A very good lens indeed! But for me, in my use, the best ultra wide lens is the Olympus 7-14mm f2.8. For two basic reasons! 7mm (against 8mm) on the wide side is more important to me than 18mm (against 14mm). After all it is an Ultra Wide! The constant aperture f2.8 is also an advantage. For those who need to use a filter, such as ND, for example, Leica is the best choice (except for those who own the Em1x and Em1 m3, as they are cameras with integrated ND). But either way, it's great to have such good options! That's why I love M43! Thanks for the video! Greetings from the Black Forest!
Thank you! I'll have to make due with my Lumix 12-60 (non-Leica) and my manual focus 8mm SLR Magic lens (great lens) -- this 8-18mm costs as much as my G85 when I bought it new!!! But thank you for checking it out -- having the elements stay behind the filter threads for the whole range is great -- it'd be nice for other lenses to do the same.
I bought the 8-18mm and G9. I took some interesting photographs of Morro Bay, Point Lobos, and Big Sur. I could screw in a variable polarizing filter. I'm heading out to the desert for landscapes there. It makes a great addition to my lens collection.
I like the lens. It is good. I need filters for video work. That is a must. No NDs is so great a thing for video to me. Any lens that does not take filters is useless to me. My dream lens would have image stabilization (not that important at 8mm but at very low light and 18mm it could come handy when you need dual stabilization or on a body without IBIS). I would really prefer constant aperture. That put me off a long time from this lens. Anything faster than F2.8 like F2.0 would make a huge deal at low light. That drives me sometimes to Sigma 18-35 with Metabones.
I'd love this lens for stills. The 18mm is close to normal FOV so don't have to swap lens unlike the 7-14mm. The Olympus 9-18mm over the years I have tried at the shops but can't seem to buy - optically I feel it isn't as impressive
bought a used (excellent condition) G7 a few months ageo. I am replacing my Canon 80ds. largely because I'm 76 and they are just too damn heavy for travel.. I am trying to cover the full range that I get with three lenses; 10to 24, 24 to 70 and 70 to 300. I'm looking for used equipment and while mu Lumis came with a 45 to 15 and a 14 to 40. I need an ultra wide. I'm busilly shopping for a good used 7 to 14 and I ned to watch the cost.
Have it now 2 weeks i used it daily for vlogging my treasure hunting videos ...love it ! Only the lens cap i realy struggle to get it on ..🤔 Mayby the if i put it at 8mm it go better , didn't knew it extended 🤣🙌
Hi Matti, I just bought this 8-18mm to my G95. I like to use sometimes a couple of filters in other lens. Do you have some suggestion to ND and Polariser filters to this one? Thanks a lot for your channel.. I'm a big fan! :-)
I don't use much filters, but for video I use the Nisi Pro-Nano ND-Vario and that is an excellent filter. If I was buying another filter, a polarizer for example, I'd probably buy Nisi, because I have good experience with their ND.
Hey Matti. Quick question as you are one of the only RUclipsrs I know with this lens and a G95. When vlogging with this combo, will the corners warp and produce that "jello" effect? I heard that this problem was fixed for the GH5 and G9, but don't know how it'll act with the G95. =)
@@mattisulanto Awh man.. Oh well. Thanks for taking the time to reply anyways. =) Your lens reviews have been my go to source of review for a while now.
Thanks for the video, very informative. What's a good lens for video for a MFT camera like the new GH6? Thinking of doing some Vlogging, like the image. Thanks!
Thanks! The Laowa is a prime and the Leica is a zoom, so I don't think they are direct alternatives. I have a review of the Laowa 7.5mm F2, please search my channel. It's good lens.
@@mattisulanto im beginner. I have g85 with kit lense 12-65. After this i got 20mm f1.7 and 12-35 f2.8. Now i want wide lense . Which one would you suggest?
@@talgatmendibaev It really depends on what you plan to use the wide for. If you want a zoom then the Leica 8-18mm is a good choice and if you are happy with a manual focus prime, the the Laowa 7.5mm could work. I have the Leica 8-18mm and I'm very happy with that.
I shoot Full Frame, APSC and MF3. Let's be honest even though the latter is lighter and more convenient for moving around, the quality of image is not as good as the former two. The price of this lens is rediculus for cameras with such a small sensor in my openion. I went for the Laowa 7.5 who's image is good enough for the mf3 srnsor and does the job at ultra? Wide angle 📷👍
Hi, is this lens perfectly rectilinear for video work just like the 7-14mm panny lens is ? Also does the f2.8 give an advantage for brighter shots in slightly low light interior shoots ? (using a G7 as the body)
I am selling my panasonic 12-35mm ii, not sure if I should get this one for more wide results or get the 12mm f/1.4 for more low light and bokeh ability.
@@joakimtollerud2172 There is a motor inside and moving parts, so some noise is inevitable and you can hear it, if you have the lens up to your ear. But, I can't say anything about your lens, because I don't know what kind of noise you hear.
@@mattisulanto That's true, was just wondering when G90 is primary made for photography if there are any changes. Otherwise G90 is using the same sensor like GH5 if I'm correct.
This has been noticed on Panasonic MFT cameras (possibly on other brands) when IBIS is on and the lens is a wide-angle or super-wide -- I'd say 14mm or wider. It looks like there is some interaction between the IBIS and the lens correction where the lens correction moves the image at the same time as the IBIS is trying to correct for motion. I definitely see this on my G85 at the 12mm end of my 12-60mm. I have not really seen it on my 25mm Lumix, 40-150mm Lumix or 42.5mm Lumix lenses. And I tried to make it happen on my manual-focus 8mm SLR Magic lens and I barely saw it. I presume because the camera does not have any lens-compensation routine for this non-Panasonic lens. A quick way to test is turn off IBIS, set you lens to the widest setting, and walk around shooting video (try 50/60fps or higher) -- but try to walk smoothly -- pan the camera and gently move the camera up and down. I think that with the IBIS off you should not get the "warping."
this lense does not stand a chance against the 7-14 2.8 from olympus. the oly is wider has weather sealing and a constant 2.8 no reason to buy the leica. for shooting real estate i dont need filters but 7mm are very useful
It depends how you look at it. The Zuiko doesn’t stand a chance, because the Leica can use filters, it reaches 18mm and is also weather sealed. In video I need filters and 8mm is wide enough😀
One of my favourite lenses from Panasonic!
Thanks Matt. I watched this about 6 months ago and bought it. Now this is like a whole new lesson since back then.
A very good lens indeed! But for me, in my use, the best ultra wide lens is the Olympus 7-14mm f2.8. For two basic reasons! 7mm (against 8mm) on the wide side is more important to me than 18mm (against 14mm). After all it is an Ultra Wide! The constant aperture f2.8 is also an advantage. For those who need to use a filter, such as ND, for example, Leica is the best choice (except for those who own the Em1x and Em1 m3, as they are cameras with integrated ND). But either way, it's great to have such good options! That's why I love M43! Thanks for the video! Greetings from the Black Forest!
The downside of the Oly 7-14 is the flaring which is really bad with sun from the sides.
I have this lens. I don't have a lot of complaints about it but I'm a little jealous of the Olympus 8-25 mm. The extended range would be very handy.
Thank you! I'll have to make due with my Lumix 12-60 (non-Leica) and my manual focus 8mm SLR Magic lens (great lens) -- this 8-18mm costs as much as my G85 when I bought it new!!! But thank you for checking it out -- having the elements stay behind the filter threads for the whole range is great -- it'd be nice for other lenses to do the same.
Thanks for doing this video - Panasonic should give you the very first 10-25 f1.7 to test - you do an excellent job of reviewing gear
Thanks for your kind words.
I bought the 8-18mm and G9. I took some interesting photographs of Morro Bay, Point Lobos, and Big Sur. I could screw in a variable polarizing filter. I'm heading out to the desert for landscapes there. It makes a great addition to my lens collection.
Thanks for sharing.
Matti, FYI only, I've been increasing your thumb-up counts as I watch your videos.
Good review. Look forward to seeing the new Panasonic Wide angle 10-25mm F1.7 lens when it comes out.
Thanks. Me too, I want to try the 10-25mm as soon as it comes out.
Kiitos Matti! Great review. I just bought this over the soon to come 8-25/4. Think this one suits me better. Will be most exciting!
Thanks. Enjoy your new lens.
I went for the 7-14mm in the end, but I did really consider this one as well. I needed the extra width though and I am happy with the 7-14 so far.
Not a bad choice either.
I like the lens. It is good. I need filters for video work. That is a must. No NDs is so great a thing for video to me. Any lens that does not take filters is useless to me.
My dream lens would have image stabilization (not that important at 8mm but at very low light and 18mm it could come handy when you need dual stabilization or on a body without IBIS). I would really prefer constant aperture. That put me off a long time from this lens. Anything faster than F2.8 like F2.0 would make a huge deal at low light. That drives me sometimes to Sigma 18-35 with Metabones.
Really appreciate your reviews! Thanks!
Thanks!
Great review, I’m considering buying this lens for video.
Thank you!
I love and use the 7-14.. No need for filters. Super architectural lens! Cheers...
Thanks! That's another great wide zoom.
I am watching this a year later, but I'd like to say that I really like your photos taken with this lens.
Thanks so much!
I'd love this lens for stills. The 18mm is close to normal FOV so don't have to swap lens unlike the 7-14mm. The Olympus 9-18mm over the years I have tried at the shops but can't seem to buy - optically I feel it isn't as impressive
That range is indeed very useful and 2mm means a lot.
Love that T shirt.
Thanks!
bought a used (excellent condition) G7 a few months ageo. I am replacing my Canon 80ds. largely because I'm 76 and they are just too damn heavy for travel.. I am trying to cover the full range that I get with three lenses; 10to 24, 24 to 70 and 70 to 300. I'm looking for used equipment and while mu Lumis came with a 45 to 15 and a 14 to 40. I need an ultra wide. I'm busilly shopping for a good used 7 to 14 and I ned to watch the cost.
some lovely glass : )
Hi, amazing vid!! Is there any lens adapter that would allow me to connect this 8-18 lens to the s5iix? 🧐
There is no such adapter.
Have it now 2 weeks i used it daily for vlogging my treasure hunting videos ...love it !
Only the lens cap i realy struggle to get it on ..🤔
Mayby the if i put it at 8mm it go better , didn't knew it extended 🤣🙌
Hi Matti, I just bought this 8-18mm to my G95. I like to use sometimes a couple of filters in other lens. Do you have some suggestion to ND and Polariser filters to this one? Thanks a lot for your channel.. I'm a big fan! :-)
I don't use much filters, but for video I use the Nisi Pro-Nano ND-Vario and that is an excellent filter. If I was buying another filter, a polarizer for example, I'd probably buy Nisi, because I have good experience with their ND.
Hey Matti. Quick question as you are one of the only RUclipsrs I know with this lens and a G95. When vlogging with this combo, will the corners warp and produce that "jello" effect? I heard that this problem was fixed for the GH5 and G9, but don't know how it'll act with the G95. =)
I have to disappoint you, I have not used that combo for vlogging, so I can't say how it works.
@@mattisulanto Awh man.. Oh well. Thanks for taking the time to reply anyways. =) Your lens reviews have been my go to source of review for a while now.
Thanks for the video, very informative. What's a good lens for video for a MFT camera like the new GH6? Thinking of doing some Vlogging, like the image. Thanks!
Here is a video for you: ruclips.net/video/pVM7BzaY4ms/видео.html You should also consider the relatively new Panasonic Leica 9mm F1.7.
hi, I wonder how it is for black and white photography. thank you.
I'm not sure what you mean, but black and white is no problem with this lens.
Thanks for 07:08 ... 👍
Thank you too!
Can I Get blur background from this lens ? Especially by 18mm
Yes, it's possible, if you shoot wide open and at close distances. But of course, this lens is no the best bokeh maker.
it's about as good as lumix 12-60mm f3.5-5.6, so not much bokeh
Nice review. Is laowa 7.5mm f2 a good alternative?
Thanks! The Laowa is a prime and the Leica is a zoom, so I don't think they are direct alternatives. I have a review of the Laowa 7.5mm F2, please search my channel. It's good lens.
@@mattisulanto im beginner. I have g85 with kit lense 12-65. After this i got 20mm f1.7 and 12-35 f2.8. Now i want wide lense . Which one would you suggest?
@@talgatmendibaev It really depends on what you plan to use the wide for. If you want a zoom then the Leica 8-18mm is a good choice and if you are happy with a manual focus prime, the the Laowa 7.5mm could work. I have the Leica 8-18mm and I'm very happy with that.
I shoot Full Frame, APSC and MF3.
Let's be honest even though the latter is lighter and more convenient for moving around, the quality of image is not as good as the former two.
The price of this lens is rediculus for cameras with such a small sensor in my openion. I went for the Laowa 7.5 who's image is good enough for the mf3 srnsor and does the job at ultra? Wide angle 📷👍
Thanks for sharing. I'm really happy you found the perfect ultra wide for you purposes.
Hi, is this lens perfectly rectilinear for video work just like the 7-14mm panny lens is ? Also does the f2.8 give an advantage for brighter shots in slightly low light interior shoots ? (using a G7 as the body)
It's rectilinear and F2.8 gives one stop advantage compared to F4. It's the same as increasing ISO from 200 to 400.
@@mattisulanto > Thanks a lot.
Do you have distortion in the corner? My copy has..
No distortion. However, if you use a RAW developer, that does not support lens profiles or software correction, you will see distortion.
Can you put square filter system with this lens?
I don't see why not.
I am selling my panasonic 12-35mm ii, not sure if I should get this one for more wide results or get the 12mm f/1.4 for more low light and bokeh ability.
You just have to decide what you want😀
I bought the 12mm 1.4 and it is amazing in any way. But now I'm looking for that 8-18mm... I think this is a really first world problem, isn't it? 😇
Do you still recommend this for landscape and architure photography? I have the Leica 12-60.
It's great lens and if you need a wide zoom for whatever use, I'd recommend this one.
sulantoblog do you also hear the autofocus when filming? I do.
@@joakimtollerud2172 I have had no issues with the AF noise, but I use always some kind of external microphone.
sulantoblog but if you put your ear next to lens you hear the autofocus working quite clearly? Just wondering if my lens is defective.
@@joakimtollerud2172 There is a motor inside and moving parts, so some noise is inevitable and you can hear it, if you have the lens up to your ear. But, I can't say anything about your lens, because I don't know what kind of noise you hear.
Is there a big difference between using this lens on G90 and GH5 in photography?
You are going to get the same results what comes to the lens no matter which Lumix camera you use.
@@mattisulanto That's true, was just wondering when G90 is primary made for photography if there are any changes. Otherwise G90 is using the same sensor like GH5 if I'm correct.
As far as I can tell the photo quality looks the same on both cameras. The sensor is probably the same 20Mp unit.
@@mattisulanto Yes, its same 20Mp. Thanks :)
I have this lens. Only odd thing on my G9 is weird warp in video. It does this odd warp effect on the left and right edges of the frame.
This has been noticed on Panasonic MFT cameras (possibly on other brands) when IBIS is on and the lens is a wide-angle or super-wide -- I'd say 14mm or wider. It looks like there is some interaction between the IBIS and the lens correction where the lens correction moves the image at the same time as the IBIS is trying to correct for motion. I definitely see this on my G85 at the 12mm end of my 12-60mm. I have not really seen it on my 25mm Lumix, 40-150mm Lumix or 42.5mm Lumix lenses. And I tried to make it happen on my manual-focus 8mm SLR Magic lens and I barely saw it. I presume because the camera does not have any lens-compensation routine for this non-Panasonic lens. A quick way to test is turn off IBIS, set you lens to the widest setting, and walk around shooting video (try 50/60fps or higher) -- but try to walk smoothly -- pan the camera and gently move the camera up and down. I think that with the IBIS off you should not get the "warping."
The Liquid Valium you have stabilator off?
@@aengusmacnaughton1375 Great tip. I will try that. Thx!
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Sorry but, even though I'm a Lumix shooter, my Oly 7-14 f2.8 Pro all the way. Also, 1200€ for a variable aperture is a huge laugh from Panasonic...
this lense does not stand a chance against the 7-14 2.8 from olympus. the oly is wider has weather sealing and a constant 2.8 no reason to buy the leica. for shooting real estate i dont need filters but 7mm are very useful
It depends how you look at it. The Zuiko doesn’t stand a chance, because the Leica can use filters, it reaches 18mm and is also weather sealed. In video I need filters and 8mm is wide enough😀
THE porn lens
Real photographers don't need a t-shirt saying what real photographers need or not ;) .
Maybe real photographers also have some sense of humor😀