Andy Farrell blasts the 'disgusting' treatment of his son Owen Farrell
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- Ireland head coach Andy Farrell has branded the “circus” around son Owen Farrell’s disciplinary process “absolutely disgusting”.
The England captain’s participation in the World Cup is in fresh doubt after World Rugby appealed against the decision to overturn his red card from Saturday’s clash with Wales.
An independent disciplinary panel caused an outcry on Tuesday when it cleared 31-year-old Farrell to play following his shoulder-led tackle to the head of Taine Basham, which was expected to result in a significant ban.
England head coach Steve Borthwick has subsequently opted to leave the Saracens fly-half out of his squad for Saturday’s World Cup warm-up clash against Ireland in Dublin.
Farrell senior, who concedes his view on the situation is not impartial, expressed anger at some of the intense criticism his son has faced. #RWC2023
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It's his son. He didn't want to answer. What do you expect him to say. Can't knock him. Owen on the other hand, he should get the ban. Fair is fair
Well he doesn't have to say "disgusting' treatment" then. Its extremely simple
@@dimetilldeath I'm sure in his eyes it is even if not mine or yours
@@dimetilldeath totally agree - we expect people in authority to be truthful + fare - rugby as well
He could of course resort to HONESTY, and admit that his son is a filthy player. Or is honesty not an option?
Well said
The "disgusting" thing is that if he were from a smaller union say the Pacific Islands he would have received a ban. End of.
Maybe both things are disgusting? Or is the world that simplistic in your eyes?
Let's talk about 'somebodies son' who has been subjected to completely avoidable head trauma, shall we?
No one gets the reaction apart from Farrell, let's not pretend your concerned about head trauma, otherwise rugby needs to be banned outright, because you may be surprised, but head contact is still prevalent in the game.
This is about anti Farrell and anti England, the usual suspects using this opportunity to have a pop.
andy your son committed a "no arms" tackle with direct contact by his shoulder to the players head,NOT for the 1st time! it is a red card all day long ,have some credibility please.
With mitigation
@@benrawson007come on mate, there was zero mitigation, it’s what he does.
@@jamesm9995 That's not was judges saw or said. That's how they downgraded it to a yellow.
@@benrawson007 and that’s why World Rugby are appealing the decision, see how that works, ffs.
@@jamesm9995 Yes, not exactly black and white, is it?
Does Andy think it's disgusting Owen didn't get 10 week suspension - cos I do :)
I think Bakkies should be part of the next panel. At least he prayed for his opponents before the game 😂😂
His son is a dirty player end of story
And your a keyboard warrior
You should have played in the amateur era. Proper dirty players who bit, gouged, stamped and there was no citing process either. The modern game is super clean and foul play often errors of timing & technique not intention.
The only thing disgusting is the way Owen was NOT banned, but many other players have received very bad news who won't be able to go play in the RWC for being banned for a few weeks, even with LESS dangerous play. And yet, this guy gets a free out of jail card. So no, the world is not creating a damn circus because of Farrell as a person, but because of the absolute crap and corruption of these officials and the way they ban other players, and Farrell just free to play. Rules are f-king rules!!!! Even if it's not great rules, still keep to it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Players being hit by his son may also feel it's Disgusting how he chooses to attempt something resembling a tackle and keeps getting away with it.
well as a rugby coach he should have showed his son how to tackle right as a kid.
He was the best rugby League player of all time which is harder than union
@@deancawley806 you clearly haven't played the game🤣🤣
I think everyone is disgusted the way you son treats his opponents its time he was dealt with bid time
Father like son no difference he was also a thug!
Clown he was England's greatest league player
Treatment of his son? How about addressing his actions 😂
Which shows the complete lack of depth of thought of people who have never played the game at this level
It was no Botha head butt on the floor or a Tuilangi on Devilliers was it
You non England fans are so blinkered
Sexton abusing officials, now that’s abhorrent
But he did address his actions. Farrell pleaded guilty, admitted his error.
@@maverick4177 most of the red cards I see they have almost no reaction time to deviate their actions. Iv seen it multiple times, non malice head shots, or head clashes resulting in red cards through dips, and split second change in direction, these are unfortunate events. Usually cards are given on outcome not intent. Mr Farrel on the other hand had ample time to adjust, he basically lined him up from a distance and lay on a shot.
@@D_Handlermost red cards you’ve seen are difficult how?and name them🤷♂️
@@maverick4177 Are you an idiot? Just because it is not something else, does not excuse the action itself. Noone has said the circus is about Owen Farrell himself, it is about that this is a fucking joke that the card was pulled. We like to believe that our sport has integrity. If you believe him getting off has integrity, I really hope you are not a member of our sport. Farrell is a great player and it would honestly be a shame for him not to play the World Cup. But to believe dismissal of his card is fair, that is a joke.
Also, sexton abusing the officials should have been more publicly shamed. I love this sport, and I want the values to be upheld.
goodness when will RugbyPass get someone to check the microphone volume on the mic the press/journalists use!?!
It is more than disgusting. It’s nepotism at it’s finest.
Owen has been a lazy and dangerous player on defence.
He should have been banned for 6 games, not 3.
It’s a joke.
England are going to get thumped.
Hardly surprising after the hate I've read online not least from the headline seeking “reporter” for the BBC Matt Dawson. Anyone reading his garbage would believe that Dawson's love child is George Ford and now Marcus Smith.
It is a pity he did not teach his son how to tackle properly. As an England fan he has become a liability as every tackle he makes you wonder if he will get a yellow card. It also has to said that George Ford improved the attacking ability of the team when he came on.
He did... for league, that's exactly why we have this problem.
@@mvubu6823then he should have stayed with league, unless he wanted to learn how to tackle within the rules of rugby
The rules have changed.
Just my opinion but watching Tuilaga get away with it for years may have influenced him ?
What have you taught your son 😂
A father is always going to back his son! If he put his professional head on he knows Owen can’t tackle for shit and should be banned end of!
A stupid question that should never have been asked. The Owen Farrell incident has little impact on Ireland coaching and even less on Irelands prep for the world cup. Ask this question of the IRFU or WR but to ask a father about his sons likley ban from the world cup is ridiculous. I cant remember any journalist asking Sextons dad if he should mouth off at referees. OK as Ireland coach Andy is in the public eye but only for Ireland coaching decisions. I have yet to see Borthwick asked a similar question and he is Owens coach. Andy is between a rock and a hard place as Ireland coach, he has kept this position honorable but this was a dishonorable question from journalists.
That tackle needs to be banned. Hes out of control dirty player shouldn't be allowed to play
There shouldn’t be any personal attacks! Stick to the rule of law when giving your opinion about Own Farrell.
It is there for everyone to see. It isn't a matter of perspective or opinion, It isn't a matter of public shaming, hounding or media circus, it is factual, clear and obvious, and it has shocked the rugby community worldwide.
Rugby fans are not keyboard warriors, we do not behave like soccer fans and we do not like being lied to.
Is he interrupting genuine shock and outrage at the decision as a circus? He needs to check himself.
@@garethpearce5255 Absolutely. The last refuge of a scoundrel used to be nationalism, these days it is portraying yourself as a victim and wanting sympathy for poor behaviour.
R u actually being serious, this whole superior than soccer thing has to stop, because the abuse owen farrel got isn't warranted, he made an in game mistake and was penalised, not a big deal at all
@@valdischofor1618 Its not his mistake it is how it was handled afterwards. He deserves a ban like any player if they did the same thing.
@rynoduvenage8905 I agree, a good is fine, but in my opinion the way rugby union administrates bans is way too harsh, what owen farrel did wasn't egregious or massive dangerous, it was a slip of a few inches, high yes, and should be reprimanded, but not one of the worst things in the world
I would love to see Owen Ferritts Karma when he tries his technique on a few Argentines and Samoans……..
Try that on a coconut anytime. Get ready for the reprisals.
He didn't do or say much about Owens 15 previous years of Shithousery..... did he?
Its not disgusting. Should it have been any other player making the same tackle you would most likely agreed with the red card decision. Then been highly upset if it was withdrawn..
Some of you make me ashamed to be a rugby fan. Please learn to separate the player from the officiating. He made a mistake yes but he’s not responsible for the idiotic decision of world rugby. This witch hunt against someone who is a great servant of the game when he ultimately did not make this decision makes me lose all faith in this community. Yes there is a World Cup and tensions are high but the way “fans” can so easily dehumanise and turn on these players who put everything on the line for their sport is as Andy says “disgusting”.
Have you heard of a gentleman called Mr RASSIE Erasmus?………that was a witch hunt……………this is merely about a rugby thug avoiding punishment
He is responsible. If he didn't cause it, it would never have happened. He's a halfwit.
Except it wasn’t a world rugby decision. Also, if he didn’t want any of this drama, why did he contest the red card decision in the first place? For any other player it was a red card all day long. That is why people are up in arms. Going forward to the World Cup as the actor he is, break a leg Owen.
Do you need a box of hankies?
@@taniac1860 where did you hear he contested it?
great game
If only he was a coach of the game that could teach his own son the rules of the game.
Owen Farrell should be suspended and sent for the compulsory tackle adjustment course.
Mate, admit that Owens's tackle technique is not up to standard. If it was anyone else from a different team you would be saying the complete opposite. Poor judgment Andy
Cant wait for the Boos
Owen deserves it. One of the dirtiest players in the game for a long time now and gets away with it most of the time. I'm sure he is a great guy off the field but on the field not so much.
+kinda like the alcoholic that turns into an idiot when drinkin', but otherwise, is a nice guy.
As a coach maybe he should teach his son how to tackle properly and then 'junior' may not get such a hard time. I like Owen Farrell, he's a good leader and extremely committed but he lets himself down badly on occasions
Agree. Farrell has been surrounded by a circus, not of his making though. World Rugby and the Aussie independent panel are entirely to blame. It was simply a red card that should have stood. A good player, who simply cannot tackle. More clear guidance and direction needed from the toothless authorities
A good player CAN tackle Farrell and stop defending a continual offender in our super sport
The tackle was bad, defonate Ted and worthy of a ban. Should rest there.
The panel making the decision were weak and have created a massive mess of the game by failing to act, because of this there is deflection on Farrell that is not fair. He should have have his suspension and everyone would have accepted it. There were NO mitigating circumstances to reduce beyond an apology, this is not good enough for a repeat offender. By the nature of how many times this has happened there is an argument for adding weeks. The decision not to is not Farrels, and its easy to be angered, but we should be smart and mature enough to recognise where the failings really are, and that is the bias or corruption within the systems of the game.
A sad start to a world cup that does not set a good example or encourage any new players to the sport.
It's 100% his own making.
a) He made ANOTHER dangerous tackle
b) He could easily have opted to put his hand up and admit that.
c) He opted to defend it at the hearing, which led to subsequent events .
Of course Mr. Farrell is totally unbiased. Sad to see how much he cares about Player welfare. Would be interesting to see bis reaction when his son is tackling one of his players..
Silly comment, considering Mr Farren is a fine individual..
His said the circus around it is disgusting...not the treatment of his son. He prefixed by commenting that asking his about his son was obvious a crap question as its his son and he prefers NOT to comment.
He didn’t comment on the incident just the witch hunt which any father would stand next to his son
Here is my prediction of the outcome of the Owen Farrell saga (18 August 2023) :
"It would not be in the best interest of rugby to overturn the yellow card decision and ban Owen Farrell, as he has already gone through a lot of turmoil during the last few days ... from yellow card to red card, back to yellow card, World Rugby finds that because of all the suffering he has endured (World Rugby will present some smoke & mirror tactical approach) blah blah blah, we have decided to leave the status quo of the outcome unchanged."
He is right. It’s disgusting.. his son should have been banned for a whole year!!!. Nothing against owen, but just watch again the all blacks-england WC semi final in 2019… owen’s arrogant and cynical smile during the haka.. no explanation needed, you will understand by yourself what this man is made of.. He can be the greatest rugby player (he is not)he will never have the aura and the people’s respect of, say, Jonny Wilkinson, who was and still is a great gentleman..
Oh come on mate he’s allowed to smile, even nz pundits have said it’s fine he was enjoying the challenge, facing nz on a WC semi-final who wouldn’t enjoy that!
@Leprechaunmonkey101 I'm a new zealander and I don't care about an arrogant smile at the haka. Go for it. I do however care about the arrogance to want to put cheap shots in when his team is under pressure-knowing he can get away with it
@@timgregory82 1. You’re talking about a number of dirty tackles you can count on one hand in the past 5+ years, pretty sure shark attacks are more common
2. You don’t know what’s he thinks, everyone who’s coached/played with him says he’s a top bloke and does a lot for charity, don’t fall into this trap of comments with loads of likes being factual
Like father like son
Both don’t give a monkeys for the safety or wellbeing of opposition players pretending to tackle someone while trying to physically hurt them is the act of a thug
Owen is not certainly a model of sportsmanship, but he is not the problem. The only disgusting thing here is the Rugby World kybala/ Kabala , the one who allowed him to do that for years without supporting any consequences... exactly AS IT HAPPENED DURING THE LATE RICHIE McCAW ERA when New Zealand HAD TO BE THE BEST TM IN THE WORLD and when Craig Joubert , the RW's hit man, assassinated France in the 2011 final or Scotland in the 2015 quarter final. We also had some debatable events in 2019 RWC... For years now, all the energies are directed against teams like Springboks or France (maybe Scotland too). Now when NZ and England are not really the safest horses on the race, the flags are up for Ireland. Great team, but we saw the way the games against the two "public enemies" have been refereed . What's going on today is the consequence of this silent warfare. Just watch the poois and it's enough to understand that they were designed and scheduled to bring down Springboks - the number one menace - and France somewhere in the process and give a chance to England and to the loyal Australians fellows... It was no drawing lots, just engineered drawing lots. Boers will never be forgiven for their resiliency... Don't worry Zulu and Xhosa learned their lesson and will never betray their history again. This is the part where unexpectedly the rugby get linked to the geopolitics, gold, diamonds, etc. Every WC won by the Springboks will keep this fascinating country not falling apart and the greedy bastards away from its wealth... But now there is hope; if rugby can't do it, the Russians, the Chinese & Co. will help them to face the forces of the darkness. So RWC WINNERS OR NOT hopefully they will survive as the RAINBOW NATION! Hopefully! Alleluia
Farrell should have been rubbed out eight years ago and banned from all rugby. He is not to blame. It is his facilitators who have questions to ask. How much money has been paid to allow him to continue playing.
How about teaching him to tackle
It looks offensive stratigically applying more use of his legs be less effective probably gurly possibly save teams campaign
Well I thought Farrel the dirty Ferret's stupidity was because of his constant shoulder and head charging however listening to his dad I now realise it's genetic and the apple did not fall far from the tree.
and yet the team that Farrell coaches have a miniscule number of cards of any colour
@@michaelburke5910 thats because Simon Easterby is the defence coach not Farrell Easterby coachs the Ire. squad on clean disciplined legal tackles. That detail makes a difference.
Owen Farrell is just a dirty player and that is a fact! He should have been banned for life long ago.........................
He is a thug on the field
I totally disagree with your opinion of your so. When he rejected his runner up medal at the World Cup, he and the entire English side should have been banned for life The English side should have been banned from the next World Cup. A most disgusting display of bad sportsmanship.
Please remember to hate the system, not the man.
Owen Farrell may be unpopular, but his disciplinary stats at 10 and 12 are comparable with everybody elses and better than an awful lot.
His technique in split second decisions can be poor, but that doesn't make him a monster.
Frankly, I'm 56 and remember these sort of tackles happening 10 times a game when I was playing. Worried that the game is imploding under all of these rules and online witch hunts.
Hope I'm wrong.
Tell me another international 10 or 12 that consistently goes high. Stop the cap. Farrell is a captain and supposedly went to tackle school after his last hit. The system isn't perfect but why did a Japanese player miss time when it was pretty much the same hit Farrell does.
Finally somebody who is actually talking sense and not hysterics!
I’m an England fan and like Farrell and my own thoughts is the tackle he made was a red HOWEVER I’m not a rugby law expert, and if the panel said it was a yellow then I accept that as they are the experts not me.
Owen is the most universally hated international rugby player and there’s telegraph articles from years ago which clearly state that. So now that the masses have smelt blood this whole thing has become trial by social media. It is a circus.
We can hate both thanks
Well list down the names of players that are comparable to Farrell....
Don't worry we all can wait
He should be banned
@@Rayzajw
Quade Cooper has 6 yellows and a red,
Bundi Aki has 2 reds and 4 yellows
Sexton 4 yellows
Finn Russell 1 red and 2 yellows
Take Lavanini 3 reds and 7 yellows
To be fair most fly halves are coached to go high, at 1s receiver they are supposed to bump the ball carrier amd gain a second and rely on a back row player to make the tackle . The doctrine is that
you want your play maker in position and not stuck in a maul.
Personally I think Farrell deserves a ban however I do agree people are going a bit overboard on this .
Ban is ban …RFU … stop putting English rugby like something great … it’s not
Wow reading comments Andy Farrell is spot on.
Irrespective of if you like Owen Farrell or not, when did rugby fans become so hysterical and emotional that vilifying a player like this has become acceptable by posters who like to proclaim that rugby is unique and superior in its values over other sports like football.
I dont see any difference between rugby or football fans comments, both attack players for reasons real or imaginary.
I dont know Farrell nor do i have a strong opinion on him either way, but comments on here are embarrassing
He deserves all the shit he gets but maybe the cause is his father😊
😂 all the team supporters are scared of Farrell talent
Your forgetting, a high tackle has ALWAYS been illegal in Rugby, just because the emphasis and focus on them has changed, players make errors, i could reel off 30 players that have made terrible tackles in the last 2 seasons, mostly SA ones!
Johnny Sexton abusing officials in a game he didn’t even play in is far more abhorrent
Hhahaha farrells talent. The only talent he has is being a half wit.
BS
Off you go, start reeling...name just 2 from the SA please?
😂ja...farrells a scary prick..even at 32- 12 we were quivering..clown
> players make errors
That was no error, it was 100% deliberate.
He is known to shoulder people. So no need to blast "disgusting" treatment. When you keep doping this, you will eventually get the world to comment. If it were your son that was shouldered to the head, would you still say this? Disgusting attitude. Think of the welfare of players on the field and not just your son!
He brought this circus on himself with his repetitive poor tackles. He knows exactly what he’s doing and he must be punished
Explains why his son can't play the game like a gentleman, within rules when he has a father like this. Bullies aren't born! They are raised....
Farrell' s MO is to put in the high shot then stay down as if he's hurt. He's done it throughout his career and got away with it. Despite daddy's protests he needs to be properly sanctioned otherwise World Rugby will be seen for it's colonial bias and corruption. If this was a Pacific Islander he'd be out of most of the cup.
Should of taught him better technique daddyo coach,
Appalling treatment. One player being victimised by the owners of a twisted system. Bunker bo***cks of the highest order
Could you enlighten us as to which player is being victimized?
@@Marius_vanderLubbesurly he means a player having to face the consequences of his actions... 😂😂 and his dad predictably sticking up for him.
Victimised? Rugby fans are angry because he is always getting away with illegal tackles. One day he could easily ruins a players career by injury.
@@decland6017 that is an issue with the adjudicators isn’t it ?
Yes victimised. I am well aware of his history but even in law, it is deemed wrong to toy with the accused. This whole shit show is the fault of world rugby. Without the "bunker" the ref would have simply red carded him, job done. There's also the rest of the England squad and their prep to consider. We're 3 weeks out and world rugby just can't help themselves
I’m with you Andy!! No need for the circus!
Yeah just ban him for 6 weeks like he deserves.
Protect your son just like RFU protects its captain in the face of clear foul play. Who's the disgusting one here, really?
Speaks about honesty but can't be honest about his son, admitting your error and owning is the true sign of honesty, no one is perfect but if he calls it as it is he would be more credible
But Faz did plea guilty
What is disgusting is a parent defending a child when they should reprimand them and lead them to do better. No wonder he continues with the dirty play.
Lovely to see he’s spot on
Can’t wait until he’s the English coach
The Woaks are taking over rugby now .. that tackle was hardly a yellow card , that’s why they rescinded the red card .
Get your eyes and brain (if you have any) checked mate.
If that's the case why didn't the recind the Japanese players that infringed a few weeks prior. The problem imo wasn't the hit, it's the consistency. If Farrell gets a pass so should everyone else
Shameful
@@Rayzajw Agreed .
> that tackle was hardly a yellow card
And your refereeing qualifications are???
Maybe he should focus on his inability to coach his son one of rugby's most fundamental skills ... the tackle.
Honestly, he should have opted out of discussing this mess.
Your son is wrong Andy.... Just face the facts and admit it. Owen has always had the idea that he is above the law . Ask Tiger Woods what happens when you find yourself there. And unfortunately you Andy played a role in getting him there. It's hard but true
Did did face the facts, he did admit it. He pleaded guilty.
@benrawson007 but still tried to get out of the red card. So once again he is not taking responsibility for his actions. Don't play with words. You're wasting everyone's time
@@johnsantos3392 Pleading guilty is not trying to get out of it, quite the opposite. It was the 4 independant judges that said there was mitigation.
@benrawson007 looks like your blind faith has backfired 🤪🤪😂😂😂
Grow up Andy
Can’t fault a dad for defending his son, but Owens actions have been, for years now, unacceptable. World rugbys hypocrisy knows no bounds. AB’s gunna smack em all
I'm disgusted that your making your son out to be the victim
Let's not forget what he done to the players head .
Poor owen clowns the lot of them
The game has gone soft
Your mom has gone soft
@@mauroger86 Your mum has gone floppy 😂
Hmm
Say this person who approves of O.Farrell's dangerous unsafe as well as disgraceful techniques.
I do like the Farrells. Owen & Andy. Bit of dog in them. Now lets see Owen do more of the same this weekend.
To be fair Andy certainly has the dog in him..Owen on the other hand, slightly more of the Bitch the way he goes about things🤣🤣🤣🤣