Star Citizen Week in Review - CIG is Talking the Talk Again

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  • @SaltEMike
    @SaltEMike  Месяц назад +11

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    • @Eli9A
      @Eli9A Месяц назад

      i looked around the website and they have some really good looking watches. i ordered that star trek limited edition. i hope it'll be a good watch.

    • @ZOMGbies
      @ZOMGbies Месяц назад

      Father's day in Germany is 11 (eleven) months away...........

  • @NotGovernor
    @NotGovernor Месяц назад +115

    Video starts at 2:30.
    Lets see those chapters man. :)

    • @idkanymore6897
      @idkanymore6897 Месяц назад +1

      thank you

    • @ComplexGhost
      @ComplexGhost Месяц назад +1

      Thank you

    • @BunnyStupidHandles
      @BunnyStupidHandles Месяц назад +7

      Include the commercial in the "intro" chapter so they don't get butthurt that you made dedicated chapter to skip it

    • @kazer4040
      @kazer4040 Месяц назад

      Thanks

    • @Endymion.
      @Endymion. Месяц назад +1

      You are a god.

  • @luistigerfox
    @luistigerfox Месяц назад +18

    I think rather than a bunch of hornet mk 2 variants, it'd be better to just offer a larger variety of center modules. We have the stor all, the dual turret, the single turret. Once we have a function for the tracker's SWACs, could put it in as a module. Harder to make a sensible pod to replace the stealth variant, but maybe they could say it's some kind of signal jammer pod. That takes care of all important variants other than 'super hornet', which was basically just an extra seat. If they really wanted they could also add EMP or QED pods.
    My two cents anyway.

    • @hibikikensaki
      @hibikikensaki Месяц назад +1

      That's what actually ended up happening with the mk1 variants anyway, once you have the ship variant you can just pluck out the center thing and swap it. You can slap the f7a mk1 dual size 3 turret onto any other mk1. I think it's probably just a confusing and outdated cockpit setup for new players as not even the giant military ships put that many mfds in your face. Imho the mk1 just feels like it was designed first and you notice a lot of missing quality of life things from newer ships.

    • @latch9781
      @latch9781 Месяц назад

      Stealth can be a paint that we can just call a RAM equivalent

  • @HotWheels1776
    @HotWheels1776 Месяц назад +26

    Man, I really gotta give you props. Youve gone from being one of my least favorite SC content creators to probably my most watched over the course of the last four years of me backing this game. Keep it up, bro, youre killing it!

    • @the5starx
      @the5starx Месяц назад +5

      New players dislike Mike. But you stick around long enough, and he starts to make a lot more sense 😂

    • @SaltEMike
      @SaltEMike  Месяц назад +17

      You know what’s funny…I never changed, your perspective did…

    • @andreww2925
      @andreww2925 Месяц назад

      @@SaltEMike I've been on SC since 2017, so I see where you are coming from. All new backers have rose-tinted glasses and false certainty. I would say, though, that the game is night and day from when I first started. It would just be nice to see it released. Maybe I'll leave it to my kids in the will when/if it ever releases.

    • @HotWheels1776
      @HotWheels1776 Месяц назад +1

      @@SaltEMike you’re probably right haha. I will say though with the updates so far this year some of the hype I had when I originally backed is starting to come back. Just with a whole lot more skepticism

    • @LucidStrike
      @LucidStrike Месяц назад

      ​​​​​@@HotWheels1776Kinda. He did change, becoming MUCH less salty - He and Space Tomato joke about how SaltEMike isn't that salty anymore -but it was because he became more satisfied with the game and how it's being developed. From HIS perspective, he's less salty because they stopped giving him so much to be salty about.
      But yeah, he used to be too salty to me, and I wasn't a new backer, just a more chill dude. 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @Thearmiktz
    @Thearmiktz Месяц назад +13

    I was going to buy an ironclad because indeed it is rad... I just needed to add 10 more bucks or something in those lines. I didn't because like you were saying, I already did my part, they need to provide theirs. There are a bunch of us OG backers that are already dead and never saw their dream ship 😢. Long story short I'm buying a F endeavor (it's my dream ship), and nothing more till they concrete their end of the deal. Keep up the good work SaltEMike your info rocks.
    Ps. The random 10 dollar increase after the original price was the drop that spilled my glass.

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 Месяц назад +1

      I'm another long suffering day 1 backer from 2012. I made the choice to close my wallet in 2014 when they decided to skip the original delivery dates on the promise of 'more better, a couple extra years'. Sure, I hope everyone who wants to wait an extra decade gets everything they ever wanted and more, well implemented, but I've never believed in rewarding bait and switch behavior and have regretted the choice less with every passing year. At the start of the project the narrative was that Chris had been constrained by publishers in the past. The reality that has unfolded is that Chris needs someone to force him to deliver or he'll dally and spend for a decade plus beyond the timeframe he sold you when he was taking your money.

    • @minecraftprovie5076
      @minecraftprovie5076 Месяц назад +1

      @@RN1441he has investors. And that’s why you see this speed-up and rush to 1.0

  • @baronvonschnellenstein2811
    @baronvonschnellenstein2811 Месяц назад +3

    @SaltEMike - re: Modularity (again): 1. Hull C tail section is a Module - that was the Proof of Concept to put in PU; 2. Retaliator gold pass + implementing _its_ modules was always "next on the cards" after Hull C; 3. Detachability of Caterpillar's Command _Module_ -> One of many modules the Cat is _supposed_ to have. There's still stuff for CIG to work out and fix there:
    - Note that Tali's interchangeable modules are still a bit wonky, in practice. Swapping modules and then calling up ship via ASOP results in a tonne of errors in the console where whichever system responsible for streaming in the assets is complaining about not being able to connect ports b/w module(s) and ship chassis. After a module swap, the Tali then takes some time to show up in the Hangar (if at all!)
    Price hikes: In many ways, I have no beef with CIG "sunsetting" the Hornet Mk I. However the timing and lack of notice (after bumping up the prices a lot after IAE) is cynical;
    - Similarly, bumping the price - without notice - on the Ironclad Assault _JPEG_ overnight was flat-out cynical. Clearly, more ppl took a CCU chit for it than pledging the full amount for a JPEG that may take years to show up in the PU 😂
    - BTW: If the SCM speed of the Ironclad is commensurate with the Cat (or slower), then I don't think the Ironclad "obsoletes" the Cat or the C2. Cat is supposed to be modular, like Carrack is and will fit in smaller places; C2 is substantially faster and more nimble than the Cat and presumably the Ironclad. There will be valid use-cases for each.

  • @Sattorin
    @Sattorin Месяц назад +36

    "Sure it's been six years since we announced the Kraken, but you know what would really speed up development on that? Selling another concept ship." LOL - thanks for your effort in putting this together, as always ❤

    • @yonoqueriacuenta
      @yonoqueriacuenta Месяц назад

      Leave room to the Crucible owners :)

    • @123Andersonev
      @123Andersonev Месяц назад

      where are you going to get the asset pool for the Kraken from?, the cuttie?, buccie?, nope, the only real reusable Drake asset pool right now is the Corsair and Cat and it's nowhere near enough.

    • @hamhamtv321
      @hamhamtv321 Месяц назад +1

      @@123AndersonevDoesn‘t change that the sold a ship that they knew they couldn‘t make at the time and now they‘re again selling a ship they know they can‘t make because people would be outraged if the ship came out right after being announced, because of the backlog of sold jpegs that already exists.

    • @123Andersonev
      @123Andersonev Месяц назад

      @@hamhamtv321 you aren't sold ships, you're sold a concept, it's more like buying a house on the architects plan before the foundation has gone in, you get in early and it's cheaper but subject to change, once the bricks and mortar are in the price goes up, ultimately you're funding the building of the plan, once you have the asset yeah you will pay more because it's openly marketable but if nobody was funding the initial build there wouldn't be any houses or someone else would be building it at a profit.
      but anyway let's say you buy 15 pallets of bricks and 10 windows at the end of the build you only use 10 pallets and 5 windows, now you can either take the pallets and windows back and pay the returns fee or you keep them and use them to build 50% of the next house or 25% of a bigger house...

  • @jockcop4205
    @jockcop4205 Месяц назад +3

    I have to disagree about it “destroying” the C2 series. There is a bunch of balancing factors that are both in game and planned that mean each has its place.

    • @ajooser
      @ajooser Месяц назад

      planned 😂

  • @--Richard--
    @--Richard-- Месяц назад +3

    I tend to skip through Jared's mealy-mouthed excuses when watching ISC & SCL, so thanks for subjecting yourself to it for the good of us all

  • @snoop_lion
    @snoop_lion Месяц назад +6

    When are they not talking the talk. They talk more about what they are doing than ever making any real progress. Can't even remember how many times I've seen "npcs no longer stand on chairs" in patch notes and yet there they are.

  • @SubprimePorcupine
    @SubprimePorcupine Месяц назад +3

    Crafting and Base building should be able to bind all the play loops together for progression, back burner the generic PvE missions and put these 2 things and all their tie in's on the front burner and turn them up full blast, this will get the game play on high gear which will drive people to want to come play and in turn buy ships, it's a win win for everyone.

  • @aguy446
    @aguy446 Месяц назад +51

    Earning money is so rough right now. Everything is broken. It's no wonder there's so many people exploiting

    • @Jormungrandrserpent
      @Jormungrandrserpent Месяц назад +5

      mining works,, its just slow

    • @Venhili
      @Venhili Месяц назад +8

      Salvage and bunkers are both still profitable, just sell CM instead of RMC

    • @pedraaaa
      @pedraaaa Месяц назад +6

      Pirating works fine

    • @AlphaF8C_Pilot
      @AlphaF8C_Pilot Месяц назад +5

      Scraping with the vulture or the reclaimer also works too! But then you get accusations for "duping" just because your at the TDD terminal. Crazy the state the playerbase is in right now. Also tons of posts of those c2's at area 18, which have been there since the release of 3.22.1 on EVERY SERVER, yet people accuse the player base of duping rmc lol! When it is a CIG problem :(

    • @alexpetrov8871
      @alexpetrov8871 Месяц назад +3

      I do not grind ingame money at all. Normally I just buy 50-100mil auec right after wipe, then buy ingame every ship I want, buy some new ships for store credits, then play the way I want. Experiment with ingame mechanics, evaluate new ships, mine, salvage, bounty hunt, do box quests, team up with people - anything. I play this way last two years - it works fine. No need to grind at all.

  • @Shindignick
    @Shindignick Месяц назад +14

    For everyone - That's Blender they do concept mesh in.

  • @stefanbauer423
    @stefanbauer423 17 дней назад

    What people forget is the fact that the bigger a ship gets, the more useless it becomes once it crashed. Have fun looking at the terminal waiting for 30 minutes until it spawns. What a great game! Much fun

  • @TheComander5
    @TheComander5 Месяц назад +105

    I just... I don't get the mentality that having the Ironclad automatically makes all the other cargo ships obsolete. You need something better to work towards for that sense of progression, and it makes complete sense for someone to work their way up to a C2 or a Caterpillar, and then to a Hull C or Ironclad. Doesn't have to be one or the other.

    • @Haegemon
      @Haegemon Месяц назад +5

      Makes useless other ships when people pays per win. SC players have been buying ships like crazies, because there wasn't anything else to do during decades.

    • @Dashfinite
      @Dashfinite Месяц назад +1

      You are right, but what if already owned a real money C2 and the will to spend on upgrades, or a stable of comparatively less useful hauling ships to refund(melt), those ships would become obsolete in comparison.
      Usually those who field ships near the ironclad in size, already have the mind and means to get it, and might not even have to spend much to get it. Mike is one of those.

    • @NightNord
      @NightNord Месяц назад +9

      Star Citizen: where ship useless is measured by "should I melt my ship for it?"

    • @Tentacl
      @Tentacl Месяц назад +1

      You said it yourself, progression, meaning the later is better than the previous. People are talking about real money purchases, of course in the game we need tiers, but with real money it's pretty simple - much better for around 12% more, the older one is now obsolete.

    • @lolsalad52
      @lolsalad52 Месяц назад +2

      Legit the only reason its bad is the store 😂

  • @phantomx2003
    @phantomx2003 Месяц назад +3

    Would be nice to have the command module have a tractor beam with the ability to detach and load the ship. The Cat already has a blind spot when using the beam to load so why not.

  • @MartinB034
    @MartinB034 Месяц назад +3

    There is one thing I caught from that mining mission bit, and it is the option to buy commodities from another player. I think that's a really big deal if they finally put in game a way for cargo
    ''ownership'' to be transferred from one player to another without being in a group. I believe that would be the start of some for of emergent economy,

  • @filiphaglund
    @filiphaglund Месяц назад +5

    yes, modules for the F7C would've been the better way to go, so people had to choose the purpose for cheaper UEC ingame (at later stages).

  • @I3ladefist
    @I3ladefist Месяц назад +3

    it looks like the detachable control unit will be detach-ready in another 5-6 years, because why not.
    "when they do make the ship, it's gonna work Probably" - this statement is valid to everything that cig touches.
    As always those gantries provide excellent protection against intruders, bcs as we all know, snipers tend to shoot the rails mostly.

  • @Funkiyy
    @Funkiyy Месяц назад +9

    Update the Legacy ships first!

    • @andreww2925
      @andreww2925 Месяц назад

      But they dont make money fixing old ships...but seriously they need to flesh out the current list of ships that have been in concept for years and years and get this game to a more polished state...will this happen? No. Because money, but it sure sounds like it would be nice.

    • @Nimoodles
      @Nimoodles Месяц назад +1

      As an artist myself who creates 3d assets, I get where they're coming from. It's SIGNIFICANTLY easier to take small, prepare pieces to create a larger model, than it is to take parts of a larger model and cut them up to fit a smaller model. Them working on smaller ships, to work on bigger ships, makes complete sense from a pipeline perspective.
      You can blame CIG marketing for wanting to constantly push sales for large ships. They earn a lot of money.

    • @Funkiyy
      @Funkiyy Месяц назад

      @Nimoodles I feel this game is going to be so saturated with ships that just don't make sense. Everything bigger everything with bigger guns more guns. Pretty soon they willnjust make a ship that looks just like a gun

    • @andreww2925
      @andreww2925 Месяц назад

      @Nimoodles doesn't that just give incentive to never release the game. If all it is is new ships that cost more and more money, as a business, it makes sense to be in a perpetual development state.

    • @Nimoodles
      @Nimoodles Месяц назад

      @@andreww2925 From a cynic's standpoint, yes. You could argue that because whales offer so much money for large ships, that they could just perpetually cycle through ship sales because people pay for them.
      That's not the case, though. Not only are they legally liable for a released product, but to suggest that they're not interested or invested in finishing the project would imply that the studio's entire existence is to simply be a front that.. loses CR money? That doesn't really track. We have their financials, right? We know they barely break even every year. They've also had to ask for investor support twice over the course of development, pumping millions of dollars in to the company.
      They also wouldn't be as transparent about their development if it were all a ploy. CIG is easily one of the most transparent developers in the world, followed closely by Intrepid Studios.
      CIG feels like they're running in place a lot, because a lot of the technology that is required for the game isn't something shiny you can look at. Ships are, so people use ships as a measuring tool for progress. It's a rather terrible tool. The ship team is somewhere between 40-50 people, out of a company of 800 employees. They're obviously doing SOMETHING.
      The only thing Star Citizen and CIG is guilty of, is being grossly mismanaged.

  • @jstevens005
    @jstevens005 Месяц назад +2

    I 100% agree with you on the power creep in general and how awesome the ironclad looks but I think the M2 will still have its place solely for the fact that the iron clad has zero pilot controlled weapons.
    As a pure cargo ship it's hands down 1000% better or if you have 3-4 friends with you to crew the iron clad it's gains the edge again but if you are solo or with just 1-2 friends I think the M2 is still valid.

  • @tlove21
    @tlove21 Месяц назад +2

    Week in Review is one of the only SC shows I watch religiously on RUclips these days.

  • @JFrombaugh
    @JFrombaugh Месяц назад +2

    I’m anxiously awaiting that Road to 1.0 roadmap that Chris teased in the last letter so we finally know exactly what features he deems necessary to get at least some semblance of a space MMO across the line, and which stuff we’ll just have to keep waiting many more years for.
    One of my concerns all along has been that it’ll mostly just be server meshing, resource management, some T0 crafting system, & Pyro, Nyx, and a couple more star systems - and a lot of the career stuff (like Bounty Hunter v2) is actually going to be post 1.0.

  • @dallashardy4758
    @dallashardy4758 Месяц назад +1

    I think the caterpillar wouldve been a no brainer to show off modularity instead of a super low scu count cargo box for the retaliator

    • @koffieslikkersenior
      @koffieslikkersenior Месяц назад

      Especially seeing how it was announced with modularity from the start

  • @MaybeAnnatar
    @MaybeAnnatar Месяц назад +10

    Week in Review has constantly become a huge highlight of my week every week. I look forward to it every monday.

  • @NormFC
    @NormFC Месяц назад +3

    i think they need to go back to putting more upgrade PATHS on starter ships. Idk why they did the gladius first, Im sure its because its heavily used in SQ42. But ships like the mustang, aurora and even iconic ships like the F7, could be the TRUE gold standards by allowing upgrade paths like the ones previewed in the Aurora video that was created forever ago. Because a lot of these gold standard ships dont encompass the modularity and how players can swap out big systems in their ships.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi Месяц назад

    15:18 that's the point: they can save their own game (which is a mess) by refining how each ship can be exploited.
    I bought, in game, a Hull A and I found it interesting to salvage wrecks cargo in space, compared to enclosed ships.
    Having valuable ground vehicles that can "actually" make money (a ROC that can make a real "time for credit" profit) could give the C2 and especially the M2 and the Nomad a meaning.
    The Nomad especially being hit heavily by cargo refractor as it's 4x3 cargo grid limit box storing combination massively, compared to the Hull A. The Raft is another notable example.
    We need some direction in the game development, with think forward, rather then react to issue attitude.
    Powercreep can be avoided easily if you give and take from each ship by giving them peculiarities that are actually useful.

  • @juschu85
    @juschu85 Месяц назад

    You know what would be really cool for the command module of the Ironclad and Caterpillar? If you could set a route to another planet and then just send the big portion of the ship into quantum to its destination and it just goes there by auto pilot. When it arrives, someone in your party gets a marker for it and can pick it up with another command module. Of course that means you would have to be able to buy individual command modules.

  • @andrewfleming4027
    @andrewfleming4027 Месяц назад +2

    Mike’s really good at his job.

  • @icedanilzation
    @icedanilzation Месяц назад +1

    On the MKI, maybe I don't full grasp what they are doing. But if its anything like cars in real life, retiring a ship line, makes it rarer, which means, when SC does release, MKI's could become hard to find, and finding a derelict MKI in the middle of nowhere would be like finding a rust bucket Millennium Falcon somewhere; and that's cool concept. I can foresee other ship lines also retiring, as they bring in say the Centipede line, and retire the caterpillar for example.

  • @eric.c.bullock
    @eric.c.bullock Месяц назад +1

    Ironclad is a future Prison Ship. For either capture and imprison, or bulk imprisonment for a fleet

    • @Syphirioth
      @Syphirioth Месяц назад

      Make those Hulls obsolete bro. Just take cargo and drop it into the bay.

  • @mrbaglog
    @mrbaglog Месяц назад +1

    You forgot the part where Jared absolutely destroyed a troll in the twitch chat.

  • @GunShocka
    @GunShocka Месяц назад

    Cargo update will make smaller ships more viable. The issue isnt that the smaller ships dont hold as much SCU, but that we have to store our cargo on our ships making selling them a necessity immediately to go get more cargo. If we can store cargo over time im hangars you can make runs of varying risks by choosing and selecting when, where,how,and what you are selling.
    That way you get that "making a run" type of deal from a base that you would get out of stuff like DayZ to go sell tons of guns you have collected to a trader.

  • @StormEagle5
    @StormEagle5 Месяц назад

    2:03 that was a clean edit

  • @the5starx
    @the5starx Месяц назад

    Crazy to skip over the torpedo loading bay on the Polaris. It was so sick!

  • @angelarch5352
    @angelarch5352 Месяц назад +3

    16:35 so what ship will CIG draw a picture of and sell for more money next year, that will then help them to make the Ironclad, which will help them make the Kraken? And then the year after that, another ship to help make that ship to make the ship to make the other ships--... They only sell the jpgs, they don't actually start to make them.

    • @Syphirioth
      @Syphirioth Месяц назад

      Some of those realy not JPGs anymore. But ye they do talk a bit to much in comparison with what we actually get. But there is progress.

    • @llawlied6902
      @llawlied6902 Месяц назад

      I mean they found a cheat code to print money with JPEGs what company wouldn't use that too

  • @suddendeath6959
    @suddendeath6959 Месяц назад +2

    The Anvil Crucible can deattach its cargo module and has better repair facility from small to capital size.

    • @Syphirioth
      @Syphirioth Месяц назад

      Yes cause it heavy repair ship. Not a cargo/transport one.

  • @Farlayy
    @Farlayy Месяц назад +1

    I saw someone say it would be cool for the ironclads command module to be something you can fly down to planet to pick stuff up so you don’t need to take the entire ship down to a planet. I think they should go down that route instead. Especially if they want people to use these features.

  • @brentgath4447
    @brentgath4447 Месяц назад

    Nice job on the video, Mike. Can’t be easy working alone on all this. Thanks for being my go-to outlet for all things Star Citizen.

  • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
    @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 Месяц назад +2

    Wipe the Dupers clean!!

  • @traxendregames7880
    @traxendregames7880 Месяц назад

    Again a very good video, love the energy you put in your show and all your videos ! Will love to see evo cargo with you!

  • @SternLX
    @SternLX Месяц назад

    At the time of this comment it is Week 22 of 2024. We are nearly half way through this year and we have yet to have any updates to the Progress Tracker. You know, the thing that lets us know what's in Active Development? Jared wouldn't have to keep repeating himself if the Progress Tracker was actually being used. Instead, all we get week after week after week is "It's coming, we're working on it." Which leaves the backers out here thinking "Wow, y'all suck at planning."

  • @thewordywizard4389
    @thewordywizard4389 Месяц назад

    Great review thanks.
    Just a thought on the hornet drama, this could be a long term strategy. When they release 1.0 they can't remove ships, they have been developed etc they are in the game but they still want to sell new ships in IRL. Modularity is actually counter productive to this so I don't expect to see it become the norm.
    This strategy of retiring ships for new also gives 3 markets in-game, new, used and classic

  • @caractacuspotts680
    @caractacuspotts680 Месяц назад

    in the small fishbowl, we all swim around and now we don’t think about fuel, efficiency range and operational costs as it relates to cargo hauling. But we will in the future, and a ship like the ironclad will never be able to compete with a hull series or any other efficient ship. if you truly doing cargo hauling, you’ll eat up all your profits.

  • @ferg40
    @ferg40 Месяц назад

    Great week in review. I watch them all and this one was the best I can remember.

  • @rupert456
    @rupert456 Месяц назад

    100% agree with the Ironclad. If the Assault doesn't have the retractable roof and tractor beams, it's a deal breaker for me.
    Then melt that CCU.
    Thanks for the good work, Mike!

  • @chrismcdonald5775
    @chrismcdonald5775 Месяц назад

    This is the 3rd of 4th time I've heard someone mention there being only one Ballistic Repeater without saying what it's called. It's the Sawbuck for anyone wondering.

  • @mracicot
    @mracicot Месяц назад

    @19:33 This game continues to impress as it becomes more like a simulator than just a mere game. Adding in ammunition containers such as you would expect on a capital ship is simply logical. Warships have almost always sailed (in wet navies) with some amount of internal resupply - never just a single load for their weaponry. Capitals, if not nearly all ships, should have some amount of reloads available. The notable exception is fighters, and then I'd say the shape of this game's heavy fighters could allow them to carry a few extra rounds. Medium and light fighters, however...nope. They rely on their motherships for resupply; that's totally reasonable and in an extended combat engagement, it makes sense for them to go out, pound the enemy, and go back for more bullets; rinse and repeat.
    Now, do the ammo boxes explode if the magazine (ammo storage locker) gets hit? There should be a chance of secondary explosions...

  • @samisuhonen9815
    @samisuhonen9815 Месяц назад

    I think in terms of powercreep and the ironclad vs crusader's offerings, they should make it so that the crusader is just WAY faster in both cruise mode, combat flying mode, and in quantum travel. It should also be more fuel efficient.
    Crusader ships are the peak of material and engineering quality. Thus, the advanced composites of the C series ships, should make them nearly as durable (especially against energy based weapons), while remaining way lighter.
    The drake ironclad should be a tiny bit more armored due to the raw amount of armor steel covering it, but slow and sluggish as a brick, while also eating a lot of fuel to feed those mediocre quality engines pushing around that chunk of steel.
    So, for regular cargo, an ironclad should be a tiny bit more protected. But it would be way slower. For profit generation, time is important. If the crusader cargo ship can make 3 trips where the ironclad can make 2, the ironclad needs to have 50% more cargo space to make up for it.
    But not only that, some cargo and delivery missions might be time critical.
    For military transport, speed is important. If your org needs reinforcement tanks to a fight at Pyro, but they are stored in Stanton. A crusader ship might get there a lot faster just by traveling so much quicker in both quantum and when approaching the planet/moon.
    For smuggling, the crusader cargo fleet once again should have the advantage, with higher tech sensors, lower signature materials, and obviously by being fast, they could more easily outrun and outmaneuver patrols.

  • @RN1441
    @RN1441 Месяц назад

    @15:30 You've correctly identified that they're "kiting" ship development in using new ship picture sales to pay for backlog development. When people do it with cheques it's considered illegal. Back in the early days the narrative was that they were 'building pipelines' that would cause content (ships, star systems, missions, and so forth) to all come rolling off the assembly line once the pipelines were ready. A decade later we can see that their lack of planning has prevented the pipelines from coming online even today. This shows up later in your video @17:00 when Jared is talking about why Bounty Hunting V2 is supposedly on hold: Because they figured out that it has prerequisites like RESTRAINTS and TRACKING. It's grotesquely irresponsible that they didn't map this out back in say 2013 and is somehow surprising them in 2024. Things like this really drive home how expensive it is getting to not have a plan and just sort of 'work on what looks cool' in the hopes that it will turn in to a game some day. To the people still buying ships: Keep it up, they need about a quarter million USD a DAY (do the math) to fund the studios. Should be done within a decade or two at this rate.

  • @Cysmoke
    @Cysmoke Месяц назад

    I love that they make these ships better and better.
    All ships now are basically OG and will be put in Orison museums over the next decade.

  • @citizen_cheeseman
    @citizen_cheeseman Месяц назад

    Cheers Mike, I always look forward to this every week.

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh Месяц назад

    A packed WiR, and nicely done. Here's hoping you figure out bringing the most potential out of RUclips.

  • @idn
    @idn Месяц назад +1

    The Kraken comments really rubbed me the wrong way. Why wouldn't they just say, the Ironclad and Kraken are complementing each other, but the Ironclad will come first." Or anything more positive?
    Given that they said the Ironclad is "enabling" the Kraken, I think they will have the Ironclad out within a year and the Kraken out by 1.0.
    Also, the C2 will be much more maneuverable than the Ironclad in atmosphere, so I don't consider the C2 dead at all. I did converted my M2 into an Ironclad Mil though.

  • @sharxbyte
    @sharxbyte Месяц назад +1

    Really pissed about the price change and the lack of communication

  • @TheJudgeo7
    @TheJudgeo7 Месяц назад

    Hey Mike, quick feedback on you wanting to do more YT videos: yes, please do! In all honesty I find your YT content much more enjoyable than the the streams, the quality / “enjoyability” really improves when you have the time to think things through (even if I am still addicted to your react videos, sometimes your negative excitement is difficult to cope with). Keep up this YT content coming!

  • @matt_vince
    @matt_vince Месяц назад

    Top Job, high quality video. Appreciate your work

  • @jonlorber5911
    @jonlorber5911 Месяц назад

    The ambition is just too great. I often wonder whether or not I would still be alive when this game is finally done.

  • @sidrat2009
    @sidrat2009 Месяц назад

    The Merchantman is supposed to be 160 meters long vs 120 meters for the Ironclad - Heavy Freight vs Armoured Freight. - 6 vs 8 max crew - Either way bring an escort if cargo piracy is going to be worth doing other than the fun sake of doing it.

  • @UNiTEDDKSilent21
    @UNiTEDDKSilent21 Месяц назад

    With the cargo update they absolutely better fix the hull C spawning inside the stations

  • @alexanderdooley5833
    @alexanderdooley5833 Месяц назад

    best show you put on the channels. really love that you do this.

  • @AnymMusic
    @AnymMusic Месяц назад +5

    6:10 just sounds like normal every day communication incompetency within the company that we've come to know

  • @seiken5055
    @seiken5055 Месяц назад

    love the dev updates!! nice addition!

  • @shakes525
    @shakes525 Месяц назад +1

    Seems likely to me they'll start churning out MK2 variants with hopes the MK1 people will pay for the upgrades. As a Drake guy I like the Ironclad, but that line about getting the command module working with the Ironclad and subsequently the Caterpillar feels like they are sticking their hand out yet again to get things promised and paid before previously funded again (You DID point out the Kraken bait 👍). The Tali update seems to me to be from lack of expected sales, when was the last time they announced an upgrade to an old ship mid-show? They just get bolder with it every year 😞

  • @onerosarmakat4456
    @onerosarmakat4456 Месяц назад +1

    Let's hope the Ironclad Flies sooner than later, but there are still so many fat ships floating in the backlog.

  • @HawkHPG
    @HawkHPG Месяц назад

    If we could in-game melt our in-game bought ships to upgrade in-game, then that would be amazing for progression and not make other cargo ships obsolete.

  • @chrishoppner150
    @chrishoppner150 Месяц назад

    I'm glad that with the Ironclad they seem to actually be acknowledging that in the Mad Max universe they're building, your cargo needs defence. There is no "safe space", and there probably never will be. High sec will just be Ganker City. So put some armor and big guns on your cargo. You're gonna need it.
    Of course they laid it on pretty thick that this is basically designed to quickly loot after a gank, further driving the point home.
    22:00 They're just incapable of talking about any content for the game without the mandatory "and then maybe you get pirated". I suppose in this case it's "and then maybe you pirate someone", but it's really the same thing.

  • @kwarkon1
    @kwarkon1 Месяц назад +2

    I do wonder why no one is speaking about tali torp modules and hornets being removed from aEUC availability. In case of retaliator it is confusing that torpedos are again in exclusivity period. In case of hornets, mk2 is still not available for aEUC so it is also moving hornet series to $ exclusivity.

    • @SaltEMike
      @SaltEMike  Месяц назад +1

      Because if you bought the base you have the base…what is there to complain about, they gave you an torp module you never paid for for years…

    • @kwarkon1
      @kwarkon1 Месяц назад

      ​@@SaltEMike I bought bomber in the game, not the base. The thing I dislike is the fact that bomber got paywalled for the SECOND time, and same could happen to other modular ships like 600i

  • @jax2729
    @jax2729 Месяц назад

    So the Hercules class handles very well and has great power. The Drake ships are very slow and tanky, these ships are in their own class. The only thing the ship offers is more cargo and easier cargo feeling from space but not the ground like the Hercules class which has two entrances. Now I love this ship and I got the assault as I’m a Drake guy, I have kraken, Corsair, buc & now ironclad assault. Excited for when this ship releases!

  • @korinshadowgale
    @korinshadowgale Месяц назад

    Really excited to see the cargo missions and really see how the cargo progression goes on that lane of mission giving.

  • @mrdashin8323
    @mrdashin8323 Месяц назад

    But versions of the ironclad represent player game play. Imagine having the ironclad with a vulture on the cargo area. Cruise around salvage and store the scrap in the ironclad. You can stay out longer and make more credits.

  • @bartgelin
    @bartgelin Месяц назад

    The Ironclad looks a little small to me, if you compare it to an actual cargo ship in reality. They are gargantuan and hold probably 100x or more. In space I'd expect bigger. Looks cool though :)

  • @jamesxff
    @jamesxff Месяц назад

    Good video, thanks for the updates

  • @IcyAmphibian
    @IcyAmphibian Месяц назад

    I bought some paints last night and a starter pack as a gift. There is nothing wrong with continuously supporting SC. These are the people making the game you love, and it takes money.

    • @SaltEMike
      @SaltEMike  Месяц назад

      Did I say there was anything wrong with that? Fucking hell man you guys make up your own reality…

  • @IceyJones
    @IceyJones Месяц назад +6

    cig....masters in keeping up hope in exchange for cash

  • @psychokevv
    @psychokevv Месяц назад

    not doubling firebirds stealth, I believe its doubling the % noise reduction modifier (20-40)

  • @Masterhow101
    @Masterhow101 Месяц назад

    Intro song is Fugent - Lupus Nocte

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike Месяц назад

    18:39 The problem is people upvote umrelated questions basically every episide, and if they gave the status of every single thing folks upvoted, we'd be wasting time better spent on shit they have more meaningful answers for.
    Some folks basically want a daily report about their favorite thing that's not on the Roadmap, but we only get an hour a week, so... 🤷🏿‍♂️
    A better solution would be to add dependingies and blockers to the Progress Tracker when it returns.

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike Месяц назад

    The ship talk basically ends at 17:03, in case you too are bored of ship talk. :T

  • @Drysso
    @Drysso Месяц назад

    Ironclad assault. Finally another ship to haul ground vehicles!

  • @Adam-082
    @Adam-082 Месяц назад +1

    Uhg another wipe would suck I spent so much freaking time just getting from the starter ship I have to getting my connie doing so many bunker missions. I under stand that its something that has to happen but I don't have the cash to just buy a ship like that so it sucks when they wipe cause I am stuck with my dinky starting ship :*D

  • @HeloHounds
    @HeloHounds Месяц назад

    Didn't they have the 3-D Exterior model for the Kraken done like right at the time of the original concept sale? I mean, they had it in game outside of some landing zone on some planet, right? Can't remember the planet it was on.

  • @eCoLL77
    @eCoLL77 Месяц назад +1

    hi Mike, great video!

  • @justsaiyen596
    @justsaiyen596 Месяц назад

    i like your take on the mk1 thing

  • @-CrimsonReD-
    @-CrimsonReD- Месяц назад

    DEFINITELY their turn!

  • @thomasinlondon2849
    @thomasinlondon2849 Месяц назад

    Refinery sections for the Caterpillar

  • @SPAMMAN123456789
    @SPAMMAN123456789 Месяц назад

    I think a lot of the worry of power creep just lends itself to progression with tiers of ships. Course that is a balancing act, and we have no proof how well CIG will do that. Especially without the context of the economy behind it.
    But I mean that's always a thing in space, Sims. You work doing the jobs you want to get credits and reputation to get bigger, better ships.

  • @bobklk51
    @bobklk51 Месяц назад +1

    I never liked the C-2. I got a Ironclad upgrade in my pocket. 😎

  • @blodrush25
    @blodrush25 Месяц назад +1

    we need a ingame marked like eve online
    i am cool with a Wipe too it need to happen now

  • @TONOCLAY
    @TONOCLAY Месяц назад

    I sway wipe where they take off the top up to 10mil. If you have more than 10mil it drops to 10mil if you have less it doesnt affect you. Legit players are unlikely to have that much unless they just camped salvage missions since release.

  • @DiscoBiki
    @DiscoBiki Месяц назад

    Ships need more windows moving forward. Way more exciting for the crew to be able to see what's happening outside

  • @commanderroddi7742
    @commanderroddi7742 Месяц назад

    I LOVE the FATAPILLAR!!!
    Hopefully it won't take as long as the poor Polaris is taking, but sounds as that may be coming soon to a torpedo death near you! :) I see this ship for both very usefull uses (I woulnd't go with a Hull C into Pyro, for instance, but an escorted Ironclad, Yeah, sure. Will defend itself better than a Skinnypillar, I mean, Caterpillar :) Love the look of it, and this may be one of my main ships in the future. If the economy works as they claim (still waiting, no longer taking their words until its on game), then we will need to have ships capable of carrying cargo from larger MISC Hull series (C, D, & E) down onto planet surface ports (Loreville, New Babbage, Area18, etc). Eitherway, Got one with my other industrial ships (REclaimer, Starfarer (which also needs a HUGE passover), Crucible, and Orion.... can you guess what my focus is?). I do like the design, and hope it looks like it, and that it is closer to being done than other ship.
    One thing I noticed is what they said of the pilot/command module/detatchable module. WHen the Cat came out, there were all like, "you're goign to be able to park your cargo, fly around the system with the command module, and have it be as a parasite ship giving additional mobility". With this ship, they pretty much said "its an escape module" and "you only want to use it in emergency"
    as for the competitor, its more of a Liberator competitor (the Assault at least). Cargo wise, there is NOTHING like it. Its not a Hull, Its not a C2.
    and the Kraken comment is a bit annoying, Jared... THing is, ship is not that expensive. Look at the price for a Liberator that can not take as much cargo, and looses the cargo ifyou put tanks on there, and it can only carry 3 to 4? (people say you could fit 5 tanks on the Fatapillar when you use the repair area). Yeah, I hope it comes out within the year, doubt it, but I can dream, then have my dreams shattered by CIG. :)
    HOrnet MkI is a ship that is fond to me. But, the MkII is much better, however, the price difference is pretty...Salty (pardonthe pun). I do like the better firepower and survivability of the MkII. Personally, I think owners of MkI will have an ability to upgrade for a descent amount, but I'm debating between picking up a Hornet (I think this is more of the "brawler" medium fighter that they claime a Hornet should be, but the Firebid is temping 90% on looks and the 6 missile salvo... Not sure its a better fighter, but I want one? and I can't have both. As for All these ships, Its all store credit. Spent plenty of money already, and I do get they need money to keep going, but not goign to spend cash on concept ships (Galaxy is another ship I have that I'm waiting on that I am waiting for) BUt the ifrebird, Yeah, its a big risk that ship. WHen missiles work, ship will SLAP. The rest of the time, Two ballistics or laser S3 hardpoints, Not sure. Seeps it may be a bit more maneuverable and MUCH faster than regular sabre, and that is why I am choosing it, and it suposed to be stealth, which is a mechanic NOT in game, but one that I am very much looking forward to, being able to sneak up to a target, Lob 6 Missiles and have the speed to run away if needed. This is not a one-on-one PVP ship (though under the right pilot, many ships like an M50 or Archamedes can be) but its a ship to support a bunch of buddies on other ships like HOrnets, or other Sabres. Sad the Regular Sabre has been nerfed, Hoping it will get some of its glory if it gets a gold pass. Maybe, make it look more like a Firebird shape? Nah, they won't Sabre looks cool asw it is. and Raven is suposed to be special. May get a Firebird, but may eventuall melt it and get a Hornet Mk II. I woul totally get a Superhornet MkII (which could have the opportunity to be a Scorpious like ship where you coudl give it a nice Turret?
    SOrry, big post, LOTS of opinions.

  • @fearstare
    @fearstare Месяц назад

    I get you yea, you're right dude, i was critical as a new player now when i see the marketing around ships for the first time myself. This is the alpha that i spend the most money on. With no game and people still buying this much ships i wonder will they ever move on from this model. They are just making too much money as it is.

  • @sekmeup711
    @sekmeup711 Месяц назад

    From Excited to Bugcited

  • @Libertas_P77
    @Libertas_P77 Месяц назад +1

    I’d be fine with wiping the entire player base to 500k UEC or maybe 1m UEC as part of the duplicate exploit. I’ve played a bit and am on about 1.5m without cheating on anything, so don’t mind a hit.

    • @club2772
      @club2772 Месяц назад

      That’s pretty realistic. I don’t imagine they want to spend a ton of resources on this. Anything beyond just shows more respect for the players’ time.

  • @minntal8536
    @minntal8536 Месяц назад

    I am TOTALLY against between patch wipes! I’m so tired of getting things ready and done for a wipe , then I get hit again 1 week later by a .1 then again 2 weeks later by a .2 and so on. I’m also ok with COMPLETE wipes quarterly though

  • @benlee8225
    @benlee8225 Месяц назад

    the minding missions least the open source ones sound like the elite ones we want 100 tons of iron or said commoditity doesnt matter where it was gained obtained just get it here. and if it can be bought then it would have the current value of how much it would cost the buy it so can choose to buy it and get less reward. OR mine it all and get the full value of the mission.

  • @Christine-shield
    @Christine-shield Месяц назад +4

    C2 is not dead. Its a 1-2 person ship vs Iron which is 4-6; engineering will really impact multi crew making C2 easy

    • @captain-hooked
      @captain-hooked Месяц назад +1

      The C2 is also a large ship which will require engineering effort. It may be usable with 1 person when using roll-on/roll-off cargo, but loading containers into it by hand without a ship tractor is going to be harder. It might be that the Ironclad can load 1500 SCU quicker than the C2 with two people.

    • @Christine-shield
      @Christine-shield Месяц назад +2

      @@captain-hooked has anyone tried loading cargo using the tractor beams? we have. in the Cat, in the C1, in the Taurus. a 2 person crew can load and unload cargo 5x better /faster and more reliably than people on tractor beams. esp when you stuff above snap, which everyone does. until they make the tractor loading actually work, Ill take my friends and the rifle tractor beam

    • @Syphirioth
      @Syphirioth Месяц назад

      @@Christine-shield I loved it in the taurus. Just hop seat and thats it. Just need get used to it.

  • @shd_samurai9676
    @shd_samurai9676 Месяц назад

    'i've done my part, it's their turn now'
    Extremely fucking based take. Let's go.

  • @supasneaks
    @supasneaks Месяц назад

    I genuinely am pumped for the Ironclad.
    I really am a sucker for space ships concept or otherwise. Luckily I don't have the money to capitalize on these impulses