MPH, both of which are within the capabilities of the Tesla Semi, although just barely.
@@BigBen621 cool!
The Tesla Semi truck will I believe be made in a fully self-driving version. That will indeed be a bombshell.
At least for the foreseeable future any FSD truck would be in a convoy with a driven "lead" truck.
You could have a "train" leaving a depot, with a lead, 5+ FSD, then a "trail" truck at the rear.
Drive the highway, as each FSD reaches the appropriate junction for its final location a driver takes over that unit.
The Convoy continues.
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One of the 2 "monitoring" drivers could be resting at any time, with their truck on temporary FSD.
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Those drivers would attend to any issues, plus charging.
The only bombshell will be its battery going into thermal run away
I think partnerships are not important at all(except for maintianing the secrets for now). If the financial businesscase for buying the semi is good(which it seems like it), everybody will line up to get one. And Tesla will end up selling as many as they can produce, partnerships or not.
Would be good to confirm Tesla is collecting data from Pepsi fleet and how far along they are with FSD models for tractor trailer rigs
Of course they are
Just think of the carnage a (supervised) full self driving truck of this size could cause.
@@thamesmud or more probable the carnage a FSD controlled semi could save!
@@mikebailey2970 That's why Tesla have to call it SUPERVISED self driving cause it's so good and reliable.
I'm not sure why the weight of the Semi is a surprise. I've done the math already in 2017 and easily got that in line with diesel trucks. The battery weight is around 5 tons even in the worst case. A big diesel powertrain weighs over 2 tons, and all of that comes out. So it's not a big difference to begin with. Then using what they learned with building cars, they should be able to shave off more weight from the truck itself, because the construction hasn't changed for decades.
My back-of-the-envelope calculation for the necessary battery capacity was 750kWh, which isn't far off.
So much for the "experts".
"Megachargers" could work like some existing "Cardlock" diesel locations.
CAN be unattended, "off-the-beaten-path" locations, although NOT as needed for noise control. You don't notice unattended Cardlocks because they are places where municipalities don't notice them.
Twenty-four hours.
Card access only; contract access only. If you don't have a card, the gates don't open and the chargers don't work.
Reduced cost power. You COULD use solar, or trickle-feed an onsite battery or a combination. Split the savings between cardlock operator and customer.
These things are everywhere already in diesel format. As soon as there is a profit margin for electric, they will sprout like mushrooms.
Don't forget that, according to CNBS, all the other semi and car manufacturers have a magic "catch-up-to-Tesla" button. And all they have to do is push this button and they are ahead of Tesla.
Sounds like a biden promise , you a dementia poorly formed and delivered lie!
It's interesting that they've had this button for decades but haven't decided to push it. Much discipline.
@@TMIOTesla The catch is that they can only press it once so they're waiting as long as possible for Tesla to do all the hard work. XD
Just a repeat of the "The Competition Is Coming for Tesla" we heard nonstop over a year and a half ago. But since Giga Texas opened and the Model Y rolled out, it became the best-selling car in the world. They now scream, "Nobody wants EVs."
It appears that Tesla is being very methodical in its approach to tackling this industry.
There's nothing to catch up to.
It's disruptive. Just wait until FSD is added to the semi. Then robo-semi.
So we're going to get FSD semi trucks, but some how automation of the rails is not possible or feasible? Watching the rolling overhead cranes pick a container off of a rail car is like watching paint dry. To me it seems we are automating the wrong mode of transportation for goods distribution.
@@michaelglenning5107 "So we're going to get FSD semi trucks, but some how automation of the rails is not possible or feasible? Watching the rolling overhead cranes pick a container off of a rail car is like watching paint dry."
Many things Tesla does was considered not possible or not feasible. Stagnant companies doesn't like to innovate.
"To me it seems we are automating the wrong mode of transportation for goods distribution."
Incorrect. Trying to squeeze all goods through one small transportation line is not a solution to anything. Having all trucks driving themselves wherever they need to go on the other hand is a disruption.
The last I heard, shipping, rail transportation, and trucks are compatible and useful where conditions dictate.
@yourcrazybear lawyers and insurance companies will shutdown robo trucks.
@@gooser__43 Nonsense. Self driving vehicles will cause fewer accidents.
I’m pretty sure Semi will get CATL cells, they are half the weight for the same range as the batteries in the Model Y.
This way they can put in a 700 mile pack that can charge to 500 miles with just an 80% charge.
And the Vehicle will be lighter and CATL is supposedly making cells at $56 per kWh right now.
Those cells can charge 500 miles in 15 minutes and have no range loss down to -4 degrees Fahrenheit.
CATL is currently putting these cells in
Yutong EV Busses and they are giving a 15 year/1.5M kM warranty.
CATL is currently setting up an assembly line in the Tesla giga factory in Texas to produce cells for Tesla.
These cells will allow Tesla to reduce the weight of the semi and offer more range which faster charging, and less cost
Or it may get the BYD cells, since BYD is looking for a US factory to build their blade-type battery cells.
Given that it's two years out and batteries are improving super fast, I don't think we can say which batteries it will be using. Tesla is hoping to have their in-house batteries cheaper than buying them from suppliers like BYD or CATL or Panasonic, etc.
WHICH CATL cells?
Have you looked at the CATL website? (I have)
@@rogerstarkey5390 see my comment.
@@truhartwood3170 CATL is setting up Shop right now in the Texas giga factory to produce cells for Tesla.
Did he solve the energy density issue ?
No and this supposed new factory for them is just a lie.
As a truck driver electric powered semis dont work for the majority of truck driving. First problem is there is not enough parking at truck stops or rest stops across the USA. Second problem is that if the truck breaks down who is gonna fix it fast? Tesla doesn't have right to repair or common issued parts. Also most trucks run 70 hours a week making fast repairs a must for most carriers to operate at a profit. Not to add the electric grid of the USA can barley handle the current load.
Electricity is dirt cheap. 😮😊
thank you for this interesting video I look forward to watching your videos…thanks
Very curious if version 2.0 will use Tesla Made 4680's. This would line up with the timing of the 4680 ramp nicely.
They need to do school buses; Perfect candidate which could charge most of day except for use for probably
Just imagine the Vehicle to GRID potential.
Maybe they can adapt the semi. The bus market may be too small for tesla tbh
School buses wouldn't make as big an environmental impact since they operate for so few hours in a day. They still need to produce the cybercab, roadster, the $25k EV, and a van. Plus they're introducing more models based on the 3 and Y platforms. These have all been announced, so I don't think a bus is anywhere in sight for the next 10+ years.
Busses could be used for arbitrage. IJS
Byd is already making hundreds of electric bases,that are sold in europe ,Australia and New Zealand.im surprised you don't see them in the United states
I did some quick math and a robo semi could generate $800,000 in revenue a year.
I would assume that for the foreseeable future, the "Robo" will be in convoy, monitored 5:1 (ish) by a "Driven" truck.
Still a money printer.
I have always disliked diesel powered trucks. The fuel stinks the exhaust stinks and is filthy. Noisy is one real benefit of those disgusting vehicles.
God Bless Elon Musk for saving all of us from the filthy diesel beasts.
If that shouldn’t happen you can still volunteer to populate the city to be built on Mars. I still can’t believe how gullible some people are
Soon we'll have solar powered F35's they're loud too.
Big your R/C truck to Australia and you will find out how reliable your truck really is.
They don't need Australia. More orders than they can handle. No need to ship/sell it to a country on the other side of the world.
Tesla seems to always be walking a fine line on disclosure. Over decades of observation it appears obvious, "Pie in the sky" remains in the sky until it comes down to earth. Some people can't wait, but we'll have to and one day the future will come down to earth. Imagine what the world would be like if this current technology revolution wasn't happening. TMIO deserves more than 112K subscribers. Thank you for this video "23,000 pound electric semi!?!" "26,000 pound battery!?!" Baseless FUD. It's always impossible, until it's not. Cheers
26,000 lb battery..lol know how much diesel is used to mine , refine, transport that battery
People don't think about how long an EV battery last, including recycling and that in the not too distant future the mining and recycling process will likely become fully electric. It's not possible until of course, it's possible. It's coming.
@cardboardboxification It's 23,000 pounds all up, so obviously it doesn't have a 26,000 pound battery. Mining equipment will also go electric in time, it's economics. All batteries will be recycled so no mining there!
@@cardboardboxificationthat 26,000 lbs was the baseless claimed
Better fire up those megawatt chargers
Why do you need them?
If you're running OTA, The 850kWh(?) pack on the truck needs a maximum of
850 kWh ÷ 10 hours.
That's a V3 unit running at 33% capacity and a pack taking a "trickle charge".
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All you need is sufficient "car charging locations" where a truck could pull along the back of a row and connect to the "wrong side" of a single charger.
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If the physical area is available, it's just painting a few lines.
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Best utilisation big chargers NOT being used overnight.
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The network grows with the fleet.
On the reefers, if the refrigeration is powered from the tractor, there would be no refrigeration when the trailer is dropped off. Also, if it was transferred to a conventional tractor, it would lose refrigeration.
But they made it sound like Pepsi was already experimenting with this idea. So maybe it’s just a matter of getting the right infrastructure in place. Seems like these are hurdles that they should be able to overcome.
Pepsi is running refer trailers? For what?
@@bluedog9935 HA HA
@@elvispresley3340
Elvis has left the building.
@@tech5298 So they can deliver cold soda LMAO. OMG these Tesla fanbois are so clueless. I guess they think Pepsi is like milk. These can't be adults coming up with this crap
Tesla would be running after mining equipment if it had enough engineers. But all those tesla parts are compatible if not scalable. Be nice to see what boring companys latest machine looks like with liquid air tech and such.
50,000 trucks a year is a conservative estimate !!! Elon musk is not the type of man to exaggerate !
Lol
Why stop at 50,000!?
The timeline will be bumped up quickly with the hint of an Elon AI thought, maybe even end of 2024!
And yah we also clearly know the weight claims are full of it.... being this obtuse guarantees it!
It works well and is only getting better!😊
@@squrler Thats what they did when he spoke about how many model 3 they would produce who is Laughing now
He says tongue firmly planted in cheek…
your Quora slide says 22.5 tons that is WRONG its 22.5 thousand lbs or 11.25 tons
exactly
"Freedom" units? 😉
Everything i see here is smoke and mirrors, and not once have i seen a Tesla truck pulling a real load , as for the weight being mentioned in this video , the mentioned weight is clearly for the prime mover only , and by my estimation the tesla prime mover is easily 2 ton heavier than a conventional diesel truck . I might add a lot of the big fleet companies drag two trailers with far more weight than what is being shown here .
The Tesla trucks in the video are what we in the business call day cabs , they are not equipped with sleeper bunks , these Tesla units are also pulling the minimum weight with a bogey trailer ( that means only two axles on the trailer).
So instantly you have less weight capacity on the trailer, the prime mover weighs 2 ton heavier than a diesel prime mover , so that is also less weight you can carry , and again you are only pulling one trailer !
How is this better again ?
Yet a diesel can happily pull two trailers with 143,000 pounds gross weight , and its actually a tad more than that but we leave a 3 ton buffer load because in the event of an accidental overload , fines are very expensive.
As an ex owner driver , and company driver thats driven at least 70 big rigs , i would not buy an electric truck .
And an even bigger joke is these quotes for charging times are only up to 80% .
You couldn't pay me to own an electric truck.
They pull full loads all the time. You're employing the "I don't want it to be true, therefore it isn't" logic which is how fools, imbecile and idiots. It's worthless much like the people who spout it.
Not to mention this is without the applied Elron Musk modifiers, say from the Cybertruck; half the range for double the price, or 1 quarter of the vehicle you expected. How realistic is 1000 miles per day? Assuming as much as a 12 hour workday - which probably exceeds rest regulations already (would here at least) - that's an *AVERAGE* speed of 83,3 miles per hour where max speed is around 70mph (for trucks). Then apply not everywhere being on perfectly flat terrain but quite hilly, and in winter conditions - maybe even on wheel chains - significantly lowering the range and thus usability.
Nah. By all means, I'm a fan of EVs, but this sound like the usual Elron Musk garbage hype nonsense. I cannot for the life of me see electric trucks as a viable long hauler over rails. Inter city hauls? For sure, but EV trucks for this purposes already exist.
How quickly people forget about the Nikola Semi.
😂😂😂 "Selective with their deliveries....."
You must have been watching Spinal Tap
LOL True that! 🤣
Considering the cyber truck could barely muster 90 miles on a full charge while towing in a head to head comparison to a Dodge truck with a diesel engine speaks volumes on my doubts about their claims.
You dare to question Musk's propaganda!? After every claim he's ever made has come to pass, on time and under budget! :)
Their claims have been confirmed by Pepsi.
The Semi has 7x bigger battery then the Cybertruck, and the range loss for towing is more about aerodynamics than weight, so the math checks out.
@@andrasbiro3007 nope. I'm literally willing to bet the math does not check out. Are you?
The towing problem with EV pickups is one of aerodynamics. The Cybertruck cuts through the air better than you would think based on its looks. All that air that slips easily past a Cybertruck or Rivian gets caught on the massive flat-faced trailer you're towing.
Semi trucks don't have this issue. The trailer is tucked fully inside the wake of the truck, minimizing overall drag.
@@andrasbiro3007 Pepsi only doing it as a show for eco propaganda. Even if the battery is 9 x larger, it’s still pulling significantly more weight. Doubts persist.
I’m guessing two years, ‘m I right?😂😂
10:38 For the refrigerator trailers (maybe all boxed trailers)
they should add solar panels and a battery.
If the range is 500 miles on a Tesla Semi fulling loaded, what is the range empty?
The question NOBODY is asking.
What was the bombshell??
Weight reduction
@@pstoppani thank you
I believe it when I see it. Still waiting for the hyperloop.
Good luck! LOL!
thx mate
Excellent video!! Am psyched to see SEMI arrive in a big way! Think about it: no more engine compression braking noise.
Tesla was unable to sell any of the first Tesla Semi except a heavily subsisded handful of them to Pepsi. Now you say they want to produce a Mark II?
50000? 0nly a few hundred have been delivered.
Now that the economy is about to see a huge benefit from lowered transportation costs - our politicians can fuck it all up in order to get kickbacks from the fossil fuel industry.
This is great news. Trucks will change everything.
Yup, won't work in winter, don't have the charging intrastructure to charge them, if they catch on fire good luck , then there's the rocky mt., the Sierra mt., and all the other Mountains in the US and Canada.
Elmo lies. Elmo is a clown.
says the jealous hater.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom FSD still doesn't work after 10 years of telling us it is just around the corner. LMAO
A 52’ trailer has 8kw of potential solar.
You are way underestimating how much power road vehicles need over time.
So let's say we build a trailer with solar panels on top. You sacrifice 1 inch of internal height, add a nonstandard power connector, reduce the payload capacity by ~1000 lbs, and raise the center of gravity. All for about 10 miles of extra range on a sunny day in the South in July. Or more like 5 miles, because megacarrier trailers are covered in dirt from years of zero washing.
@@randgrithr7387 Would help run a refer.
8kW.. IF...
The sun is directly overhead (2 hours?)
No cloud,
No Rain,
Clean panels,
No shade (hills, trees, buildings)
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It's MUCH more efficient to place those panels on let's say a factory roof, point them AT the best angle, keep them clean and charge the truck nearby.
Wow, you mean it will NEVER Run out of power. Amazing... How quickly people forget about the Nikola Truck.
I wonder if the semi will disrupt the way Cybertruck did :)
All can say the future with Tesla is clean and green for our one and only home planet 🌍!
Whats the point when the battery goes it will cost you more than a new truck plus no insurance company is buying you a new battery
What's going on with the tesla pickup?
Why ask? There's a HUGE amount of coverage.
Selling like hotcakes, and the production ramp is going well too.
@tmioTesla thoughts on Elons comp package vote. Which ever way the vote goes stock goes down in my opinion.
Comp package passes and the shares get diluted 56 Billion
Comp package fails Elon leaves stock goes down.
I voted for his comp with all my shares
The noise of using the diesel engine to slow the vehicle will be a thing of the past.
Ya there the Semi will send power back to the battery, while its electric braking.
Never heard of a diesel engine producing diesel while braking 🤔 ?? 😅
@@stigbengtsson7026 - Things ICE folks just do not understand. “Electric breaking making electricity, diesel breaking don’t make diesel!
People would be surprised how many trucks have a dedicated run of less than 400 miles a day.
It is very likely they tesla will replace alot of daycab semis on the road.
That's the most common argument from anti-EV people. The moment someone finds out my car only goes 80 miles (it was a crappy used Leaf that was only five grand) they scoff, "My car goes 400 on a tank".
Little do they know that I work from home, and drive at most 10 miles per day. It's perfect for me. People forget that different vehicles are good for different use cases.
@@smileychess
You can go beyond that.
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Can the truck outrange the driver?
(Range= Mandatory drive time ÷ average speed)
Yes.
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During that Mandatory stop, can the truck regain sufficient range to outrange the driver AGAIN to the end of the maximum shift time?
Yes.
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That's the "Day shift" covered.
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"BUT! OTA!!? There are NO CHARGERS!!"
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Does the truck need "Rapid charging" overnight?
NO, if fact, a slow charge is better.
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If a car charges on a 7kW unit at home, WHY couldn't a truck plug into a Tesla V3 charger with an adapter?
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Scenario.
Many Tesla car charging locations are empty overnight.
If a location has let's say 5 rows of 12 chargers, could those rows have a "Single truck pull through" BEHIND the full row?
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The truck pulls in the opposite side to the cars.
The trailer runs the full length of the row (or more, it doesn't matter)
Plugs in to the "End" charger
(Thought... MAYBE That end unit has a V4 cabinet and a double cable installed, one of which has a Megacharger plug? No adaptor required)
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The truck plugs in
The system calculates time and charge rate.
The truck takes 85kW (only!!) for 10 hours.... IF it needs a full charge.
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You now have a ready made "Starter" OTA charging network.
There are far fewer Trucks than cars, it's more than sufficient.
As the network grows, every new location is configured to convert to trucks overnight.
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There's plenty of grid energy, the trucks are using less than 100kW and local industry is shut down, they have excess..... In fact it's GREAT for local grid operators.
Hi, thank you. Can you comment, aside from 4680 ramp has anything else gotten in the way of full semi production already?
Yes, the factory!
Apparently everything.
On 4680.
The goals of 4680 are
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Small factory / HUGE volume (GWh / TWh)
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CHEAP to produce.
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BUT
There's currently oversupply due to the "pullbacks".
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If CATL (etc) have stock Tesla can buy for less than 4680 production cost.... Tesla will buy that stock.
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Reasons
It's cheaper.
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It's available NOW
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It places Tesla in a situation of being THE "Reliable Customer" moving forward
(Remember the "Chip shortage"?)
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The Asian countries place a LOT of value on keeping ones word.
Tesla works to the same principles.
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Now, if Tesla goes to them and says.
"About those next gen cells you have coming? Are we first in line? Best price?"
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On that subject (speculation)
CATL has the new Shenxing and Qilin cells coming.
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One of them (at least) is to be offered in *4680* format.... SOON.
Guess who the first customer might be?
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(Tesla IS their single largest customer)
In your dreams mate.
FSD factory production 24/7/365 is 8,760 hrs vs 2,000 man hours per year and no holidays, sick leave, training days, std bye workers, weekends, public holidays,
The factory can be 5 times smaller or 5 times more productive. 🤔 😮😊
'Dirt cheap' electricity off rooftop solar PV and
'Dirt cheap' big batteries on wheels.
Expensive grid will not be needed.
@stephenbrickwood1602
3.5 million more people on unemployment. That does sound like the American way. What do you do? I bet a robot could replace you as well.
@OIllllO fair comment.
My understanding is that populations are shrinking in the younger generations, but the older generations are still living longer.
Not just manufacturing in the vehicle industry, but many new USA manufacturers will be needed to replace the collapse in the China population.
Who knows ?????
These are just some things that appear to be in front of the younger generation.
Inflation is predicted, which will hit the older generation.
But if USA buyers are broke, then the economy will suffer, and voters will vote.
So I think much will happen but for the better in the USA and USA trade connected countries.
Not going to happen. Cost of EV trucks is too high; charging is too much of a problem.
but the cost can go down if the market is there to make that happen.
And iron ships will never float! There are always millions and millions of near sayers. This is the future and there will be no ice engined powered anything soon!
As a truck driver in Europe:
500 mile range is fine for a local driver like me (I move shipping containers around Scotland). The furthest I could realistically achieve is Linwood to Lymm services and back in a 10 hour extended day. 448 miles.
Most trucks lie idle overnight, so it can be charged ready for when I start work with 7.5p/unit power.
The long wheelbase has got to go. It would be unworkable in many of my customer locations because Europe is optimised towards shorter tractor units.
The "Blind on both sides" driving position would make it a laughing stock in many yards
The extremely poor visibility from the driving seat would be illegal in most countries. I need to be able to see the front and sides much better and a flat TV screen is no substitute for direct binocular vision of your trailer when reversing. We need a traditional "cabover" layout in Europe.
also, we regularly pull 45' shipping containers. You're not going to that legally without a shorter cabover unit layout.
There's a feature on the Semi to dial in "Length of vehicle".
Once the system knows that, it works out the steering required.
Teslas are best, BUT YOU CANNOT PRODUCE NEARLY ENOUGH TRUCKS
True, they need more trucks. But the glut in batteries seems like it will help.
Might come out in another 10 years
They’ve sold maybe 30 since officially launching. Not exactly “disruptive.”
How many would be "disruptive" without the quotes?
@@TMIOTesla Enough to capture a sizeable portion of the truck market. Something that not only hasn’t been done but seems less and less likely based on current trends.
When people understand the infrastructure needed to charge just one of those trucks they will know how useless these trucks are.
ATA on how impossible the charging is ruclips.net/video/aCoAsPtgRKg/видео.html
@@joecummings1260 FUD. Tesla routinely installs Superchargers with up to 80 or more 250 kW chargers, comparable nearly 30 Megachargers at a single site.
@@BigBen621 And the American Trucking Association is against these great cheaper to operate trucks because????? They don't like making money?
Not only will the grid not be able to cope with Tesla truck charging given EVs are already sucking the grid dry of electrons, the cargo load will kill the range to an unusable level. Tow a loaded trailer with a Cybertruck and watch the range drop through the floor. It does not matter how fast your charger is, if the grid capacity is not there then the charger is throttled down. To useless flow rates. At least 2GW needs added to the grid per week for decades for this to work. No one except China is adding this capacity as they are building 2 coal powered plants per week. If you are building a renewable centric grid then you need to add twice the capacity as renewables are completely unreliable.
I built a solar roofed car port years ago . Today’s price for solar cells probably beats the cost of traditional roofing material.
Solar roofs are awesome , free lighting, shade, and dirt barrier plus energy . Total win win and not the least bit difficult to do. Winning over the morons at city hall may be difficult.
Quoting from Musk 2022 We will have flights to Mars next year and maned flights to mars in 2 years.
Elon Musk: Builds time-machine
Everyone: ya but look how late he was
I doubt that Pepsico needs to transport beverages cold; why would they?
You're telling me they don't use reefers?
Thanks God for Tesla
The best part is the EV Semi’s are charged with diesel generators! Pushing the cost of the fuel onto the charging station.
"Cheep electricity? Where? In California (where this test was done)? Sorry, not true.
I like to know what the weight of this truck is and what it will do to the roads. The electric cars are heavy and blow through guardrails.
Same as a regular truck. 2000 lb increase of absolute maximum load
@@TMIOTesla
No, what's the weight of the _truck alone,_ this matters. Many dry van loads will put you at a gross weight of 60k to 70k. This means a heavier truck will have a higher gross weight hauling the exact same load. This will increase road wear, noise pollution, tire consumption, and braking distance.
I'd rather have the Edison truck. Much better
can't wait for semi mainstreamed sound of diesel trucks outside my house real noise even at 100 yards away
Anything to talk up the stock price!
Who cares about the stock price. I've been making Tesla vids for 6 years lol
My concern would how it runs in below zero temperatures and above 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
But, I think I would have no problem with on those days diesel get used. But that is assuming EV semis cannot handle those temperatures.
If it can't then it's not a problem running diesel in those areas. The option should always be open and never shut out by a government.
Apparently they don't have a problem with cold since they use so much more power and therefore generate more heat, and also because the batteries are in a huge block, 11X the size of a car battery. So the volume to surface area is much greater, meaning it's way easier to keep at normal operating temperatures. Combine that with the next generation of batteries being put in vehicles in China that retain 90% of their power down to -20°C and it's definitely a non-issue.
And you thought you were shocked by the size of regular Tesla 🔥 fire...
I can understand your concerns, but that's why Tesla chose PepsiCo's Sacramento, CA distribution facility to base their trucks. That way, they could test the Semi in the *HOT* summers of the southern Central Valley with temperatures over 110° F (43.3° C) and going up and down Tejon Pass between Bakersfield and Los Angeles.
@@Sacto1654 As well as bitter-cold conditions in the winter going over 7,200 ft. Donner Summit between Sacramento and Reno, again averaging 55 to 60 MPH according to NACFE Run On Less test results.
Nuclear powered trucks with a one-million-kilometer range will make more sense. No charging needed just replace the Uranium fuel cell after a million km.
These are nuclear powered trucks! They just keep the giant fusion reactor at a safe distance from Earth.🌞. 🌎
EGO is big with this one, when they build a monstrosity, and don't ask any truckers what they want in a truck , Just like the CyBeRTrUuCk
Tesla builds nice cars for woman who cant figure out how to check the water and oil , and self drive so they can do their makeup while zipping down the freeway
even the electric cars 100 years ago were for woman because they couldn't crank start the engine before the electric starter
Big mistake building an EV truck plant in fact a waste of money, we can't produce enough electricity now, so by 2035 we will need our coal fired power stations, governments are living in a dream world.
More renewable energy is being produced each year. And if there are to be more fossil fuel power stations built, it will be gas and not coal. But over the next few years the major investment will be in energy storage and improving the transmission network.
Imagine the performance & efficiency of a Tesla designed reefer with their heat pump technology.
What are you talking about? ALL A/C units are heat pumps. It's just a matter of flipping the hot and cold side. Tesla hasn't invented a magic new way to condense and evaporate refrigerant.
Has it not occurred to you that all refrigerated trucks are heat pumps. It's a technology with history going back to the late 1800's it's neither new nor a Musk wonder invention.
Why don't you buy a bunch of them you can have the same 45% depreciation that the cars do every year
Math obviously isn’t yr thing!
It would be nice if you would "report" from the perspective of a citizen and not just as a consumer of things.
what?
Once again: what’s the payload Kenneth!
Crickets.
A company that can't build a regular truck, thinks they out build every semi truck manufacturer.
Engineering Explained is very upset, LOL.
Why what's up
Of course not. They’re always using Elon’s political opinions to analyze Tesla’s technology.
@@Therealphantomzero The Engineering Explained guy had the numbers and equations to show that electric semis are still not feasible. He also went out his way to disprove a Cybertruck towing a Porsche 911 couldn't beat a Porsche 911. Yikes!
@@777Outrigger yes I saw that one. But even if it lost in my opinion not by much and while towing. Good point was they didn't have to be so disingenuous about it. I'm not sure if I agree with engineering explained about the feasibility of semi. Few things is that while there is higher density energy in battery there's higher efficiency on battery. I don't think it will best on range but semi do require an ecosystem tailored to them vs how the ecosystem is tailored to diesel. I think hybrid electric is best but we will have to see how this plays.
There is infrastructure required to own one of these trucks. What is that cost? From what I can tell, it's not like owning a standard Tesla with available charging options everywhere.
The maintenance of a diesel powered semi would make any car owners head spin. Oil changes cost and arm and a leg , diesel fuel destroys engine oil.
@@ytSuns26 true, but with minimal research I found that any location that desires to operate a Tesla Semi charging station requires a very new, powerful substation to support it which is running anywhere between $500k-$2M. That's not a normal expense.
Each Megacharger is $500k installed according to the slide in the video about charging cost
More BS from Musk.
The Tesla delusion just keeps going, got to keep that stock inflated.
Says the most deluded fools of all, the haters. None of you have ever been right or honest about anything.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom See you in 3 years when Tesla are bankrupt and their "BOMBSHELL" on the trucking industry still hasn't dropped. Open your eyes, Musk is nothing more than a grifter who is in a huge amount of debt.
electric semi's just don't make sense until there's quantum change in battery tech. Having
to haul along a battery that is more than half the weight of the truck is just non-sensical.
Pipe Dreams, EV;s are NOT Practical except at the Golf Course, Dumped my model Y in March 24 after 3 years. Happy with ICE Vehicle
Says a deluded fool. You tell yourself whatever lies you need to but don't try and tell those lies to those smarter than you. We just point and laugh.
Why won't Tesla publish it's useful load? Because is much lower than normal trucks.
Exactly, we've seen this Dog and Pony show many times before... The roadster, going to the Moon, Going to Mars... The Nikola Truck. When Gov't $ is handed out, the BS starts.
Vaporware at its best.
A tandem axle daycab diesel powered tractor weighs like 15 to 16 thousand. I think there is some deception going on here about the weight of the Tesla. And the huge elephant in the room is, for most locations the amount of power needed for charging just isn't available. The American Trucking Association addressed this before congress ruclips.net/video/aCoAsPtgRKg/видео.html
Of course the American Trucking Association would try to discredit the Tesla Semi. But Tesla routinely installs Superchargers with up to 80 or more 250 kW chargers, comparable nearly 30 Megachargers at a single site.
Change is inevitable 😊. Fighting it is futile!
@@BigBen621 If they are better and cheaper to operate, why would the ATA not want them?
@@joecummings1260 Because there'll be a serious disruption of their industry while the transition is made.
@@BigBen621 So if all the major trucking companies see it as a problem, who is going to transport the freight? Do you really think you know something that the ATA dosen't? The ATA is all the big players in transportation, lots of them are 100 year plus old companies
By this time next year Tesla will be filing for bankruptcy.
37 tonnes?
What about the other 70 tonne?
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