Fan-Edit Review! | Hal9000's Sequel Trilogy
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Here's my review of Hal9000's fan-edits of the Sequel Trilogy! Since I enjoyed his prequel trilogy so much, it just made sense to see what he could do with Disney's sequels. Enjoy!
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Hal’s edits are some of the most impressive, invisible edits available. I’m actually doing an edit of 9 using Ascendant as a base (with his permission of course). If you like the story present in TROS, but think the issue is execution, Ascendant is definitely for you.
For sure - very very impressive stuff! Thanks again!
Will you add any new saber duels?
@@order42show There’s an edit called First Order: Last Jedi “A Star Wars Story” by triggered puppy that turns the sequels into one movie. You can find a link for it in a video description, just search “Triggered Puppy 3 sequels edit”
I’d say it’s worth checking out
Interesting! I’m curious if any edit can fix the back and forth stuff of the overall narrative and could make it into a more satisfying thing.
@@JXEditor What are the major changes? If you don't mind me asking
Hal’s edits took these movies from something I would have watched once or twice (like the original prequels) to something I actually enjoy and would gladly rewatch (ahead of the prequels, even the edited ones).
High praise! Just fantastic work. Glad you enjoyed them!
It's fantastic that you're doing fanedit reviews and sharing your passion for them. Working on Ascendant was an extremely special time for the community. One of the most collaborative projects to date. Let me know if you'd like to see anymore future star wars edits coming over the next few months.
Keep up the great work!
I appreciate that! I’m always interested in them, although I’ve done a LOT of Star Wars and The Hobbit, but I enjoy watching them!
What is Ascendant?
It’s a fan-edit called “The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant.
@@order42show cool. How does that compare to this Hal9000 stuff? Found your channel because of these reviews and we subbed and just started watching the h9000 prequels, they're great.
Hadn’t actually watched it yet! I was just answering your question. 😁
There's another Rise of Skywalker edit by an editor named Spence called The Final Order which takes many of HAL's edits and adds more. It's called The Final Order and it manages to remove all references to 'Rey Palpatine', making her a nobody again and giving her more agency. For instance, instead of hearing all the Jedi voices at the end, she thinks back to all the good times she had with her friends and that gives her the strength to keep going.
It also kills of Leia early (during Rey's Jedi training to be precise), removing all the weird superimposed scenes that never felt right. It actually flows pretty well.
It's still the Rise of Skywalker, which I feel is a fundamentally broken movie, but it at least takes out its worst aspect. Seek it out if you can.
Well, I think the worst aspect is the Emperor returning, but probably no way to fix that. I’ll look into it!
Lol, hearing the jedi voices is faaar better than her thinking of her "friends" lol, that's laughable which is hilarious because the scene already was laughable
Has anyone done a total fan edit combining all three movies into one?
Had the idea of TFA starting with Palatine/Sideous being introduced in the crawl intro. That way it doesn't come off lame. Snoke would be equivalent to Count Doku. Using Kylo and the FirstOrder usher in the Final Order.
Something like that.
To be perfectly honest, I have no idea - but I'm sure there has. There are SO many fan-edits out there, and trying to find even one is so difficult. Since Hal9000's edits were so highly rated over on Fanedit . org, I gave his a shot first.
I really like the alternate scene of Phasma's death in TLJ. It felt more of a satisfying sendoff to Finn and Phasma's rivalry than in the theatrical cut, particularly Boyega's delivery of "rebel scum" is so good. Effects incomplete, but it's Star Wars, you know someone will rise up to the challenge.
Yeah, that’s the great thing about fan-edits…some of them break new ground, but then others come along and really take edits to a new level. The Hobbit movies are a great example of that.
such a good way to comment other's works and cinema content. your channel deserves more exposure. keep going !
Very nice of you to say - thank you!
I saw TFA: Restructured and TROS Ascendant. I didn’t bother with TLJ: Legendary because I personally believe TLJ was perfect as it was. Matter of fact, I've watched extended editions of TLJ to get more TLJ action! The TFA: Restructured edit was good and a fine alternative, but I overall prefer the original TFA. As for TROS Ascendant, Hal 9000 actually tremendously improved the movie for me. A lot of supplementary material has since come out that explained some of the finer points of the story, like Rey's parents, Ochi and the dagger, so for me the original TROS's biggest faults lied with its pacing, bad jokes, and characterization. Hal 9000 fixed that and then some. The Force Ghost Jedis were awesome, and Force Ghost Ben Solo was just a huge cherry on top as someone who was a big fan of a Rey x Ben Solo romantic relationship. The emotional delivery of "Rey Skywalker ", the final shot being the Millennium Falcon taking off as Rey goes off on a new adventure with her friends... so much better. I hated the original TROS. I've actually re-watched TROS Ascendant today, and it was like my 6th re-watch since seeing it for the first time last year. So yeah. My 2 cents
To be perfectly honest with you - I’d watched TFA and TLJ over and over because I was so excited to see what was coming in TRoS…but then it came out, and it kinda made me sad to watch them again. (I rewatched TRoS when I get the big bad set in 4K, and that may be the last time).
I’m glad you enjoyed Hal9000 edits! There’s only so much you can do to “fix” those movies, so they’re about as good as they’ll ever be, in my eyes!
I'm not sure if you are aware but Hal released another Rise of Skywalker edit (Rey Nobody) supposedly it follows The Last Jedi better.
I was not! I’ll be sure to check it out!
Hey what about M4’s Hobbit and Maple Films still prefer them after watching Chris’s Back and Again Edit?
The Maple Films version has always been the gold standard for me, but I also haven't watched them again since - I'd really have to watch them all again to know for sure, almost back to back, and even then, there are going to be scenes that you don't like that they left in or scenes you love that they took out - so even that would be highly subjective!
Hey there, just discovered your channel and some of these fan edits. I found all of Hal9000’s videos this week and started w Ep 1. I also saw the he has a “Rey Nobody” cut of Ep 9 where he removes all reference to her being a Palpatine. I will be checking this one out. Curious what your thoughts are about this cut. I know this is an old video but thanks for reviewing these.
Thank you for checking my reviews out! I started doing fan-edit reviews just because I think they’re fun. Hal9000 is a really talented editor, so you tell me he’s got one I should check out, it’s immediately going on the list. Thanks again!
Thank you for reviewing these. More people deserve to know about Hal's edits -- they save the series. I wonder if he will make changes after the Mandoverse is done?
There is always room for improvement, but then again - he may take things out that you like or I like…it’s such a subjective thing. But you’re right - Hal is so talented, and it’s cool to be able to talk about his (and all the other editors’) work!
you didnt mention (not sure if you knew) that he has 2 versions of the episode 9 edit, the regular one and the "rey nobody" one which follows the last jedis establishes lore that she is a nobody and her lineage doesnt contributs to her power, so basically shes not a palpatine
I feel like I do remember hearing about that, but that sounds preferable to me. When I chose these to edit, it was because of their ratings on Fanedit.org. Have you seen it and do you prefer it?
@@order42show yes it makes the film feel more like a sequel to the last jedi and makes Rey's character more likeable instead of just "from the most powerful family so automatically gifted" (in my opinion)
Well, that sounds great! Thanks for the rec!
I’m glad that hal9000 was able to improve these movies, but the sequel trilogy will just never be canon for me. I refuse to give up all of the great expanded universe stories we had before Disney cancelled them in exchange for a dissonant and poorly written trilogy of films which constantly retcon each-other and feel like they’re all fighting against themselves to take the characters and overall narrative in completely different (and often nonsensical) directions. At the end of the day, there’s only so much editing can do to improve what are fundamentally flawed movies, and the expanded universe will always be head-canon for me in the years set after RotJ.
You’re right about the fact that you can only do so much. I never got too far into the EU, because the Zahn trilogy always just felt like fan fiction to me. Although, it has been years - it may actually work better for me these days.
At this point, I just shake my head - there was so much potential and raw ability. And they LOOK amazing.
I didn't get into the EU because I didn't want to get attached to it only to have it retconned, and that was my mentality before Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney.. I'm only actually going through all the old books and comics now for the first time because I don't have that anxiety that the next episode of Clone Wars or other George Lucas project will shatter them all.
Anyone sell copies of these? Yes I know there’s links to download but I want to watch it on a tv and don’t have the equipment to download and burn my own :/
Not that I’m aware of - and that’s where things get fishy, too, where money’s changing hands for a copyrighted movie.
@@order42show true true . Same can be said for illegally downloading a copyrighted movie that’s been “edited “ 🤷🏼♂️ I mean if someone wants to send copies for free I’m all for it 😂
Hi could you please tell me how do I get to watch those?
I won't link directly (don't want to get in any trouble), but if you search "Hal9000 Fan Edit" in your search engine of choice, there should be a Reddit post where he outlines where he has all of his stuff. ;)
@order42show Hi, I did find them in the end. I hope to watch them this weekend. Take care and thank you for all your help.
Absolutely! Hope you enjoy!
Where can i watch them?
You’ll have to use a search engine - type in “Hal9000 Star Wars” and there should be a Reddit thread that shows where you can get them. Using Google, it’s the second result. Enjoy!
I can't find them can someone help please
Search for “Hal9000 fan edit”, and for me, the second link is a Reddit post where he gives you the links to his work.
Is there a link to watch these edits?
Search for “Hal9000 Star Wars” in your search engine. There should be a Reddit link with all of the download links.
@@order42show Can't find it. Could you send me a link
Sorry - I can’t provide links to copyrighted material. Trust me - if you search that, you’ll find his post on Reddit where everything he’s done is listed.
"i am a jedi" was said by luke in rotj too so i think it feels more like a real star wars line than "im all the jedi"
I’d agree with that - it almost feels like a typical line that a sequel would use to sort of “one-up” what came before.
(Did I actually mention that? It’s been a while since I saw this edit.)
@@order42show you said you didn't like either line, I get where Ur coming from but I actually like the version where she says "I am a Jedi" feels like something a Jedi would actually say 😂
Ah, ok, I get it!
I am interested in watching these now.
You should! They are fun to watch!
How do I watch them?
You’ll need to search with Google “Hal9000 Star Wars”. The first result should be a Reddit post with all of the information on how to watch. 👍🏻
@@order42show But there's commentary audio over them.
There are multiple audio tracks - you have to change the audio in your media player. Mine defaults to the regular audio.
Um..how do you see them?
Check this link - there may be a Google drive link somewhere here...
www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/16g0ely/hal9000/
Should check out Aquaman: Special Edition, Last Jedi: Rekindled, The Bilbo Edit, Hobbit Spence Edit and Star Wars: Heir of The Force. Love you videos there should be more people reviewing fan edits its a great community!
Great suggestions, and thanks for the kind words! I'm very much having fun digging into some of the amazing work out there!
I'm new to the fan edit scene, where do we find them?
It depends - but in general, you have to put the edit name in your search engine and go down the rabbit hole.
A good start though? ifdb.fanedit.org/ifdb/
Each edit will be hosted in different places.
@@order42show thanks so much for your reply its much appreciated 👍
Definetly gonna give these a try.
The pentex edit of Kenobi is worth checkinh out
Pentex, huh? Haven’t heard of that one. Thanks!
Check out Adywan's Star Wars Revisited fan edits once Return Of The Jedi: Revisited comes out.
These are the greatest fan edits of The Original Trilogy ever.
🤩🤩🤩🤩
I actually saw a version of A New Hope years ago! It would be cool to see his “finalized” versions!
@@order42show yes it will 👍👍
How can I watch these?
Using Google, search “Hal9000 Star Wars” and the first link has all the details.
The ones I'm seeing all have his commentary on though...
Yes, but if I remember, it’s an alternate audio track. So, you can switch between the regular movie audio or his commentary during playback.
How lol it's all very confusing. Can you send me the link directly to it here cause there's a bunch of different files and stuff.
I can’t link directly here. There’s a help file in that Reddit post. You will need to do this on a computer.
Hate the star killer base would have been better to move it to the end but not have the systems destroyed.
Well, I think a lot of that is the idea that everything has to be bigger than what came before. I appreciate what Hal was able to do with what he had, but there are too many problems, imho, than what can be fixed with taking a few things out and/or moving things around. 🤷🏻♂️
@@order42show 100% agree. There's just too much cheese and bad story to fix in edit. The prequels are another story, seen some great edits of them with less jar jar and even his voice edited into an alien voice with subtitles.
Not sure why you are accusing TROS of retconning previous movies when you praise the very movie that started that (TLJ)
In what way did TLJ retcon? I seriously can’t think of anything.
You will like my sequel fan-edit with two brand new scene with Anakin in it.
What’s the name of it or how do I find it?
@@order42show For episode 7 is : A spark of hope.
For episode 8 is : The Last Hope
For episode 9 is : Balance of the Force
But they are not available right now because i'm working on them right now but i will send you a message when the first one will be ready.
Sounds good!
@@order42show and i will use some of the scene from hal900 ascendant edit but not all of them and some idea are the same in my edit. I can tell that of the Force ghost of Anakin will not appear in just one scene, he will appear 4 scene in my sequel trilogy edit. Since the first day i wanted to make my own fan-edit of the sequel trilogy, i wanted to add Anakin in the trilogy to feel his presence and that what I wanted and it will happen.
Umm, just the fact that ppl are doing this is cool and also, wow, those who made the film should take note. Fans are kinda easy to please. For example, The Vergence in the Force was awesome. 2 hrs and 11 min or so. Amazing prequel fan edit. I was looking for one for the sequel 3 movie Fan Edit of all 3 films into one. Is there one available?
I don’t actually know of one for the sequel trilogy, but wow, 2 hours and 11 minutes for three movies? Guess I should check that one out.
@@order42show I might be off a few minutes but it was great.
Han dies even _more_ broken?
I mean…how broken can one Han be?
Great review! I also like TLJ the most of the sequels, so I'm excited to watch these edits.
Thanks! Hope you enjoy them!
Great, I agree with you about just about everything. I really thought the best part of the sequels was the opening of Force Awakens, it introduced Kylo, Poe, Finn and Rey in really good ways. Everything else was sort of a disappointment. The Last Jedi’s cinematography was the most beautiful by far, agreed, probably my favorite too, but the story and death of Luke could have been handled so, so much better. Eliminating the villain and leaving a conflicted Kylo in charge of the First Order was a terrible choice.
I would like to see a cut that combines all of the sequel movies, gets rid of Canto Bight, kills Poe in the crashed tie fighter on Jakku and Finn is killed in the forest on Star Killer Base, and still have Han and Leia die (their deaths actually contribute to the story ie Kylo’s redemption arc, unlike Luke’s death which served no purpose other than inflating RJ’s ego through his middle finger to the fanbase through his masturbatory subversion of expectations.) I would have it end with Rey killing Kylo and meeting Luke on the island and that would be the end of it all, leaving the story open to go in any direction afterward (new generation of Jedi, trained by Luke, etc.) Possibly have the whole thing skip Palpatine completely as it’s so stupid OR have the starting scroll explain that Snoke is in command of the empire as Palpatine is regenerating in a clone body … something instead of the random shit we got.
Yeah, I mean…the ST didn’t destroy my love for Star Wars as a whole, but man, it’s definitely killed most of my enjoyment from talking about it. The fact is, even if TLJ has the most going for it, I know what comes after.
The biggest problem with your admittedly better idea is that I just don’t know if, with the footage available, it could be done. I really like when editors are able to pull off some wacky “rewrites” of movies. It’d be interesting to see how far you could get with this idea.
Well from what we know about the inital plans for Episode IX, Kylo wasn't supposed to be conflicted, this was supposed to be his full transition into the Main Antagonist, but Disney got scared and went back to JJ who basically just did a rehash of VI, damn shame because the leaked script of Big Bad Kylo was awesome.
I think the worst thing that can be done was done with the sequel trilogy…no plan. And even worse, they didn’t build on the previous movies. I read through the supposed Trevorrow script, and there are some things in there I would’ve LOVED to see, but who knows? Trevorrow hasn’t ever really blown me away, so it could’ve been just as bad or worse. Guess we’ll never know!
@@order42show Yeah either Jar Jar Abrams should have done everything, or they should have built off of each movie rather than being so worried about reverting back changes. I mean Kylo rebuilding his mask was infuriating to me after his whole arc in TLJ was about destroying the past.
Buuuuttt, with that being said Trevorrow also directed Jurassic World: Dominion so yeah...
Yep. It comes down to Iger wanted to recoup their investment as quickly as possible rather than craft a plan that they would stick to. 🤷🏻♂️
The Prequels never needed a recut - they were complete statements from an artist. Recuts are for movies that are in some way incomplete.
That’s true, but I had a good time with these. Sometimes it’s fun to see a movie you’ve seen with a new perspective. It doesn’t replace the original.
@@order42show I do completely agree about Paradise! That idiot Damon Lindelof screwed that project up completely. Paradise does an amazing job of actually compiling an Alien prequel out of that heap of footage.
I don’t know if that was all Lindelof’s fault. He had nothing to do with Covenant and that was worse! But I really enjoyed Paradise a lot!
The prequels had great ideas but utterly terrible execution.
GL also chose some very outdated methods to shoot them. It did give the films a scope that wasn’t really done before, but it’s come a long way in the last 25 years. And the Clone Wars animated series really fleshed out those good ideas, so I was happy to see that. (They’ve got their moments of cringe, but there are some fantastic things in those movies!)
Sucks that there's no means to watch his work now. Wanted to see what this guy made and can't find anything. Not even any clips nothing
Not sure what you mean…? If you search “Hal9000 Star Wars”, you’ll find a Reddit post with how to watch everything.
can you provide a link please? The only Reddit post I've seen referencing Hal was removed by moderators.@@order42show
I also thought Last Jedi was the best of the three modern sequels. It subverted expectations and it’s not perfect. But I appreciated it.
It just tried to move Star Wars forward, as imperfect as it is. Totally get why people don’t like it, but I’d like to see Star Wars evolve.
Bringing the emperor back did far less damage to the OT than TLJ did. If you don't like the emperor coming back, imagine how people feel about Luke being completely changed. Most of the retconning happened in TLJ. TRoS had to reconnect it to TFA.
Get what you’re saying, but - and believe me when I say that I know we’re probably not going to change each other’s minds here - but, it was TFA that made Luke disappear. TLJ had to explain how Luke couldn’t have felt all of the pain going on in TFA, and the only explanation that would’ve made sense was that Luke was cut off from the Force. And then…why? What would make him do that?
The Emperor coming back was…what it was…
But then again, the failure comes from not having a singular vision from the beginning. I like parts of all the movies, but a satisfactory conclusion to my favorite saga of movies ever? Nope.
@@order42show I agree about not having a singular vision. That's still very surprising to me and honestly why most of the problems occurred. By not requiring Rian Johnson to continue the story of TFA, it sent us on a disjointed path. Such that TRoS coming back to the original story feels like retconning.
I don't agree that Luke needed to not feel all the pain. In fact, TLJ kind of contradicts that notion, since even when he DID feel the pain, he didn't return. The way TLJ wrote Luke was that he no longer really cared about his friends and somehow blamed the Jedi (when that very idea is meta based on watching the movies rather than living them. Luke's critique of the jedi sounds like comment on reddit), which was quite a departure from who he was in the OT. And the only justification for that was his mistake with Ben, which was also in complete contradiction to who he worked so hard to become over 3 movies. Juke was a mature jedi at the end of RotJ, one who risked everything to redeem his father. Then by the time TLJ happens, we have a contradictory character with an instinct to murder family rather than redeem it. Thus ignoring all the lessons he learned in the OT.
I don't think Johnson was doing what he thought he had to do with the story, rather he was seeking to subvert expectations, if the fans thought A would happen, he would do B. He has said as much in interviews that as a viewer he wants to be surprised. But surprises that are surprises for surprise sake (the lightsaber yoink toss) are less powerful and just jarring and unpleasant. More than the weak subversive story telling though, I just had a hard time with cringe humor. A yo-mama joke as the opener shows a person who really doesn't understand star wars.
I get it - but humor is completely subjective. But I didn’t find the humor jarring at all. I didn’t exactly find it funny, but not out of character.
But seriously - knowing that they had 0 plan from the beginning, was there even a point? That’s what I have the hardest time with, and why I haven’t been interested in watching any of them since TRoS came out. 🤷🏻♂️
@@order42show Humor is subjective but so is art in general and film in particular. If you don't find yo mamma jokes out of character for star wars, then RJ made a movie for you. But trust me, it was awful and 100% cringe to most long time fans. The humor in TLJ made some of the writing in the prequels feel like Citizen Kane. Thanks for a fun review!
I agree with both of you when it comes to bringing back The Emperor. I like the idea because it makes him the main antagonist for all 9 films (the sequences in his lair on Exegol are some of the best among the sequels) but the way it was shoe horned in with no set up feels forced and desperate. Even something like revealing the Emperor and Rey being his grand daughter happening in the second half of TLJ by Rey being drawn to Exegol through the Hal9000's chanting Sith concept to have the Emperor begin turning her to the dark would have been a vast improvement... then save Luke's death for TRoS after he brings both Rey and Ben back to the light. Boom! fixed it lol
You say that you like the Last Jedi the best out of the sequel trilogy.
The entire story arc involving Finn and Rose is useless to the overall story. You can remove their entire plot b and nothing changes. Poe attempts a mutiny, which fails and he is left looking like a dummy. Fin and Rose go off to look for this master code breaker, fail to find him, find another guy instead who betrays them, they escape, and end up right back with the Resistance for the third act.
This is why I hold to the argument that Poe should have died in Force Awakens after crash landing on Jakku. His purpose should have been to get Finn's story going. There is no reason for him to pop up again later in the film. And had he not sent Finn on that useless mission, Finn may have gone off when Rose wasn't looking so he could find Rey. Or, he could have done something useful. And then the last film, the stuff with Poe could have been taken out and replaced with something else that made more sense, and no one would have missed it.
There are many problems with the sequel trilogy, not just one movie. There are lots of issues that are inherent to the way the stories are told, so even with fan-edits, there’s only so much you can do.
With regards to TLJ, I don’t have issues with what went down in each character arc - the execution, however, leaves a lot to be desired. Still, it’s the one movie of the three that attempts to change up some of the “tropes” that the previous trilogies did in a new way. It’s just a shame that TRoS attempted to undo a lot of what was set up and just left me with a bad taste in my mouth for the whole trilogy.
i disagree only TROS is good but i still don´t consider any of the sequels canon because even though TROS is good it still ruins the og trilogy and Luke was still dead and i hope the sequels are decanonized and moved to a a diferent timeline
Who knows what they'll do (if anything), but I don't think they'll ever do separate timelines and such. It's being reactionary instead of just telling the story they set out to tell (which, they didn't really know where they were heading, so...)
if Han Luke and Leia still die in this edits than this doesn´t fix the movies
Well, I mean...they still die...
Edits cant really do anything. These movies are so fundamentally wrong to their core, there's no fixing them
I mean…you’re not wrong, but it’s interesting to see what can be done moving things around and taking some things out.
I can completely understand why one might not like episode 9. What I can’t fathom, is how said person can simultaneously like episode 8.
It’s all subjective, for sure - and trust me, there are many problems with VIII. But I didn’t feel that it did destructive damage to the Saga like IX did.
@@order42show I feel like that’s all it did. Having said that, TFA did so first with its incredible lack of character motivation and mystery box story telling. It started it down a terrible path.
Well, I do believe that they should’ve had a plan, of course - but it sounds like we disagree pretty far on VIII. 😁
@@order42show I will die on this hill, yes. Lol
@@order42show I’ll never forget how I felt after all of them. After seeing TFA, I remember everyone around me being so jazzed, having absolutely loved it. And I just felt like something was off. But then it grew on me. So I was stoked for TLJ. When it was over, my brother and I sat in silence almost all the way through the credits, still trying to process what we’d seen. I wanted to like it so much, but I could not ignore how I’d been shaking my head through the entire thing. So we saw it again. My brother convinced himself that he liked it better. However, I was determined to be as honest as possible with myself. So I started ranting and didn’t stop til, well I still haven’t. 😆 So I absolutely loved every middle finger episode 9 had for it. Even if the movie still ultimately sucked.
I completely agree with The Last Jedi being the best out the Sequel Trilogy. I think people hated it so much because of Luke, but like you said, there really isn't a much better explanation for why he was missing from TFA, why he didn't feel the pain of the New Republic getting decimated, and why he essentially cut himself off. Rian Johnson did the best with what he was given. It was easily the best made, best looking, and overall most enjoyable out of the sequel trilogy.
Thanks for saying that! Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one that says it…but, then again, I felt that TRoS sort of ruined what Rian had built, so it sort of feel like all of it was a bit of a waste. It’s hard now to watch it in a vacuum, you know?
@@order42show You're definitely not the only one saying that my man. I think the people who dislike the movie are a lot more vocal about it. Especially because if you didn't like TLJ you REALLY didn't like it. It isn't like the prequels where the general disdain seems to be centered around them being too campy and goofy. Some people genuinely hate the movie and are very vocal about it. Personally, I thought it was great but never felt so strongly about it that I felt the need to sing it praises. I'm sure a lot of people are in that same boat. It kind of paints this picture that there is overwhelming negative reception to the film- when I don't really think that's the case. I think it's fair to say that everyone was a little dissapointed with the way Luke turned out- but there were so many other aspects of the movie that I absolutely loved. Mainly, it was the first Star Wars movie in a long time that felt original- like someone was actually trying to be creative. Frankly it was a breath of fresh air after The Force Awakens. I still remember driving 3 hours to an IMAX theater in snowstorm to go see that movie and I walked out thinking "wow they really just made A New Hope all over again". Chronologically, that would have been the 3rd death star in 4 movies. I was so pleasantly surprised after TLJ because I finally felt like we were going to actually going to go in a new direction.
Sounds a lot like me! Nice to hear someone with a similar take on the whole thing.
Lucas had plans to revive Palpatine so.....
I’m not so sure about that. Ian McDiarmid had said that GL told him he was gone. Him okaying the return in a comic is one thing. And…I think everyone can agree that Disney didn’t plan that from the beginning.
His plan was to have Darth Maul be the main antagonist of the sequel trilogy. Darth Talon would be his apprentice. But the fact that he had intentions to focus on the micro-biology side of the Force for the entire sequels makes me think most people wouldn't have liked his stories.
Some would have loved them, while some would’ve hated them…just like everything else!