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Discord approached Microsoft! ...and they’ve said that discord, like all of its new studios would continue to mostly govern its future management. Remember the Skype debacle was pre Satya Nadella and Phill Spencer! The last couple of years Microsoft has been making the right moves! “ The salt for Microsoft runs strong in this one”
Gamers want video cards at MSRP. Scalpers sell cards at 2 to 3 times the cost of MSRP. Miners buy the cards at those prices. So the MSRP is getting raised so they can make more money and the Gamers who are already fucked over by all of this just get shafted again. The only way to solve this entire problem is to hunt down and murder scalpers and miners. They are not providing anything that the world needs. They are just exacerbating the problem.
MSI was such a great company in the past, i still remember their Lightning GPU lines. In those days, they were ahead of everyone. But today, they are building the cheapest and weakest stuff with high failure rate, focusing on good look only and demanding premium prices for it.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq ehmm 20series and 10 series msi gpus where objectively one of the best partner cards... Pls stop talking Bs just for the sake of shitting on MSI, don't get me wrong they deserve to get shit on but pls no Bs talk
@@darkdraconis Their 900 and 1000 series gaming X cards were pretty much the best models. Nowadays their lineup consists of "budget" ventus/mech cards which sound like turbo jet engines and very overpriced high end cards bloated with rgb which perform worse than cheaper alternatives from evga/sapphire/xfx/powercolor or even asus
@@darkdraconis Their 3070 line uses a reference pcb design in some cases with lower spec components and also has a locked power limit less than the FE design yet they want you to pay well over msrp. That's tge definition of crap
@@belland_dog8235 Heh. It's not like they can cut them off more. And imagine the tech tuber and PR hell that would be unleashed of they tried a SLAPP suit.
At very least the current price hike by MSI is less abnormal considering that most of the well-known brand (EVGA, Zotac, ASUS, and many others) had raised their priced associated with the change of tariffs on USA. Things would get very spicy if another hardware distributor incident happens again though.
GameStop is like that character who received life threatening wounds, got shot 50 times with a shotgun in the stomach, is missing a leg and both arms, fell from a 200 story building and somehow recovered lmao
@@s13shaka I will not put money into a company that has 0 chances. Sure they try to sell hardware now but even that wont save them. A lot of retail chains are struggling and this wont save them.
@@nukularpictures for a company with zero chances, it keeps getting a lot of chances for some reason. It even outlive Mixer and other services and stores for the last 5 or 10 years lol
@Nick Diesal exactly. MSI might as well just call them bitches and demand them to pay them for nothing and they gladly will. Once this madness is over they just go back to the old ways of selling stuff like nothing ever happened. 😂😂😂
I had to purchase a steam card in a Gamestop about 5 years ago. It was depressing AF in there. The girl working behind the counter looked like she hated her life.
There a GameStop in my town 1 block away from bestbuy I hardly see any body go in there They survived longer than blockbuster I don’t know how they make money
@@rahmanlittle5490 history shall repeat itself... you clearly weren't around for 2003.. that was the last time AMD was on top then intel came back with a vengeance and amd became a fart in the wind until ryzen personally I hope they both give each other Competition as its better for us as consumers
@@rahmanlittle5490 bro, remember 2019 with r5 3550h and r7 3750h ? AMD hold on and released shitty on mobile ,no cpu on desktop to prepare for 5000 ? Yeah no one can tell the future
"tight supply"... yeah, when ur backdoor selling directly to miners for a premium, it's no wonder the average consumer cant get any gpus at normal pricing
The average consumer is a junky with no memory that will buy the moment you release regardless of price. No wonder companies don't give a shit. They are 105% insured on the gaming user base. Miners pay more so they dip into that. And when miner are gone? Back to those sleezy junkies :D they'll buy np, just slash 50 bucks of the scalped price.
@@minhluong4596 first do u know how profitable mining is? If ur a big mining corporation u will always want to keep expanding to keep up with the hash rate increase. Now, think of it from the manufacturer's standpoint, why would you allow the middleman to just sell to these mining corps when you can just reap all the profits to urself by just selling directly. Then, remember when Nvidia themselves have directly sold to miners... and they can report it as gamer sales (steam hardware survey lurking from the side) and no one would know, what makes you think they would miss such a profitable moment and can actually get away with it, if you actually think reasonably about it. Yet, they keep displaying figures that they have actually INCREAESED supply figure instead. The miners can just directly wait outside the factory and take those cards to the mining farm while the manufacturers just supply the bare minimum to other parts of the world.
@@francis771 of course I know how profitable mining is. I own a damn mining farm in Vietnam myself :D Tons of 8gb Polaris coming from 2017 itself :D still up and running. And another location with 30-series. That said, I don't think many of us do backdoor deals. If we did, we did it with distributors, not board partners. I don't even think board partners have the logistic to do so. Everyone knows cutting the middleman is good but tell that to the car industry lol, good luck with that. Besides, hashrate increase does not incentivice us to rush to purchase new GPUs, it actually the opposite. I don't get your logic of trying to "keep up" with the hashrate. We don't care about our total hashrate, we care about the ROI of every batch we bought, and the ROI right now is pretty shit, doing backdoor deals price is even worse. That's why many of us actually does not try to expand anymore and are staying put for new development concerning new ETH EIPs so there are ample supply of 30-series over here you can come check it out :D
Is Microsoft really as bad about killing things they buy though? GitHub and LinkedIn are still alive and well, MS has left them alone. Same with Minecraft as Steve said (including releasing it on every platform, crossplay etc) From what I've read Microsoft is pretty good about letting companies they buy continue to operate the way they are used to. Like game studios they buy, supposedly they are quite good at leaving them alone to do their own thing. As for Skype which Steve joked about, I don't use it, but Microsoft confirmed that Skype (at least Skype for Business) is getting replaced/folded into Microsoft Teams. I'm guessing Microsoft want's Discord to use as the replacement for Skype for consumers and will integrate it in some way with the Xbox ecosystem/service for gamers of course. Also $10 Billion is honestly nothing for them, heck they made $143 Billion in revenue in 2020. And they have said multiple times even after the Zenimax/Bethesda acquisition they are looking to buy more game studios. The Discord thing I def believe.
@@rand0mtv660 Only one I can remember off the top of my head is Mixer. They even paid people like Ninja multimillion dollar contracts to stream exclusively with them.
I worked in Silicon Valley for decades and over and over again I saw powerful leading companies taken down by bad management chasing bean counters and tech press fads.
The people don't just die though, they move on with their cash and ideas and do something else. It's about squashing competition and the big dogs do it very well. Occasionally a little guy survives to actually make it in the market but don't be surprised it's hard.
I worked there from 08-14 And nothing has changed it seems. Bad business decisions, bean counters, and bringing destructive politics into a engineering industry has done nothing but let US rivals out do our hard / soft industries. Left it in 2014 to get away from it all. The money became not worth it anymore.
Now even the bean counters are afraid of cancel culture destroying companies. But hey the, secret to big business is that there are six companies that own the vast majority of stock in an overwhelming majority of the companies so as long as a human can live inside cancel culture they can keep getting rich no matter who they work for, in fact it makes moving between companies easier.
As an employee at a certain funko pop retailer that also sells video games and video game accessories it's been pretty wild to see how much PC hardware has been coming in to our (fairly out of the way) location and even more interesting to watch it fly off the shelf. Really hope this keeps up.
1080TI here, and same. If it dies for some reason right now, I'll be really screwed though. I traded in my 970 to get a 1080, and traded in my 1080 to get the 1080TI, I think the best I have in the parts bin is a 770. I probably should have kept the 970, it was a workhorse, solid for 1080p gaming, and I didn't get a lot for it on trade in.
@@kathrynck I also had MSI 970 in the past. It was the only GPU i ever had to RMA, because it died within 2 weeks from purchase. Well known ELPIDA memory, but no coil whine. From RMA i got another, with micron VRAM chips, that was whining intensively. After a year i tried SLI, bought Gigabyte G1 GPU and after a week i decided to end SLI and sold the MSI GPU. Best decision in my life back then. Not because of some faulty GPU from MSI, but because that´s what got me into BIOS modding territory. I still remember the days i spent modding the BIOS of that Gigabyte GPU. I don´t think the 970 was the best. Entire 900 series had broken boost, which was boosting core freq. in low loads and dropping back to stock clocks in high loads. Easily fixable with BIOS modding - disabling the boost and setting boost clocks as stock caused the same behavior 1000 series has. A GPU with stock clock set via BIOS mod at 1329MHz was boosting up to 1489MHz all the time. Funny thing is, i started tampering with modding the BIOS just to change Gigabyte stock fan curve, as it had preset minimum at 50% of fan speed (noisy af). Also count in the VRAM issue, which crippled entire 970 line.
Same. I genuinely think that by the time this GPU situation is even somewhat normal Nvidia will be on the verge of announcing the 4000 series. Then I can have fun not being able to get one of those.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I had the gigabyte G1. I liked it. you could go pretty high with settings and still get great frames at 1080p. Honestly I never checked to see exactly what it's behavior boosting under load was. At low load though, it did correctly de-boost. I like my stryx OC 1080TI a hell of a lot more ;) especially since I have a 1440p/120hz monitor now. But it would be nice to have the 970 as a backup, considering how scarce GPU's have become.
What would you guys recommend in terms of Motherboard brand. My last two have been MSI so I haven't used another brands motherboard in quite a while. Current one I have is ok, my biggest dislike is the settings get wiped when you do a BIOS update even if you save the "profile to a USB drive", it will say you can't use profiles from older BIOS versions. That and every time I've updated the BIOS it screws up my RAID 0 array (2 3 TB HDD's I use for older games / games that just don't benefit much from SSD storage) and it removes one of the 2 drives from the RAID array. I have to follow these steps to fix it (no data loss occurs but it's quite annoying ( www.overclock.net/threads/howto-recover-intel-raid-non-member-disk-error.478557/page-15#post-28162010 ). From what I've looked at I like quite a few of the features Gigabyte offers, like Smart Fan 6 and its features (likes 7 plot points for creating fan curves, ability to have fans spin all the way down at a certain temp from a source you pick etc). And they specifically say you can keep all your BIOS settings after a BIOS update. Also just like the look of the BIOS in general. Simply curious what other opinions are.
Interesting story: A helicopter was ferrying a few business men to an airport in Seattle, when a thick fog rolled in, covering the city. The helicopter pilot couldn't see to get his bearings, and find the airport. So he cautiously approached a tall building rising out of the fog. He wrote in large letters with marker in a notebook "WHERE ARE WE?", and held it up to the window, hoping the office workers inside could help out. The office workers spent 20 minutes debating their answer, and then finally agreed on a reply, they wrote on a whiteboard and held it up to the window of the office building: "YOU'RE IN A HELICOPTER" The pilot, now low on fuel, make a quick turn and found his way quickly to the airport. One of the business men, puzzled, asked the pilot "How on earth did you find the airport based on that ridiculous answer they gave us?" The pilot replied "Well, their answer was technically correct, but utterly useless and unhelpful ...so that had to be the Microsoft building" $10billion is $40 per discord user (250m users)... ask yourself how MS plans to make a return on that. And then add a few metric tons of bad ideas and user-unfriendly tweaks to discord on top of that.
@@poppyrider5541 Are you afraid MS will abuse your personal data? If you're a Windows user you're not very bright. :P (I am guessing you run Linux or BSD though).
Intel pretty much had a monopoly for the last 15 years so it's too soon for talk about AMD needing competition. We all know what Intel will do if they catch up with AMD next year or the year after. AMD has less than half the market cap and less than half the EPS. Intel can afford to "be in the slump" for the next 10 years.
Amd was 21%... now they are back 20%, so yeah... what happens Wien Intel gets things working... amd will drop back to 10 or less... it can be a problem. Hopefukky amd has more than get years time to get ready for it.
@@reav3rtm AMD needs competition, otherwise they will quickly become intel themselves. Current pricing of CPUs and GPUs highly suggests this already. Everybody always needs competition, any sort of monopoly is bad. I mean, AMD isn´t your "friendly neighborhood Spiderman", it´s a corporation, that needs to make money for their owners. But their blind fanbase will never see that.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq AMD deserves some margins for being fucked by shady deals made by Intel and OEMs like Dell, HP for over a decade. Don't start cheering for Intel, it is stll monopoly in x86 market with approximately 80% market *share*. And AMD has not been nearly as stagnant technology wise as Intel. Prices are dictated by your/our favourite "free maaarkeeet". Blame capitalism.
It's not only MSI that is increasing prices, ASUS has already spoken about increasing their GPU prices a few days ago, in their own earnings talk, before MSI's CEO even said anything. Considering that ASUS additionally said that their card shipments fell by 5-10% compared to late last year, it would stand to reason the other AIBs are having supply woes and are contemplating an increase to the price of their products as well. Welcome to the new GPU Market, Steve.
Just wait to see next gen GPU prices... we have not seen the ”best” yet! $500 for low end? $1500 for middle range? Highend... of you need to ask... you can not afford...
I'm so over this whole shortage and eye gouging overpricing gaming now. It's outdoor activities for me. Im going to throw my frizbee and walk the dogs in the park.
Yup! The proper names for them are EURion Constellations or Omron Rings, and are a specific pattern. Most printers even have built-in hardware dedicated to trying to find them to prevent bills from being printed. Depending on the software, many recognize the specific patterns, allowing for additional symbols from the rings to be used, though the circles are almost exclusively used.
The Intel clip at 2:34 is a wafer being held on by an X-ray diffraction machine - I wrote much of the software for that tool. Our machine moved very slow compared to most other fab tools, so it made for great video clips. The machines were built in the early 2000s - brings back a lot of memories while working on that system....
Recently I began watching your videos & I truly appreciate the time stamps even though I enjoy your content, they make certain videos very straightforward
I love how the US thinks "big companies asking for money" isn't considered a handout, but when regular people hammered by a pandemic, the TV media says "it's a hand out." Intel has money, they can fund the next gen themselves or find investment from the "loan shark" hedge fund industry
Thats corporate owned media talking points. Of course they would demean giving the plebs any money, we are second class citizens next to the august corporate-person.
I find it so weird that the US has some of the most rich sport teams in the world and they never pay for their facilities. It's always the cities giving tax money to build stadiums lol.
Don't tell Linus, but I enjoy GN HW News more than the WAN show. Definitely my favorite tech news show and I always look forward to watching you guys every Sunday morning. Thanks for the hard work!
3:08 ah....jumpsuits, ESD booties & perforated floors... i missed working in a cleanroom. except the times where i dropped custom or imperial sized screws into them (we use metric here).
If it took 8 years to make Cyberpunk 2077 with all the bells and whistles which exist now, imagine how long it would have taken if the devs had to develop it for bare metal :)
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р DOS is not bare metal. DOS is about as close to bare metal as Windows. If you don’t understand why or what the difference is, then you should probably watch another channel that actually teaches the absolute basics about computers, rather than one that pretends to understand what they’re looking at when they’re staring at a PCB. Hyper-V or another hypervisor is a bit closer, but if you have an operating system between your software and the CPU, it’s not bare metal. The reason people don’t write software to run on bare metal is because they’d have to know the exact chip being used, because the machine code will differ between the processor revisions. If you want to be extremely pedantic, technically even the assembly code for a particular processor could be considered a step away from the bare metal machine code, because the assembler adds some human readable functions like add or subtract, rather than just the hex code that means the exact same thing. Programming in assembly is much closer to machine code than C, because it’s converted or read as raw hex, rather than being compiled into machine code like C. The only games that ever ran on bare metal were arcade games, and anything written for the 2600. Pretty much anything that ran off of a ROM chip soldered to a PCB or off of a cartridge was running on bare metal. Some of the programmers likely used C and a compiler to generate their code for whatever chip it was going to run on, but there was no operating system between their code and the hardware.
@@kernelpickle DOS is a basic "disc operating system" , it's graphics are calls to your system's "bios". A program would have to switch back to "DOS" at it's end or it would crash the system. (int 21h)
@@christeschke9844 yeah, you definitely don't know what you're talking about. DOS stood for "Disk Operating System" because Disc's (which specifically refers to media used optical drives) didn't exist in the 70's when it was written, and disks refers to hard disks or it can refer the floppier variety of magnetic "diskettes" that were more commonly used before CD-ROMs and HDDs took over as the best bang for your buck mass storage drives. Another point of confusion is that you seem to think that the OS is making calls to the BIOS, which isn't even close to how that works. The BIOS is simply the software layer that serves as the interfaces between the hardware installed in your system and the CPU and/or between the hardware and the drivers. it's the drivers that the OS is actually interfacing with in modern OSes, while in DOS the OS would interface with the CPU, which would interface with the drivers. So, when you run an application in an OS, it asks the OS for access to resources in a more generic way, than executing machine code that will perform some sort of function with the hardware, because the software developer couldn't possibly write code that is designed to work with every piece of hardware available, and that's the entire reason you have an OS. (Otherwise you'd have an embedded system that functions more like an older non-smart appliances or devices). The INT 21h that you think you're clever bringing up is a software interrupt that's invoked by the DOS API in order to access one of the numerous subfunctions available in the AH register of the CPU, so the OS can perform a function with the hardware in the system. Basically every bit of hardware (excluding graphics) that DOS could interface with was handled through that register, but if you wanted to access lower level hardware like a GPU--you need drivers that can be called upon by the OS, and since you want to be fancy and talk assembly (which is the human readable version of pure machine code, that's specific to the processor in your system) the interrupt used by most BIOSes was INT 10h (or int 0x10) for video services. Again, the sheer variety of hardware in existence makes it impossible for DOS or any OS to be designed in a way that will universally work with everything that's available, since they could potentially use different interrupts and have very different capabilities. So that's why the OS makes calls to the driver, and the driver is what sends the specific interrupts to the hardware, and on systems like DOS, DOS will send an interrupt to the CPU and it's the CPU that interfaces with the driver, and the driver is what sends the BIOS interrupts to perform a function with the attached hardware. The funny thing is that since we're being technical (because you wanted to sound like a smart guy and managed quite the opposite) what I can also tell you is that modern operating systems, like Linux and even Windows NT (notice the absence of DOS here) on startup, the system will actually bypass the BIOS interrupt calls, the OS Kernel flips the CPU into a different operating mode, and then they load kernel drivers (ring 0) which will allow the OS kernel to access the hardware directly, rather than sending interrupts to the CPU, which talks to the driver which translates what the CPU wants to the correct interrupts needed for the BIOS to make the hardware perform the function it's be called upon to do. That's why DOS was a slow piece of shit, and more often than not (especially with games) there would be a limited set of hardware it supported, because they would actually include assembly code that was developed specifically to work with that piece of hardware, so the actual game/software was basically designed to bypass the BIOS and interface with the hardware directly. The reason this doesn't happen anymore, is again because theres too much hardware now, and for MAJOR fucking security reasons. You don't want software that can bypass the CPU and the BIOS, and just start doing things because it fucking wants to. Unfortunately that's EXACTLY what the fuck those cancerous Anti-Cheat systems are doing with their ring 0 drivers that are as insidious as rootkits, because they exist at at the same level as the OS itself, and the OS can't really control what it's doing, because it loads before the OS does. Now, I can understand your uneducated confusion about the DOS era where the OS, the BIOS and CPU pretty much didn't have security mitigations in place to prevent malicious or poorly designed software to circumvent their authority over your system. However, you were incorrect as to the manner that was achieved--it wasn't because DOS allowed more direct control of the hardware, it's because it didn't know any better and wasn't able to stop developers from executing machine code for that specific hardware configuration. An analogy would be like comparing a modern operating system to the parents of a child that set up rules and restrictions to protect their child (in this case you, the user)--while DOS was like having Grandparents with dementia running the show, because despite the fact that they sure as shit weren't as fast or as capable as their children (the aforementioned parents), they just didn't understand how to set boundaries (or why they would ever want to) and subsequently the children they were babysitting got away with fucking murder under their watch. As we've become more advanced with our devices, malicious code has gotten more advanced, and made it far more important for security counter measures that prevent that malicious code from wreaking havoc on those devices. If you want to experience a more modern OS that has ring 0 access to your hardware, you can always try Temple OS--which is a schizophrenic fever dream, because only someone with severe mental health issues that happens to be off their meds would think that shit is a good idea in this day and age. Again, back to your original comment--I don't understand what you think DOS is going to achieve for you on the hardware that's currently available, because as I mentioned already, every modern OS has direct control over the kernel drivers that talk directly to your hardware--while DOS wouldn't even be able to do that. If you run software (or games) designed to run directly on the GPU via Nvidia's CUDA / GPU Direct you will have a very poor experience, because you're bypassing the CPU (which is faster at running complex instructions than a GPU, which can run a bunch of tiny instructions really fast, in parallel) and the system memory, which is bound to be more abundant than whatever older GPU that isn't good for mining (ie anything with less than 6GB of VRAM) and the primitive games you could run on 4GB of VRAM would be absolutely dogshit. A last gen console would do a far better job, and those actually use VRAM for the GPU and system memory, which is how they punch above their weight class. If you're that hard up to play games, buy an Xbox One, which has GamePass and will allow you to share a large number of games in your library with your PC whenever you can afford an upgrade, and there are plenty of newer games that support mouse and keyboard. The money you save on buying a GPU can be spent on taking online courses to learn about computers, because you seem interested, and clearly need more education on subject.
I think it's cool to see GameStop moving back into PC hardware. I remember buying my first graphics card at Electronics Boutique (Voodoo 3!). I miss being able to walk into a videogame store and see PC products.
If you’re gonna go to another platform, Matrix is a good choice. Decentralized, open source. No middling from a faceless Trust and Safety department :D
@5:00 why didn't you mention that intel killed their previous attempt to get in to foundry services back in just 2018? Their only 'success' with their foundry services was essentially due to their buying Altera, which in turn has caused some problems for Altera.
Not too worried about the discord acquisition by Microsoft. You have to understand that all of the acquisitions that were sent to the graveyard were approved by Ballmer. Nadella has yet to make a bad acquisition (that I can think off.) He has so far approved of Linkedin, Minecraft, GitHub, ZeniMax, all of which have done relatively well (too early to tell on ZeniMax.) Besides, it's either Microsoft or Tencent LOL.
I got my mom a Ms. Pac-Man one for Christmas last year, she loves that thing lol. Worries me sometimes.... Sitting here watching a Gamers Nexus video or playing a game and the next thing I hear is, "Fuck! They got me, screw you!" lol. Never gets old lol
Gamestop needs to drop all the miniatures and mugs. Would love to be able to order a ducky keyboard or a hydrogen palm atom through them. Some of us want to interact with a store rather than track and trace packages.
$3K for 210MH/s seems like a not great ROI, especially considering it has no other use, at least with GPUs theres resale value and/or personal use for entertainment
Have a pilot GameStop store near where half the building is setup for esports tournaments. Manager only told me they were a pilot and have no official date when events will commence. This was 2 years ago so it doesn’t surprise they’ve gotten into the gpu selling route too.
ya MS did buy minecraft and mojang, but it took a pewdiepie to sort of give it a second wind for folks other than children. discord will go the way of skype (forced to run secretly in the background of windows 10 on EVERY PC) if MS buys it.
They're buying it just to integrate it with Xbox. It trims down the legal and licencing stuff if you just buy the company. They have zero interest in changing discord to a Microsoft rebranded Skype 2.0
I've always loved in depth tech news and benchmarking... since I was a kid... I still can't afford the latest and greatest hardware... Might be able to get a 30 series graphics card in 2 years if the prices come down... My old i7 7700k is ageing but not totally obsolete yet. I upgraded from an rx 570 to a gtx 1660 super in December to tie me over... Was lucky to get in when I did because they're a couple of hundred bucks more now! I'm on disability so these things don't come easy.
I can imagine a ASMR video of Steve... *whispering on the left ear* I'm going to remove now this screw from the GPU heatsink... *whispering on the right ear* Oh, look how uneven the pressure of the heatsink is!... 😂
Intel is finally making changes, and it sounds like it's what we've all been asking for. Pat gets it! More fabs in more places making all kinds of chips rather than waiting forever for unicorn new process to finally work before we see something other than Skylake. This is Intel getting back to its roots as a fab company.
The MS purchase of Discord sounds like a Discord leak, trying to overstate their value, b/c there is NO WAY that Discord is worth more than the entirety of Zenimax/Bethesda (for $7.5B). I would seriously question the sanity of any company that would pay more than a billion for Discord. You'd never see your money back. Discord doesn't even have a real revenue making model.
Buying Discord isn't about Discord's revenue. It's about the treasure trove of data it has on its users, who are at the very minimum interested in the most profitable entertainment medium (gaming). $10b is nothing in exchange for control of the largest dataset out there that will end up feeding Microsoft's Xbox and PC gaming businesses. The only other dataset out there more valuable is probably Steam's, but Steam isn't for sale.
@@johnhoo6707 What data? You don't even have to give a real name on Discord. Whereas, MS already has tens of millions of Xbox gamers, and hundreds of millions of Windows users. And $10B is not "nothing" when you consider they paid far less for the entirety of Bethesda/Zenimax, which has far, far, more tangible assets: some of the most prohibitable video games ever made, top line studios, that include FPS, MMO, RPG, et al.; interesting IPs that are now being licensed for movies/TV, and everything from coffee mugs to cook books, and on and on. And what does Discord have? A bunch of fake users? Uh, no. Hard pass.
Intel 10nm should be on par with 7nm of TSMC (which was used for Rome Epyc CPUs), so it's interesting to see, how it will compare for instructions per clock performance and also - in configurations with the same amount of cores to AMD.
wtf. doesn't intel have a "comeback" every week, and it turns out to be yet another 14nm hot plate with an ever increasingly convoluted numbering scheme? Intel: "We're going to use TSMC!" Also Intel: "We're going to compete against TSMC!"
KuraMad2000 FACTS: Intel has already been using TSMC for at least a year. Intel wants to work with TSMC, not compete. Don't understand numbers go back to grade 3 until you learn! EVERY WEEK?? You're just an asswipe!
Thermal grizzly kryonaut is easily the best paste around when applied properly. My 10850k 5.1ghz all cores under light use at 11C~14C with an ambient temperature of 10C on a noctua NH-d15.
Microsoft has changed a lot since skype. They are doing lots of open source, they bought and improved Github. They are not the predator they once were.
Discord + MS... I'm not thrilled with the idea. Just like Skype. I can't imagine this working any better. And, really, how am I supposed to take Microsoft seriously when they keep either getting played by companies they buy and then can't control/manage, or get played by themselves any buy bad companies because they think they _might_ pose competition.
Discord should just stay private, be open about who it’s investors and employees are, and engage with the community. And pledge to open source everything in the unlikely event they go belly up.
@@soravulpis96 Very much so. I'd like to see them finance more like Telegram, though good luck with that. But still. Something that keeps them out of Big Tech™ hands.
Why do you associate it with Skype at all? Microsoft is buying it for Xbox integration. I'm pretty sure they have Microsoft Teams as their own flagship communication product. They're simply buying Discord to eliminate the dependency on third party. Look at GitHub. They wanted to integrate GitHub with docs.microsoft.com so they bought GitHub. All the other benefits were just added bonus for them. Given Microsoft's budget it's efficient for them to buy the company rather depending on it as a third party vendor.
@@abm_prottoy that's assuming M$ doesn't fk with it like they did with Skype and MC's account migration. If it gets added to their garbage store and you have to update via that junk, it's a rip
It's interesting about the GameStop thing, because here in Australia, we have EBGames, the parent company of EBGames is GameStop, and EBGames has been doing PC peripherals (keyboards, mice, headsets, etc...) for at least 10yrs now. Though quite why anybody would want to shop there is beyond me, their games are generally 20-30% more expensive than other places, I guess because they are a 'game' place, and the other places sell electronics, white good, etc... too.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind occasional pop up ads, as long as their were no audio with them, and server owners could manually disable or enable them, but if they were enabled the server would get a benefit like higher bitrats audio or video sharing for example
22:21 I don't see why they didn't do that sooner when scalpers started selling them at 3x msrp. Why not sell them yourselves after tripling the MSRP and kicking the middlemen scalpers to the curb?
Microsoft is simply buying it for integration with Xbox. It's efficient for them to just buy it rather than depending on it as a third party vendor. Imagine the flexibility it gives you. Microsoft probably has zero interest in making Discord as their flagship communication product. There's Teams there already. About privacy concerns, it's better off with Microsoft than ten cent.
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Thanks for the mod mat update 👍👍
Discord approached Microsoft! ...and they’ve said that discord, like all of its new studios would continue to mostly govern its future management. Remember the Skype debacle was pre Satya Nadella and Phill Spencer! The last couple of years Microsoft has been making the right moves!
“ The salt for Microsoft runs strong in this one”
Gamers want video cards at MSRP. Scalpers sell cards at 2 to 3 times the cost of MSRP. Miners buy the cards at those prices. So the MSRP is getting raised so they can make more money and the Gamers who are already fucked over by all of this just get shafted again. The only way to solve this entire problem is to hunt down and murder scalpers and miners. They are not providing anything that the world needs. They are just exacerbating the problem.
Are you required to keep adds on a webpage when showing it on youtube?
Gigabyte and PNY: We should lower the prices back to MSRP
MSI: 3 times MSRP is fair
MSI was such a great company in the past, i still remember their Lightning GPU lines. In those days, they were ahead of everyone. But today, they are building the cheapest and weakest stuff with high failure rate, focusing on good look only and demanding premium prices for it.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq ehmm 20series and 10 series msi gpus where objectively one of the best partner cards... Pls stop talking Bs just for the sake of shitting on MSI, don't get me wrong they deserve to get shit on but pls no Bs talk
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I have a msi 3060ti it is in no way a weak card even in comparison to other brands. It’s just stupid expensive
@@darkdraconis Their 900 and 1000 series gaming X cards were pretty much the best models. Nowadays their lineup consists of "budget" ventus/mech cards which sound like turbo jet engines and very overpriced high end cards bloated with rgb which perform worse than cheaper alternatives from evga/sapphire/xfx/powercolor or even asus
@@darkdraconis Their 3070 line uses a reference pcb design in some cases with lower spec components and also has a locked power limit less than the FE design yet they want you to pay well over msrp. That's tge definition of crap
I’m 100% ready for MSI to claim it is not them, but a distributor once again
I'm just waiting for that nasty email to GN, because Steve was mean to them.
@@artisan002 I wonder if they're gonna do an Nvidia. "We don't like your editorial style"
@@belland_dog8235 Heh. It's not like they can cut them off more. And imagine the tech tuber and PR hell that would be unleashed of they tried a SLAPP suit.
At very least the current price hike by MSI is less abnormal considering that most of the well-known brand (EVGA, Zotac, ASUS, and many others) had raised their priced associated with the change of tariffs on USA.
Things would get very spicy if another hardware distributor incident happens again though.
Yeah. Never buying anything MSI again unless something major changes with their management. Too much shady shit.
GameStop is like that character who received life threatening wounds, got shot 50 times with a shotgun in the stomach, is missing a leg and both arms, fell from a 200 story building and somehow recovered lmao
Dont worry. It is just the adrenaline. Will be dead soon enough.
@@s13shaka I will not put money into a company that has 0 chances. Sure they try to sell hardware now but even that wont save them.
A lot of retail chains are struggling and this wont save them.
@@nukularpictures for a company with zero chances, it keeps getting a lot of chances for some reason. It even outlive Mixer and other services and stores for the last 5 or 10 years lol
Rasputen ,eh ?
@@nukularpictures found a shorter lol
💎👐
Bold move of MSI telling their customers that they are stupid and being abused by MSI. 😂
Insert "MSI shoots MSI.
MSI:Gasp! How could MSI do that?"
@Nick Diesal which is exactly what they are implying. It's almost like they are making fun of gamers and miners.
@Nick Diesal exactly. MSI might as well just call them bitches and demand them to pay them for nothing and they gladly will. Once this madness is over they just go back to the old ways of selling stuff like nothing ever happened. 😂😂😂
And yet they sell everything. Gamers are children who can't comprehend supply and demand concepts.
@@dannyboy8474 people use the term supply and demand when they've only taken economics 101
I had to purchase a steam card in a Gamestop about 5 years ago. It was depressing AF in there. The girl working behind the counter looked like she hated her life.
There a GameStop in my town 1 block away from bestbuy
I hardly see any body go in there
They survived longer than blockbuster
I don’t know how they make money
@@00ii0i9 Money Laundering?
Because she did. Count on it.
@@ClonesDream I have no clue honestly
Maybe they have another store to support it in the next town maybe?
I worked at a GS for 1 month. Miserable. The best thing I got out of it was seeing ads for games that ended up being pretty neat.
Lol Gaming X Trio costs more than a Strix now
(M)ore price(S) (I)ncrease
@@mochi9411 lol
@@mochi9411 More Spending Increase*
@@sampreetkishan3170 nobody cares
Does it actually though? No
I hope intel can get their shit together.
They will not be able to beat amd
I hope intel can force the hand at the gpu level
@@rahmanlittle5490 history shall repeat itself... you clearly weren't around for 2003.. that was the last time AMD was on top then intel came back with a vengeance and amd became a fart in the wind until ryzen personally I hope they both give each other Competition as its better for us as consumers
@@rahmanlittle5490 bro, remember 2019 with r5 3550h and r7 3750h ? AMD hold on and released shitty on mobile ,no cpu on desktop to prepare for 5000 ? Yeah no one can tell the future
@@rahmanlittle5490 All the better for us
"tight supply"... yeah, when ur backdoor selling directly to miners for a premium, it's no wonder the average consumer cant get any gpus at normal pricing
Well it is right supply! It does not matter why the demand is high.
The average consumer is a junky with no memory that will buy the moment you release regardless of price.
No wonder companies don't give a shit. They are 105% insured on the gaming user base. Miners pay more so they dip into that. And when miner are gone? Back to those sleezy junkies :D they'll buy np, just slash 50 bucks of the scalped price.
Do you have proof that they are backdoor-ing or just say it because you are frustuated and trying to blame anyone you can?
@@minhluong4596 first do u know how profitable mining is? If ur a big mining corporation u will always want to keep expanding to keep up with the hash rate increase. Now, think of it from the manufacturer's standpoint, why would you allow the middleman to just sell to these mining corps when you can just reap all the profits to urself by just selling directly. Then, remember when Nvidia themselves have directly sold to miners... and they can report it as gamer sales (steam hardware survey lurking from the side) and no one would know, what makes you think they would miss such a profitable moment and can actually get away with it, if you actually think reasonably about it. Yet, they keep displaying figures that they have actually INCREAESED supply figure instead. The miners can just directly wait outside the factory and take those cards to the mining farm while the manufacturers just supply the bare minimum to other parts of the world.
@@francis771 of course I know how profitable mining is. I own a damn mining farm in Vietnam myself :D
Tons of 8gb Polaris coming from 2017 itself :D still up and running. And another location with 30-series. That said, I don't think many of us do backdoor deals. If we did, we did it with distributors, not board partners. I don't even think board partners have the logistic to do so. Everyone knows cutting the middleman is good but tell that to the car industry lol, good luck with that.
Besides, hashrate increase does not incentivice us to rush to purchase new GPUs, it actually the opposite. I don't get your logic of trying to "keep up" with the hashrate.
We don't care about our total hashrate, we care about the ROI of every batch we bought, and the ROI right now is pretty shit, doing backdoor deals price is even worse. That's why many of us actually does not try to expand anymore and are staying put for new development concerning new ETH EIPs so there are ample supply of 30-series over here you can come check it out :D
Its like Microsoft has challenged Google to a round of "how many services/projects can it kill"
The difference is Google made their own project (and killed them)
I am almost convinced they are doing it on purpose to launder money.
What notable projects/services did Microsoft kill lately? It seems to me they have been behaving pretty well these last years under Satya Nadella
Is Microsoft really as bad about killing things they buy though? GitHub and LinkedIn are still alive and well, MS has left them alone. Same with Minecraft as Steve said (including releasing it on every platform, crossplay etc) From what I've read Microsoft is pretty good about letting companies they buy continue to operate the way they are used to. Like game studios they buy, supposedly they are quite good at leaving them alone to do their own thing. As for Skype which Steve joked about, I don't use it, but Microsoft confirmed that Skype (at least Skype for Business) is getting replaced/folded into Microsoft Teams. I'm guessing Microsoft want's Discord to use as the replacement for Skype for consumers and will integrate it in some way with the Xbox ecosystem/service for gamers of course. Also $10 Billion is honestly nothing for them, heck they made $143 Billion in revenue in 2020. And they have said multiple times even after the Zenimax/Bethesda acquisition they are looking to buy more game studios. The Discord thing I def believe.
@@rand0mtv660 Only one I can remember off the top of my head is Mixer. They even paid people like Ninja multimillion dollar contracts to stream exclusively with them.
I worked in Silicon Valley for decades and over and over again I saw powerful leading companies taken down by bad management chasing bean counters and tech press fads.
I believe it´s called "Cycle of life" and it happens from the beginning of mankind.
The people don't just die though, they move on with their cash and ideas and do something else. It's about squashing competition and the big dogs do it very well. Occasionally a little guy survives to actually make it in the market but don't be surprised it's hard.
I worked there from 08-14 And nothing has changed it seems. Bad business decisions, bean counters, and bringing destructive politics into a engineering industry has done nothing but let US rivals out do our hard / soft industries. Left it in 2014 to get away from it all. The money became not worth it anymore.
Now even the bean counters are afraid of cancel culture destroying companies. But hey the, secret to big business is that there are six companies that own the vast majority of stock in an overwhelming majority of the companies so as long as a human can live inside cancel culture they can keep getting rich no matter who they work for, in fact it makes moving between companies easier.
Imagine typing "cancel culture" unironically and believing it's a payday lmao fucking RUclips comments are so dumb
i cant build a new computer because of the scalpers and damn price increases i'm truly frustrated man...
@Denis Bruh
@Denis nice? lol more like preying on a poor soul haha
@Denis Tried to help and being nice by being a price gouging parasite? 🤔
@Denis harrassing? 😂😂😂😂
Somebody, never got their ass kicked.
Go cry too your mom. Jesus... What a wussie
Never saw human so greedy and disgusting at the same time like this before, internet is a wonder world
As an employee at a certain funko pop retailer that also sells video games and video game accessories it's been pretty wild to see how much PC hardware has been coming in to our (fairly out of the way) location and even more interesting to watch it fly off the shelf. Really hope this keeps up.
I thank you for working to pump up the price of my gamestonx, even though I bought in about a year ago before it became the fad it is now.
Right on time, Tech Jesus
Praise him 🙏
ahahahhaha
Found some space next to Skype in its graveyard 😂
😂
I'll be looking for an alternative if MS buys
@@DB-mq4so teamspeak lol
Don't forget Micrsofts Lync (Before skype acquisition)
don't forget Mixer, that's in the grave on the other side of Skype in the Microsoft necropolis.
@André Ramon must have missed it.
@André Ramon Yes, doing just fine and not in the necropolis.
What's Mixer?
Ah yes...Micropolis. We dare not think on it too long.
@Tab MSN isn't dead. yet.
"Assuming we get the boat out of the canal" 😂😂.. Pivot, Pivot, Pivaat!!
Well said Ross 😂
"Shut up! SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!"
At this point they’re going to be making a canal through the ship
I'm still using an MSI GTX 1080, and I guess for various reasons I will still be using it for quite a while.
1080TI here, and same.
If it dies for some reason right now, I'll be really screwed though. I traded in my 970 to get a 1080, and traded in my 1080 to get the 1080TI, I think the best I have in the parts bin is a 770. I probably should have kept the 970, it was a workhorse, solid for 1080p gaming, and I didn't get a lot for it on trade in.
@@kathrynck I also had MSI 970 in the past. It was the only GPU i ever had to RMA, because it died within 2 weeks from purchase. Well known ELPIDA memory, but no coil whine. From RMA i got another, with micron VRAM chips, that was whining intensively. After a year i tried SLI, bought Gigabyte G1 GPU and after a week i decided to end SLI and sold the MSI GPU. Best decision in my life back then. Not because of some faulty GPU from MSI, but because that´s what got me into BIOS modding territory.
I still remember the days i spent modding the BIOS of that Gigabyte GPU.
I don´t think the 970 was the best. Entire 900 series had broken boost, which was boosting core freq. in low loads and dropping back to stock clocks in high loads. Easily fixable with BIOS modding - disabling the boost and setting boost clocks as stock caused the same behavior 1000 series has. A GPU with stock clock set via BIOS mod at 1329MHz was boosting up to 1489MHz all the time. Funny thing is, i started tampering with modding the BIOS just to change Gigabyte stock fan curve, as it had preset minimum at 50% of fan speed (noisy af).
Also count in the VRAM issue, which crippled entire 970 line.
Same. I genuinely think that by the time this GPU situation is even somewhat normal Nvidia will be on the verge of announcing the 4000 series. Then I can have fun not being able to get one of those.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I had the gigabyte G1. I liked it. you could go pretty high with settings and still get great frames at 1080p. Honestly I never checked to see exactly what it's behavior boosting under load was. At low load though, it did correctly de-boost. I like my stryx OC 1080TI a hell of a lot more ;) especially since I have a 1440p/120hz monitor now. But it would be nice to have the 970 as a backup, considering how scarce GPU's have become.
Gtx 980 here that crashes whenever it feels like it
2am, time for a new video
It's 7:30 am where I am
@@abdulazimpatel8467 you in the US?
These 2am drops are the only times I’m thankful for my covid sleep schedule
What even is sleep anymore?
Have you tried the 6 day week?
Huh?
Will never buy anything MSI again.
You are probably not in Europe because you would never be able to buy tech hardware again.
@@Superiorer 🤣
@@Superiorer I am in Europe and i will too avoid MSI. It´s not that hard, actually.
What would you guys recommend in terms of Motherboard brand. My last two have been MSI so I haven't used another brands motherboard in quite a while.
Current one I have is ok, my biggest dislike is the settings get wiped when you do a BIOS update even if you save the "profile to a USB drive", it will say you can't use profiles from older BIOS versions. That and every time I've updated the BIOS it screws up my RAID 0 array (2 3 TB HDD's I use for older games / games that just don't benefit much from SSD storage) and it removes one of the 2 drives from the RAID array. I have to follow these steps to fix it (no data loss occurs but it's quite annoying ( www.overclock.net/threads/howto-recover-intel-raid-non-member-disk-error.478557/page-15#post-28162010 ).
From what I've looked at I like quite a few of the features Gigabyte offers, like Smart Fan 6 and its features (likes 7 plot points for creating fan curves, ability to have fans spin all the way down at a certain temp from a source you pick etc). And they specifically say you can keep all your BIOS settings after a BIOS update. Also just like the look of the BIOS in general. Simply curious what other opinions are.
@@sean8102
Asus
Gigabyte
Are two pretty good options. Asus is a little pricey and also very very good for the high end.
Interesting story:
A helicopter was ferrying a few business men to an airport in Seattle, when a thick fog rolled in, covering the city.
The helicopter pilot couldn't see to get his bearings, and find the airport. So he cautiously approached a tall building rising out of the fog.
He wrote in large letters with marker in a notebook "WHERE ARE WE?", and held it up to the window, hoping the office workers inside could help out.
The office workers spent 20 minutes debating their answer, and then finally agreed on a reply, they wrote on a whiteboard and held it up to the window of the office building:
"YOU'RE IN A HELICOPTER"
The pilot, now low on fuel, make a quick turn and found his way quickly to the airport.
One of the business men, puzzled, asked the pilot "How on earth did you find the airport based on that ridiculous answer they gave us?"
The pilot replied "Well, their answer was technically correct, but utterly useless and unhelpful ...so that had to be the Microsoft building"
$10billion is $40 per discord user (250m users)... ask yourself how MS plans to make a return on that. And then add a few metric tons of bad ideas and user-unfriendly tweaks to discord on top of that.
Yep. I'll be deleting my account and asking for all my info to be deleted before this goes through. Off to figure out how Element works.
@@poppyrider5541 Are you afraid MS will abuse your personal data? If you're a Windows user you're not very bright. :P (I am guessing you run Linux or BSD though).
Nice in germany 8:33 a clock in the Morning nice coffe Little Bread and gamers Nexus best Start in the Day
*Goes into a Gamestop to sell a 2070 super* Gamestop: "Best we can offer you is $30
Lovin those Bloomberg website screenshots.
If Microsoft buys discord and leaves it mostly autonomous like they did with Mojang we would be mostly ok.
But Skype....
You are forced to connect ms account to Minecraft and other shit now
I wonder what is M$ trying to pull off
Even more sad than Microsoft acquiring Discord would be if Tencent did it.
I rather China buy it
Tencent would be a good choice as a buyer of Discord.
China doesn't like to work with US agencies
Your data is safer with them
@@leshiro5574 lmao no if tencent buys discord then it will get hated because china
Oh boy the future we have always wanted. An AMD Ryzen CPU featuring an Intel Management Engine.
24:33 we have had EBgames selling PC peripherals for years in Australia, kind of strange that the parent company hasn't been doing the same.
The GameStop probably used EBgames as a testing ground before expanding PC sales to the main stores.
Microsoft graveyard space for sale: 10 billion, we are paying.
Discord: I believe I have been in this world long enough.
And I was JUST getting used to it.
Sums it up pretty well.
I do hope there will be a discord alternate for GN Patreon members should that happen, I would miss the daily chats and bickering over computer stuff.
@@Zarcondeegrissom Rumor has it, that half life 3 and Teamspeak 4 will release together
@@darkdraconis they are actually currently working on Teamspeak 5 (no idea why they skip a number)
Intel pretty much had a monopoly for the last 15 years so it's too soon for talk about AMD needing competition. We all know what Intel will do if they catch up with AMD next year or the year after. AMD has less than half the market cap and less than half the EPS. Intel can afford to "be in the slump" for the next 10 years.
Amd was 21%... now they are back 20%, so yeah... what happens Wien Intel gets things working... amd will drop back to 10 or less... it can be a problem. Hopefukky amd has more than get years time to get ready for it.
Precisely. AMD doesn't need "competition" just yet.
@@reav3rtm AMD needs competition, otherwise they will quickly become intel themselves. Current pricing of CPUs and GPUs highly suggests this already. Everybody always needs competition, any sort of monopoly is bad.
I mean, AMD isn´t your "friendly neighborhood Spiderman", it´s a corporation, that needs to make money for their owners. But their blind fanbase will never see that.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq AMD deserves some margins for being fucked by shady deals made by Intel and OEMs like Dell, HP for over a decade. Don't start cheering for Intel, it is stll monopoly in x86 market with approximately 80% market *share*. And AMD has not been nearly as stagnant technology wise as Intel. Prices are dictated by your/our favourite "free maaarkeeet". Blame capitalism.
@@reav3rtm competition = lower prices that is just capitalism and free market capitalism doesn’t exist
looks like finally someone Slapped Intel to wake
You mean the costumers switching to amd?
Pretty sure it is the new CEO. Got rid of CEOs who just cared about money and instead put someone in who cares about technology advances.
It's not only MSI that is increasing prices, ASUS has already spoken about increasing their GPU prices a few days ago, in their own earnings talk, before MSI's CEO even said anything. Considering that ASUS additionally said that their card shipments fell by 5-10% compared to late last year, it would stand to reason the other AIBs are having supply woes and are contemplating an increase to the price of their products as well. Welcome to the new GPU Market, Steve.
Just wait to see next gen GPU prices... we have not seen the ”best” yet!
$500 for low end? $1500 for middle range? Highend... of you need to ask... you can not afford...
Calling Gamestop as Gamestonk naturally, deeply ingrained memes
20:14 Anyone able to tell which letter away are they? I can't figure it out 😅 ASMR maybe?
No clue but ASM is a Dutch company (As is ASML hehe) thats as far as i got /confused.
Yeah, that one went over my head
I'm so over this whole shortage and eye gouging overpricing gaming now. It's outdoor activities for me. Im going to throw my frizbee and walk the dogs in the park.
Fun fact; they couldn’t place a real $100 bill on thumbnail because of photoshop counterfeit software detection
GIMP won't kiss and tell ;))
if i am not mistaken you cant print Dollar bills either.
@@RobJorg pretty much all printers look for specific pattern shapes that appear on money and will not print anything with those patterns
The yellow donuts. They appear on shit like money and books to prevent scanning and printing. Honestly it's pretty retarded.
Yup! The proper names for them are EURion Constellations or Omron Rings, and are a specific pattern. Most printers even have built-in hardware dedicated to trying to find them to prevent bills from being printed.
Depending on the software, many recognize the specific patterns, allowing for additional symbols from the rings to be used, though the circles are almost exclusively used.
The Intel clip at 2:34 is a wafer being held on by an X-ray diffraction machine - I wrote much of the software for that tool. Our machine moved very slow compared to most other fab tools, so it made for great video clips. The machines were built in the early 2000s - brings back a lot of memories while working on that system....
"GameStonks Website"
He didn't even flinch with that one lol
Recently I began watching your videos & I truly appreciate the time stamps even though I enjoy your content, they make certain videos very straightforward
I love how the US thinks "big companies asking for money" isn't considered a handout, but when regular people hammered by a pandemic, the TV media says "it's a hand out." Intel has money, they can fund the next gen themselves or find investment from the "loan shark" hedge fund industry
Thats corporate owned media talking points. Of course they would demean giving the plebs any money, we are second class citizens next to the august corporate-person.
I find it so weird that the US has some of the most rich sport teams in the world and they never pay for their facilities. It's always the cities giving tax money to build stadiums lol.
Don't tell Linus, but I enjoy GN HW News more than the WAN show. Definitely my favorite tech news show and I always look forward to watching you guys every Sunday morning. Thanks for the hard work!
You used to buy Intel because it has better* performance... Now... You buy Intel because it's the only thing in stock...
Why put in effort and money to make a better product when you are the only option?
Intel employee's son asks for 5600x for birthday. Intel employee: Why are we still here... Just to suffer.
minecraft was a good, well-stablished product, discord is a well-established product
Minecradt is still good except bedrock
3:08 ah....jumpsuits, ESD booties & perforated floors... i missed working in a cleanroom. except the times where i dropped custom or imperial sized screws into them (we use metric here).
No one uses Imperial. SAE sizes perhaps, but not Imperial.
@@sammiller6631 yup, they are SAEs. i tend to say imperials/inches out of habit. Sorry about that.
@@mohdnorhalimzainudin7740 Wow. I'm surprised someone on the Internet admits their mistake over Imperial. I applaud your honesty and integrity.
MS also owns Github. They've done pretty well with that. This might be a good thing for Discord users.
Yes. They've done well with it because it's a website and not a program that they will ruin by turning it into a Windows 10 feature.
Love watching these every week. Good stuff.
Nvidia: "Please use our dedicated mining GPUs"
Miners: "No, I don't think I will"
Yeah doesn't make sense to me. They can't sell used mining GPU's to gamers at 3x the MSRP.
Thank you for the subtitles ❤
Im waiting for a DOS resurgance so we can get direct control of GPU and make great games for hardware we can still find :)
If it took 8 years to make Cyberpunk 2077 with all the bells and whistles which exist now, imagine how long it would have taken if the devs had to develop it for bare metal :)
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р DOS is not bare metal. DOS is about as close to bare metal as Windows. If you don’t understand why or what the difference is, then you should probably watch another channel that actually teaches the absolute basics about computers, rather than one that pretends to understand what they’re looking at when they’re staring at a PCB. Hyper-V or another hypervisor is a bit closer, but if you have an operating system between your software and the CPU, it’s not bare metal. The reason people don’t write software to run on bare metal is because they’d have to know the exact chip being used, because the machine code will differ between the processor revisions. If you want to be extremely pedantic, technically even the assembly code for a particular processor could be considered a step away from the bare metal machine code, because the assembler adds some human readable functions like add or subtract, rather than just the hex code that means the exact same thing.
Programming in assembly is much closer to machine code than C, because it’s converted or read as raw hex, rather than being compiled into machine code like C.
The only games that ever ran on bare metal were arcade games, and anything written for the 2600. Pretty much anything that ran off of a ROM chip soldered to a PCB or off of a cartridge was running on bare metal. Some of the programmers likely used C and a compiler to generate their code for whatever chip it was going to run on, but there was no operating system between their code and the hardware.
@@kernelpickle DOS is a basic "disc operating system" , it's graphics are calls to your system's "bios". A program would have to switch back to "DOS" at it's end or it would crash the system. (int 21h)
@@christeschke9844 yeah, you definitely don't know what you're talking about. DOS stood for "Disk Operating System" because Disc's (which specifically refers to media used optical drives) didn't exist in the 70's when it was written, and disks refers to hard disks or it can refer the floppier variety of magnetic "diskettes" that were more commonly used before CD-ROMs and HDDs took over as the best bang for your buck mass storage drives.
Another point of confusion is that you seem to think that the OS is making calls to the BIOS, which isn't even close to how that works. The BIOS is simply the software layer that serves as the interfaces between the hardware installed in your system and the CPU and/or between the hardware and the drivers. it's the drivers that the OS is actually interfacing with in modern OSes, while in DOS the OS would interface with the CPU, which would interface with the drivers. So, when you run an application in an OS, it asks the OS for access to resources in a more generic way, than executing machine code that will perform some sort of function with the hardware, because the software developer couldn't possibly write code that is designed to work with every piece of hardware available, and that's the entire reason you have an OS. (Otherwise you'd have an embedded system that functions more like an older non-smart appliances or devices).
The INT 21h that you think you're clever bringing up is a software interrupt that's invoked by the DOS API in order to access one of the numerous subfunctions available in the AH register of the CPU, so the OS can perform a function with the hardware in the system. Basically every bit of hardware (excluding graphics) that DOS could interface with was handled through that register, but if you wanted to access lower level hardware like a GPU--you need drivers that can be called upon by the OS, and since you want to be fancy and talk assembly (which is the human readable version of pure machine code, that's specific to the processor in your system) the interrupt used by most BIOSes was INT 10h (or int 0x10) for video services.
Again, the sheer variety of hardware in existence makes it impossible for DOS or any OS to be designed in a way that will universally work with everything that's available, since they could potentially use different interrupts and have very different capabilities. So that's why the OS makes calls to the driver, and the driver is what sends the specific interrupts to the hardware, and on systems like DOS, DOS will send an interrupt to the CPU and it's the CPU that interfaces with the driver, and the driver is what sends the BIOS interrupts to perform a function with the attached hardware.
The funny thing is that since we're being technical (because you wanted to sound like a smart guy and managed quite the opposite) what I can also tell you is that modern operating systems, like Linux and even Windows NT (notice the absence of DOS here) on startup, the system will actually bypass the BIOS interrupt calls, the OS Kernel flips the CPU into a different operating mode, and then they load kernel drivers (ring 0) which will allow the OS kernel to access the hardware directly, rather than sending interrupts to the CPU, which talks to the driver which translates what the CPU wants to the correct interrupts needed for the BIOS to make the hardware perform the function it's be called upon to do.
That's why DOS was a slow piece of shit, and more often than not (especially with games) there would be a limited set of hardware it supported, because they would actually include assembly code that was developed specifically to work with that piece of hardware, so the actual game/software was basically designed to bypass the BIOS and interface with the hardware directly.
The reason this doesn't happen anymore, is again because theres too much hardware now, and for MAJOR fucking security reasons. You don't want software that can bypass the CPU and the BIOS, and just start doing things because it fucking wants to. Unfortunately that's EXACTLY what the fuck those cancerous Anti-Cheat systems are doing with their ring 0 drivers that are as insidious as rootkits, because they exist at at the same level as the OS itself, and the OS can't really control what it's doing, because it loads before the OS does.
Now, I can understand your uneducated confusion about the DOS era where the OS, the BIOS and CPU pretty much didn't have security mitigations in place to prevent malicious or poorly designed software to circumvent their authority over your system. However, you were incorrect as to the manner that was achieved--it wasn't because DOS allowed more direct control of the hardware, it's because it didn't know any better and wasn't able to stop developers from executing machine code for that specific hardware configuration.
An analogy would be like comparing a modern operating system to the parents of a child that set up rules and restrictions to protect their child (in this case you, the user)--while DOS was like having Grandparents with dementia running the show, because despite the fact that they sure as shit weren't as fast or as capable as their children (the aforementioned parents), they just didn't understand how to set boundaries (or why they would ever want to) and subsequently the children they were babysitting got away with fucking murder under their watch.
As we've become more advanced with our devices, malicious code has gotten more advanced, and made it far more important for security counter measures that prevent that malicious code from wreaking havoc on those devices. If you want to experience a more modern OS that has ring 0 access to your hardware, you can always try Temple OS--which is a schizophrenic fever dream, because only someone with severe mental health issues that happens to be off their meds would think that shit is a good idea in this day and age.
Again, back to your original comment--I don't understand what you think DOS is going to achieve for you on the hardware that's currently available, because as I mentioned already, every modern OS has direct control over the kernel drivers that talk directly to your hardware--while DOS wouldn't even be able to do that. If you run software (or games) designed to run directly on the GPU via Nvidia's CUDA / GPU Direct you will have a very poor experience, because you're bypassing the CPU (which is faster at running complex instructions than a GPU, which can run a bunch of tiny instructions really fast, in parallel) and the system memory, which is bound to be more abundant than whatever older GPU that isn't good for mining (ie anything with less than 6GB of VRAM) and the primitive games you could run on 4GB of VRAM would be absolutely dogshit. A last gen console would do a far better job, and those actually use VRAM for the GPU and system memory, which is how they punch above their weight class.
If you're that hard up to play games, buy an Xbox One, which has GamePass and will allow you to share a large number of games in your library with your PC whenever you can afford an upgrade, and there are plenty of newer games that support mouse and keyboard. The money you save on buying a GPU can be spent on taking online courses to learn about computers, because you seem interested, and clearly need more education on subject.
@@kernelpickle good write up :)
I think it's cool to see GameStop moving back into PC hardware. I remember buying my first graphics card at Electronics Boutique (Voodoo 3!). I miss being able to walk into a videogame store and see PC products.
Hope Discord doesn't go the way of Skype.. Would hate having to find another chat platform
I like Discord too.
If you’re gonna go to another platform, Matrix is a good choice. Decentralized, open source. No middling from a faceless Trust and Safety department :D
Great videos as usual, very informative news and analysis :D thanks a lot for all the effort !!
Game Stop is Jon Snow: over rated, over beaten and when everyone believed it to be gone, it was brought back pretty much for its own surprise.
@5:00 why didn't you mention that intel killed their previous attempt to get in to foundry services back in just 2018? Their only 'success' with their foundry services was essentially due to their buying Altera, which in turn has caused some problems for Altera.
The last time they weren’t serious and were run by bean counters , under gelsinger and all the other hires this has a much better chance
Not too worried about the discord acquisition by Microsoft. You have to understand that all of the acquisitions that were sent to the graveyard were approved by Ballmer.
Nadella has yet to make a bad acquisition (that I can think off.) He has so far approved of Linkedin, Minecraft, GitHub, ZeniMax, all of which have done relatively well (too early to tell on ZeniMax.)
Besides, it's either Microsoft or Tencent LOL.
Steve: We're very curious about what you think would happen if Microsoft acquires Discord.
My first thought: Blue screens of death?
I have a question about your screw driver set are the Screwdrivers magnetic tipped.
Thanks Stevers Gamenus
Opening rip on MSoft was pure gold. Flawless execution.
Gamestop recently started selling a gaming table: Arcade1up Infinity Gaming Table
I got my mom a Ms. Pac-Man one for Christmas last year, she loves that thing lol. Worries me sometimes.... Sitting here watching a Gamers Nexus video or playing a game and the next thing I hear is, "Fuck! They got me, screw you!" lol. Never gets old lol
@@xB2KxRewindZ your mom's awesome, man.
Gamestop needs to drop all the miniatures and mugs. Would love to be able to order a ducky keyboard or a hydrogen palm atom through them. Some of us want to interact with a store rather than track and trace packages.
In December I built my new PC and I think by now it must have almost doubled in value. Should have bought a few more 30X0s back then.
People need to realize that we need intel to come back. Or else AMD will keep raising their prices.
$3K for 210MH/s seems like a not great ROI, especially considering it has no other use, at least with GPUs theres resale value and/or personal use for entertainment
I would be happy to have Microsoft run discord. Their TOS is much better than discords and doesn't punish you for speech
So I take it you weren't using Skype before Microsoft acquired it and ruined it...
Love the content, hate the ads(on the source websites) that make it harder to listen to your explanations. I don't like it but I understand.
Re: Discord, if MSFT acquire it, and start tinkering with it, I see it dying a slow death like MSs other acquisitions.
25:17 Aren't game tables those Arcade1up cocktail table machines? I have the Streetfighter one and it's awesome.
i am fully prepared for the revival of Razer Comms post Discord acquisition
Have a pilot GameStop store near where half the building is setup for esports tournaments. Manager only told me they were a pilot and have no official date when events will commence. This was 2 years ago so it doesn’t surprise they’ve gotten into the gpu selling route too.
ya MS did buy minecraft and mojang, but it took a pewdiepie to sort of give it a second wind for folks other than children. discord will go the way of skype (forced to run secretly in the background of windows 10 on EVERY PC) if MS buys it.
They're buying it just to integrate it with Xbox. It trims down the legal and licencing stuff if you just buy the company. They have zero interest in changing discord to a Microsoft rebranded Skype 2.0
I've always loved in depth tech news and benchmarking... since I was a kid... I still can't afford the latest and greatest hardware... Might be able to get a 30 series graphics card in 2 years if the prices come down... My old i7 7700k is ageing but not totally obsolete yet. I upgraded from an rx 570 to a gtx 1660 super in December to tie me over... Was lucky to get in when I did because they're a couple of hundred bucks more now! I'm on disability so these things don't come easy.
I can imagine a ASMR video of Steve... *whispering on the left ear* I'm going to remove now this screw from the GPU heatsink... *whispering on the right ear* Oh, look how uneven the pressure of the heatsink is!... 😂
More of this 👍
Yeah right up until the why, why, why, WHY? Idiots.
@@alreed2434 lol
GPU teardown ASMR would be a good April Fools video, I feel.
Intel is finally making changes, and it sounds like it's what we've all been asking for. Pat gets it! More fabs in more places making all kinds of chips rather than waiting forever for unicorn new process to finally work before we see something other than Skylake. This is Intel getting back to its roots as a fab company.
I'm suprised it took board partners this long to start jacking prices
Nobody wanted to be the first to do something that stupid, but now that MSI took the plunge, we're all fucked.
@@eternalreign2313 Asus did it first, watch the vid
I love how GN puts vids up past midnight, no one else does that, its awesome.
The MS purchase of Discord sounds like a Discord leak, trying to overstate their value, b/c there is NO WAY that Discord is worth more than the entirety of Zenimax/Bethesda (for $7.5B). I would seriously question the sanity of any company that would pay more than a billion for Discord. You'd never see your money back.
Discord doesn't even have a real revenue making model.
Buying Discord isn't about Discord's revenue. It's about the treasure trove of data it has on its users, who are at the very minimum interested in the most profitable entertainment medium (gaming). $10b is nothing in exchange for control of the largest dataset out there that will end up feeding Microsoft's Xbox and PC gaming businesses.
The only other dataset out there more valuable is probably Steam's, but Steam isn't for sale.
@@johnhoo6707 What data? You don't even have to give a real name on Discord. Whereas, MS already has tens of millions of Xbox gamers, and hundreds of millions of Windows users.
And $10B is not "nothing" when you consider they paid far less for the entirety of Bethesda/Zenimax, which has far, far, more tangible assets: some of the most prohibitable video games ever made, top line studios, that include FPS, MMO, RPG, et al.; interesting IPs that are now being licensed for movies/TV, and everything from coffee mugs to cook books, and on and on.
And what does Discord have? A bunch of fake users? Uh, no. Hard pass.
Intel 10nm should be on par with 7nm of TSMC (which was used for Rome Epyc CPUs), so it's interesting to see, how it will compare for instructions per clock performance and also - in configurations with the same amount of cores to AMD.
wtf. doesn't intel have a "comeback" every week, and it turns out to be yet another 14nm hot plate with an ever increasingly convoluted numbering scheme?
Intel: "We're going to use TSMC!"
Also Intel: "We're going to compete against TSMC!"
KuraMad2000 FACTS: Intel has already been using TSMC for at least a year. Intel wants to work with TSMC, not compete.
Don't understand numbers go back to grade 3 until you learn!
EVERY WEEK?? You're just an asswipe!
Thermal grizzly kryonaut is easily the best paste around when applied properly. My 10850k 5.1ghz all cores under light use at 11C~14C with an ambient temperature of 10C on a noctua NH-d15.
Microsoft has changed a lot since skype. They are doing lots of open source, they bought and improved Github. They are not the predator they once were.
theyre still a billion dollar corporation and ought to be treated with hesitation.
How wonderful gets done? I don't know either Steve, but I do recall that Subaru means love
(Just a note, Uri is pronounced with a hard U, like ooh-ree)
Ohhh, that new logo at the beginning, so smooth
Discord + MS... I'm not thrilled with the idea. Just like Skype. I can't imagine this working any better. And, really, how am I supposed to take Microsoft seriously when they keep either getting played by companies they buy and then can't control/manage, or get played by themselves any buy bad companies because they think they _might_ pose competition.
Discord should just stay private, be open about who it’s investors and employees are, and engage with the community. And pledge to open source everything in the unlikely event they go belly up.
@@soravulpis96 Very much so. I'd like to see them finance more like Telegram, though good luck with that. But still. Something that keeps them out of Big Tech™ hands.
Why do you associate it with Skype at all? Microsoft is buying it for Xbox integration. I'm pretty sure they have Microsoft Teams as their own flagship communication product. They're simply buying Discord to eliminate the dependency on third party. Look at GitHub. They wanted to integrate GitHub with docs.microsoft.com so they bought GitHub. All the other benefits were just added bonus for them. Given Microsoft's budget it's efficient for them to buy the company rather depending on it as a third party vendor.
@@abm_prottoy that's assuming M$ doesn't fk with it like they did with Skype and MC's account migration. If it gets added to their garbage store and you have to update via that junk, it's a rip
Showing off that EVGA backplate at the start with thermalpads, cheeky :P
discord + ms just makes me excited for the new teamspeak client
It's interesting about the GameStop thing, because here in Australia, we have EBGames, the parent company of EBGames is GameStop, and EBGames has been doing PC peripherals (keyboards, mice, headsets, etc...) for at least 10yrs now.
Though quite why anybody would want to shop there is beyond me, their games are generally 20-30% more expensive than other places, I guess because they are a 'game' place, and the other places sell electronics, white good, etc... too.
Bye Bye Discord. It was nice to know you.
Can't wait for intel to come back and increase the competition specially in the budget market.
"I guess granite can flow" - Stephan Burkeley from Nexus of Gamers, 2021
Had me in stitches for a moment! Lol!
Granite flow... Lava?
I'm a little worried about the thermals now! 😆
Honestly I wouldn’t mind occasional pop up ads, as long as their were no audio with them, and server owners could manually disable or enable them, but if they were enabled the server would get a benefit like higher bitrats audio or video sharing for example
Ah yes MSI : *Mining Star Internasional*
lol msi is founder of Bitcoin
Intel IFS is actually amazing :O If the foundry customers can use their IP, they could make custom x86 CPUs etc. :O That might be a game changer
I know which NVIDIA card I'll be getting after these price hikes...
None of them. They don't exist
I'm kind of hoping for an Intel DG2 "in a box" that just plugs in via thunderbolt 4/USB C and an external power brick. That would be pretty sweet.
22:21 I don't see why they didn't do that sooner when scalpers started selling them at 3x msrp. Why not sell them yourselves after tripling the MSRP and kicking the middlemen scalpers to the curb?
MS buying discord, there goes my chat client.
time to switch to some other chat client.
It's more likely that they'll go public from what I've read
Yes, but I'm paranoid about my privacy, RUclips is enough tracking for me. I don't need to add in Microsoft to my worries.
Edit: Grammar fix.
Microsoft is simply buying it for integration with Xbox. It's efficient for them to just buy it rather than depending on it as a third party vendor. Imagine the flexibility it gives you. Microsoft probably has zero interest in making Discord as their flagship communication product. There's Teams there already. About privacy concerns, it's better off with Microsoft than ten cent.
You maybe right. But you can't really say that for sure as the code isn't open for anyone to audit it.
What is the modmat hash rate? And will it be better stocked than rtx 3070 :)
"how wonderful gets done"? that sounds very much like a chinese person wrote it.
many claps. big applause.