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Yeah, that’s pretty much how I felt. It wasn’t offensive to me the way Rings of Power was…but it’s hard not to feel a bit of cynicism about it considering how the budget seemed to be utilized and that it might’ve just been put out there to retain the rights…

@@order42show I put any blame more on the studio than on cast or crew.

Truly.

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Wow, I…completely disagree, at least so far. “Inspired by” would be what I would say. But hey, sorry it’s not for you, but I am really enjoying it so far.

Hmmm...that's odd about the indigenous cast. And Vangelis' score is great - I just wish the movie matched it (although, I probably need to see it again).

Thanks - doesn’t appear to be doing well in the box office, so those who wish to just stream it will likely get their wish soon! When you say “you guys”…do you mean, me and the Game Chasers? And which alien stuff? I’d be curious to get their thoughts on all this drone stuff.

@@order42show Yeah, by you guys, I mean chasing the unknown crew. Sorry, to mention it on this channel, its just big news and I would like to hear your guys' inputs on the situation.

No, it’s fine! I would love to do it - unfortunately, with the holidays, it’s really hard to get everyone on the same page. Hopefully soon we can get together and talk about all this stuff!

Too true. Fingers crossed it keeps delivering!

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Hmm…thanks for letting me know! I don’t subscribe to Peacock right now but I’ll put it on the watchlist.

@order42show looking Forward to the review

to elabortate: all ive seen so far could have also just been a scene in the netflix Castlevania series. Which isn't.. great.

I would say this…if you’re going to go for the animation, I would sadly recommend that you wait and watch it on streaming. I think as a story, it works reasonably well, but I was a underwhelmed by the animation, and my wife also thought that it was distracting at times.

@@order42show Thank you! Thanks so much I will definitely hold out for streaming in that case. Speaking of which, if you haven't seen it yet The Wild Robot is out on bluray etc. and has terrific animation.

Yeah, it pains me to say that, because I’m a big “see it in the theater” guy. But yes! Wild Robot is on my list, but my wife also wants to see it and we just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

You know, my brother actually said the same thing, and maybe I’m misremembering, but…the only place where I felt her “power” was a bit out of place was in the fight against Wulf near the end. Every other time she was overpowered by her foe and through circumstance was able to win, and even through that last Wulf fight, it still seemed that she got lucky. So, I guess if that makes her a Mary Sue…and the thing is, if it didn’t work for you, that’s a valid opinion. I just think there are MUCH worse examples out there than this.

Yeah, I love them, especially the first one!

Hmm…I mean, different strokes, right?

Hmmm…can you give me some examples? I reread those pages before the movie, and other than compressing the timeline, what did they change?

​@@order42show How Hama died, how Haleth died, how Helm died, how Freca died, how Wulf died. Some of these have small changes which I could ignore, some have big changes (like Helm, who's death was really dumb in the movie), and some are huge (like Wulf who died in Edoras by Frealaf) Frealaf was never banished by the king, he escaped with some men after the first battle was lost, and after the winter, he attacked Edoras and took it back from Wulf, killing him, and that is why he was the king at the end, not because "Hera" let him be king. Oh and of course, he didn't go to Helm's Deep to break the siege. Shieldmaidens were not a thing in Rohan. In the books Eowyn was not A shieldmaiden, she was THE shieldmaiden. So Olwyn shouldn't even exist. After the winter and Frealaf taking back Edoras, Gondor sent armies to help drive the remaining Dunlendings out of Rohan, they couldn't come earlier because they had a war at their southern shores. Now for some of the things that if had actually happened, they would be part of Tolkien's notes. Oliphaunts, great eagles and a watcher in the water type monsters, yeah they would probably be mentioned. And to adress the mumakil in the room, the entirety of Hera's actions. Yeah she existed in the book but she did so much nothing that she wasn't even given a name. If you know one thing about Tolkien is that he really loves giving names. To put it to perspective, even Frealaf's mother and Helm's sister had a name in the books (Hild) and she didn't do anything. Now I understand that if the movie was 100% like the books she would still need a name (though maybe they could pick a better one) and some POV from her would be interesting. But to think that she would have done all of that and nothing would be mentioned is crazy.

I mean…I know it wasn’t as successful, and I’m not a huge Trek stan, but I had a good time!

Interesting to hear that! I don’t hear many say that (but maybe it’s because I grew up with Star Wars). Are you a longtime Trek fan?

I’m 37 … I just think the trek is more scientific and a realistic future. Then again i read about the Anunnaki (space refugees) / gods … and it could all be true

I grew up with Star Trek voyager * 😁

Gotcha. I get that it’s more scientific, I just gravitated to the characters in Star Wars, I guess I just connected to them more. It’s my goal to try and get caught up with Trek, as I’ve only watched bits and pieces of all the series over the years.

@@order42show I love that Patrick Stewart is a Yorkshire lad like myself … he’s well spoken compared to me though

I’m really wondering what everyone thinks! I had a lot of fun with it.

It’s good. Didn’t blow me away or anything, but it’s good.

Thank you for the kind words! Yeah, the contrasting styles stuck out when I watched the trailer again, so I was already primed for it.

Well, that’s hard to answer. First…it doesn’t really affect anything in The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings as far as the movies go…BUT, the changes made in those movies from the books probably would NOT be strictly considered canon by Tolkien himself. Again, considering the story he wrote was only 2 1/2 pages in the appendices, they stretched the story further than I expected, but if you want strictly canon…that only comes from the books.

Yes sir! I got into collecting them during the pandemic, and I’m quickly running out of room!

@@order42show Awesome. I recently bought all 4 of the History of Middle Earth sets, they're amazing. I'm enjoying the Silmarillion more now than I did when I first read it at 19.

Yeah, I think those new HoME sets are awesome, but just can’t justify buying them since I’d picked up my illustrated Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales AND the original editions…but if I had unlimited space…!

@@order42show That Silmarillion illustrated is incredible, unfortunately the version in the HoME set is just the text. I've always wanted the history books since 1999 and never got them, so was a good time to grab them.

I recently finished HoME, trudging through it. I'm SO glad I did it, but it's very much the history - you're going to read some of the same stories MANY times, different versions, added details and so on. I don't plan on ever reading through them again, but they're great to have if you want to reference something. Every now and again you come across little glimpses of new information. What I did on my last reread of the Lord of the Rings (it was my third reread) - I read each chapter, then read the corresponding chapter in the LotR Companion, then I would read the corresponding HoME book, but they don't link up completely. But I got a LOT out of it that way, and ended up loving LotR even more! If you think about it, I'd love to hear your thoughts on your journey, whether it's here or through Discord or email - I'd love to know how it goes!

Anything’s possible - the more time goes on, the more I think that Zodiac was more than one person (DNA doesn’t match ALA, Z’s handwriting changing). We’ll probably never know.

Yeah, it was…very meh. Felt like I was watching a ‘70s TV show.

Well, the thing is - I’ve taken an extended hiatus from reviewing Indian movies in general. The only one from this year that I’m interested in seeing is “Kill”, just because it seems to be doing something different. It doesn’t mean that I’ll never watch another one, but like this last weekend, Pushpa 2 came out with huge box office numbers and…I didn’t really care for the first one! Most of the movies, I’m just not part of the target audience, so they’re just not the kind of movies I want to see.

@order42show Ok every reviewer has own way and ethics about works. Kill is good one and many Americans reviewer also loved this movie and not only that I realised about 'kill' it was loved by those movie reviewer from whom normally don't interested in Indian movies they are also kill movie John wick director also hired right of 'kill' movie to remake in Hollywood

@@order42show you mentioned pushpa,but on the basis of box office numbers we are not judge any Indian movie (don't take wrong way about my opinion) but this is reality only about Indian movies because Indian movies divided into many movies industries. When hindi belt audience or Hindi language audience accept any movies that movie can earn good number but that numbers are also not like number of other countries' movie industry in their own domestic market because now we can get examples of pushpa, pushpa movie is south Indian Telugu movie but south India have 5 to 6 defferent movie industries and pushpa can't get success in other South Indian state at that level which potential have in that state because every movie industry has their own fan base. INDIAN domestic box office market sales more than 3 billion tickets in every year and this number are the highest ticket sales number in the world but no one single movie can compare with hollywood or Chinese movies on the basis of box office number in the world cinema; Indian audience are divided because of diversity Of language and movie industries There we can't say every good content movie can get success in box office e.g. before 2015 Hindi language belt don't watch south Indian movies in theatre therefore that movie couldn't success like now therefore movies like 'I movie', 'eaga movie' don't get box office in north India Indian movies faces some problem about Box office collections in domestic market as well as overseas markets . Therefore when International magazine published list of world famous actor and highest earners actor in the world then Indian actors also get position in that list not only that shaharuk khan, Amir Khan, Akshay Kumar took position in top ten list in many times but Indian movies can't take position in highest earners movies the world's list

Well, like I’ve said before…so many Indian movies are very targeted at the Indian people, which is fine, but I would say if they want a bigger audience (or more box office), ANY of the industries should widen their target. Not only did I find many I watched hard to understand, I got fierce criticism when I mentioned it.

@@order42show About Indian domestic market it is not easy to target audiences of other states's people because every region's people are emotionally stick with their own movie industry.They don't easily accept movies from other Indian movie industry. E. g. If we take example of two movies '3 idiot' and 'pk' that movie became popular in turkey, south Korea countries which both countries normally are not interested about Indian movies and because of those movies Amir Khan has big fan following in turkey. Which situation happened for RRR in America the same situation happened for 3 idiots in Korea means when RRR released in America only Indian audience whose live in America watch that movie and when RRR over to run in American theatre then that movie became popular in America the same think happened about 3 idiots in Korea. When 3 idiots watched by those Indian people whose live in South Korea and movie was run over then that movie became popular in South Korea. Only different is RRR became popular in America because of Netflix and three idiots became popular in South Korea because that movie show in every college and University by projector because theere professors students love that movie and then that movie goes viral. PK and three idiot watched and became popular in those countries who normally don't interested about Indian movies but those both movies can't accept by south indian audience and when south Indian director remake these movies then these remakes became hit in South India. (And this is only one example but not other single north Indian original movie easily accept by south indian audience but their remake became popular in those religions) This is one reason about domestic market affect on box office collection. Some other domestic market reason also Second Reson (about domestic market): effects on box office collection like India is developing country therefore here ticket price rate are not like developed countries Third Reason (about domestic market): people compare movies box office number in dollars with Hollywood movie or in yuan with Chinese movies but every currency have different valuation in international markets and every currency have important value in their own market or country therefore we should understand this

Ellen?

@order42show nope

Oh yeah, BoB is fantastic, even if I wish the packaging was a bit better. And I’m really looking forward to seeing Lawrence on the disc. Love that movie so much!

Well, I mean…not really. Unless you put a picture of you in there.

@order42show i saw the title before watching and thought it was a 3D version of the movie 🤣🤣🤣

Oh…THAT’S what you meant! I thought you meant because you could change the front cover… Yeah, I mean…the 3D is pretty cool in this one. (I’m an idiot.)

@@order42show well.....twitch name 😅😅😅 but i also commented before watching

Oh, I KNOW who you are! I just wasn’t thinking about the 3D of it…because I just wasn’t. Because I dumb.

I actually watched that back in my Blockbuster days! If memory serves, it was spread over three VHS tapes. It was interesting to see everything chronologically, but isn’t my preferred way to experience the story. I found people selling what looks like a rip on Blu-Ray, and wouldn’t be shocked if it’s not available on the internet via…other means. 🏴‍☠️

@ The added scene I’m most intrigued by is the Sicilian bodyguard that blows up Apollonia in the car, gets blown up in his car as revenge in that version, from what I know.

Yes, and I think that deleted scene is on the physical media releases, too.

From what I’ve seen (and I still haven’t seen some of the more recent ones), I don’t think any of them are BAD, rather sort of…fine. But I do know a lot of people who really can’t stand some of them.

Yeah, I feel like it really points to multiple people, too. And I don’t remember those other names, but it has been a while since I REALLY dug into everything. I got really frustrated with the lack of solid facts on the case, so I checked out and have probably forgotten most of what I’d read!

@@order42show It's funny how each of those many suspects could really be the real Zodiac. They were all acting weird and suspicious and all of them were in the area at the time. On December 20, 1968, when the Zodiac killed those two teenagers, there actually were a lot of witnesses around. Another young couple was at the same location about an hour before the murders, sitting in a car at a lover's lane. These two were originally alone when a blue car, possibly a Valiant (or a light-colored Chevy), suddenly stopped and backed up towards them. They didn't like it at all and pulled out of the turn-off. The blue car was following them for a while and then disappeared. According to the report, there were 2 white males in the blue car. The driver had a crew cut and glasses which would be the same appearance like the cabbie killer sketch. The 1968 survivor Michael Mageau and the 1969 victim Cecelia Ann Shepard described the Zodiac as heavyset, 200 pounds, 5'8''- 5'11'', curly hair, light brown almost blond. In the 60s, Arthur Leigh Allen was already almost bald and really overweight (according to his driver's license: 250lbs).

Hahaha...yeah, I had a fun time with it. And only a few will ever see it!

Oh, I do, too, for the reasons I stated. Maybe unfair because it was my "comeback" movie, but I think it earned it!

Hmmm…I LOVE it!

Hahaha, that’s great!

Yeah, I…don’t think I’m down to see that in the theater. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@order42show Ok I just inform casually many reviewers otherwise I know you don't like first part I can understand because directors shivkumar's movie heroes are very egoistic and they behave like villain and only those people like his movies who became familiar with that actor

No, just 25 in the set. There was one that Katsu directed in 1989 called “Darkness is his Ally” that isn’t included. If you want to know more details on the set, check out The Digital Bits review here: thedigitalbits.com/item/zatoichi-blind-swordsman-bd

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They're all good in their own way. I still love Enter the Dragon the most of Lee's movies, but I'm glad I own the rest of them in good quality!

Wha...?

@order42show its a quote from the wrestler Dusty Rhodes

Ohhhh...yeah, I wouldn't know about that...😁

@@order42show lol i know, i just say it like he did every time i see 30 🤣

Absolutely valid. I also suspect that it's why in the series they didn't release the results of the blood on the knife. But yeah, I just don't get it. Like...why did ALA WANT to be known as the Zodiac? Was it because he knew the Zodiac and was covering for him? Was he just lonely and sad and loved the attention? Who actually WAS the Zodiac then? So many questions left... I just want to know what the truth is. I haven't looked into this stuff in a long time now, so I don't know what to believe anymore.

Yeah, it started off really well. We’ve all been burned in the past, so I’m cautiously optimistic. Though, I’m not sure what they copied…? I know those movies pretty well, and nothing’s coming to mind…

I just wrote a much longer reply and it would not let me post it! I listed all the copycat moments...

I think the trick is to just get in there and do the thing. If I were to do this, I would just lay all the footage on the timeline and start trimming away. I'd figure out how I'd want to split it (if at all) based on what's left after the trims. But I'm sure others probably watched it a lot and took notes on what they wanted to cut out, and I just don't have the patience for that kind of work. The eagles are some of my favorite things about the books/movies/cartoons. I think it all started with that original cover of The Hobbit I read showing the company in the eagles' nest talking to the Great Eagle.

It’s a marketing thing. They probably tried to spread the most popular Bond movies over the sets so that people would have to buy some or all to get their favorites. If I’d chosen to display them in their individual cases, I’d totally put them in order!

No, Covenant was not really well-received, critically and from the box-office. Covenant made $240M worldwide on a $97M budget. My guess is that after promotional costs (which had to be high for such a high profile release) and paying the theaters, they probably didn’t break even during the run. It’s not really up to Ridley - the studios pay for the movie, so if they don’t think it makes sense financially, they don’t greenlight it. My guess is that from Prometheus to Covenant, they saw a 40% drop in revenue and thought…this just isn’t worth the gamble.

Absolutely! Don’t own it, but I have seen a few episodes.

I thought I’d responded to this! Sorry… So, the link was in Adam’s trailer (which is in the description). But that link took me nowhere, so…I am not sure where to find this now!

​@@order42show I found a Mega link in one of the comments of his trailers but it doesn't have audio and I have to use something to make it sound.

Very strange! He might’ve just taken it down everywhere.

I’ve only seen this once, but have been meaning to watch it again. I’m wondering if that was why I found it so hard to connect with the movie…? (Thanks for watching, though, and no worries about being late!)

@order42show it's possible. There are some really odd moments where the score is tripping all over the place. But I think the movie, while noble, is overall a bit of a mess. It's Scott slowing down because a shot is pretty rather than because it does anything (eg the woodcutter ants), etc. Shame because the cast is absolutely top notch.

Absolutely! I know that they were in a bit of a rush because they wanted it released for the 500th anniversary. I’d heard that Ridley said he wanted to do a director’s cut - I’d love to see that!

Yeah, it feels like they decided to end the series at some point after production already began. One of the things I loved about S1 was the blending of different styles of animation, which probably added to the production time. There was a lot fewer of those scenes in S2 as well. It’s really the story that suffered the most, though.