Cable TV Strikes Back! Comcast's Streaming Bundle Targets Ala Carte Consumers
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:18 - Comcast's Bundle Deal
02:52 - Cable Companies Profit from Streaming
04:46 - Other Comcast Bundles
06:11 - More Bundling!
07:55 - Streaming Financial Difficulties & Churn
10:18 - Winners
11:04 - Losers
12:04 - The Future
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The only winning move is to not play. Not many people are going to do this, but "go without" is definitely a choice.
I still have my DVDs and BluRays of all my favorite movies. I have pleny of players. I acquire more DVDs when I see things I want at a good price. I've got an OTA setup and RUclips to watch. So they can stick it!
Don't forget the TV equipment fees, along with the Broadcast TV fee and the Sports TV fee. Add them all up and they cost more than the actual TV plan price. In other words, when you show a $70 fee for the Popular TV option, that's only about half of the total monthly bill depending on how many cable boxes you need. Even on a 2 year contract, including internet, the total price with two cable boxes and a gateway, you're looking at more than $200. That's why so many people hate Comcast/Xfinity. You sign up for 2 years expecting a certain price, but in reality you wind up paying at least double that amount. And the only part of the price, even on a contract, that doesn't change is the base price. They can and will change the prices for the Broadcast and Sports fees whenever they want, and the same applies to rental fees for equipment. You can bet they will also play pricing games with these new streaming bundles and try to lock you into a 2 year contract. The old dog is not likely to change it's spots.
Totally.. I experienced this with my Mom's service last year: ruclips.net/video/UW5zqs5M2wI/видео.html
Last I checked, they had changed the law and they must honor the advertised price without any "fees". They can still try the two year contract deal, but if they advertise $64.95 for gigabit internet, the total bill is $64.95. That said, I think cable companies underestimate how passionately consumers hate them. I will pay extra to avoid dealing with them.
This is why I always ask for 'taxes' and other 'fees' before getting any service. I learned this way back in the early 2000's. and still ask to this day. and also ask if there is a contract.
They will ad fees and price hikes in a few months or a years. Comcrap always does. That price is only good for 6 months or a years
I gave cable providers here in Canada a special salute 4 years ago. They squeeze Canadians left right and center. The Canadian government passed a federal requirement that streaming services had to pay a fee for streaming in Canada. The incumbents that own the internet also own the cellular networks as well. They have bought up the small cell providers. There are no small internet providers. I pay for Netflix and that is it and that price is going up because they are cancelling their grandfathered in plan.
We have it bad here in the US with service providers, but nowhere nearly as bad as what Canadians experience.
Does anyone else see the streaming services introducing a disconnect fee or a reconnection fee. I can see them introducing a big fee to stop people from churning.
just use a different email.
Or just delete your payment info and stop forever.
Honestly, I can't believe that streamers haven't introduced a fee yet. It seems an obvious move to me.
That would be a bogus charge because they aren't connecting or disconnecting anything. A cable TV or phone company has to make or break a physical connection so they can charge fees for doing so. A streaming company doesn't have such setups. When you connect to RUclips, you don't pay them a connection fee nor would you - they don't have to do anything different for just you to be able to connect to them that they don't already do to allow any of their users to connect.
Best option stop watching everything go out and touch grass. :)
Why are you here watching this and not out touching grass?
@@chrisrgutierrez …because LordFalon and just about everyone else these days, can go out and touch grass, while using a phone or tablet to watch RUclips vids. I also understand that an unlimited data plan can greatly help in allowing for this. :)
@@chrisrgutierrez was touching grass while watching, brother.
What type of grass?
Bermuda probably
Let me remind people why people started cutting the cord. It was never about the price of cable, it was the absolute refusal to give the customer a la carte choices.
Even senator John McCain went to war against the cable companies when it came to ala carte services with cable. Me personally, I would not have had ESPN. But since the cable companies, comcast, didn't give me a choice I cut the cord.
Disney is the reason you had ESPN in all packages or no Disney channels; that was the deal that cable was forced to accept. All the content providers used their leverage for decades until the internet and Netflix forced a change.
John McCain loved going to war. So I believe you.
Cutting the cord was also about cutting out commercials. If they sell bundles without commercials at a reasonable price, it will succeed. If they don't offer bundles without commercials or they charge outrageous prices for them, they won't be any better off than they are now.
It doesn't make sense to have 400 channels when you're only watching 4. I have been waiting for the a la carte for years. I will see if this changes in time. Eventually, people will cut the cable cord if prices keep rising.
Comcast has revealed the price of their Apple TV, Netflix, and Peacock bundle: $15 a month. That price will give you ads on Netflix and Peacock (at this time Apple has no ad tier). No word on what an all ad free plan will cost.
Long story short the business model is collapsing and now the entertainment companies are trying to make up ground. The cable business was one of the most profitable enterprises ever. Forcing everyone to pay for channels they didn’t want, from sports to home shopping. When cord cutting started in earnest 7 to 8 years ago conventional wisdom was viewers would replace cable with a cable alternative like Sling TV or PSVue. Turns out one in three cord cutters felt they needed a live TV service. This trickled down to cable channels and your local network affiliates who as of the mid 2000s were making more money from retransmission fees than selling ads.
Super informative. I can say the people I know at Comcast haven't gotten them memo yet so this was 100% news to them.
I ain't paying for any bundles now and don't intend to ever. Nothing on paid TV is that compelling. I do fine with OTA, FAST channels and plain old RUclips.
You might go down to the bay. The water is warm.
That's ok they already rape you on internet charges. Back before streaming stole cable TV revenue, internet was really cheap compared to cable TV subscription. When people started dropping cable tv for streaming, the cable companies starting jacking up the price for internet. On top of that, they extort streaming companies who would like their customers to have a better streaming experience, who in turn pass the costs along until it finally reaches you - the end user/viewer.
Thanks you honestly just explained everything I wanted to know in a nut shell!
I guess i should keep on buying the Blu-rays as much a possible and keep an at home media server so i can limit how many streaming services i will need
Keep up your good information, well appreciated ❤
But net Neutrality rules passed by FCC now bans comcast from doing that. "It prohibits internet service providers from blocking, throttling, or engaging in paid prioritization of lawful content."
Those same rules were with the last set of neutrality regulations. This is not blocking, throttling, etc - it was a specific (albeit arbitrary) limit to the bandwidth on the edge of their network.
so interesting wish tv was great like in the early 2000s
I added an antenna and play for the basic service from Spectrum, only paying for Disney+ & Paramount+! (Star Wars & Star Trek fan!)
This is interesting for sure. I wonder if the Comcast bundle will be linked to the existing email account ID for each streaming service. People love their watch lists!
Excellent informative video
Prediction, there will be a lot of buy outs and take overs, Mergers. It won't be long, it will be more expensive than Cable.
Sadly that's probably true. I'll just watch YT.
@@sinebar All I need is my Antenna, YT, Pluto and Tubi. More content than I can ever watch. All for the price of 0.00. And Internet.
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In my testing they performed exactly the same. It’ll work on the iPad too as I demoed.
Thank you
Nice informative video. The Comcast rates you showed in your video, are exactly what they are in the Nashville Tennessee market. And Comcast has started their Now Internet service to compete with T-Mobile and Verizon 5G wireless Internet service. I hope you do a video on this. The caveat is that you cannot be currently subscribed to their standard XFi Internet service.
You're forgetting about the broadcast fee and other fees - Spectrum went from 65/mo to 112/mo
Phew! It's cold outside in this crazy crazy world! But bundling up is the last thing I want to do! Lol
streaming services used to be a cheaper, more affordable option....but prices have crept up and up and up and up. You can't even get the sports channels you want unless you pay an arm and leg again 😂
I’m wondering how ATSC 3.0 will affect the shapeshifting infrastructure?
Soon, we should be able to easily access the local and perhaps more traditional “broadcast” type content via ATSC 3.0. This could make for an even smarter, smart TV. Especially, if the task of content browsing, screening, planning-to-watch, and recording becomes more democratized via hardware/software DVR technologies (TiVo, Tablo, etc.). Especially if that technology is somehow integrated into the average “smart” TV!
All of these tech channels need to stop misleading people about Amazon forcing people to subscribe through them when you install an app on their platform. It's an option. There is also an option to install the app without subscribing through them. Use your eyes and read.
No more cable for me Lon.😊
Koodo does in Canada
Amazon Prime is another bundle king. They have decent originals and some terrific ones too on top of the shopping platform perks.
Same here. No bundles for me.
Spectrum has the xumo streaming box with cable, local channels, and Disney Plus. It comes preloaded with streaming apps . They're getting rid of the cable box. This eliminates the need for other streaming devices and smart TVs. I'm sure they're doing this to lock in people who don't want to or don't have technical know-how to set this up on their own.
I feel like we are only a year or so away from streaming providers requiring a year-long contract/commitment.
Well, fortunately, it's summertime, so I can get in the pool or on the boat, the hell with tv. 73
My total cost for tv each month is whatever the power cost of my hdhomerun with storage is. No reason to pay for anything else.
I happily pay for none of them; physical media, RUclips, Twitch, and PlutoTV provide all the entertainment I need.
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Wrong. You need Netflix, and RUclips. No one knows what twitch is and no one knows what Pluto is other than a small planet
@@ericB3444 Former planet!
@@LonSeidman it may get replanetized if it’s suggested that it’s sad or offers to open Pluto syrups farms in which case your brother can sponsor replanethood.
Plex, and Pluto (and of course RUclips) work for me. My wife must have Netflix, because she knows how to access it (dedicated button on the Nvidia Shield). I can't wait until Google Fiber let's me connect to the fiber they laid in my yard 3 months ago. Goodbye Cox!
I haven't used cable in twenty years. That being said cable is not going nowhere. I use over the air channels or go down the street to the movie theater.
Hulu, Disney and ESPN have been bundled together for 3 years. They're in the process of combining Hulu and Disney into a single app With a few other acquisitions, and they have a full cable package
That’s a little different because those three are all owned by the same company (Disney). What’s new is that you now have competing companies (Disney, Warner Bros., Comcast/NBC Universal) having their products bundled tougher (somewhat reminiscent of the old cable TV model where channels from competing companies were carried on one cable system).
The main reason I cut the cord is the price.
Most of the shows I watch on Netflix are K-Dramas,so much more entertaining than American and especially British TV.
At the end of the day, they're still CONCAST!
This feels like it might be the first step in eventually dropping the traditional cable channel model all together. Why have a cable box that serves you ESPN 2 on channel 35(or whatever it is in your area) when they can give you a streaming box with the ESPN-Disney-Hulu bundle?
I agree with your assessment. Cable and satellite TV service isn't as profitable anymore. Bundling the streaming services with a significant discount is a good move for Comcast. Internet service and mobile phone service is now the cash cow for providers like Charter and Comcast. I remember when I called Comcast to drop cable TV service last year, they didn't go through the "better deal" schtick that they did 5-6 years ago. They offered me a 12 month discount for the next step up in Internet speed. I just signed up for Comcast's Xfinity Mobile BOGO for their tier 1 unlimited mobile service for a year, and me and my significant other both have Pixel 7 phones, we get a 10.00 discount for 12 months for each of our phones, since we were able to bring our own phones. Even when the BOGO deal and 10.00/month off deal goes away, we will still save a nice chunk of $$$ than what we were paying for T-Mobile service.
The only subscription service I pay for is RUclips premium. Yeah, they're starting to get to be a bit unruly with their price increases however with the fact that you can have five RUclips accounts tied to it makes it pretty bearable. Other than that I have my Plex server.
I get the most value out of my RUclips Premium subscription for sure!
YT Premium has had unruly price increases? I think there has been very few , maybe just two , in the eight years I've been using it. Easily best $15 per month I've spent on any subscription. And I have used just YT Premium for at least 3 years now.
My biggest wish is if like paramount and hbo merge and made a app together all their content plus a lite tv package like Philo in the app like I wouldn’t be mad paying 40 a month for something like that
I agree with don’t pay, ‘cuz there’s more to life than sitting on my arse and getting my brain spoon fed
Netflix is Add (and lots of ads) plus much not available at that tier. DVR limited to 20 hrs. if you add NOW - Not a good deal
I've never had cable
I guess Philo isn't paying to have a server inside the Internet provider? Can that explain all the buffering I get on Philo
Sky has been doing this for years in the UK, bundling Netflix, Discovery+ and Paramount into packages!
Wait ... If they bundle these channels together we can have all the shows we used to have in one place like we used to but now at a higher price! Awesome....... 😢
Usually agree with you Lon but @cordkillers take on this was better... the amount of dominos that would need to fall in place is laughable... you can also still buy things individually and monthly... you also have choice, used to be you only had one, maybe two options for cable tv in most areas...
I'll stay with my iptv service.
Who needs cable TV, when broadcast TV has added more channels since converting from analog to digital? I get my local news, public television, plus subchannels featuring a variety of entertainment this way, including MeTV, H&I, Antenna TV, Rewind TV, etc.
That is until they encrypt everything
@@LonSeidman I hope not...
I have Comcast service today and have considered dropping their "Cable TV" service and just keep the internet through them. It turns out my bill would drop by about $10 (?!?!?!?!) if I got rid of their cable tv from my current bill. Meanwhile, Disney+, Hulu, Apple TV+, Paramount Plus, Netflix, etc... all together come at a huge additional charge for what USED to be just part of cable TV. This is a lose-lose for cable TV consumers either way. :(
They are the masters of the bundle!
Physical media, kodi with free over the air channels and modded version youtube to bypass the ads and bypass the sponsors in the youtube videos is better than having to pay overpriced subscription fees when they keep on increasing the subscription fees and still include ads for paid subscription fees that would be based on tiers from the lowest tier to the highest tier. Out of nowhere the tv providers would just keep on nickel and dimming the consumers just to get rid of the ads or minimalized amount of ads being showed for the highest tier than eventually a premium tier. For example, the lowest tier would have the most ads and the highest tier would have a least amount of ads and than a premium tier would be introduced later on and have no ads by paying for a premium price with no ads. The corporations and tv providers might change there might and charge fees for every channel instead of providing bundles because it's just a temporary solution. Nowadays the large majority of products and services are full of cash grabbing schemes in order to make a quick buck and that they want to go the ala carte route with streaming on top of subscription fees that are already included in the terms and conditions with force arbitration.
Great video Lon. Comcast is getting desperate, I just negotiated Fast internet for $55 month including the $10 discount for bank withdrawal. Guaranteed rate for 24 months without a contract.
do you rent their gateway? also how fast is your internet speeds?
I have my own modem/router 500 mbps down and 25 mbps up. Speed test shows actual speed is 575.
@@joanie5812 okay, i use their modem though and i do that because i havent had good luck with modems since most that i had before had broken on me. and yes i tried them all but that also was like 20 years ago
the only thing about renting their modems is that if it breaks they will replace it no questions asked. so in that sense i have peace of mind. though kudos on you for paying a lower price.
Yeah for xfinity tv it's $30 just for the tv privilege fee tax (rebroadcast) ..
On any plan from boomer base local to every thing ever $300 plan..
Yeah it's totally insane
Comcast will play their normal games. They'll advertise the streaming bundle for $50/mo, and you'll end up paying $200/mo.
It’s almost as if we, as consumers, knew that streaming wouldn’t be a perpetual money bucket.
I don't subscribe to more than 1 or 2 streaming services at a time. I watch all the content I want to consume on their service then drop them. This way my monthly streaming bill is about the same. I also get the lowest priced tier I can from my ISP. The speed is more than fast enough for me and I don't give them a dime more than I need to. If it's done in a strategic way ala carte services still saves me the most money.
Cox doesn't understand, I will pay extra just to no longer have to deal with them.
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I don't have none of these problem, Arrr!
The only reason I'm with Comcast is because they're literally my only option. As soon as fiber comes to my neighborhood I'm ditching them and never looking back.
3:51 which is Comcast double dipping and it is BS!
Until those streaming services start to charge the cable companies MORE for these "channels" - also fees, fees and more fees - the entire industry needs a reset....
5% is an unaccpetable high churn rate?
I would rather pay a little more each month to have the freedom to quit one of these streaming services. Learn the hard way that lock-in is the ultimate enemy. For instance, AT&t prepaid will give you a year for $300 at 8 GB a month or something. It's 30 bucks a month for 5 GB. Under the former if AT&t pisses you off you can't leave at least not for a while..
I'm just officially done with postpaid carriers and the worst is trade-ins that involve bill credits. That was the worst decision I ever made.
It's also helpful that if you live with other people you can each pay for one subscription service a month or something and then share passwords but obviously these days you might have to live in the same house with them.
The price of cable and streaming sites, is only a small part of the problem. The real problem is that TV and streaming companies are producing Shyte programming that no one wants to watch ! They are all in with their DEI programming and productions and Disney, Netflix and even the BBC with Doctor Who are seeing the lowest ratings of their shows in history
Netflix has had a jump start against it's competitor's 🤔🤔🤔...umm, their competitors are a century old and have tons and tons of movies and TV shows. Netflix is literally an infant compared to Disney, Paramount, Peacock (Universal)...
They have more new original content - that's what people apparently want to pay for.
I don’t like com cast cause they only have plans with contracts
Lol you had to know this was coming. Greedy streaming providers could shoot themselves in the foot at the rate they're going. People generally want all their stuff in one place. It will be interesting to see what happens.
If I was to get charged just because I downloaded an app, they're going to get a cussing and chargeback.
comcast = data cap. is it still like that?
Not all regions have caps
@@LonSeidman aaaah, so. i was in MN a few years back and ‘twas capped. ok, plus for comcast. sort of. haha. here in switzerland, 10gbit up/down, no cap (fr, fr) cca 100$. which seems a lot, but then again theres only three tiers, two being gig speeds and lower gig speed is 1gbit for like 80$. i was paying spectrum almost the same for 250/20 back in 2021. man, i miss the good ole us of a (*insert ‘dear diary’ moment*), despite supporting spectrum monopoly in both (first) NE and (later) SC and only dreaming about 10gig. aaanyways, keep up the good work. cheers!
These cable companies are doing a real good job at promoting piracy and I am fine with that. Plus there is nothing on TV or at the movies I would pay a nickel for so I could personally care less what scheme they come up with.
I can get the ad free versions of most of these with huge disounts or cash back, so Comcast's bundle is not appealing at all.
It's kind of sad to see what the internet is becoming.
I dont like cable or apps anymore. Its all a waste of money 😂 now we are ahead of them and making them broke?! Whatever Im done with having a hole in my pocket aka less money. Ill continue with internet until i have less money. We should stay tune in if they increase the internet prices again or what?!
I'm going out for a walk 😮 instead of watching too much TV.
This is why I've been building up my Plex server
I wish they would stop approving every merger....
dont you have net neutrality now. ie not prioritized traffic in any way. funny how people judge them being "just" in their own eyes. I hate people and people's rules, and people judging by their rules.
We're all losing here, most of us just don't see it
Exactly..
#Back2TheFuture smh
I will stick to piracy through a VPN and onto my openmediavault.
We are SO happy to be free of comcast and their bundles, fees and such. We will not subscribe to bundles of anything. We just subscribe to a few networks to watch what we want, when we want to watch. I don’t care about stockholders of the huge media companies. They can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.
I’ll never go back to cable TV. Month to month streaming. Subscribe, binge, unsubscribe. Rinse repeat.
People paying for the commercial subscription in or out of the bundles is more of the problem I see. Cable started out without commercials and then moved to commercials that got more and more obtrusive which became more of a problem for me. Don't think "they" won't do the same thing with internet streaming if they see people are willing to pay for these commercial tiers at a slightly cheaper rate which will only go up in price if they completely switch to the paid commercial model like cable.
Just go get a digital antenna and be done with all of these shenanigans.
Cable will forever be a waste of time, money and resources
Ads? No thanks.
Apple tv ,Netflix, Hulu cable just sucks they play same shit on all there channels .
Everybody cancel Comcrap let em go BANKRUPT
easier said than done if cumcast is the only choice we have.
In the case of Disney it’s not just prices. It’s go woke go broke.
What did they do that upset you? Advocate for nondiscrimination?
Why do people think it's cool to overuse the buzzword "woke"?
Oh boy bundles of mostly crap and a few good shows for $150 or more a month. Yeah we've seen that movie and it sucked. I'm sticking with streaming.
Bundles are inherently anti-choice. That is their purpose: to remove the consumer's ability to choose individual services and keep them paying for things they don't want.
I just want to watch Fox news that is all
yeah i cut the cord for good. unfortunately though they have me paying for internet service. my old man pays for netflix now but i aint watching that garbage. i also have paramount but that's a byproduct of having walmart plus and i again, even though i have it i still dont watch.
until they fix their programming with woke garbage i wont be coming back
It’s like cable only more garbage.
Thanks I want to unsubsceibe from specific channels. I don't speak Spanish and don't want to pay for Univision same for CNN I don't watch and want to keep my money spending on channels I want...
Xfinity is like changing the rims on a car but leaving the old tires on there, LOL! The TV content STILL SUCKS!!!!! It's hollywood not the provider!
Ugh. These corporations are just like the old att. They will not go away no matter what we do