Ash nailed it in one. GW staff want to keep their jobs so they want metrics that show they are doing their jobs. And there is always the 80/20 rule where 80 percent of sales come from 20 percent of your customers. GW and WotC are both offering a lot of products for the Whales of top tier collectors, tournament players, or game masters
To a degree, I've reached a point in which I don't care to know WHY GW do what they do. I just want their games to be better. These are evocative tools so we can play toy soldiers with our friends, so I need to be inspired by a product with personality and with worries beyond the needs of the shareholders.
Thanks this was a really refreshing view on the topic. I find that there is a tendency for online content about game systems to converge on the things that spikes care about.
I was at Warhammer World today and when I commented that the new Skaven are a bit too Grimdark for me, the staff said that's deliberate. Same for Stormcast. It felt like it's a way to distinguish it from Old World and possibly play on the 40k grimdark appeal.
Tbh I don't really think they're that grimdark. Just slighly more grimdark than they used to be. I kinda like the new ruination designs. Stormcast do need to be hopeful and heroic (to distinguish them from space marines) but if they don't have any edge they just feel like superheroes to me.
Really loved this. The fact that you and Chris and Jay are old friends really shows up on screen. One note, when you guys were joking it got hard to hear what was making you laugh. Just a bit better sound quality would be appreciated. Still, loved it overall.
The prices are already out. $260 US I think I remember, so no, not $200 Canadian. Spearhead? Ummm. Units start 12” apart, smash together in the middle of the board, then roll dice. You could just about leave the models home and just bring your army list and a bag of dice.
The prices for the Launch Box are, it’s not a starter set. The ‘starter set’ spearhead box (like with Leviathan) will probably come out over the summer as part of their ‘three starters’ format they did with 40K.
Reason it will be more expensive than the Dominion Box: The Amount of out of their production capability items that are included in the box. 2 Hardback books, multiple card sets (stat cards, and the GHB), the instruction booklets for assembly, and if the game board is the normal thick card that they usually have and not the paper version in the Warcry starter are all factors that will increase the price. These are all items that are manufactured out of house and are fixed costs that they cannot eat unlike plastic sprues. The extra added cool stuff they are adding are going to increase the retail price.
I just bought the Darkoath box because I've been wanting them to exist since Silver Tower came out. Got Flesheater Courts box because Ushoran just looks like a Boss and I needed him, but I also need an army to play with him. I'm excited to play 4th ed, specially cause the indexes mean I can play with all my armies and lend them out to new players to get them into the game.
Interesting. I prefer casual and narrative games and I’ve stopped playing both 40k and AoS. The rules are too complex and constantly changing. I can’t get immersed in the moment when I’m moving the figures around the table because I’m having to think about meta game stuff, not just tactics and manoeuvre, the figures and their stat blocks. Despite all the rules the games don’t feel any more balanced than previous editions. I do like the Legions Imperialis game though - it’s pretty much the only GW game I’m playing at the moment.
You know after watching this in full, l don't get why you find it so funny, that people lost their army. I bought in to sacrosanct mid 2ed. It were the models l liked . Now 100% of my army is legends. In eastern europe legends isn't played against. So l spend saving 5 years , waiting for sacrosanct to be fixed ("gw can't leave them bad for ever"). And it looks like l just wasted time and money. And there is a lot of people like that here. Beastman were a popular army and from what l have been told those people waited since 2ed. I understand that western and other markets are different. But really you guys don't think, that when l lose my gryphon mage general and GW makes a hippogrphon General, people like me could be unhappy? I really didn't get my army for free. It ate my hobby money and time for 5 years. I have an old 4year phone, because l bought 6 dracolithes and Astreia this christmas.
"In Eastern Europe, legends isn't played against." But in reality, that's the real rub, isn't it? I intentionally play in more narrative type groups that use legends or even just play miniature agnostic rules so no matter what happens with "official" rules, we'll never not have a game with our toys. The models will exist forever, find people that won't let GW dictate how you can play with them.
Is there something wrong with using the models as proxys for what's in the game, the sequitors like liberators and all? I mean people have been playing 40K have had so many models come and gone, all the firstborn space marines are being phased out or slowly removed by the fact the rules are being change to make them unfavourable. This was not the first time, and sadly it will not be the last time models will be removed either through rules or better sculpts or discontinuing the line all together. Enjoy the hobby cause you like and love the hobby and not having to find ways to hate yourself for doing the hobby
(1) This is why I tell new players, "Buy the models because you like the models, play the rules because you like the rules, but don't buy models for their rules." Nothing in GW's games is sacred anymore, and eventually everything will be moot. I bought a full Ravenwing army during 9th and now it's all Legends, but I still enjoyed painting and displaying them so no loss. (2) You still own the physical models, and they can be used in so many other games systems. It's not like GW came to your house and repossessed the figures. My FEC spend more time as demons or ghouls for Zona Alfa or Reign in Hell than they're used for AOS. All those models are still going to be supported by OPR. Just because they don't work in AOS anymore doesn't have to be the end.
@@FluteGnome I did. And I rebased them to accommodate. Now I rebased them again to accommodate OW. Same with Chaos Dwarves and Tomb Kings. I played all those factions until they became unplayable. And grumbling sounds abound as I rebased them once again.
Edit: Pretty sure the terms and conditions of the "win the launch box" competition said it would be 425aud. I never liked battlepacks. They felt so constricting when making my armies. I was the type of player that would paint an army for the theme of it and go to a tournament. That scene definitely feels different now and not a place for that.
I'm all in for AoS. WH40k has nice setting, but gameplay went too comp for me. AoS is competetive as well, but for some reason it's level of comp that I can stomach. I also prefer AoS minis to 40k ones, especially to paint. I hope Spearhead is well thought out and will stick the landing. I was worried when they first mentioned that current Vanguard boxes and upcoming Spearhead ones will be all-in-one, no additional units, because that would be greatly imbalanced. Reinforcements rule seems like a good patch for that problem, even designers mentioned that they learned from mistakes of Combat Patrol (heh, shots fired). Great talk! I really like seeing you interact with Chris and Jay :D
Actually , do you want to know what's sad? That Warhammer is no longer about the common everyday gamer person. It's about You tube personalities, competitive tournament players, metas and meta analysis folks. It's about professional painter's and hobnobbing at gamer conventions. Its become a soulless, political , fomo money making machine that the average person with an average job can hardly even begin to understand or relate to.
@nraketh The only way to really unplug is just play solo. Which is what I already do. It saved my hobby and gave me back my agency. You don't need other folks t0o enjoy wargaming.
This starter coming in at $265 is so awful. I was thinking about getting it, but the price made me start doing the math in my head, I just want Skaven, 40 of the 50 Skaven are clanrats. I own, like, 80 already. The Grey Seer is fine, he's very pedestrian to me. The lord on rat mutant is nice, don't have to have him. Rat ogres are cool, don't need more. The giant gatling gun is the best model, but why pay $212 with just that impressing me? And putting the hardback Spearhead book in the over-priced starter, so that existing whales will be sure to get a copy of their introductory game to get people started on AoS? Are they hoping they just toss the thing to some kid at the game store Mean Joe Greene style in order for it to disseminate into the right hands? Maybe the FOMO will be back on this one, but I just don't think it's that great for a game, especially coming off a bad edition.
Except that’s not the starter. That’s the launch box. Theyll release the starter some time after and that’s designed to be the on-ramp. They’ve explicitly said this box is for returning players as a value bundle on the contents.
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames : Fair point. But it feels like the "actual starters" feature even less value while remaining at a high cost. The Harbinger Starter is $99 for half the models of Dominion, with the best ones being pulled out and sold separately for exceedingly more, and no hardback rulebook, just the basic softback. So I'm not quite sure I see the difference here. Less money for even less value, and two very small forces even for a beginner game? What's the appeal, spend only half now to realize you'll need to spend $300 more immediately to get a proper game? And that you should be kicking yourself you didn't buy the "launch box" because now you'll need to pay three times as much to get the rest of the contents?
sadly, the "mental load" of these games is driving me away from them. I want to build little plastic army guys, paint them, put them on the table and roll some dice...have some fun and laughs and maybe tell a bit of a story while playing and none of that is fun anymore with GW's games. I committed myself to 40K 10th for a long time and it's not really much fun...too many "gotcha" moments, too many rules, too many stats, too much, as Ash said, "off table" attention. I gave up AoS with the current edition to focus on 40K and I don't think I'm going to return to AoS with the new edition as it seems like too much stuff, just like 40K. After plenty of bad experiences with AoS in the previous edition, my interest was already waning and this new edition is the final nail...I love the look of the models but I am not going to buy them and work on them because there's no fun to be had in the playing :( Can we bury the "beer and pretzels" nonsense now? Games only seem to exist for tournaments and "competitive" play...there is no "casual" or "narrative", despite GW's pretense otherwise.
GW is so focused in the balance between factions but has completely eaten away the internal balance between units of a faction. You can't even make a fun narrative list or one with the models you like because it's so much worse than the meta build that there's no point in bringing it to non tournament games either
I had to laugh at the mention of the reaction to their GW cancelling your army video. Gee, you had a bunch of comments saying your response was tone deaf? I wonder why that happened, it's a mystery. Is Robert Stack still alive? Can he do a segment on that one? My early guess is that they got a lot of blowback because they were _just too right_ on that topic. The audience couldn't take it. 🤣🤣🤣
Skaven aren't very popular here, so finding a split box is going to be impossible for the regular joe. We had the same problem with Dominion. Ton of boxes at the stores, but NO ONE here liked Cruel Boys. The boxes are just too expensive for people to have an unused half of a box . Which creates some really odd secondary markets. Very hard to get AoS stuff. On top of that both AoS and w40k turned in to extrem event focused. Main objectives, secondaries, chaff, can't play what you want , but have to play The Build. And the builds last only a few months sometimes.
The launch of Age of Sigmar was kind of a disaster, honestly. Like they really seemed to have believed that no one would care if they just axed a 30-year-old game they invested so much into, and replaced it with something that came off as more of a joke than a real game. I still can't get over those initial rules, the goofy, childish-ass crap they expected you to do in order to get some kind of in-game bonus like a re-roll, the $80 rulebook that was hundreds of pages of "There are no rules! Take whatever and however many models you want and just put them on the table! :)"...like why do I need your rulebook then? Games still need structure and rules have to matter, units need to be balanced and costed appropriately. Otherwise, you're literally just playing with army men in the sandbox, and that's way cheaper, GW... Thankfully they seemed to figure that out pretty quickly and put out actual rules, but the initial offering was insulting to your intelligence, like they thought of their customers as actual children, and that probably isn't far off from the truth, either. That combined with the unceremonious way they killed WHF put me off for so long, it wasn't until just last year when the new "Seraphon" came out that I finally started giving half a damn about it, and even then I doubt I'll ever actually play the game. Especially after what they did with BoC earlier this year, no point taking it seriously and getting too invested if they decide to just axe the Seraphon line entirely, or switch it back to "Old World" like they're supposedly gonna do with Beastmen and wait until they're on their proper bases finally so I don't have to rebase an entire army.
I absolutely appreciate the fun and energy you guys get across, but still: one person talking with another laughing and a third commenting randomly is... really hard to follow, verging on "this is so annoying I might just stop right here". Could you please go over this in editing in the future and make it more "listener friendly"? Many thanks in advance!
I feel like there needs to be a Short where Ash just walks about the store with a clipboard while tutting loudly 😅
Only if the other two get to tutt the studio after.
bahahahaha
Ash nailed it in one. GW staff want to keep their jobs so they want metrics that show they are doing their jobs. And there is always the 80/20 rule where 80 percent of sales come from 20 percent of your customers. GW and WotC are both offering a lot of products for the Whales of top tier collectors, tournament players, or game masters
I'm a Subaru sovereign citizen and I really enjoyed this ramble! :-)
Crossing borders every time you get groceries bby!
To a degree, I've reached a point in which I don't care to know WHY GW do what they do. I just want their games to be better. These are evocative tools so we can play toy soldiers with our friends, so I need to be inspired by a product with personality and with worries beyond the needs of the shareholders.
We need to hear that Horus Heresy story!
I'd sharpie all my stuff with GW, which made it confusing when I worked at GW because was it mine, or the store/offices!
Thanks this was a really refreshing view on the topic. I find that there is a tendency for online content about game systems to converge on the things that spikes care about.
I was at Warhammer World today and when I commented that the new Skaven are a bit too Grimdark for me, the staff said that's deliberate. Same for Stormcast. It felt like it's a way to distinguish it from Old World and possibly play on the 40k grimdark appeal.
Tbh I don't really think they're that grimdark. Just slighly more grimdark than they used to be. I kinda like the new ruination designs. Stormcast do need to be hopeful and heroic (to distinguish them from space marines) but if they don't have any edge they just feel like superheroes to me.
This kind of content is amazing. I'd love to see you go to more stores and have a laugh and create some amazing conversations/content.
You know you're going to have to tell the Horus Heresy story on the next stream, now, right?
I love Corvus Belli dropping the new old Tahoo.
Hey is that the grimdark media guy?
I love Combat Patrol! I keep hoping they will lean into it more. The Spearhead rules look/sound even more interesting.
Really loved this. The fact that you and Chris and Jay are old friends really shows up on screen.
One note, when you guys were joking it got hard to hear what was making you laugh. Just a bit better sound quality would be appreciated.
Still, loved it overall.
The sovereign camri line had me in tears, this was a great format.
The prices are already out. $260 US I think I remember, so no, not $200 Canadian. Spearhead? Ummm. Units start 12” apart, smash together in the middle of the board, then roll dice. You could just about leave the models home and just bring your army list and a bag of dice.
The prices for the Launch Box are, it’s not a starter set. The ‘starter set’ spearhead box (like with Leviathan) will probably come out over the summer as part of their ‘three starters’ format they did with 40K.
Sorry, I misinterpreted. But to be honest, I actually forgot the 40k starters existed.
Gw strategy is to make yhe money up front because most players don't stick for later purchases.
Reason it will be more expensive than the Dominion Box: The Amount of out of their production capability items that are included in the box. 2 Hardback books, multiple card sets (stat cards, and the GHB), the instruction booklets for assembly, and if the game board is the normal thick card that they usually have and not the paper version in the Warcry starter are all factors that will increase the price. These are all items that are manufactured out of house and are fixed costs that they cannot eat unlike plastic sprues. The extra added cool stuff they are adding are going to increase the retail price.
I just bought the Darkoath box because I've been wanting them to exist since Silver Tower came out. Got Flesheater Courts box because Ushoran just looks like a Boss and I needed him, but I also need an army to play with him. I'm excited to play 4th ed, specially cause the indexes mean I can play with all my armies and lend them out to new players to get them into the game.
Interesting. I prefer casual and narrative games and I’ve stopped playing both 40k and AoS. The rules are too complex and constantly changing. I can’t get immersed in the moment when I’m moving the figures around the table because I’m having to think about meta game stuff, not just tactics and manoeuvre, the figures and their stat blocks. Despite all the rules the games don’t feel any more balanced than previous editions. I do like the Legions Imperialis game though - it’s pretty much the only GW game I’m playing at the moment.
I will certainly watch the Warhammer call in show!
You know after watching this in full, l don't get why you find it so funny, that people lost their army. I bought in to sacrosanct mid 2ed. It were the models l liked . Now 100% of my army is legends. In eastern europe legends isn't played against. So l spend saving 5 years , waiting for sacrosanct to be fixed ("gw can't leave them bad for ever"). And it looks like l just wasted time and money. And there is a lot of people like that here. Beastman were a popular army and from what l have been told those people waited since 2ed. I understand that western and other markets are different. But really you guys don't think, that when l lose my gryphon mage general and GW makes a hippogrphon General, people like me could be unhappy? I really didn't get my army for free. It ate my hobby money and time for 5 years. I have an old 4year phone, because l bought 6 dracolithes and Astreia this christmas.
"In Eastern Europe, legends isn't played against."
But in reality, that's the real rub, isn't it? I intentionally play in more narrative type groups that use legends or even just play miniature agnostic rules so no matter what happens with "official" rules, we'll never not have a game with our toys. The models will exist forever, find people that won't let GW dictate how you can play with them.
@@RowdiesFan1no one plays the brettonia rules for aos.
Is there something wrong with using the models as proxys for what's in the game, the sequitors like liberators and all?
I mean people have been playing 40K have had so many models come and gone, all the firstborn space marines are being phased out or slowly removed by the fact the rules are being change to make them unfavourable.
This was not the first time, and sadly it will not be the last time models will be removed either through rules or better sculpts or discontinuing the line all together.
Enjoy the hobby cause you like and love the hobby and not having to find ways to hate yourself for doing the hobby
(1) This is why I tell new players, "Buy the models because you like the models, play the rules because you like the rules, but don't buy models for their rules." Nothing in GW's games is sacred anymore, and eventually everything will be moot. I bought a full Ravenwing army during 9th and now it's all Legends, but I still enjoyed painting and displaying them so no loss. (2) You still own the physical models, and they can be used in so many other games systems. It's not like GW came to your house and repossessed the figures. My FEC spend more time as demons or ghouls for Zona Alfa or Reign in Hell than they're used for AOS. All those models are still going to be supported by OPR. Just because they don't work in AOS anymore doesn't have to be the end.
@@FluteGnome I did. And I rebased them to accommodate.
Now I rebased them again to accommodate OW.
Same with Chaos Dwarves and Tomb Kings.
I played all those factions until they became unplayable.
And grumbling sounds abound as I rebased them once again.
At 33:00 Ash really sums up the failure of Infinity Code One.
Wow! This is like GMG does Clerks. Ash, "I'm not even supposed to be here today." 😄
Edit: Pretty sure the terms and conditions of the "win the launch box" competition said it would be 425aud.
I never liked battlepacks. They felt so constricting when making my armies.
I was the type of player that would paint an army for the theme of it and go to a tournament. That scene definitely feels different now and not a place for that.
Heck ja im loving these colabs!
"My son loves looking at the pictures."
This is the sort of thing you say about your kid's "secret" nudie mag, not a monthly gaming advertisement.
I'm all in for AoS. WH40k has nice setting, but gameplay went too comp for me. AoS is competetive as well, but for some reason it's level of comp that I can stomach.
I also prefer AoS minis to 40k ones, especially to paint. I hope Spearhead is well thought out and will stick the landing. I was worried when they first mentioned that current Vanguard boxes and upcoming Spearhead ones will be all-in-one, no additional units, because that would be greatly imbalanced. Reinforcements rule seems like a good patch for that problem, even designers mentioned that they learned from mistakes of Combat Patrol (heh, shots fired).
Great talk! I really like seeing you interact with Chris and Jay :D
Actually , do you want to know what's sad? That Warhammer is no longer about the common everyday gamer person. It's about You tube personalities, competitive tournament players, metas and meta analysis folks. It's about professional painter's and hobnobbing at gamer conventions. Its become a soulless, political , fomo money making machine that the average person with an average job can hardly even begin to understand or relate to.
That’s only true if you let it be. Just unplug.
@nraketh The only way to really unplug is just play solo. Which is what I already do. It saved my hobby and gave me back my agency. You don't need other folks t0o enjoy wargaming.
@Ash (around the 30 minute mark) Those days are long gone I suspect.
This starter coming in at $265 is so awful. I was thinking about getting it, but the price made me start doing the math in my head, I just want Skaven, 40 of the 50 Skaven are clanrats. I own, like, 80 already. The Grey Seer is fine, he's very pedestrian to me. The lord on rat mutant is nice, don't have to have him. Rat ogres are cool, don't need more. The giant gatling gun is the best model, but why pay $212 with just that impressing me? And putting the hardback Spearhead book in the over-priced starter, so that existing whales will be sure to get a copy of their introductory game to get people started on AoS? Are they hoping they just toss the thing to some kid at the game store Mean Joe Greene style in order for it to disseminate into the right hands? Maybe the FOMO will be back on this one, but I just don't think it's that great for a game, especially coming off a bad edition.
Except that’s not the starter. That’s the launch box. Theyll release the starter some time after and that’s designed to be the on-ramp. They’ve explicitly said this box is for returning players as a value bundle on the contents.
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames : Fair point. But it feels like the "actual starters" feature even less value while remaining at a high cost. The Harbinger Starter is $99 for half the models of Dominion, with the best ones being pulled out and sold separately for exceedingly more, and no hardback rulebook, just the basic softback. So I'm not quite sure I see the difference here. Less money for even less value, and two very small forces even for a beginner game? What's the appeal, spend only half now to realize you'll need to spend $300 more immediately to get a proper game? And that you should be kicking yourself you didn't buy the "launch box" because now you'll need to pay three times as much to get the rest of the contents?
sadly, the "mental load" of these games is driving me away from them. I want to build little plastic army guys, paint them, put them on the table and roll some dice...have some fun and laughs and maybe tell a bit of a story while playing and none of that is fun anymore with GW's games. I committed myself to 40K 10th for a long time and it's not really much fun...too many "gotcha" moments, too many rules, too many stats, too much, as Ash said, "off table" attention.
I gave up AoS with the current edition to focus on 40K and I don't think I'm going to return to AoS with the new edition as it seems like too much stuff, just like 40K. After plenty of bad experiences with AoS in the previous edition, my interest was already waning and this new edition is the final nail...I love the look of the models but I am not going to buy them and work on them because there's no fun to be had in the playing :(
Can we bury the "beer and pretzels" nonsense now? Games only seem to exist for tournaments and "competitive" play...there is no "casual" or "narrative", despite GW's pretense otherwise.
Blood Bowl is fairly rules lite and there are plentiful laughs, even at tournaments. Nurgle torments the serious.
GW is so focused in the balance between factions but has completely eaten away the internal balance between units of a faction. You can't even make a fun narrative list or one with the models you like because it's so much worse than the meta build that there's no point in bringing it to non tournament games either
I had to laugh at the mention of the reaction to their GW cancelling your army video. Gee, you had a bunch of comments saying your response was tone deaf? I wonder why that happened, it's a mystery. Is Robert Stack still alive? Can he do a segment on that one? My early guess is that they got a lot of blowback because they were _just too right_ on that topic. The audience couldn't take it. 🤣🤣🤣
This is so chaotic, absolutely love it!
Im the guy who stopped playing AoS as it got slower and more detailed in 3rd edition
Skaven aren't very popular here, so finding a split box is going to be impossible for the regular joe. We had the same problem with Dominion. Ton of boxes at the stores, but NO ONE here liked Cruel Boys. The boxes are just too expensive for people to have an unused half of a box . Which creates some really odd secondary markets. Very hard to get AoS stuff. On top of that both AoS and w40k turned in to extrem event focused. Main objectives, secondaries, chaff, can't play what you want , but have to play The Build. And the builds last only a few months sometimes.
Tempts me, but for GW games, I think Im just gonna stick with Warcry.
Will you do a review of Trench Crusade?
Easily the most fun I've ever had playing a tabletop skirmish game. I adore what Mike and Tuomas are brewing up.
All these corporations only care about quarterly profits, not long term viability. It will ultimately be their downfall or huge restructuring.
What do they think of 40k: -
2e vs 3-7th vs 8-9th vs 10th....?!
The launch of Age of Sigmar was kind of a disaster, honestly. Like they really seemed to have believed that no one would care if they just axed a 30-year-old game they invested so much into, and replaced it with something that came off as more of a joke than a real game. I still can't get over those initial rules, the goofy, childish-ass crap they expected you to do in order to get some kind of in-game bonus like a re-roll, the $80 rulebook that was hundreds of pages of "There are no rules! Take whatever and however many models you want and just put them on the table! :)"...like why do I need your rulebook then? Games still need structure and rules have to matter, units need to be balanced and costed appropriately. Otherwise, you're literally just playing with army men in the sandbox, and that's way cheaper, GW...
Thankfully they seemed to figure that out pretty quickly and put out actual rules, but the initial offering was insulting to your intelligence, like they thought of their customers as actual children, and that probably isn't far off from the truth, either. That combined with the unceremonious way they killed WHF put me off for so long, it wasn't until just last year when the new "Seraphon" came out that I finally started giving half a damn about it, and even then I doubt I'll ever actually play the game. Especially after what they did with BoC earlier this year, no point taking it seriously and getting too invested if they decide to just axe the Seraphon line entirely, or switch it back to "Old World" like they're supposedly gonna do with Beastmen and wait until they're on their proper bases finally so I don't have to rebase an entire army.
Age of Sigmar got me and a bunch of my friends into the hobby.
True, and for all you know they might just get rid of TOW tomorrow too. No telling with GW.
2nd edition AoS was the best it's been.
What’s the spearhead meta?
Know whats funny. You are like Aaah its gonna be $300
We just got the price..... in NZ its $530 which is $470CAD.....
Get ready for $350 Canadian, Ashe. (its 265 US)
That’s the launch box. They’ve specifically said that’s for returning AoS players. The starters usually come out a month or two later
I think 4th could stand to be the best edition yet. I'm very excited.
I absolutely appreciate the fun and energy you guys get across, but still: one person talking with another laughing and a third commenting randomly is... really hard to follow, verging on "this is so annoying I might just stop right here".
Could you please go over this in editing in the future and make it more "listener friendly"? Many thanks in advance!
Ash going to be very disappointed. The price got spoiled by the terms and conditions of their little raffle and the box will be over 300 CAD$. 🤣
That’s the launch box. Theyre aimed at existing customers. I care about the starter sets that come after.
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Ohh gotcha! In that case, the jury is still out. o/
...i really hope GW isn't somehow chasing eSports money
because there is no eSports money anymore. that golden goose is dead
Never play the game never will it just didn't appeal to me, the high fantasy setting is a big turn off.
Great content, but the constant crosstalk makes it very hard to follow