Is South Florida Soundcloud Rap Really The New Punk Rock? | Genius News
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Today, hip-hop is king of the block, and although the state of mainstream rap is quite healthy, something akin to punk has been happening on the internet. Taking full advantage of platforms like Soundcloud, a new generation of artists unofficially headquartered in South Florida has circumvented traditional gatekeepers and introduced a divisive new sound marked by raw, aggressive beats and confrontational lyrics.
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It's disrespectful not mentioning Denzel Curry or SpaceGhostPurp in this video they're the pioneers to this new punk rap from Florida
Mr. Sombrero they're not really punk tho
Mr. Sombrero space ghost sucks
Mr. Sombrero lmao they don’t care about the culture isn’t that apparent?
SGP and Denzel are WAY above these other retards.
Fuck purp
I think the biggest similarities between soundcloud rap and punk rock (regardless of weather you think soundcloud rap is the new punk or not) is that both genres rose up from disaffected youth and took the mainstream by storm, stuck around for about two too three years, and then died out in its purest form leaving a generation with an entirely new conception and sound for what music can be. Things in the future will likely still be called soundcloud rap, just as they used to be called punk, when in reality they are more accurately described as rap/rock that wouldn't be able to exist if it weren't for those early pioneers of soundcloud rap/punk rock.
Facts
Same as most genres bro even rock, most creative people are working class n therefore rebellious. N often show that through music which isnt taken well by the mystery men🌐
i would disagree.
eventough the people who made both genres came from a similar type of background the acctual music is a lot different.
Punk rock constisted (mostly) of a drummer, a bass and a singer.
the rap is just a singer with a loud instumental that doenst even have a bass in there.
also punk also consisted of the "no future" idea which rappers dont have at all
Eskeddit
lmao now he talks shit about pump
Blacky my boy 💯
Can BlackySpeakz reply after 3 years?
Lol
Nigga!
most punk rock is pretty anti corporate consumerism lol these edgy kids screaming about gucci bags & supreme
harley cargile which is what you can't afford
It's a boomerang - They now kinda parody consumerism.
god ki 21 and how does this relate to what he said?
huh?
god ki 21 that has nothing to do with what he said
I agree with Soundcloud rap wave of 2010's being a punk movement. Punk rock is a genre, though, and I don't think that brand of rap can be compared to punk rock in any way but its origin and the people surrounding it rather than the music itself.
Tiffanny Plz Why you're so low...
huh? sorry I don't understand what you meant mate
punk is the genre, punk rock is a subgenre just like pop punk and ska punk are their own subgenres
punk rock is a genre of rock music, ska punk and pop punk fuse punk rock with pop and ska.
@@semicolon6294 Shut up bitch it's punk rap!
If you want punk rap, Nascar Aloe
YES.
PUNKS ONLY
"xxxtentacion and ski mask gave birth to new sounds like suicideboys and ronny j"WTF is the other way around
Fuckin ronnyj lived with x for a bit (which is where there similarities meet) and suicide boys produce their own shit... So wtf
Deadass what i was thinking lol
$uicide started in 2014 and I guarantee they had no idea who the fuck X and Ski were.
Ronny j produced for x and ski they worked together
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Jesus yall fucked this up. What about Denzel Curry, SGP, & Raider Klan? The scene's existed for more than 20 minutes.
Also, saying XXX influenced $uicideboy$ & Ronny J is fucking disrespectful and flat out wrong. It's the other way around, and honestly, all this gritty lo-fi rap is an offshoot of Memphis horrorcore from the 90s anyway. If you wanna really take a look at the people who started it, lookup old stuff from Three 6 Mafia, Tommy Wright III, Skimask Troopaz, and Lil Noid.
Nigga they are not punk. This whole “rockstar” thing is annoying is shit. Yall hip hop stars. Thats it
nPlatin no its not. If anything this is all an insult to rock n roll. Just cause u think this soundcloud movement is trash doesnt mean its not hip hop
Chief Sosa stfu
you dumbass its says its the "new" punk. he just mentions similarities calmntf down
GhettoWood FB it literally says “is punk”. Punk rock stars didnt flex designer and dont just talk about drugs and women. This video is so trash. Not to mention all the false shit. Bro said X and Ski paved the way for suicideboys. Might have to smash that mf unsubscribe button
Not to mention that XXXTentacion tried to sacrifice Slump God
John Santana wait what?
John Santana that's not punk
bruuh
fuck xxx
idk dude that's pretty punk
Sid Vicious is turning in his grave right now...
arsonmusicc 😂😂😂
Of all the people you could have mentioned, you settle on the one "punk icon" who has the MOST in common with these rappers.
ARSON could’ve said anyone else but no you pick that guy
ARSON 💯
Propably just proud
I agree with the punk relation, but it’s not punk rock. Its a punk phase of hip-hop, whose mainstream is glossy and already political in nature. These artists, stretching farther than south Florida, are dirty, rude, and controversial, similar to the Sex Pistols and the Dolls. But this new movement is punk in its meaninglessness. The way that the music is about the sound, bumping bass, and rude lyrics avoiding the politics produced by Kendrick, j cole, kanye, and other contemporary artists.
Wangster Rappers trying to be alternative just makes them more fake
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It's Real Punk Rap
The fact that Lil pump gets attention in the rap game is an embarrassment to the culture....Worldstar and DJ akademiks are both killing the culture
Adekunbi salako lil pump is the worst thing to happen to the culture
Adekunbi salako you listen to drake shut the fuck up. The only person who ruins the culture more than pump is drake
Lil Pump is a Harvard Dropout and he is the best lyricist in the game right nowPERIOD
Lil pump dropped out of hip hop to save harvard.
For real, he's about to make top 10 on billboard. just what the fuck america. And to be frankly honest, I have no fucking idea why Gucci Gang charted and is doing so well when it's basically the same shit as his other songs which didn't chart.
Yall talking about "killing the culture" dont know shit about rap smh
anthony fantano already told us this but ok
Punk rock will be punk rock forever ... and non of these rappers gonna come in betweeen....
nobody said it was replacing punk try listening to what the fuck they're saying next time
Punk rock is ass, hip hop been the wave
Jamarius Mullen What you Trap niggas are doing, Rock did it first. You guys are just evolving to fucking slow.
Thank you
Soo true
Punk is about anarchy and anti consumering, most of the florida rap songs are about gucci and consumerist shit
it's closest to punk we'll get to in 2017 tbh with one huge difference, punk was never really about flashing ur newfound wealth no matter how poor u used to be
why everyone trynna make rap out to be genres it's not?
Cause people miss the good ol' days when rock was on top and need a way to relate to what's on top now
Stephone the jerk Hip hop was built upon funk, jazz, soul, and disco samples back in the 1970s with heavy Jamaican influences. It's been mixing with rock, metal, electro-funk and house since the 80's, this is nothing new.
Because you get these people stuck in the past who thinks "rap" has to be done a certain way.
avp927 if people miss it so much, why isn't it the most popular genre of music anymore? 🤔
Because like every other genres of music it has sub genres. Punk rap is a good name for this type of rap.
No matter what genre you put Pump in, he still trash
Yea u right
Snob elitist
He is god of the genre trash rap tho
He's Punk Rap!
@@NiteDriv3r where the punk at 😂
Disrespectful not mentioning Raider Klan n SGP, they pioneered this
*”punk aaas fuuu”*
Rage The Menace lmao same
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Aldo Why tf u got the same name as me and ur profile picture are my shoes
Ayyy broward Kidd where u at
Nigguhhh spuyhh yuhhhaahh!
I guess anti-establishment is now considered flexing and flaunting their wealth. I don't have a problem with either genre, but this is so wrong. South Florida rap is mainstream, you hear these songs on the radio and pretty much everyone enjoys them. Punk is counter culture, it's mainstream to an extent, but how many modern rap albums have had their records banned in stores or be the subject of heavy political debate?
brolindres Let’s be real; it’s 2017- what artist, in ANY genre, is going to have their record outright banned nowadays?
Julian Green ok, and that's also a main problem with this video. There is nothing truly shocking in music currently. And while nothing has been outright banned, you have to have seen at least a petition to get a film or a video game banned.
brolindres sure, but art isn’t made in a vacuum. Almost every taboo has been broken already; what’s left to “shock” people with?
Yeah I’ve occasionally seen petitions against films, video games and music, but they were roundly ignored. None of them became a flashpoint for political discussion.
Julian Green I agree, I also feel like hip hop needs it own identity and companies like genius need to stop labeling it as "the new ____". Imagine if every piece of art was compared to something great instantly, it would never be able to stand on its own.
Denzel Curry is from South Florida and really fits the description you're giving Punk. He's very counter culture and makes his dislike of American governmental methods known while repping the philosophies of his area. His most recent project, the 13 EP, is the best example of all this in my opinion but we'll see if he continues on that route. I don't listen to Punk so I really don't know if Curry fits the bill of "Punk Rap" but be sure to let me know what you think of him in reference to that
I can see the resemblance to punk. The shit lyrics, unorthodox lazy flows, pure recklessness, drugs and they're young. Just like the Sex Pistols and it's contemporaries. Shit lyrics, shit catchy riffs, horrible musicianship, and attitude. Every "rockstar" back in the day gave them shit for not sounding/playing good. Just like today, old rappers shitting on these young dudes.
Sounds like punk to me. Hip hop/rap going through a punk and pop phase. I'm more of a rock/metal guy so I may not like it, but respect the music "existing." And there's plenty of young folk who actually like it.
I can’t believe he mentioned Lil pump but not Denzel
Ski Mask > The rest
Demilade Olaleye Denzel Curry> Ski Mask
CloudfallGaming true
Bobby Tarantino III haha nice try but no
Bobby Tarantino III suicideboys is just trash af
Bobby Tarantino III they have hard beats but they don't have the voice for it
you can't talk about South Florida rappers pioneering this punk rock scene without mentioning SpaceGhostPurrp.
This music scene is the best in a loooong ass time when it comes to $uicideboy$, Pouya, Ghostemane, Denzel Curry, etc shits lit
Thank you for showing ski's older work it is some of my favourite music and i would love if the new fans of his checked it out
You kidding, SoundCloud raps more like hair metal with excessive designer clothing and antics instead of music and emotional songs
SoundCloud and trap rap is basically the hair metal of the 2010s. Hopefully, we get our own Nirvana and grunge era to wash out the mainstream, mundane garbage polluting the airwaves.
@@_PuppetMaster86 bro wtf
Don't ever compare Punk to soundcloud rap
Lies again? Street Fighter USD SGD
Don't ever make this comparison again
It was made in the 70s by grandmaster caz I wonder if you know who he is
Sound cloud is the new CBGBS. Where artist can express themselves with little barriers in the way.
punk's not dead, it's getting even bigger then it already was
Did this shit just compare Purpp to the Sex pistols? Lmaoo
I would say the difference is that punk is not materialistic and they don't brag about doing drugs.
Punk rock had something to stand for this hip hop shit just talks about Gucci and shit even though they dead broke
It was about time psychedelics permeated hip hop . Over the last decade it's went from the rare few to a driving force in lyricism
Calling Lil Pump "Punk Rock" is an insult to all rock genres.
It’s an insult to rock and music as a whole.
It's Pump Rock Fillie Ool!
Punk Rock is harder than clout rap. Take a random member from each of the two genres and put em in a ring.
Xxx is the only one who sounds close enough to punk
Smh
I'm dissapointed in myself for clicking.
When people compare Tupac to Lil Pump it pisses me off for two reasons
1. Tupac is a legendary rapper that has been being played for years, lil Pump will only last maybe a few more years. Also, Tupac is taking about real stuff and problems in the hood. Lil Pump promotes that bad stuff, which can put big problems in the U.S.
2. Them two have different styles, Tupac is like a poet, he is very lyrical. Lil Pump is a hype and... I guess you could say.. repeater? Idk how to say it but he repeats the same stuff *OVER AND OVER*
Nobody compares them
I can almost guarantee nobody who's said this actually meant it
You can't compare totally different even the way punks party
If anything is the "new punk rock", it's GRIME MUSIC.
Fast (140bpm), dark, anti-establishment and abrasive.
Yeah, sure. let's say that hip-hop/trap artists are making "NEW PUNK ROCK" when they clearly don't make anything closer to rock or punk... wtf ????
AdleyMD the only one I would consider punk rock is xxxtentacion
Thank you Wangster Rappers trying to be Alternative just make them more Fake
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Public enemy was the real punk rap
Nothing further from PUNK ROCK... Celebrating consumerism and materialism is the antithesis of Punk.
NWA was Punk.
They may be similar, but educate yourself. Two different subcultures, Two different sounds, two different song structurally, and different concepts. Controversy and Shock and Distortion and anti establishment do not DEFINE punk. Please take this down.
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No. Denzel Curry, Jaden Smith, Kenny Mason, Xxxtentacion, and Patx. Those R the teal artists
Because it's not.Punk is punk and rap is rap.Stop trying to compare things.And the only rapper from south florida that makes quality music right now is Denzel Curry.Lil Pump and Smokepurrp are jokes
nickL yes it is punk rap because they share similarities and Denzel fell off
It doesn't matter if they share similarities.I can accept the punk rap.But it's still not the new punk rock.It's like saying earl sweatshirt is the new radiohead(both alternative).I hate when people compare things.And I agree denzel fell off after 32 zel/planet shrooms but he still makes good music
It's not the new punk rock. It's just punk. Punk is a concept not a genre
The tile clearly says punk rock bro
@nickL Who's saying earl's that? No one's saying that, because there's no reason to claim that. In this case, people are saying it because there's huge parallels, some of which are displayed in this video. No one cares if you disagree, the fact and red lines are right there and no one cares if you agree or disagree.
Yeah, there’s some similarities but I think the whole “punk” label as applied to most of these Florida SoundCloud rappers is really shallow. These new rappers have the DIY aesthetic and the apparent eagerness to violate or exaggerate many of the conventions of their genre that punk rockers had. But beyond that, I think the comparison starts to fall apart.
They have similarities in that they stray from mainstream. The difference is that punk is anti-estabilisment and rebellious with a clear message to it, while Soundcloud really isn't rebellious. It's just alternative rap.
Punk rock and underground rap are like best fucking friends
No it’s not
The irony of being punk trying to gate keep punk and enforce some kind of rule is so halarious
Ski mask n Lil pump 》biggie n pac
i know that it is satire but if it wouldnt you would have just proven that you have less than 70 IQ
Kung-Fu Kenny Family no
Ski Mask can actually rap, Pump cant rap for shit.
RIP X
Stop associating these short bus wastes of nut with Punk. They will never be Punk. If anything they are hybrids of Tunechi, Gucci Mane and Chief Keef. Only South Florida cats worth listening to are Spaceghostpurp, Denzel Curry and Nell.
AJ Higgs people said the same about punk rock back in the day
and $B
Thank you
And Ski bitch
AJ Higgs Gucci Mane and these guys don't sound like that
Im a rapper from Miami FL. I graduated from miami high by calle 8. Its one of the first high schools in the US. Not some yuppie rich area suburb out skirts of fl. Before I was a rapper I was a member of a punk band called Das Phobia. This statement is so untrue. The punk movement isnt about aimless ignorance. A ton of punk bands were spreading awareness and knowledge in their songs like NOFX and others.. Rappers have been already doing this style under the category of rap... why is it now being made into punk? Its offensive. Rap is rap, punk is punk. When I started making rap music I didnt label my music rap punk because i was a punk.. it was rap. You can pay homage to another genre it doesnt make you that genre unless you have all those elements. I would even say an electro punk band would pass with all machines... bit definately not this.. this is so far off from it
Blah this is just too much of a bold statement. They are part of rap. I feel like this dude just wanted to talk about them lol w/e i guess give more light to south fl but yo at least be accurate or just label the video the south fl rappers i like and why i like them.
/endrant
Sorry i just feel you shouldnt redefine something like a genre of music with shallow reasons like attitudes, inaccurate living information and style of conveying message....
They are Reaching. They dont know what Real Punk culture is. Im Talking about the people at Genius that made this video. These new rappers just dont have a name to their EMO ass sub-genre yet so they are tryna put them in a box labelled Punk Rap but they are so far off. Obviously these People at Genius have never heard "Death Grips"
Honestly it's just the people at Genius because these rappers don't classify themselves as anything else but rap
I agree, i didnt think Genius would miss educate people like this
I don't expect much now-a-days people are lost...
You seem so certain and assured here yet you think Rap is a genre. In that case I guess Drum is a genre too alongside Sing. It’s that poor knowledge and assignment of genres to these rappers that undermined your argument really
flexing millions on jewerly and clothes with trash lyrics with 0 impact on society is punk yeah right bro
waterzofnazareth rich old jews using the spastic outbursts of mentally ill teenagers to cash in on edgy kids is pretty much the definition of punk, yeah
I agree
Do yall not watch the video
Juggalo have always been the Alternative version of Rap. Lil Peep and $uicide boy are getting credit because the mainstream accepts. I'm Metalhead 🤘
What was the First Song from smokepurpp?
If you wanna see some real Punk "rap", check out Nascar Aloe
YES.
nascar is trash
@@buns2842 tf up
Are you serious ?
I would say X was the closest to Punk tbh
Daaaamn Ski went and sampled fucking Spongebob's Bubble Bowl preformace on that Death Is Long track!! Shit is dope as fuck!
Rip x
This is exactly what Ive been thinking lately. Its like hip hop punk rock. This is why I love this app and channel
Jason Terance punk is anti establishment hip hop gets money from the establishment
Jason Terance what a fucking closed minded individual
yo I fuck with the guy in the video he funny as shit
NO. there. Its’s just a new wave of rap music and don’t come at me saying its the culture of south Florida rap that’s inspired. because most of the rappers out here are at least 25 years old and are mostly inspired by the 90’s grudge scene and the early to mid 2000’s rap era that fuels their lyrics. Nothing else
I feel you have to make hardcore music to be punk like x ,nascar.,scarlxrd,zillakami etc. Punk has a very hardcore sound for the genre of punk
Don't forget dat *Chance the Rapper* saved soundcloud ass
He didn’t save anything, outside investors did 😂
808 that Mannie fresh pioneered in 1998 arent fast Beats drums and snares
He didn’t even mention Robb Banks, Denzel Curry
Anyone think Tupac and Biggie would turn in their graves if they've seen what rap is now?
Probably
Yung Voorheez no because everything is gonna change at one point.
I think they both wouldn't care at all
Fuck Those Lame Bitches!
South Florida's Sounds Linked Back To SpaceGhostPurrp
Lil Purrp Lil Peep!
@@NiteDriv3r And Also Linked Back To None Other Than The God Of Black Himself
@@Hypn0Ph6nk I'd say Purrp was linked back to three six mafia Horrorcore trap SoundCloud rap all links back to 3666 Mafia
@@NiteDriv3r Hell Yeah So Was Ghostemane Suicideboys City Morgue & Other Underground Legends
I love both genres, but they are still very different
No, not at all. Punk/rock and metal is very different. But I would say cloud rap is raps equivalent to metal/punk for sure.
Little Pump is as much of a punk rocker, as weird al yankovic is a rapper
South Florida is killing hiphop
They showed the projects in miami when he was talking about broward
This is not fucking punk no rebellion the closest new trap artist to punk is nascar aloe
Yeah, no. Lil pump is not punk.
Exactly
Lil Pump shouldn't even be compared to punk, his music doesnt, and I repeat, DOESNT SAY SHIT. POINT BLANK PERIOD. Also, if you're gonna talk about the sound, don't bring up the cover boy of the sound if they have nothing to do with the production besides spewing random shit on the mic.
Denzel from florida and fits this criteria, especially the last one, why wasnt he mentioned tho
Punk rock uses actual instruments, and you had to have talent to play, unlike soundcloud shit
Okay so we’ve completely lost control of our culture... fuck complex, genius and anybody else taking away from RAP!!! I hate the generation I’m growing up in. I’m not from Florida so I can’t really speak on it from their perspective but still man. This is Hip Hop.
its rap man
Music evolves bro
If you don't like the music then just fucking listen to your oldschool hiphop and stop wasting everyones time by expressing your opinion that no one wants to hear.
Marlo Scouting rap and hip hop are separate now a days
I live in broward and it’s more like hardcore heavy metal rap
Punk rock = Anti-corporate
South Florida rap = Showing off clothes and drugs
South Florida rap is an insult to music as a whole
Rock Rawk mane is given it too ya not given a fuck nigyah!
Suicide Boys been doing this since before Lil pump was a teenager not the other way around. Respect the people who laid the groundwork
Punk Rock : Paramore , all time low , Linkin Park, fall out Boy , green day and blink 182
Hip hop : lil shit , shit shit shit.
Big difference.
Lil pump > Tupac
Mystique no
Lil Pump > Nas
Lil pump > N.W.A
Tupac oldschool and lil pump trap... wtf lil pumd > 2pac??????????
Lil pump ≠ Lil pump
and I live in Central Florida............ At least we got Danelle Bregoli lol
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People say anything is the new punk now acting like punk doesn't still exist. I've never been to America so idk the context but punk is still super popular over in Canada underground
Punks liked punk rock because it was different and allowed artists the freedom to do whatever they wanted, trap rappers like trap because it's popular/easy money. They aren't the same
$UICIDENOY $ WERE DOIN IT A LOT LONGER THAN X AND SKI AND PUMP AND PURP
Does this man know how to use commas? 😂
How is Lil Pump punk rock
You just watched a fucking video explaining it
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How tf they saying $B and RONNY J came out of Pump and Purpp, they've been making the aggressive songs for years, when RonnyJ produced ULTIMATE for Curry Purpp and them probably hadn't even thought about rapping
It's called the underground scene. Punk rock was the same thing back in the 60's-80's. It doesn't mean that the South Florida Rap scene is "Punk". Punk's main parts were about society, politics, insecurity, and social alienation/anxiety. And although you can say that about XXXTentacion's music, it's definitely not the case with everyone else. The similarities are mainly in the live show. That's about it. The underground aesthetic.
Punk is at its core politically charged. If they arent speaking on political issues I wouldnt call them punk