Hi Valentin! For hand held vlogging, the most relevant lenses I have to choose from are the 12mm F/1.4 and the 7-14 F/4. Although the 12mm is a great lens, and allows good separation with shallow depth of field, I do agree with you that 12mm (on MFT) is not quite wide enough for hand held. So I mostly use the 7-14, at 9.5mm, which I think is the ideal focal length. From your lenses I'd choose the 8-18 I think, with the 10-25 being too big/heavy. What I'd love to see is a small 9mm or 10mm f/1.7 prime, similar in style to the Pana Leica 15mm f/1.7. That would be perfect for me. 🙂 Enjoyed your video. 👍
Hey Kenny, thanks for your comment! I'd also love to see a small little prime in that range and feel like the MFT system really lacks some native ultra wide options that have fast aperture, autofocus, a filter thread and maybe even OIS. Thanks for watching!
@@ValentinKossenko I now have the Laowa 10mm f/2.0 and really like it. It's almost exactly the same size as the Pana Leica 15mm f/1.7. It's manual focus, but it does have electronic connection so the aperture is controlled from the camera, the camera recognises the focal length, and the Exif info is recorded. It also takes the same 46mm screw on variable ND filter I have for my 15mm and 25mm lenses which is great. Although I'd love it to have AF, it's still a brilliant small and light (125g) lens at the focal length I was seeking. 🙂
As usual, dear Valentin, a great review. Thanks. Let me give you an idea i will test out in the future, when I have more time: I am a passionate user of Manfrotto gear. Even the two kids of a friend, 2 and 4 years, are amazed by screwing in the different parts together. For V-Logging I will use a long extension bar of a pivoting arm. (MA 146B). On the back you attach a 3 kg weight. On the front a second recktangle bar of approx 1m. On the downside of this small bar a weight of 1 or 2 kg. On the top, the camera directed to you. Of course the entire installation is more heavier, but you carry it with one of your arms, straight down, like a suit case. First advantage is, that you distress your muscles. Second advantage is, that you have more distance from the camera to your face, that results in less geometric distorsion of nose and ears. The general rule in portrait photography is, to use a focal length, minimum 50% more as the standard 50mm equivalent in "Full Frame" 24x36mm. The third advantage is a smaller face, in comparision to the entire angle of view. That might make it possible to use a cheaper 24mm equivalent angle in a less weighty lens. The fourth advantage is absorbing shakes. On a long bar balancing the "flying" camera is better. I hope I have the time soon, beginning v-logging Stay healthy and happy :)
Would you really vlog with that HUGE 10-25 lens? It’s heavy, it’s huge, it’s shaky, and it’s too close for vlogging. 12-60 is decent because it’s a kit lens and that’s what most people will start out with. Plus it has stabilization and weather sealing. 8-18 would be perfect if it had a constant f2.8 aperture. Wide fov, decently compact, zoom capability, and weather sealed. Wish you could’ve included the 7-14mm f4 in your comparison.
I have vlogged with the 10-25 and it has worked out quite nicely. It is a heavy lens, but if you do it a couple of times, you will get used to it. I absolutely agree with you on the 8-18 and also wish it was a constant f/2.8 or even wider aperture.
Might be better to rename the video to Best Panasonic MFT Zoom Lenses for Vlogging. So let's talk primes! There are a couple of them that are great for a number of reasons, other than the excellent Panasonic 12mm f1.4 you mentioned. For bokeh, I can recommend the Olympus 17mm 1.2. It's at the very limit of what you'd consider a Vlog-lens but even with this 35mm/34mm FF-equivalent it's possible, especially if you have a smaller camera (such as the Olympus e-m5 mark iii or the Panasonic GX9). You can also hold the lens instead of the camera for more reach. I'd say try before buy. The best lens for vlogging though I think is the Panasonic 15mm f1.7 - sure it doesn't go as wide as 10mm such as the Zoom lens you mentioned but I doubt you will have issues holding a camera for an extended period with a lens this small, unless you have a huge camera and even then I think you'll be fine. My wife loves this lens because of the portability and vlog-ability. It's cheap so it's a perfect beginner lens too, the field of view makes it a great all-around lens. Sure, the 12mm f1.4 is wider, but it's also much heavier and more expensive. I have both and often choose the 15mm because it's so much smaller yet still produces excellent bokeh. Lastly, there is the Olympus 12mm f2.0 which is small but expensive. It's a trade-off, I bought the Leica 12mm f1.4 instead because the prices were so similar. It depends what your needs are but if you're ok with f2.0 you might love this lens.
Thanks for the idea on the title, highly appreciated! Inlcuding zoom as a keyword is definitely not a bad idea. Panasonic is already in the title though and I don't want to include it twice. I'll definitely need to check out these primes too. I always felt like more than 12mm was too tight of a crop for my needs when it comes to vlogging, but then again, I'm not doing this on a regular basis. Creating this video was kinda fun though and if people enjoy it, I will make more vlog type videos in the future. Thanks again, always love reading your comments! #neverstoplearning
I have the 15mm 1.7 and think it's a great lens but not wide enough for hand held vlogging. I have the 12mm 1.4 as well, and think it's not wide enough either. I'd love a 10mm f/1.7 in the same style as the 15mm f/1.7. 🙂
I own the 8-18mm but have decided to switch to a DJI Pocket 2 for Vlogging (filming myself while moving). I’ll bring the G9 along with prime lenses for filming the majority of content.
Hey Nelson, I currently shoot mostly everything in just Natural with contrast, sharpness and noise reduction set to -5 in the GH5. When it comes to color correction / grading I shift the skintones towards magenta a little with the new color warper that was introduced in Resolve 17 and raise my shadows to about 5 IRE (to make it look like there is more dynamic range) and put a slight s-curve on the footage to add some contrast and make it pop. Hope that helps! I might still make a video on this if more people are interested in the exact settings in Resolve.
All of them have great sharpness and detail. Depends on what type of focal length you want most. I'd say the 12-60 is the most versatile as it offers the longest range of the three. If you're more into architecture and need ultra wide angle fov, the 8-18 might be the better choice for you. For astro, the 10-25 with its wide open f/1.7 aperture might yield the best results. It honestly depends, but I can recommend all three. They're expensive, but worth it if you can afford them.
Sure, but only if you shoot during the day. Otherwise ƒ/4 may become too slow and lead to blurry / noisy footage. That's why I think the 10-25mm ƒ/1.7 is such a versatile lens.
Am an absolute fan of your channel and a fan of your content. Great respect to you and your work ... I'm looking for a lens that is perfect for filming and it should be a Leica lens .. Do you have any recommendations for me? I think the 12mm 1.2 is very, very strong and convinces me. But I also need more focal lengths for filming What do you think of Panasonic Leica 10-25mm I know it is very expensive can you recommend it is it better than the 12mm 1.2? You've been working with the lens for a little longer now. What are your long-term experiences? Can the 12-35 or 12-60 Leica keep up with the 10-25 or is there really a massive difference in image & video quality here. I found the 12-60 autofocus amazingly good in your videos. I would be very happy to hear your personal opinion. Do you have any other recommendation? I would be happy to hear from you. Best Regards From Vienna Austria..
In terms of image quality, the 10-25 f/1.7, 12-35 f/2.8 and 12-60 f/2.8-4 are all great. The 10-25 is better for low light though and offers shallower depth of field, which is what I love that lens for. It also offers advanced features for video work and has a lot better manual focusing than the other two lenses. The 10-25 is currently my all time favorite lens and the weight isn't too bad either for what the lens has to offer. It is quite an expensive lens, but if you think about what types of primes you can replace with it, it is definitely worth it -- if you can afford it. I personally haven't used the 12mm f/1.2 yet, but I have used the 42.5mm f/1.2 and although I really like the shallow depth of field at f/1.2, I find it sometimes lacks the sharpness all the way at f/1.2 and introduces a little too much chromatic aberration for my taste, which is why I often use the 50-200mm f/2.8-4 instead. As I said before, if you can afford it, the 10-25 is definitely a great lens I can only highly recommend. I can't wait to see what type of performance the 25-50 f/1.7, that Panasonic will release soon, will have to offer. It looks to have the same build as the 10-25 f/1.7, which I really learned to love. The 25-50 f/1.7 might replace the 42.5mm f/1.2 for me, as I prefer zoom lenses for the enhanced versatility most of the time!
The 8-18 is the only lens I got rid off. Still own both the 10-25 and 12-60. The 10-25 is my favorite, but when I know I'll only take photos during the day and need some extra reach, the 12-60 is amazing.
As far as I know none of these lenses are truly parfocal. But if you zoom in first, focus and then zoom out, some magic happens and it holds focus pretty decently. I think that the camera is doing it's job with an additional algorithm there, but that needs further testing to verify.
It might not be your typical MFT lens but it is still one of my absolute favorites and offers outstanding performance for a lens of this size, especially for video work.
How would you rate your vlogging muscles from 1-10? 🤓😝
Certainly not 10 !
...probably 5
I think -2 😂
🤣🤣
8. Very good.
Super helpful, thanks mate! Nice simple video but right to the point. Think we need to go and try the 8-18.
Glad it was helpful! Appreciate your comment!
I have 8-18 with olympus em10mkiii and looking for gh5ii for more video centric canera 😊
Hi Valentin! For hand held vlogging, the most relevant lenses I have to choose from are the 12mm F/1.4 and the 7-14 F/4. Although the 12mm is a great lens, and allows good separation with shallow depth of field, I do agree with you that 12mm (on MFT) is not quite wide enough for hand held. So I mostly use the 7-14, at 9.5mm, which I think is the ideal focal length. From your lenses I'd choose the 8-18 I think, with the 10-25 being too big/heavy. What I'd love to see is a small 9mm or 10mm f/1.7 prime, similar in style to the Pana Leica 15mm f/1.7. That would be perfect for me. 🙂 Enjoyed your video. 👍
Hey Kenny, thanks for your comment! I'd also love to see a small little prime in that range and feel like the MFT system really lacks some native ultra wide options that have fast aperture, autofocus, a filter thread and maybe even OIS. Thanks for watching!
@@ValentinKossenko I now have the Laowa 10mm f/2.0 and really like it. It's almost exactly the same size as the Pana Leica 15mm f/1.7. It's manual focus, but it does have electronic connection so the aperture is controlled from the camera, the camera recognises the focal length, and the Exif info is recorded. It also takes the same 46mm screw on variable ND filter I have for my 15mm and 25mm lenses which is great. Although I'd love it to have AF, it's still a brilliant small and light (125g) lens at the focal length I was seeking. 🙂
As usual, dear Valentin, a great review. Thanks.
Let me give you an idea i will test out in the future, when I have more time:
I am a passionate user of Manfrotto gear.
Even the two kids of a friend, 2 and 4 years, are amazed by screwing in the different parts together.
For V-Logging I will use a long extension bar of a pivoting arm. (MA 146B). On the back you attach a 3 kg weight.
On the front a second recktangle bar of approx 1m.
On the downside of this small bar a weight of 1 or 2 kg.
On the top, the camera directed to you.
Of course the entire installation is more heavier, but you carry it with one of your arms, straight down, like a suit case.
First advantage is, that you distress your muscles.
Second advantage is, that you have more distance from the camera to your face, that results in less geometric distorsion of nose and ears.
The general rule in portrait photography is, to use a focal length, minimum 50% more as the standard 50mm equivalent in "Full Frame" 24x36mm.
The third advantage is a smaller face, in comparision to the entire angle of view.
That might make it possible to use a cheaper 24mm equivalent angle in a less weighty lens.
The fourth advantage is absorbing shakes. On a long bar balancing the "flying" camera is better.
I hope I have the time soon, beginning v-logging
Stay healthy and happy :)
That sounds like a great idea. Thanks for sharing and all your positive feedback. Can't wait to see what you'll come up with!
3kg 🌈
Would you really vlog with that HUGE 10-25 lens? It’s heavy, it’s huge, it’s shaky, and it’s too close for vlogging.
12-60 is decent because it’s a kit lens and that’s what most people will start out with. Plus it has stabilization and weather sealing.
8-18 would be perfect if it had a constant f2.8 aperture. Wide fov, decently compact, zoom capability, and weather sealed.
Wish you could’ve included the 7-14mm f4 in your comparison.
I have vlogged with the 10-25 and it has worked out quite nicely. It is a heavy lens, but if you do it a couple of times, you will get used to it. I absolutely agree with you on the 8-18 and also wish it was a constant f/2.8 or even wider aperture.
Might be better to rename the video to Best Panasonic MFT Zoom Lenses for Vlogging.
So let's talk primes!
There are a couple of them that are great for a number of reasons, other than the excellent Panasonic 12mm f1.4 you mentioned.
For bokeh, I can recommend the Olympus 17mm 1.2. It's at the very limit of what you'd consider a Vlog-lens but even with this 35mm/34mm FF-equivalent it's possible, especially if you have a smaller camera (such as the Olympus e-m5 mark iii or the Panasonic GX9). You can also hold the lens instead of the camera for more reach. I'd say try before buy.
The best lens for vlogging though I think is the Panasonic 15mm f1.7 - sure it doesn't go as wide as 10mm such as the Zoom lens you mentioned but I doubt you will have issues holding a camera for an extended period with a lens this small, unless you have a huge camera and even then I think you'll be fine. My wife loves this lens because of the portability and vlog-ability. It's cheap so it's a perfect beginner lens too, the field of view makes it a great all-around lens. Sure, the 12mm f1.4 is wider, but it's also much heavier and more expensive. I have both and often choose the 15mm because it's so much smaller yet still produces excellent bokeh.
Lastly, there is the Olympus 12mm f2.0 which is small but expensive. It's a trade-off, I bought the Leica 12mm f1.4 instead because the prices were so similar. It depends what your needs are but if you're ok with f2.0 you might love this lens.
Thanks for the idea on the title, highly appreciated! Inlcuding zoom as a keyword is definitely not a bad idea. Panasonic is already in the title though and I don't want to include it twice.
I'll definitely need to check out these primes too. I always felt like more than 12mm was too tight of a crop for my needs when it comes to vlogging, but then again, I'm not doing this on a regular basis. Creating this video was kinda fun though and if people enjoy it, I will make more vlog type videos in the future. Thanks again, always love reading your comments!
#neverstoplearning
I have the 15mm 1.7 and think it's a great lens but not wide enough for hand held vlogging. I have the 12mm 1.4 as well, and think it's not wide enough either. I'd love a 10mm f/1.7 in the same style as the 15mm f/1.7. 🙂
I own the 8-18mm but have decided to switch to a DJI Pocket 2 for Vlogging (filming myself while moving). I’ll bring the G9 along with prime lenses for filming the majority of content.
I can understand that as working with the DJI Pocket 2 is probably a lot more comfortable.
Hi, thank you... could you show us your setuo in the camera and how you grade it? and how do you export it? your color are amazing...
Hey Nelson, I currently shoot mostly everything in just Natural with contrast, sharpness and noise reduction set to -5 in the GH5. When it comes to color correction / grading I shift the skintones towards magenta a little with the new color warper that was introduced in Resolve 17 and raise my shadows to about 5 IRE (to make it look like there is more dynamic range) and put a slight s-curve on the footage to add some contrast and make it pop. Hope that helps! I might still make a video on this if more people are interested in the exact settings in Resolve.
Since you had all three, would have loved a comparison for landscape sharpness and capability!
All of them have great sharpness and detail. Depends on what type of focal length you want most. I'd say the 12-60 is the most versatile as it offers the longest range of the three. If you're more into architecture and need ultra wide angle fov, the 8-18 might be the better choice for you. For astro, the 10-25 with its wide open f/1.7 aperture might yield the best results. It honestly depends, but I can recommend all three. They're expensive, but worth it if you can afford them.
How about the Olympus 8-25 f4 on vlogging then 🤔🤔？ could be quite versatile if we're doing vlogging and landscape stills at the same time
Sure, but only if you shoot during the day. Otherwise ƒ/4 may become too slow and lead to blurry / noisy footage. That's why I think the 10-25mm ƒ/1.7 is such a versatile lens.
@@ValentinKossenko I love the 10-25 too but did not have the budget 🤣🤣
thank you for the video!!!
I'm glad it was helpful for you!
Am an absolute fan of your channel and a fan of your content.
Great respect to you and your work ...
I'm looking for a lens that is perfect for filming and it should be a Leica lens ..
Do you have any recommendations for me?
I think the 12mm 1.2 is very, very strong and convinces me.
But I also need more focal lengths for filming
What do you think of Panasonic Leica 10-25mm
I know it is very expensive can you recommend it is it better than the 12mm 1.2?
You've been working with the lens for a little longer now.
What are your long-term experiences?
Can the 12-35 or 12-60 Leica keep up with the 10-25 or is there really a massive difference in image & video quality here.
I found the 12-60 autofocus amazingly good in your videos.
I would be very happy to hear your personal opinion.
Do you have any other recommendation?
I would be happy to hear from you.
Best Regards From Vienna Austria..
In terms of image quality, the 10-25 f/1.7, 12-35 f/2.8 and 12-60 f/2.8-4 are all great. The 10-25 is better for low light though and offers shallower depth of field, which is what I love that lens for. It also offers advanced features for video work and has a lot better manual focusing than the other two lenses. The 10-25 is currently my all time favorite lens and the weight isn't too bad either for what the lens has to offer. It is quite an expensive lens, but if you think about what types of primes you can replace with it, it is definitely worth it -- if you can afford it. I personally haven't used the 12mm f/1.2 yet, but I have used the 42.5mm f/1.2 and although I really like the shallow depth of field at f/1.2, I find it sometimes lacks the sharpness all the way at f/1.2 and introduces a little too much chromatic aberration for my taste, which is why I often use the 50-200mm f/2.8-4 instead. As I said before, if you can afford it, the 10-25 is definitely a great lens I can only highly recommend. I can't wait to see what type of performance the 25-50 f/1.7, that Panasonic will release soon, will have to offer. It looks to have the same build as the 10-25 f/1.7, which I really learned to love. The 25-50 f/1.7 might replace the 42.5mm f/1.2 for me, as I prefer zoom lenses for the enhanced versatility most of the time!
8-18 looked the worst to me as far as clarity. The 10-25 and the 12-60 both looked different, but good. A tie for those two.
The 8-18 is the only lens I got rid off. Still own both the 10-25 and 12-60. The 10-25 is my favorite, but when I know I'll only take photos during the day and need some extra reach, the 12-60 is amazing.
Hey Valentin, great video as always. Just have one question about these lenses. Do any of them lose focus as you zoom in and out?
As far as I know none of these lenses are truly parfocal. But if you zoom in first, focus and then zoom out, some magic happens and it holds focus pretty decently. I think that the camera is doing it's job with an additional algorithm there, but that needs further testing to verify.
Thanks
You're welcome!
Hey. You are creating really good content !
Hey Jean, thank you so much. Appreciate it!
Why are you shaking 10-25mm f1.7
Too heavy for you
My broken back hurts just watching this video
Since Corona I wasn't really out traveling so I probably lost most of my vlogging muscles. 😅
Very nice vid like, nice day and best greetings John;)1671
Thanks, highly appreciate your feedback and wish you a great day too!
Жалко, что не на русском или украинском!
10-25 LOL Are you the HULK? Way too heavy and big for this comp.!!!
It might not be your typical MFT lens but it is still one of my absolute favorites and offers outstanding performance for a lens of this size, especially for video work.
The 10-25 looks amazing though..... even though it's large for an MFT lens.
@@raizt1596Totally agree. You also get used to it, it takes a little while though. The f/1.7 aperture is totally worth it. The lens is truly amazing.