I really enjoyed your thoughts and critiques on the design. I love how you gave constructive feedback at each point when you noticed an issue and your thought process behind that. I recently came across your channel as someone beginning to learn UI/U design and your expertise has been so helpful. Thank you! Subscibed!😄
I like the inconsistencies and variations, at least it’s more possible now. It should also stimulate good designers to ‘correct’ a lot of the uncomfortablenesses thus making it their own.
That is a fair point, but I think a design system shouldn't encourage people to "fix it" but rather to explore new ideas around it, as many junior designers will take inconsistencies as the truth and repeat them in their projects thinking that Google had to do it right ;)
@@MalewiczHype Oh that's true, back in the 90s one of my assistant designers came up with what I thought was this trendy new cool style that all the kids must be doing these day, of underlining text headlines with the rule crashing into the text baseline. Ages later at a party I asked him about it and he said it was because he was new to QuarkXpress and didn't know how to adjust the position of the rule!
Great video! I’m excited for the final release as I’ve been on the beta since day one and I like the rounded and square buttons or even rectangular ones because it is different and I, not one of those people who wants every single button the exact same thing. My one hope and wish is that every app made by google gets this design and gets a full redesign unlike how it’s been with google apps thus far.
I love this approach by google! I think the final version will correct some bugs that you described like the roundness inconsistency. Looking forward to seeing this in my hand.
You nailed it. Not everything is an improvement. The messy shapes, sliders, icon sizes etc. are definitely NOT an improvement. I miss the old shadows. Overall, the previous MD seems slicker than the new MY. Perhaps MY still needs to grow on me.
I think they're showing many different shapes and styles to show that you can personalize, so it's possible some will only be a part of one theme, not across all themes. We'll have to wait and see :)
Great video! I love seeing your breakdown and thoughts. I agree with you on all accounts except the timeline design. While timelines are traditionally done as you are suggesting, I believe there is a shift towards the way Google has implemented the timeline in the mockup.
But the quick settings shade is stuck with massive buttons that don't fit. I don't get to stick with the design that I have and want. It's still not about me. If it was, I would have the choice of whether I got this "update" or not.
Late to watch you video on Material You, glad that I found it. I have the same thought with you in the beginning and I am a bit of OCD in arranging my phone desktop. However, after trying to rebuild my phone desktop with irregular shapes and asymmetric arrangement, I feel ease and relax using it. Somehow, it breaks my OCD. For the part at 6:22, it is inherited from Samsung OneUI design which screen is broken down into 2 sections: Viewing Section and Interaction Section. Samsung was trying to reduce items on view section, so that it is easier to use especially with one hand. This viewing section will be reduced to a smaller section when the screen is scrolled up. To be honest, I think this move is quite brilliant from Samsung. Anyway, I like your review so much that I hope to see more reviews from you on different UI/UX.
samsung absolutely peaked Android design at the time when they came up with oneUI like i considered samsung ui to be absolutely garbage before oneUI but it went from dead last to the absolute peak. and now i like people are talking that approach, Phone are becoming bigger and thats fair but then using them becomes a pain because of that, i still remember me before a specs sheet who*e but now i place software UI/UX above my specs as long as it passes the bottom line for performance
Those small icons on big shapes made me uncomfortable too. Google also went to a great length with animation. Let's hope the stable version looks and works great.
Great video! Have you considered reviewing car UX and design languages? With car manufacturers moving towards a touch screen first paradigm, this might be a great venue to expand into. Would love to see a review of the Tesla UX, iDrive 8 and MBUX.
I personally am sick that it's just another flavor of minimalism which we had for years. I want full on skeuomorphism back just to see some much-needed change.
Nice points! I am very curious about accessibility with all this personalization, I believe visual and cognitive disasters are more likely to happen with this new UI.
Love when there is design changes in a company... but unfortunately, personally I think its very messy, it's almost elementary (from things like different radius on rounded corners) , less attention to details..I believe most people are just excited for change. But this will age like Material Design.. Tad bit generic...Android has always been the more obnoxious OS... there is just so much going on this version. I wish they would have just stripped it down and focused more on usability. Subtle themes would have been better imo.. this is just too all over the place.
I agree, I mostly like it because it's not typical Material Design anymore, but this is an early beta, so I think they'll be gathering some feedback from users still :) + Bigger buttons are quite good for usability, some of the other choices not as much.
@@MalewiczHype I'm confused by this frequent comment I hear from design fans. People seem to love the chunkier UI, but for me as a user it simply adds extra steps every time I use the device. Why should this be a positive?
@@JuiceBeleren It's probably people who like to mess around with their devices and are always looking for new ways to customize and make the device pretty. Most of the people don't care about this stuff, except for consistency where they notice when it's missing or wrong. An example is Apple Design, it's basically the same for years now and it's very very simple, it's boring for people who mess around with the UI but definitely good for all the others since it doesn't have much changes and it looks really cohesive across the entire set of Apple devices, services and even 3rd party stuff that's based off it.
Hi Malewicz! Great video as always! I really love your book about UI, it's very detailed and well explained. I have a question about your upcoming course. I was excited to do the pre-order but the bank informed me they don't recommend gumroad as a safe platform for online paying. So, they have stopped the paying process due to safety reasons. Do you know what can be the issue or is there any other way of ordering the course? Sorry for bothering you
Hi! Thanks so much! Some banks are weird that way, but Gumroad is a safe platform (based in Silicon Valley) - from what I know there is an option to use PayPal to checkout there, but it only works for some people so not sure why...
I think the roundness and the overly bloated shapes needs to be dialed down. Users can easily change colours but not shapes. Something less extreme will look more balanced and less ugly in my opinion. The worse are the brightness and volume sliders…
I am waiting for the material you design being rendered on RUclips and other Google apps, considering I am very much invested in google ecosystem of apps like docs music yotube sheets Chrome Collab photos gmail and calendar and many other google apps. But I doubt google Collab will get this design. I am using pixel 4a android 12 beta and I don't want them to change google assistant design as shown in video. I like the present one much better.
I'd go to Medium, especially the UX Collective and Prototypr and read some articles there instead of watching design oriented stuff at I/O. You'll definitely learn a lot more from these articles as they cover a much wider variety of topics.
I mean it's a good thing to do a refresh of material design, as it's the bootstrap framework of design systems. I had a pixel phone, and the inconsistencies were everywhere. I'm not really convinced that this time they'll do a better job. 😋 I'm even willing to take a bet, haha! Also Google saying they care about privacy is the funniest thing this year. 😂 I've run my tests on a rooted device, the amount of data and location pings a day is staggering (even though I had all the possible location and privacy toggles disabled in my settings). My battery life doubled when I purged google. Don't believe the hype of big corporations, for privacy phones choose degoogled android (AOSP roms), or even iOS (although their E2E encryption is just false advertising when using iCloud).
I don't own an Android phone (we have a couple of test devices at the office), but my main phone is still the Light Phone II, and I have an iPhone for work related stuff (and watching premiere videos on the beach ;-). Care to elaborate on the encryption in iCloud? I don't keep a lot of stuff there, but just curious.
@@MalewiczHype Sure! E2E encryption means that there is no spare keys for apple to decrypt the data. Look at LastPass, all that they see in their DB is a hashed mess with basically no hope of decrypting without the master password. When You use iCloud then apple has a spare key to Your data, especially iMessage. It does that for several reasons, however it's not as simple as to turn off iCloud. When You talk with someone with enabled iCloud (almost everyone) they will have a conversation copy in their not E2E encrypted backup. The technology is there, it shouldn't be this way, but the FBI will not sleep at night with full E2E encryption on the most popular device on earth (so I'm not blaming Apple). ;) Don't get me wrong, iPhone is *MILES* better than Googled Android in terms of privacy. I'm not using iOS because it lacks features I find necessary, so degoogled AOSP it is. 😀 Here's a link to an article explaining this better than I ever could 😂: www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure...-unless-you-have-icloud-enabled/
It’s funny how Apple act as if they’re the leader in privacy when their iCloud backups don’t even have a simple E2E encryption. Aren’t backups turned on by default? Why are our messages, photos, files and other content backed up and made available for Apple to see without explicitly warning us about it. How is this considered okay?
4:53 Why would you want irregular-shape widgets? Square ones work just fine. Maybe a round version for an analog clock... The shapes in the video are complete and utter crap.
Their idea is to be able to customize - some people may like irregular shapes, some may prefer squares - but you can choose those shapes yourself, so your version of the OS can only have squares. This is actually a good idea.
@@clavierpixelkey650 I think windows 10 is underdesigned and way too inconsistent. You might like what I call underdesigned (tastes differ) but I think anyone would agree it is way too inconsistent.
It still looks like garbage. There's an overuse of pastels and Google's insistence of not doing a Dark Theme properly clash with it. A proper Dark Theme should use predominantly black, with the colours serving as accents to direct the user attention to the UI elements that matter. Google doesn't do that. They cover everything in rat grey and then slap pastel colours over it, making everything look like the insides of a cat's stomach. It's a dumb design approach that only works with Light themes because that one uses white. Not to mention that, from the accessibility point of view, Google's Grey Theme is a nightmare as it lacks proper contrast.
I was waiting for this!!!! ❤️❤️ A good analysis form a great designer! 😁 love the video.
Glad you enjoyed it! I had fun making it :)
I really enjoyed your thoughts and critiques on the design. I love how you gave constructive feedback at each point when you noticed an issue and your thought process behind that. I recently came across your channel as someone beginning to learn UI/U design and your expertise has been so helpful. Thank you! Subscibed!😄
Thank you 🙏
I like the inconsistencies and variations, at least it’s more possible now. It should also stimulate good designers to ‘correct’ a lot of the uncomfortablenesses thus making it their own.
That is a fair point, but I think a design system shouldn't encourage people to "fix it" but rather to explore new ideas around it, as many junior designers will take inconsistencies as the truth and repeat them in their projects thinking that Google had to do it right ;)
@@MalewiczHype Oh that's true, back in the 90s one of my assistant designers came up with what I thought was this trendy new cool style that all the kids must be doing these day, of underlining text headlines with the rule crashing into the text baseline. Ages later at a party I asked him about it and he said it was because he was new to QuarkXpress and didn't know how to adjust the position of the rule!
Love the humor in this video! As always thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! I’m excited for the final release as I’ve been on the beta since day one and I like the rounded and square buttons or even rectangular ones because it is different and I, not one of those people who wants every single button the exact same thing. My one hope and wish is that every app made by google gets this design and gets a full redesign unlike how it’s been with google apps thus far.
I love this approach by google!
I think the final version will correct some bugs that you described like the roundness inconsistency.
Looking forward to seeing this in my hand.
We'll see which way they'll go, definitely more interesting than it was before.
You nailed it. Not everything is an improvement. The messy shapes, sliders, icon sizes etc. are definitely NOT an improvement. I miss the old shadows. Overall, the previous MD seems slicker than the new MY. Perhaps MY still needs to grow on me.
I think they're showing many different shapes and styles to show that you can personalize, so it's possible some will only be a part of one theme, not across all themes. We'll have to wait and see :)
This is easily the best looking smartphone os and it's not even close
Great video! I love seeing your breakdown and thoughts. I agree with you on all accounts except the timeline design. While timelines are traditionally done as you are suggesting, I believe there is a shift towards the way Google has implemented the timeline in the mockup.
Thanks! I'll look into that, but haven't seen that many examples of their way in ongoing projects yet.
But the quick settings shade is stuck with massive buttons that don't fit. I don't get to stick with the design that I have and want. It's still not about me. If it was, I would have the choice of whether I got this "update" or not.
You make things simple!
Thanks, that's exactly my goal! :-)
Late to watch you video on Material You, glad that I found it. I have the same thought with you in the beginning and I am a bit of OCD in arranging my phone desktop. However, after trying to rebuild my phone desktop with irregular shapes and asymmetric arrangement, I feel ease and relax using it. Somehow, it breaks my OCD.
For the part at 6:22, it is inherited from Samsung OneUI design which screen is broken down into 2 sections: Viewing Section and Interaction Section. Samsung was trying to reduce items on view section, so that it is easier to use especially with one hand. This viewing section will be reduced to a smaller section when the screen is scrolled up. To be honest, I think this move is quite brilliant from Samsung.
Anyway, I like your review so much that I hope to see more reviews from you on different UI/UX.
samsung absolutely peaked Android design at the time when they came up with oneUI like i considered samsung ui to be absolutely garbage before oneUI but it went from dead last to the absolute peak. and now i like people are talking that approach, Phone are becoming bigger and thats fair but then using them becomes a pain because of that, i still remember me before a specs sheet who*e but now i place software UI/UX above my specs as long as it passes the bottom line for performance
Those small icons on big shapes made me uncomfortable too.
Google also went to a great length with animation. Let's hope the stable version looks and works great.
Yeah, I wonder how close these are to what Apple had patented, as some look quite similar ;)
@@MalewiczHype at this point, idc who copies what from whom. I just want a fluid, modern and functional UI that google has been lacking for years.
It just seems so inconsistent. I’m hoping they fix a lot of the inconsistencies before release. Great video!
Thanks Derek! It is a step in a better direction, but I think it's still mostly mockups and an early beta - we'll just have to wait and see :)
When will it release?
@@PiyushSharma-bo6pp most likely alongside the Pixel 6 so October 28
Thanks for your review, very interesting!
Glad you liked it!
This is a extremely informative video, great work!
Glad it was helpful!
If things were consistent, people call it boring. If they different, they call it inconsistent. I don't understand.
Excellent review mate....well done. Thanks!
cheers!
Good job. I hope Google will watch your review
Who knows, maybe they watch everything that’s on youtube anyway 😎
Thank you for your valuable insights!
My pleasure! I wasn't expecting to do this video, but it was quite fun to dive in :)
Great video!
Have you considered reviewing car UX and design languages?
With car manufacturers moving towards a touch screen first paradigm, this might be a great venue to expand into.
Would love to see a review of the Tesla UX, iDrive 8 and MBUX.
Yes I do have a plan for that 😎
Fantastic analysis, I like it so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I personally am sick that it's just another flavor of minimalism which we had for years. I want full on skeuomorphism back just to see some much-needed change.
Good points. Nice review
I just hope this design is natively supported in Android studio not a library that doesn't even include everything Google uses in their apps
If it's going to take over Material Design, it probably will be. But knowing the reality they may forget about a few things ;)
Nice points! I am very curious about accessibility with all this personalization, I believe visual and cognitive disasters are more likely to happen with this new UI.
They say you can tweak accessibility features yourself (i.e increase contrast or add thick borders to everything), so that may not be that bad.
@@MalewiczHype Oh, it’s nice to know that!
Love when there is design changes in a company... but unfortunately, personally I think its very messy, it's almost elementary (from things like different radius on rounded corners) , less attention to details..I believe most people are just excited for change. But this will age like Material Design.. Tad bit generic...Android has always been the more obnoxious OS... there is just so much going on this version. I wish they would have just stripped it down and focused more on usability. Subtle themes would have been better imo.. this is just too all over the place.
I agree, I mostly like it because it's not typical Material Design anymore, but this is an early beta, so I think they'll be gathering some feedback from users still :) + Bigger buttons are quite good for usability, some of the other choices not as much.
Personally I think it's meant to be imperfect like us, people, you
@@MalewiczHype I'm confused by this frequent comment I hear from design fans. People seem to love the chunkier UI, but for me as a user it simply adds extra steps every time I use the device.
Why should this be a positive?
@@JuiceBeleren It's probably people who like to mess around with their devices and are always looking for new ways to customize and make the device pretty.
Most of the people don't care about this stuff, except for consistency where they notice when it's missing or wrong.
An example is Apple Design, it's basically the same for years now and it's very very simple, it's boring for people who mess around with the UI but definitely good for all the others since it doesn't have much changes and it looks really cohesive across the entire set of Apple devices, services and even 3rd party stuff that's based off it.
Hi Malewicz! Great video as always! I really love your book about UI, it's very detailed and well explained. I have a question about your upcoming course. I was excited to do the pre-order but the bank informed me they don't recommend gumroad as a safe platform for online paying. So, they have stopped the paying process due to safety reasons. Do you know what can be the issue or is there any other way of ordering the course? Sorry for bothering you
Hi! Thanks so much!
Some banks are weird that way, but Gumroad is a safe platform (based in Silicon Valley) - from what I know there is an option to use PayPal to checkout there, but it only works for some people so not sure why...
I think the roundness and the overly bloated shapes needs to be dialed down. Users can easily change colours but not shapes. Something less extreme will look more balanced and less ugly in my opinion.
The worse are the brightness and volume sliders…
I am waiting for the material you design being rendered on RUclips and other Google apps, considering I am very much invested in google ecosystem of apps like docs music yotube sheets Chrome Collab photos gmail and calendar and many other google apps. But I doubt google Collab will get this design. I am using pixel 4a android 12 beta and I don't want them to change google assistant design as shown in video. I like the present one much better.
Is material you doesn't have tab component?
Sir as a UX designer student what i can watch in Google I/O 2121 cuz everything is for developer..
I'd go to Medium, especially the UX Collective and Prototypr and read some articles there instead of watching design oriented stuff at I/O. You'll definitely learn a lot more from these articles as they cover a much wider variety of topics.
I mean it's a good thing to do a refresh of material design, as it's the bootstrap framework of design systems. I had a pixel phone, and the inconsistencies were everywhere. I'm not really convinced that this time they'll do a better job. 😋 I'm even willing to take a bet, haha! Also Google saying they care about privacy is the funniest thing this year. 😂 I've run my tests on a rooted device, the amount of data and location pings a day is staggering (even though I had all the possible location and privacy toggles disabled in my settings). My battery life doubled when I purged google. Don't believe the hype of big corporations, for privacy phones choose degoogled android (AOSP roms), or even iOS (although their E2E encryption is just false advertising when using iCloud).
I don't own an Android phone (we have a couple of test devices at the office), but my main phone is still the Light Phone II, and I have an iPhone for work related stuff (and watching premiere videos on the beach ;-). Care to elaborate on the encryption in iCloud? I don't keep a lot of stuff there, but just curious.
@@MalewiczHype Sure! E2E encryption means that there is no spare keys for apple to decrypt the data. Look at LastPass, all that they see in their DB is a hashed mess with basically no hope of decrypting without the master password. When You use iCloud then apple has a spare key to Your data, especially iMessage. It does that for several reasons, however it's not as simple as to turn off iCloud. When You talk with someone with enabled iCloud (almost everyone) they will have a conversation copy in their not E2E encrypted backup. The technology is there, it shouldn't be this way, but the FBI will not sleep at night with full E2E encryption on the most popular device on earth (so I'm not blaming Apple). ;) Don't get me wrong, iPhone is *MILES* better than Googled Android in terms of privacy. I'm not using iOS because it lacks features I find necessary, so degoogled AOSP it is. 😀
Here's a link to an article explaining this better than I ever could 😂: www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure...-unless-you-have-icloud-enabled/
It’s funny how Apple act as if they’re the leader in privacy when their iCloud backups don’t even have a simple E2E encryption. Aren’t backups turned on by default? Why are our messages, photos, files and other content backed up and made available for Apple to see without explicitly warning us about it. How is this considered okay?
Wow I want this material me
Oh dear why can’t it be September tomorrow 🙏🏻 🥰
Is it necessary to go from Material Design 2 to 3?why? thanks
What do you mean?
How to off this
Honestly I did not like material design. Android 11 was good just it needed a bit polish 🙄
That brightness slider looks horrible
I actually prefer those thicker ones than those super thin ones (for usability), but yeah, still some inconsistencies here and there.
@@MalewiczHype yessir
@@MalewiczHype I'm fine with it being thick but when the brightness isn't full reaming part have a thick line and that looks weird in my opinion
Exactly! The best is the Jelly Bean sliders, or the Samsung One UI 2.1 sliders that expand in thickness.
personal - personal - personal
I've heard it's VERY personal 🤔
@@MalewiczHype i was pointing out to the edit !!😁
4:53 Why would you want irregular-shape widgets? Square ones work just fine. Maybe a round version for an analog clock... The shapes in the video are complete and utter crap.
Their idea is to be able to customize - some people may like irregular shapes, some may prefer squares - but you can choose those shapes yourself, so your version of the OS can only have squares. This is actually a good idea.
I hate that shit so much. Everything in it has weird corner radius, spacing and swamp pastel colours.
I haaaate material you 😂😂
Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal Personal!!😂😂😂😂😂
I guess they decided to make it ... personal ... or something ;)
It's not personal enough in my opinion there's so much more that can be done, android is still very much incomplete
Who cares about colors and shapes wtf. Just give me more usability and accessibility. It's what it means to be android.
And privacy? 😅
Everytime I see Matias Duarte he looks more and more ridiculous
He's more of an artist than a Designer (especially with fashion).
I think it's kinda cute :)
This looks horrible. I lost my faith in android and windows devices when it comes to design. They simply don't care.
It's a beta - I think it looks better than before, but still not something I'd go for in my device.
I actually like Windows 10.
Not sure about Windows 11, though.
@@clavierpixelkey650 I think windows 10 is underdesigned and way too inconsistent. You might like what I call underdesigned (tastes differ) but I think anyone would agree it is way too inconsistent.
It still looks like garbage.
There's an overuse of pastels and Google's insistence of not doing a Dark Theme properly clash with it.
A proper Dark Theme should use predominantly black, with the colours serving as accents to direct the user attention to the UI elements that matter.
Google doesn't do that. They cover everything in rat grey and then slap pastel colours over it, making everything look like the insides of a cat's stomach.
It's a dumb design approach that only works with Light themes because that one uses white.
Not to mention that, from the accessibility point of view, Google's Grey Theme is a nightmare as it lacks proper contrast.
Material design sucks.. Material You socks even more