I looked at both and the Kona just didn't have the cargo space or rear seat legroom for my needs and Ioniq was $10k less(AUD) approx. Very happy with my 2019 Ioniq.
We went for the Ionic hybrid premium SE primarily due to it's price, availability, equipment and range. We have had the car just over twelve months having waited three months for delivery. True 60 m.p.g. mainly urban use with 2 occupants. Very comfortable, relaxing to drive and a variety of passengers have been impressed by the silence and ride comfort. Foot parking brake optimises hands on steering wheel. Motorway economy with cruise at 70 m.p.h.and lane keep assist 70 m.p.g. We are considering the E.V. next but would like it with a longer range battery. Would need to test drive the Kona E.V. but until then the jury is out.
My Ioniq has ventilated front seats, electronic hand brake, and the LKAS system in conjunction with the adaptive cruise control allows lane keeping and lane following. Driving it the other day I did think a HUD would have been useful as it is so easy to take your eye of the instrument panel, and even easier to exceed the speed limit. It is alarming how quickly the car accelerates to 40mph. By my reckoning it hits 30 in around 2 seconds, and 40 in well under 4. I wonder if the Kona is going to be any quicker than that because although it will be able to maintain a better acceleration curve due to the larger batteries, there may be virtually no difference in acceleration up to say 40mph. The Ioniq starts to slow its rate of acceleration at around 50, but 90% of the time it's a real pocket rocket. I imagine the Kona will be much the same, although considerably quicker from 50-60, and beyond. I am always amazed at how rattle & squeak free the car is, so lets hope they do as good a job at soundproofing and screwing together the Kona.
I think its daft having a foot brake in the Ioniq Hybrid, and its one of the main reasons I sold my old Prius. Something we can thank America for, along with Halloween trick or treating, and Black Friday Sales!!
The Ioniq 28 is definitely quicker than 9.9 seconds. I'm getting slightly over 8 consistently. Also, the Ioniq uses 10 to 20% less electricity. You can add that to the range. Cargo space is also more than reported here. The Ioniq fits more all around. The Kona is inefficient, space wise, as heck. For a used car, if you want to go frugal, the Ioniq is a much better option, so long as you can deal with the range. That is its main weakness.
The big difference is just how aerodynamic the Ioniq is, I love mine. There is no foot footbrake on the EV its electronic and it does have pedestrian reignition. Perhaps best to talk to an owner before you do reviews
Have the Ioniq with ventilated seats, maybe this is not available in the UK? Anyways, great car and so happy we bought it. Range is not really an issue, drove 3000+ km this summer, no problems using quick-charger. The quick charge is actually really quick, mostly stopped 15-20 minutes before continuing driving at 80-95% range so no worries at all. For "home" driving we never charge more than once a week. Also tested the Kona, and the back seat room + cargo is SO small it was just out of the question. The Ioniq feels so spacious compared to the Kona and should definitely be considered when purchasing. Adults with long legs have plenty of space in the Ioniq, but really would struggle in the Kona.
Morten, agree with on rear space compared to Ioniq. It's perfect for us, we don't need adult space in the back. Ioniq is an awesome car just needs extra 15kwh in the battery to be perfect
Got the Hyundai hybrid Premium SE model recently. (2018 -UK) Loving it. Easily the best car I have ever had. Early days but averaging 62 mpg although I did have it in the sport mode a few times which makes it feel a different car again. Have to get used to a silent car on start up. Looks stunning in the platinum silver finish and much better looking than the Prius. Dual clutch automatic super smooth.
Hi bud keep up the good work and keep the Kona news coming. I live in St John's Newfoundland and EVs aren't really adopted here yet.Most Dealer service centres can't even service EVs yet and don't even promote EVs. It's hard to even buy a even here cause hardly any dealer has them. I've been following your videos and love watching them. Keep up the good work and keep us informed.
Thanks Richard it's great to hear the videos are well received. It is definitely surprising at how slow some are to the change to EVs. Nissan leafs are the only commonly seen EV around. Distracted with wedding plans at the moment but back to Kona focus again after next week
Yeah it's sad how slow progress is here on the EV front. The Nissan dealership here isn't a authorized leaf dealership so they don't have them. I can't even test drive one which sucks.But congratulations on you both have a wonderful wedding and looking forward to more videos take care.
Speaking as an Ioniq EV owner and a pretty tall one, I would definitely prefer an CUV/SUV. Efficiency is amazing on the Ioniq but the comfort is lacking (at least for a 6'5" person).
I have a 2017 Sonata 2.4 with GDI. I regularly acheave 40+ mpg on the highway. Driving a steady 65mph it gets 45mpg. I paid $17,100 for it brand new. Its been super reliable and I enjoy driving it on long trips. My point is... hybrids and EVs are awesome and probably the future but are the higher purchase prices worth the difference?
Did you buy a Kona yourself? You are very positive about the Kona :) I bought one too, so I don't mind, but be careful making conclusions towards an Ioniq since people might get stepped on their toes.
Possi, many thanks. Yes I'm pro the Kona as it suits ME well which I try to cover honestly. The Ioniq is great. I love it's interior and efficiency more than any other EV but not its looks, boot space and less engaging drive. When it gets a revision I think it'll be awesome
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Just hoping for the Ioniq drivers that Hyundai will somehow come up with a 64 kwh battery pack for the Ioniq altho I don't think it'll fit under the car. That car will have massive range if that happens. Hope you get your car soon, I have to wait 3,5 more weeks :)
I wonder how the grip of the tyres will go on the Kona, with the extra power and only front wheel drive. Will the electric power, which is instantaneous, just cause the front wheels to spin on a robust take off.
It's very subjective. Kona rides firmer and sportier. Ioniq is softer but Kona has better seats and is more comfortable on my mind. Depends how you define comfort. They're both very quiet. Ioniq tyres a little quieter but I hear Hyundai aren't using the louder Nexen tyres any more despite those tyres giving excellent tread life
Vastly different ride height. That's the biggest difference. Ioniq is very low. Boot is longer and lower. Kona is taller easier to get I and out of and boot is taller but shorter
Thanks mate, This one covered it... ruclips.net/video/S0YXIRR8530/видео.html I think officially it's about 285miles in good conditions and good driving, less in worse conditions and 300+ for better conditions or very economical driving
The EV Puzzle true. Thats interesting because i would have considered waiting for a 64kWh ioniq for the extra space. But the kona doesnt seem like that much of a smaller car.
Best to test them both. Back seats much bigger in Ioniq boot bigger but our dog has better space in the Kona. Kona better for taking junk to the tip, ioniq can't stand upright as much. It is odd
Not very specific info about the rear seat space. Kona seem like the best buy to me but I cant buy it since (I suspect) that the rear seat is to small for my teenage kids. Or is it not? This is quite disturbing since these cars are almost equally priced... How can this be?
Michael. I've covered that precisely in my videos. Ioniq is oddly priced cheaper yet is better trimmed. I guess it's the extra 3k or so for the battery , the HUD and a slight premium for a crossover. Seat space can seem cramped behind the driver if the seat is on the lowest settings and set right back. At 5ft 10 I had plenty of space. Go try it yourself in a petrol version and compare seat fully down versus raised slightly. If the driver is 6ft plus space will be teenager friendly but not 6ft adult friendly imo
Hello. Can I ask please, do you know if the top of the range Kona will have Lane Follow Assist and/or Lane Keep Assist? Thanks. I enjoy reading about your journey. I am thinking of upgrading to a longer range EV from my 30kWh Leaf. The Kona is top of the list so far.
Actually UK spec Hyundai just sent me says Premium and Premium SE get LFA. They really mix the specs up in different countries it seems. No part leather on Premium so it seems too.
Ah thanks Nigel. Do you know if there is there anywhere on the internet I can get hold of that list please? It's just that I saw a video where the Kona was bouncing from line to line with the LKA and I wondered why they didn't use LFA. The 3 things I like that the Leaf has and the Kona doesn't is: bringing the car to a halt by lifting the accelerator pedal, all around cameras and their LFA works great. Maybe it is now just two.
In your video from the 30th of June you say, that Kona premium SE 64kw costs 31.795 GBP. And now you say its 36.295 GBP. It is soo confusing! What is the actual price difference between top-spec Leaf and Kona SE 64kw? Can't choose between these two. In Andorra Leaf Tekna is about 7k cheaper that Kona SE, which is a bit too much, isn't it?
I like this Hyundai Kona EV, and I don't even like Tesla Model 3 awd that I test drove with its awful regenerative brakes. Although I like Nexo's dashboard way better than the Kona, it looks like a Mercedes E400 series two 12 inch screens; love the Nexo's center console. And I'm an owner of a 2017 Corvette with stickshift. And I NEVER thought highly of Hyundai/Kia nor would even ever consider owning one because of its 1980s poor reliability, safety, and poor people stigma.
LFA works from 0 mph so better for queue following and more focus on centre of the lane. No further details yet as new tech. Just another step towards autonomous driving but not quite there
You forgot something very important. The range. I believe the Kona had a way better range. Besides if you buy the app, you can turn off the PowerDirector watermark.
Thanks Nigel, an interesting comparison. The Kona has an impressive spec. but unimpressive price. The power is good, torque is huge. I like the look of the Ionic, it feels lovely to drive , the dash graphics are superb and it's very efficient, especially at motorway speeds (low drag coefficient). Unfortunately for me, getting in and out of the Ionic is painfull, it's very low with a low roof line too. The Kona I found easy to enter/exit. It looks funky/interesting to me. I can't quite workout the manufacturers thinking at the moment, are the low unit numbers because they just don't have the capacity or are they just testing the waters, gauging consumers wants before deciding on final specs/options/prices prior to comitting to full production levels? Congrats on your wedding plans, have a happy and contented future, also have fun racing your Kona versus the Mr's Cooper S, I think you might just win!
I think the low production runs, are a mix of not enough batteries initially ordered; and the U.S. market. If a manufacturer makes a certain number of a particular model, (regardless of whether it is sold in America) they lose out on import quotas of other ICE models. A token selection of pure electric, hybrids, etc. imported to the U.S., allows for a great import of other models. Hyundai might make great EVs but they're not about to shoot themselves on the foot, by promoting electric over ICE. As early adopters and wannabes, we are looking to the best available EV for the price. And hoping for better at a hopeful price tag. The manufacturer, is looking for profit, wherever that my be. To you and me they make cars. But the Hyundai group make cars, trucks, construction plant, ships and more. EVs are a very small part of their business.
I agree with your comments except to say that, in the not too distant future a good EV, at a good price, is potentionally a big earner, even for Hyundai.
Have you actually had a chance to drive the Ioniq Electric yet or just the Hybrid? I don't think either of the Hybrids are as "Dynamic" a drive as the electric.
A nearly new electric premium SE in metallic marina blue, with electric driver seat, without that I would have found it nearly impossible for me to enter/exit as I cannot bend my neck very much, it has a very low seat and a low roofline. There is a quality feel about the cabin. Not as fast as the 40kWh Nissan Leaf but good enough. Pin sharp graphics on the screens but a small boot space. Dealer would not allow an extended unattended test drive, I told him that would put me off buying it with no response from him. I went to see the Kona but they had no electric models yet and could not tell me when to expect them, waiting for a call when the Kona EV arrives to test drive. I was not impressed with the dealers atttitude, a sort of take it or leave it stance, may well leave it.
The EV Puzzle MMM interning because I see a radiator and coolant under my hood and I bought the car because the difference between it and the leaf is that it has an active cooling system.
The EV Puzzle on the contrary. Here I was quietly thinking to myself that you was a very professional retiree trying his darned best to educate a bunch of ignoramus RUclipsrs like myself to better ourselves.
It looks like a regular car, very nice interior. Saw electric and hybrid future cars. UGLY!!! Make a car a car, not a futuristic dream car. I cannot understand why engineers think it has to be that way
I looked at both and the Kona just didn't have the cargo space or rear seat legroom for my needs and Ioniq was $10k less(AUD) approx. Very happy with my 2019 Ioniq.
We went for the Ionic hybrid premium SE primarily due to it's price, availability, equipment and range. We have had the car just over twelve months having waited three months for delivery. True 60 m.p.g. mainly urban use with 2 occupants. Very comfortable, relaxing to drive and a variety of passengers have been impressed by the silence and ride comfort. Foot parking brake optimises hands on steering wheel. Motorway economy with cruise at 70 m.p.h.and lane keep assist 70 m.p.g. We are considering the E.V. next but would like it with a longer range battery. Would need to test drive the Kona E.V. but until then the jury is out.
I pass gas stations and laugh, you can't.
The Electric Ioniq has the electric hand break just like the Kona. Its the foot operated one on the hybrid version.
My mistake Brian
Its an easy mistake to make when you can only get the Hybrid to test.
I wish RUclips would let me amend videos but it's delete and replace only sadly. I'm human after all 😀
I was not criticising. Not meant to offend. Keep up the Good work.
Oh no Brian it's fine, it's all good but I would like to get it right so updating videos would be nice.
Exactly the information I needed 👍
Thank you so much for the video
My Ioniq has ventilated front seats, electronic hand brake, and the LKAS system in conjunction with the adaptive cruise control allows lane keeping and lane following. Driving it the other day I did think a HUD would have been useful as it is so easy to take your eye of the instrument panel, and even easier to exceed the speed limit. It is alarming how quickly the car accelerates to 40mph. By my reckoning it hits 30 in around 2 seconds, and 40 in well under 4. I wonder if the Kona is going to be any quicker than that because although it will be able to maintain a better acceleration curve due to the larger batteries, there may be virtually no difference in acceleration up to say 40mph. The Ioniq starts to slow its rate of acceleration at around 50, but 90% of the time it's a real pocket rocket. I imagine the Kona will be much the same, although considerably quicker from 50-60, and beyond.
I am always amazed at how rattle & squeak free the car is, so lets hope they do as good a job at soundproofing and screwing together the Kona.
Aren't I useless... I've compared to the hybrid... Wrongly!
I think its daft having a foot brake in the Ioniq Hybrid, and its one of the main reasons I sold my old Prius. Something we can thank America for, along with Halloween trick or treating, and Black Friday Sales!!
It accelerates faster than my Camry. I love the low center of gravity
I've had both recommend the kona
The Ioniq 28 is definitely quicker than 9.9 seconds. I'm getting slightly over 8 consistently. Also, the Ioniq uses 10 to 20% less electricity. You can add that to the range.
Cargo space is also more than reported here. The Ioniq fits more all around. The Kona is inefficient, space wise, as heck.
For a used car, if you want to go frugal, the Ioniq is a much better option, so long as you can deal with the range. That is its main weakness.
The big difference is just how aerodynamic the Ioniq is, I love mine. There is no foot footbrake on the EV its electronic and it does have pedestrian reignition. Perhaps best to talk to an owner before you do reviews
Robert, I've acknowledged that several times already
Kona goes further, has more features and is roomy. Plus it looks like a normal car.
Have the Ioniq with ventilated seats, maybe this is not available in the UK?
Anyways, great car and so happy we bought it. Range is not really an issue, drove 3000+ km this summer, no problems using quick-charger. The quick charge is actually really quick, mostly stopped 15-20 minutes before continuing driving at 80-95% range so no worries at all. For "home" driving we never charge more than once a week.
Also tested the Kona, and the back seat room + cargo is SO small it was just out of the question. The Ioniq feels so spacious compared to the Kona and should definitely be considered when purchasing. Adults with long legs have plenty of space in the Ioniq, but really would struggle in the Kona.
Morten, agree with on rear space compared to Ioniq. It's perfect for us, we don't need adult space in the back. Ioniq is an awesome car just needs extra 15kwh in the battery to be perfect
Got the Hyundai hybrid Premium SE model recently. (2018 -UK) Loving it. Easily the best car I have ever had. Early days but averaging 62 mpg although I did have it in the sport mode a few times which makes it feel a different car again. Have to get used to a silent car on start up. Looks stunning in the platinum silver finish and much better looking than the Prius. Dual clutch automatic super smooth.
Hi bud keep up the good work and keep the Kona news coming. I live in St John's Newfoundland and EVs aren't really adopted here yet.Most Dealer service centres can't even service EVs yet and don't even promote EVs. It's hard to even buy a even here cause hardly any dealer has them. I've been following your videos and love watching them. Keep up the good work and keep us informed.
Thanks Richard it's great to hear the videos are well received. It is definitely surprising at how slow some are to the change to EVs. Nissan leafs are the only commonly seen EV around.
Distracted with wedding plans at the moment but back to Kona focus again after next week
Yeah it's sad how slow progress is here on the EV front. The Nissan dealership here isn't a authorized leaf dealership so they don't have them. I can't even test drive one which sucks.But congratulations on you both have a wonderful wedding and looking forward to more videos take care.
Thanks Richard, desire is outstripping demand everywhere but it sounds more dire in Newfoundland
Did I hear that Ioniq is the most efficient electric car on the market?
Might be some weird lesser known one but otherwise yes, I believe so
Hi Nigel
I think the ionic EV does have ventilated seats leastways the one Ryan of EVopinion reviewed had them
john
Thanks John, think I was focused on other things lol, missed that. Hybrid I tested didn't
I must admit, I would prefer a car shaped vehicle than a cuv/SUV shaped vehicle. But I definitely want the longer range, so I guess Kona it is.
Me too Robert
Speaking as an Ioniq EV owner and a pretty tall one, I would definitely prefer an CUV/SUV. Efficiency is amazing on the Ioniq but the comfort is lacking (at least for a 6'5" person).
I think Ioniq and Kona are both nice looking vehicles.
I have a 2017 Sonata 2.4 with GDI.
I regularly acheave 40+ mpg on the highway. Driving a steady 65mph it gets 45mpg.
I paid $17,100 for it brand new. Its been super reliable and I enjoy driving it on long trips.
My point is... hybrids and EVs are awesome and probably the future but are the higher purchase prices worth the difference?
D N
Hybrid NO
EV. YES
Financially? Yes in long term higher mile cases
I agree EVs are to expensive but without them there will be no future….
Did you buy a Kona yourself? You are very positive about the Kona :) I bought one too, so I don't mind, but be careful making conclusions towards an Ioniq since people might get stepped on their toes.
Possi, many thanks. Yes I'm pro the Kona as it suits ME well which I try to cover honestly. The Ioniq is great. I love it's interior and efficiency more than any other EV but not its looks, boot space and less engaging drive. When it gets a revision I think it'll be awesome
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Just hoping for the Ioniq drivers that Hyundai will somehow come up with a 64 kwh battery pack for the Ioniq altho I don't think it'll fit under the car. That car will have massive range if that happens. Hope you get your car soon, I have to wait 3,5 more weeks :)
Thr only thing i wanted was the😊 safety detail. Good vid though
I wonder how the grip of the tyres will go on the Kona, with the extra power and only front wheel drive. Will the electric power, which is instantaneous, just cause the front wheels to spin on a robust take off.
Hadtobe usually the tires spin easier on EVs due to the low friction/extra milage tires.
You learn how to accelerate. Only spun tires once
The braking system on the steering column worries me a little bit.
Put it on the floor
No thanks, Regen adjustment on paddles is perfect.
You quickly adjust to it and the braking is much better than a regular car without the brake wear
which one is more comfortable? which one has more road noise?
It's very subjective. Kona rides firmer and sportier. Ioniq is softer but Kona has better seats and is more comfortable on my mind. Depends how you define comfort.
They're both very quiet. Ioniq tyres a little quieter but I hear Hyundai aren't using the louder Nexen tyres any more despite those tyres giving excellent tread life
@@EVPuzzle Thank you so much. I can't decide but am leaning toward the Ioniq because I like the interior better. But I love the range on the Kona.
Vastly different ride height. That's the biggest difference. Ioniq is very low. Boot is longer and lower. Kona is taller easier to get I and out of and boot is taller but shorter
Se premium ionic also has lka and ventilated seats!
Hi - good Vlog but did I miss it. What is the range on the new 64 kwh Kona. Any info on this? Also range against temperature would be good.
Thanks mate,
This one covered it...
ruclips.net/video/S0YXIRR8530/видео.html
I think officially it's about 285miles in good conditions and good driving, less in worse conditions and 300+ for better conditions or very economical driving
great job with the video
i would have guessed that the Ioniq would have had a lot more boot space but it looks very close in your comparison.
Hyundai's own data. Ioniq is bigger but it's very low so not all usable
The EV Puzzle true. Thats interesting because i would have considered waiting for a 64kWh ioniq for the extra space. But the kona doesnt seem like that much of a smaller car.
Best to test them both. Back seats much bigger in Ioniq boot bigger but our dog has better space in the Kona. Kona better for taking junk to the tip, ioniq can't stand upright as much. It is odd
Ioniq is notorious for wheel spin when you floor it.
Sofala tested it with both hankook tires on the plug in version and some bridgestone on the EV, neither spun.
Kona can spin tires, all that means is money lost
The 64 kWh battery pack is the only one coming to norway
Not very specific info about the rear seat space. Kona seem like the best buy to me but I cant buy it since (I suspect) that the rear seat is to small for my teenage kids. Or is it not? This is quite disturbing since these cars are almost equally priced... How can this be?
Michael. I've covered that precisely in my videos. Ioniq is oddly priced cheaper yet is better trimmed. I guess it's the extra 3k or so for the battery , the HUD and a slight premium for a crossover.
Seat space can seem cramped behind the driver if the seat is on the lowest settings and set right back. At 5ft 10 I had plenty of space. Go try it yourself in a petrol version and compare seat fully down versus raised slightly. If the driver is 6ft plus space will be teenager friendly but not 6ft adult friendly imo
Michael_svm2 my dad fits in the back seat in the kona. Kinda small but ill think they fit
Teenagers would fit fine
Waiting list for the kona ….. Ionic looks better… lease on a kona is about £200 per month more than the Ionic ….
Got my Mona in two days
Kona
Hello. Can I ask please, do you know if the top of the range Kona will have Lane Follow Assist and/or Lane Keep Assist? Thanks. I enjoy reading about your journey. I am thinking of upgrading to a longer range EV from my 30kWh Leaf. The Kona is top of the list so far.
Alan
Yes,. I did a video on that specifically.
Premium SE has both LFA and LKA, .
All 3 models have LKA apparently.
Actually UK spec Hyundai just sent me says Premium and Premium SE get LFA.
They really mix the specs up in different countries it seems.
No part leather on Premium so it seems too.
Ah thanks Nigel. Do you know if there is there anywhere on the internet I can get hold of that list please? It's just that I saw a video where the Kona was bouncing from line to line with the LKA and I wondered why they didn't use LFA. The 3 things I like that the Leaf has and the Kona doesn't is: bringing the car to a halt by lifting the accelerator pedal, all around cameras and their LFA works great. Maybe it is now just two.
Try this link
mobile.hyundai.co.uk/new-cars/coming-soon/kona-electric
In your video from the 30th of June you say, that Kona premium SE 64kw costs 31.795 GBP.
And now you say its 36.295 GBP.
It is soo confusing!
What is the actual price difference between top-spec Leaf and Kona SE 64kw?
Can't choose between these two.
In Andorra Leaf Tekna is about 7k cheaper that Kona SE, which is a bit too much, isn't it?
Pre UK grant and post grant, being £4500 sorry for any confusion.
My leaf comparison video covers your question
The EV Puzzle, so the Leaf Tekna price of 28.4k, you mention in that video, includes the UK government grant?
Without it it's 33k?
Yep, sounds right
In Canada, $10,000 off the price with province and federal sibsidies.
I like this Hyundai Kona EV, and I don't even like Tesla Model 3 awd that I test drove with its awful
regenerative brakes. Although I like Nexo's dashboard way better than the Kona, it looks like a Mercedes
E400 series two 12 inch screens; love the Nexo's center console.
And I'm an owner of a 2017 Corvette with stickshift. And I NEVER thought highly of Hyundai/Kia nor would
even ever consider owning one because of its 1980s poor reliability, safety, and poor people stigma.
@3:38 Doesn't the Ioniq have a version of lane keep?
ruclips.net/video/Ot6Z4A7OWjw/видео.html
Yes LKA not LFA. Kona has LKA too
The EV Puzzle what's the difference?
LFA works from 0 mph so better for queue following and more focus on centre of the lane. No further details yet as new tech. Just another step towards autonomous driving but not quite there
You forgot something very important. The range. I believe the Kona had a way better range.
Besides if you buy the app, you can turn off the PowerDirector watermark.
Range is the key
Thanks Nigel, an interesting comparison.
The Kona has an impressive spec. but unimpressive price. The power is good, torque is huge. I like the look of the Ionic, it feels lovely to drive , the dash graphics are superb and it's very efficient, especially at motorway speeds (low drag coefficient). Unfortunately for me, getting in and out of the Ionic is painfull, it's very low with a low roof line too. The Kona I found easy to enter/exit. It looks funky/interesting to me.
I can't quite workout the manufacturers thinking at the moment, are the low unit numbers because they just don't have the capacity or are they just testing the waters, gauging consumers wants before deciding on final specs/options/prices prior to comitting to full production levels?
Congrats on your wedding plans, have a happy and contented future, also have fun racing your Kona versus the Mr's Cooper S, I think you might just win!
Thanks Howard.
I love the Ioniq interior but Konas slightly sportier drive
I think the low production runs, are a mix of not enough batteries initially ordered; and the U.S. market. If a manufacturer makes a certain number of a particular model, (regardless of whether it is sold in America) they lose out on import quotas of other ICE models. A token selection of pure electric, hybrids, etc. imported to the U.S., allows for a great import of other models. Hyundai might make great EVs but they're not about to shoot themselves on the foot, by promoting electric over ICE.
As early adopters and wannabes, we are looking to the best available EV for the price. And hoping for better at a hopeful price tag. The manufacturer, is looking for profit, wherever that my be. To you and me they make cars. But the Hyundai group make cars, trucks, construction plant, ships and more. EVs are a very small part of their business.
I agree with your comments except to say that, in the not too distant future a good EV, at a good price, is potentionally a big earner, even for Hyundai.
Have you actually had a chance to drive the Ioniq Electric yet or just the Hybrid? I don't think either of the Hybrids are as "Dynamic" a drive as the electric.
A nearly new electric premium SE in metallic marina blue, with electric driver seat, without that I would have found it nearly impossible for me to enter/exit as I cannot bend my neck very much, it has a very low seat and a low roofline. There is a quality feel about the cabin. Not as fast as the 40kWh Nissan Leaf but good enough. Pin sharp graphics on the screens but a small boot space. Dealer would not allow an extended unattended test drive, I told him that would put me off buying it with no response from him. I went to see the Kona but they had no electric models yet and could not tell me when to expect them, waiting for a call when the Kona EV arrives to test drive. I was not impressed with the dealers atttitude, a sort of take it or leave it stance, may well leave it.
The ebrake in the Ioniq is not a peddle it's electronic. Also the Ioniq is active liquid cooled.
So I've been told on the hand brake, my mistake. Btms however looks like conflicting info
The EV Puzzle MMM interning because I see a radiator and coolant under my hood and I bought the car because the difference between it and the leaf is that it has an active cooling system.
I was told it's. Fans circulating air. From the cabin to the batteries
No liquid TMS. Just air cooled.
Ioniq way more aerodynamic - better on autobahn
I like the upcoming name change...
Hmm, the ioniq whit 64kw bat...
You make better car reviews than the professional car reviews.
The 2020 Ioniq has filled in some of the gaps mentioned for the 2019.
Are you saying I'm not professional enough ??🤭😉🤣
Thank you
The EV Puzzle on the contrary.
Here I was quietly thinking to myself that you was a very professional retiree trying his darned best to educate a bunch of ignoramus RUclipsrs like myself to better ourselves.
Lol, I try to help and share my thoughts in the hope they help others
The EV Puzzle you most certainly do.
not i would buy both!
Incredible how ugly the interior of the Kona is when compared to the Ioniq. Looks like a A segment car.
It looks like a regular car, very nice interior. Saw electric and hybrid future cars. UGLY!!! Make a car a car, not a futuristic dream car. I cannot understand why engineers think it has to be that way
The Kona has had some terrible reviews
Thankfully not as many as the Leaf
The EV Puzzle problem with the Leaf is the charge limitation, which doesn't affect everyone. The rest of the car has been quite praised in the press.
Where?
As we both know it's not true
Oh yeah?! It was named North American car of the year, best SUV by both Car and Driver and Edmunds. Keep on researching...