Dune - Group Movie Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2021
- Dune has arrived! Grab yourself a coffee and take in the epic that is sure to leave you wanting more! Timothée Chalamet and plenty of others star in this year's best sci fi motion picture to release!
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RE: Riding the sandworms: The hooks they have are to lift up segments of the worm's outer hide, exposing its insides to the sand. So the worm lifts itself out of the sand to avoid this irritation, which allows the Fremen to ride and steer. So until the rider lets go, that worm isn't going to go under.
I love that Herbert explained that. It would be so easy to just say that they hooked on and rode.
That's actually brilliant! I'm loving this world so much! I can't wait to have the books in my hands
I had been curious about that, thanks!, that makes sense too
Jesus, of course this has an explanation. I really need to read the book...
Always good to run into one of the museum Fremen who knows the old ways!
lady jessica and the duke are not married. she is his concubine, because to leave the duke open to a political marriage.
Thank you for the aclaration! I didn’t understand very much that point in the movie
Marriage is not for love, but simply a way to cement political alliances. I like how this medievsl practice is used in the makes film. By giving us Lady Jessica and Chani we see it from the perspective of the concubines. The books handling of Chani differs from the Movie,... But it definately makes for a morre interesting Paul/Chani relationship.
So curious How Denis will tackle Dune Messiah.
@@clarissanavarro2762Yeah The change in the ending between Paul and Chani is problematic to say the least and I just hope that in case DV makes another movie it makes sense how all this is resolved because it has changed Chani so much (for better and for worse) that it is not not even the same character.
@@manuelcb1960 sometimes in adapting from book to film, changes have to be made.
While many of us want a direct adaptation where every character remains the same,... sometimes changing the film from the source material makes for a better movie for the times.
I never really liked Chani and Jessica's submissiveness in the books,... and I am certain many of the people that are viewing these movies that never read or enjoyed the books, would have found _those_ depictions of Chani and Jessica "problematic"
Both Jessica and Chani have their own agendas,... both freely choose to do what they do, not because " it pleases some dude." But for their own reasons.
While I can understand why Paul did what he did,.... I respect Chani for walking away.
How it shapes up for Dune Messiah?? I hate to tell you this but,.... I can see DV diverging even more from the books.
Before you say that DV made a Mistake diverging from the Book Dune, let's remember a Movie already exists that tried to stick closer to the books, ...even to the point of providing voice-overs to all the major characters so that the audience hears what their thoughts are,.... because that is how it is done in the book.
If you wish something closer to the source material.... Dune (1984) still exists.
@@clarissanavarro2762 The only thing I do find ridiculous is that Chani is the ONLY Fremen who thinks differently.
I’ve noticed that Denis Villenueve’s films are a slow burn but not confusing. The story was told well.
Blade Runner 2049, Arrival, Prisoners, Enemy, and now Dune are all slow but not for the sake of being slow, but because they needed to be.
I really enjoyed the pacing and how easy it was to follow. I find that many people get very easily confused with sci-fi lore but Dune 2021 made everything very comprehensible!
It's like game of thrones slow but this is a movie, something is bound to happen every episode in a series anyway
NO WAY. When I was watching Dune I literally thought that I hadn't felt such a deep atmosphere in a movie since Blade Runner, I didn't realize it was the same director!
@@JBroAlsoDraws Denis is amazing
I'm surprised how much lore they managed to fit in here. Pretty much spoonfed it, yet there's some that say it was difficult to follow smh
I feel like Chris didn't realize that control of Arrakis was being forced upon house Atreides. They weren't trying to take it in the first place.
This was one of my favorite Chris reactions. His mind seems to be blown throughout the whole film.
@@BigKnecht triggered
I mean I haven’t read the book but to me it seemed like Leto didn’t have to accept the emperors offer to take control of it. But he did because he thought he could overcome the challenge and thus bring his house to greater heights. This is illustrated through the story of the grandfather matador and bull imagery throughout. Leto is the matador taking on the bull of the emperor and house harkonen. But he realizes pretty quickly that was a mistake “I thought I’d have more time”
@@mitter352 Yes it is a decision but it's also not wise to decline what the Empire wants. Leto saw the advantage of alling house Atreides with the Fremen as the best option for his house giving the circumstance.
@@mitter352 Leto was aware that the Emperor was throwing him to the dogs, but the Empire decrees who runs Arrakis. It’s the most valuable substance in the universe, knowing there’s a knife in your back or not, you’d be a fool to turn it down. Leto didn’t control a large force compared to the Harkonnens for example, but the men he did have under his command were extremely loyal - which made Leto a threat. The other houses would not defend House Atreides from the Emperors wrath.
Unless you have a great sound system, you’re missing out on a big part of the film. Seeing it in theaters was an experience.
i think they said that they're going to rewatch it in theaters... definitely a good idea, the soundtrack is amazing.
@@pomegranatejuice5139 but again, it's not like the first time
For me it was WAY too loud in the theaters. I kept covering my ears every other scene 😕
@@gotaos8633 You were here watching their reactions. How would you watch their reactions if they did what you want of them?
@@TheCrazyCloon i don't have to watch this reaction, if they just come here after and give a review of the movie it would be enough...
There are so many series and old movies that they can react to they don't need to ruin the cinema experience too
Tell me honestly, i don't know if you are a big fan of movies/series....but if you are, would you want to watch it with lights on?? talking during?? not good sound system??(they also can't have the volume high enough because we won't hear them)
They claim to be movie fans but from their actions it doesn't seem like they really are
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it isn't stated in the movie, but in the book they explain that their tradition states when a Crysknive is unsheathed, it must draw blood before being put back, even if it means you must draw your own blood.
The sign language they use is Atreides battle language. Something they use in combat or covert situations, and only among loyal members of their house, something no others would know, thus making it almost impossible to intercept.
its a form of Chakobsa which the Fremen use
@@PodreyJenkin138 Chakobsa isnt a Atriedes invention there battle language is based off it. The Bene Gesserit use it and therefore the Fremen who have been indoctrinated by the BGs for god knows how long with them planting stories about prophecies and such by using Sayyadina
Props to David Peterson for developing those! Although… I’m not sure he’s experienced in any signed language. Hmmm.
lol stop making up stuff you dont read the books
@@lufasumafalu5069L
Best part of this entire reaction: “What wealth can you offer beyond the water inside of your flesh?”
“Ugh, I’ll bring you back a pool bruh.”
They literally have cubics of water in caladan 😂
lol wats a pool?
The sand worm's scales normally lock tight to keep sand from getting in. Getting sand inside their scales is an extreme irritation to shai hulud.
When fremen ride the worms, they keep a few scales popped up with their riding hooks. The worms will not submerge with their protection compromised like this.
This is how fremen can ride the worms with no fear of them diving.
Cheers. 🙂
Wow that's so impressive and badass !
cool detail man
Yes and the worm will keep the exposed scales on top as far from the sand as possible, so they can "steer" the worm by working their way down the side and exposing scales as they go. The worm will roll to keep the exposed scales on top and that causes it to turn one way or the other. :)
Scales? Segments...
That is fucking sick. Someone asked why do the worms not just dive when being ridden, and Frank Herbert actually thought of a valid reason. Amazing world building!
I completely fell in love with Leto's character within minutes, what a performance
Leto is probably one of my most favorite characters in the book, he's so incredibly genuine and a sincerely good man who cares deeply for not only his family but for the planet he rules, it's people and those loyal to him, even those who aren't loyal to him but not evil/cruel. He deeply believes in caring for those under him and those who are weak, innocent, and young. He takes his duties to his people and the universe around him and always strives to do the right thing. Beautifully written and realized character, even though he isn't in a lot of the book he leaves a strong impression nonetheless, it broke my heart when he died. He reminds me a lot of Ned Stark in Game of Thrones. Hands down best sci-fi, fantasy Dad ever.
As someone who grew up reading Dune, I have to say they did a FANTASTIC job with this movie!! Now, I can't wait for the second one!!
Oh yea same here! I really hope this one makes enough to get a sequel.
Second one still hasn't been greenlit unfortunately. So even if it happens, we probably won't be seeing the sequel until 2024 or 2025
@@PlagueJ - I understand the studio cleared it's projected/anticipated profit margin with just the European release, so everything they get from the U.S. and China release is just gravy. Hopefully, this will be enough to convince them to green-light the 2nd part. I realize it'll be a while, but as long as it happens, I'll be happy. Fingers crossed!!
@@meadmaker4525 Sweet!
WB confirmed the second part was in the go...
Touching on economy, in the book the Harkonnen sent over 2000 large ships to attack every population center on the planet. The cost to do that was ridiculously expensive, it cost the Baron about 50 years of profits made from spice mining Arrakis. It almost broke House Harkonnen and they were one of the richest houses. That’s the reason the Atredies was so unprepared for the attack. Tufir didn’t entertain the idea of an attack at that scale let alone prepare for it. That’s why the Baron is so focused on Rabban making money.
The movie also left out that the Atreides army attacked the secret storehouses of the Harkonnen during this invasion so that's why the Atreides had little personel and they didn't just get ambushed they fought back causing much more financial damage to the Harkonnen.
@@Thighs_Lover That was much much smaller force and was more of a sabotage mission to destroy the reserves (most of the battles were fought that way for centuries because of the cost). Most of the Atredies forces were on Dune when it was attacked, don't forget they just paid to have them move over there, the Atredies were not a rich house.
@@RashaKahn Oh I understand gonna read that part again thanks
I’m just confused about this whole “50 year set back”. From what I remember from the film, that huge fast travel tube thing in space belongs to the Space Guild, which I’m assuming is who they’re paying all that money to. House Harkonnen has an unfathomable amount of soldiers. What’s stopping a House from just wrestling the powers of the Space Guild away and avoid going in debt? The only thing I can think of is because they’re backed by the Emperor and they’re given control as a more unbiased power, but still.
@@timmyly2363 there’s a lot of reasons why no one house could depose the spacing guild, first is the guild are the only ones who developed and can train navigators, if you follow the prequel books they’re trained and are slowly mutated since they were teens. Second, the moment any type of aggression is made toward the guild they would just take the aggressors planet off their map and cut them off from the rest of the universe. Remember they are also the main means of communication not just transport. They’re more powerful than the Emperor and don’t need his backing.
Great reaction. A lot of you mentioned that Yueh's betrayal wasn't worth it. In the novel they flesh him out more. He has a feeling both him and her wife are going to be killed but it's worth it to him just so they stop torturing her. "they take her apart like a doll." The spider a few scenes earlier had human hands...
Rana: "Yeah! Let's get to the Harkonnen people man!"
Seconds later: "Eww"
Me: That was your fault Rana! You ASKED for them!
"The main character is called Paul!"
He'll make up for his lack of a flashy SciFi name later. :)
He was still one of the least interesting characters in the books.
meanwhile "Luke" skywalker exists
@@lalalarose8197 agreed. he's a moody teen who can be hard to connect with sometimes, but I think timothee's subtelty gives a good performance.
Paul feels like a much better character in the second book. But then again that's when the author realized he wasn't being clear enough in his critique in book 1 and really lays it on thick about how Paul is not the hero here.
@@maciedixon3983 agreed. Paul, especially in the first half of the first book, is very stoic and that's really difficult to portray on screen. His real character development doesn't occur until the second half of the first book and other novels. I feel Villeneuve did a pretty good job fleshing out his character.
As someone who’s read the book, “I actually don’t know what the fuck that is” was also my immediate reaction to that… thing.
I put forward the theory the Tleilaxu spliced the pug from David Lynch's lame baron and Yueh's wife together.
A Tleilaxu creation no doubt. Most likely from one of their vile Axlotyl Tanks.
@@MySamurai77 careful, before one of those tanks slaps you with a slipper
Old man looking into a projected globe:Look love one of them has never seen a..oh? Who’s there
Dune has done well enough that they announced the sequel is being made. Dune Part II has received a green light.
Yeah, as if the two movies weren't originally greenlit and filmed together rofl
@@Gebdoe they werent?
@@Gebdoe they weren't
@@Gebdoe Dennis Villeneuve wanted to film both movies together, but Legendary Pictures didn't have enough faith that the first film would be successful enough to justify a sequel. So the script for Part 2 is complete, but there's no film yet. Filming for part two is set to start July 2022.
Now they won 6 Oscars, so they'll probably make all of them haha
'Dune' used Abu Dhabi's desert and Jordan's Wadi Rum to create Arrakis.
Key points about the film: no AI exists in the universe of Dune due to a war between men and machines in millennia past. Humans are specially trained to use the spice to navigate and fold space/time to travel to other planets. Additionally, humans are also trained to calculate math equations as fast as computers...they are called Mentats. We saw two of them in the movie: Thufir Hawat with House Atredies and Pieter de Vries with House Harkonnen. They have a blackish/red rectangular tattoo on their lower lip in the movie, in the books their lips are stained red from drinking a juice that increases their cognitive abilities.
Yeah, there is a lot of backstory and world building in this story 👍
No AI with the reason you mentioned sounds interesting
"A war between man and machines" is Brian Herbert fanfiction. In the original series, the Butlerian jihad is implied to be more like a galactic purge of all AI by fanatics who believed that AI would one day surpass mankind in intelligence and attempt to take over. They got rid of the machines because of their fears of what would come, not of what had already come to pass. That's a big theme in Dune.
@@nathancollins1715 - it may have been written by his son, but it is canon. I'm looking at all the elements being used to create this film. It is what it is, fanfic or not. It exists.
@@KC1976fromDetroit dune super fans are very nerdy so they will sometimes reject new books.
@@ANTIStraussian - it's true for any fandom. I was like that with Star Wars for ages. I rejected the prequels as trash (still do, as well as the sequel trilogy). I had to give up on engaging in pedantic rants about who is a bigger fan or knows more about the thing we're all supposedly fans of. It's just not worth it. Far too many "well, actually" people in the world, it makes fandoms toxic and unenjoyable. So, I take the "superfans" with a grain a salt, and let it go 👍
Mickey: dune is gonna have some very eclectic names
Dune: Bob Nebraska
This movies soundtrack was everything
Imagine not watching in theatres
@@maul8384 i watched it at home but i can only imagine how good it sounded in the theaters
@@pomegranatejuice5139 it honestly was great! I watched at home first but then went to theaters to watch it again
The Hans has Zimmered.
@@maul8384 I watched it in 3D in the theater and it was a lifetime experience that I'll never forget especially the music which gave me chills throughout the movie.I would definitely recommend watching it in 3D it's honestly the best experience.
Just a note. Spice has nothing to do with folding space. That is done by the ships. Spice is used to heighten the minds of the navigators so they navigate the ships. They can't use computers because they are forbidden. Before the discovery of spice, a lot of ships were lost.
@@Fordo007 People who tried to build computers were probably immediately found out and executed considering the BeneGeserit, Spacing Guild, Imperial House, etc have spies everywhere.
@@Fordo007 There is more to it. But i dont want to spoil stuff.
@@Fordo007 they BASICALLY went through a galactic version of Skynet/Terminator/Cylon insurrection and near annihilation, when they developed A.I.
They're DONE with smart computers, full stop. They'll do the best they can with what they've got.
@@Fordo007 It’s more than rules and law. It’s THE biggest taboo in the universe. You don’t make thinking machines. Period.
@@Fordo007 Well there is the ixians. Planet Ix, of House vernius. They kinda build lots of machines, and live in a technocracy, im guessing that harkonan spider human hybrid was made on ix, as they play a lot with genetic engineering as well. They are the only exception in the empire. And while they refrain from making thinking machines ( allegedly) , there is no doubt they break the rules now and then. There is reasons why the empire allows this leniency, ( mostly practical reasons) but i wont go into it, its a long story. Suffice to say i doubt they will feature Ix in the movies. They become more important to the story way later on.
Making machines thinking machines is a big taboo in the universe, they had a Jihad called butlarian jihad to wipe out all of the thinking machines.
28:09 If I saw an angry Khal Drogo come out of the desert screaming with a bladed weapon, I'd run too!
I will just answer possible future questions and give interesting facts:
- Greg Fraser is the cinematographer of this film as well as the upcoming Batman
- The film was shot in Abu Dhabi, Hungary, Jordan, and Norway
- Hans Zimmer dreamed of writing an ost to Dune
- Paul's blue eyes mean that he has been using Spice for a long time, like Fremen
- There was a war against machines in the Dune universe, and therefore there is no Artificial intelligence and advanced technologies, the inhabitants of different planets have abandoned them, and rely only on their skills, experience, skills in mechanics, engineering, etc...
- The Bene Gesserit is an order of priestesses /witches / fortune-tellers (different cultures and mentalities perceive and call them differently) consisting only of women who have influence within political foundations and represent themselves as advisers/ mentors close to royal families (like Arethusa sorceresses from the Witcher universe, well, almost ...)
--The bald guys who stood next to Vladimir Harkonnen (The Flying Fat Man) when he took a bath are Mentats, they are a living archive and a guide
-Those who attacked the Atreides at night are the Sardukars, one of the strongest armies and the personal guard of the Emperor (the Harkonens are even less cruel compared to them, and unless only the Foremen can repulse them, by the way, they are one of the reasons why the Emperor was never dethroned) ruthless, real self-murderers, carry out any orders (somewhat reminiscent of the Outriders of the "Space Dogs" from the Avengers:Infinity War) when you saw a scene with Mongolian singing under a rain shower, then pay attention there people were sacrificed in the form of a ritual, this is one of their traditions...(according to the Aztec type)
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No wonder the Batman trailer has shots that’s so similar to Dune
Speaking of Hans Zimmer, he is the Atreides Bagpiper in the arrival on Arrakis scene...
no A.I. also means poisons and drugs were focused on over the years and play a big part of the story.
why you made up stuff , do you even read the boooks
Very talented director who definitely understands the material and the film making. I like that they took out the characters that wouldn't have factored in till part 2 and made time for key threads important to the long term narrative.
Vanity Fair released a video on their YT of Denis Villeneuve breaks down the Gom Jabbar scene. Its is such a fantastic Video where he explains that he was a pretentious, totalitarian dreamer as a kid and made this movie in mind with himself. I genuinely admire that he tried to recreate the dreams and images that he pictured when he read DUNE. And it totally worked, brilliant adaptation!
I was really impressed by Jason Momoa's acting, dude really brought it for this movie
He basically was Momoa, as always.
@@Dacre1000 And at the same time "basically Momoa" is perfect casting for Duncan Idaho.
@@Dacre1000 he was momoa as usual, but I thought his acting was better here than it’s ever been
I'd never seen Momoa in anything else before but had heard he was basically always playing himself. Though he was obviously well cast for the role here, I thought he did show much more range than I was expecting.
I suspect Denis Villeneuve had to work a lot with Momoa but managed to make something of an actor out of him.
Momoa was playing as Momoa, he's an action star not an actor 🤪
There is a RUclipsr named Quinn that has a channel dedicated to Dune, Game of Thrones and other properties.
He has a channel called Quinn’s Ideas that has fantastic videos that explain Dune for both newbies and experienced viewers
He's damn good. One of my favorite youtube channels.
Also Nerd Cookies has been making great videos for a few years now on Dune and its intricacies
Thank goodness for a non Disney or Marvel sci-fi blockbuster. It's a refreshing change that doesn't rely on constant mindless action. I've been starving for a movie like this.
I will definitely buy the artbook. The visuals are sick
Watched it in imax tonight and immediately ordered that book. It’s just visually stunning.
The deluxe edition of the first book is beautiful. Looks great on a shelf
I'm hoping they use the same publisher as the 2049 art book with the special edition sleeving and frame print.
Really? someone forgot to put any colour in this movie. also..enough with the washed out lens filters. also, generic sci-fi bland and dull costumes and design
@@redcardinalist You might want to take a colorblind test.
I loved the Atreidies formal dress uniforms. They look like Imperial Japanese Navy uniforms from WW II.
The imperial japanese uniforms are just straight up western uniforms.
That's a rather bad connotation for a uniform
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The costume designers in their interview said that the Atreides costumes were inspired by the film Doctor Zhivago and the last Romanovs. That is, they were inspired by Russia, not Japan.
@@zzz7103 That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought Dr. Zhivago would be inspiration for costumes of all things.
also: in the dune universe it is usually swords and low yield projectile weapons and missiles in combat. this has a very important reason: there are laser weapons as seen in the movie, but they really dont match well with shields. when hit, the laser strike initiates a nuclear blast in the shield, that devastates the battlefield.
The lasers in this movie gave me so much anxiety because of that. If they'd actually hit Duncan that'd be the end of basically everyone in the movie.
Don't they cause a nuclear explosion to the target *AND* the laser-device itself, thus anihilating *both* opponents?
And because of a treaty that nuclear blast (accident or not) will not would have serious consequences to the ones that caused it
@@revylokesh1783 I think you're correct that it creates a feedback loop sort of effect.
It's really cool that humans in this universe devolved warfare to near primitive levels. Even basic spears would be ineffective due to how advanced the shielding technology is.
"Duncan Idaho is the MVP" - you have no idea
Before the spice, they had computers to plot the courses of their space-folding drives, but then there was a holy war against AIs (loooong story), and that's why there are so many schools to make humans more than human:
--Spacing Guild: trains people with lots of space to use prescience to chart courses and allow the ships to not crash into stuff
--Bene Gesserit: all women school with refined control of their bodies and the breeding program for 'the one' (Kwisatz Haderach)
--The Suk Doctors: Like Doctor Yueh, they are the absolute best of the best doctors (and here obviously have pressure point/fine control sense over tech)
--Swordmasters of Ginaz: Like Duncan, the absolute best warriors in the universe, but can be overwhelmed by the best soldiers (the Imperial Sardaukar, at least until the Fremen come on the scene)
I'm honestly sad that you guys didn't watch this movie in theatres. As someone who knew nothing about DUNE it was such an experience in theatres! But glad for the video!
I watched it on HBO but I'm definitely taking my son to Imax this weekend. I think alot of people will do that.
I think some of it had to do with pandemic issues.
As someone who's been waiting for this 40 fo years, I was totally blown away, and totally satisfied!
SAME! I knew nothing about it and I was TRANSPORTED in the theater. Right when I got home I logged into HBO and watched it again. I wanted that experience of watching it in the theater first!
the riding the sandworm part, remember the hook you saw earlier, you put it under the skin of the fold of the worm, the worm detects that an under fold is exposed and turns to it so it is at the top. As long as you keep the area irritated the worm will not go under the sand.
wow that's crazy
That was a brilliant scene.👏
This movie in theaters is an EXPERIENCE
That dive scene gave me chills, even when I saw it again!
Going to the theater for the second time right now, absolutely incredible
Wife surprised me with a drive in viewing AWESOME
Saw this in the theatre then went to my computer after the film to watch this reaction. In theatre, it's awe-inspiring and I love how Denis creates a sci-fi world that looks unlike anything else you usually see.
Please go watch this in the theater, first because it needs that support so they can make part two, and second because the experience is truly unmatched and should not be passed up.
I think warner bros said that they will also count the hbo max viewership for dune
It’s probably already in the works, we should be fine
Months ago, I read somewhere getting a part two was dependent on the success of HBO Max viewership because the theater issue was unknown at the time. From the success it had overseas, it's almost confirmed we'll get a part two.
@@thatsbad100 that's why they released it simultaneously in both in the US to begin with tbh
This movie in imax is breathtaking. Can’t remember having a viewing experience like that since LOTR came out
They always say "This movie needs to be seen in theaters." "This movie needs to be seen in IMAX." "It's meant to be a cinematic experience." This is one of the few movies where I've ever felt it's actually true.
There are 6 original books and then more books in the extended Dune universe written by the original authors son along with another person. So some fans view the first 6 books as the real original collection by Frank Herbert, and then the rest as fan fiction made by the authors son.
I highly recommend the book to anyone that enjoyed the movie!!! It has much more mystery and political intrigue that they had to cut for time in favor of the action scenes - totally makes sense from a film making perspective but worth the time it takes to read the book to get all those extra world building details!!!
I bought the eBook the moment movie ended...it felt like I must read the books to know more of the background story and the dense plot it has
I really hope you enjoy it!! It’s one of the most captivating stories in my opinion and so difficult to include all the best of the book into another form of media.
another pice of tech info: shields are a defence against everything thats fast. like projectiles, shockwaves of explosions and the like. everything that has high kinetic energy. but everything that moves slow gets through. like air, slowly but powerfully executed attacks from swords and even some very specialized projectile weapons penetrate it.
Correct. Shields in Dune can stop ANY fast moving object (such as kinetic projectiles like bullets and missiles) and laser weaponry (the most widely used energy weapons in the Imperium.) These shields are basically impenetrable. Once these “Holtzman” shields were invented, everyone obviously started using them for protection. From personal shields that fit on your belt to shields that enveloped starships or even cities.
Because of this, conventional guns became useless and laser weapons were FAR too dangerous to be used, as the target you were shooting at likely had an active shield protecting them (laser weapons impacting these shields had a random chance to cause a chain reaction that resulted in a *nuclear explosion.* This chain reaction also had a chance to travel back along the beam and detonate the attacker's weapon, destroying them as well.)
This is why far future humanity was forced to mostly revert back to slow moving swords, daggers and other simple hand weapons (the only kind that could safely get through these shields) for combat in the Dune universe.
@@Gunnar001 it also plays into the analog universe. No digital computers or AI
@@Gunnar001 there was also mention that if a laser hits a holtzman shield the explosion could be so massive the planet you are on would blow up
Truth. Slow things get through because otherwise, they would suffocate. It's also the reason Duke Leto breathing the gas from the poisoned tooth actually affected the Baron, though clearly his suspensors saved him.
"Big Grandma vibes"
Book readers: *sweating*
Definitely 😅
Oof
No joke hands down the best adaptation of DUNE ever, the acting, the camera effects, even the CGI effects are spot on.
DUNE was literally made to be experienced in an IMAX theater. The director essentially said so himself in a few interviews. The musical score while sitting through an IMAX immerses you into every single scene. You literally feel every scene and the impact leaves you feeling like you just took a flight into space. One of the best experiences I have ever had sitting in a movie theater. Has to be seen in an IMAX.
About the shields, slow movement cuts through the shield. That is what Gurney was talking about the slow moving blade. So, I'm guessing when the gas is released, it's movement did not register since it's slow movement, and you're right they have to breathe in air so either way it was going to work.
I wish they had included more about Thufir Hawat. He is a Mentat basically a human supercomputer. He has the coldest job title - Mentat Master of Assassins. He runs the intelligence services for House Atreides.
In the book early on Paul is told he has the potential to be a Mentat. So he has super intelligence on top of Bene Gesserit and dope fighting skills.
The narrator at the beginning of the David Lynch movie was the Emperor's daughter, Princess Irulan. She is a historian and is recounting the history of Paul Atreides. She shows up later in the story.
Chris beware of Marketa, she is a 13 year old that wants telepathic powers of unconsensual compulsion 😂
LOL
The sequel was greenlit today! And it's been doing well in the box office, considering the global pandemic situation.
It took me almost twenty years to realize that the 'walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worm' line from weapon of choice was a dune reference.
"This man is gluttony." Nah he's all 7.
Fun Fact: The Fremen sandwalk was choreographed by Benjamin Millepied, Natalie Portman's husband. Also, it's really funny that the one chick--whose name escapes me--called the Baron a "chimera." House Harkonnen's house sigil is a griffin.
I wonder how many times he cam home from work and told her 'I don't like sand"...
I thought it was a ram, gryphon (or just eagle) being Atreides symbol.
So it's actually explained in the book how the fremen are able to ride the worms. They use the hooks to latch on to the worm's scales, and as they keep the scales exposed, the worms cannot dive into the sand, because it's harmful to them. They can only move on the surface. There's a whole technique on how they control the direction and everything. It's pretty cool.
In the scene when Kynes used a thumper to call the worm before she gets killed by a Sardaukar, you can see her waiting for the worm to come, while she is holding the hooks. She was planning on riding it. That's not how Kynes dies in the book, but because it's a pretty complex passage to be explained on a movie, they chose this instead. As a fan of the book, I thought it was even better.
Crazy!
The director is a true fan of Dune and was obssesive about getting certain things right. You have to condense content from the source material in all movies like this, but he did a great job for sure.
i wasnt a fan of Jason Mamoa and his roles prior to this movie but his portrayal of Duncan Idaho made me strangely attached to him lol.
Really? He always plays the same character, so what made you view him differently?
@@raifthemad I find him to be a bit more real in this movie than any other, he isn't some super macho man with no flaws. He seems to care for Paul and feel a great sense of duty
@@TheOTA101 Reminds me of his Stargate Atlantis performance.
"This has potential for like eight to ten movies" Good luck to Warner bros. making PG-13 versions of the other books, on a plus side your man Duncan Idaho keeps coming back
"Keeps coming back"
My ex asked me what character I'd play if this was re-made and it was without a doubt Dunkin, she said why he isn't even a main character and I said but he is in the whole series. She said but he died and I said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This really isn't a movie that lends itself to chit-chat in a bright room while watching on a TV with subtitles.
Agree!
I was curious to see how general audiences would react to this movie and those in the theater I saw it with seemed to enjoy it.
Chris's mind seems to be blown throughout the whole film.
I heard the question about what to do when a worm you're riding dives deeper into the sand on several channels, now. The answer is: the sandworm actually cannot dive deeper when someone's riding it. The body of the worm is made out of ring segments. The Fremen use the hooks not just to steer and hold on to the worm, but also to get on top and prevent him from diving. By holding two ring segments apart with the hooks, the vulnerable flesh of the worm is exposed. The worm instinctively turns the exposed part as far away from the sand as possible, allowing the Fremen to get on top of them by simply holding onto their hooks. A worm will not risk getting sand into the opening so he will stay above the ground as long as the hooks are in place.
When the Fremen reach their destination, the worm is usually tired enough to not attack when they release him and will usually just bury itself in the sand to rest and sulk for a while.
lol sandworm skulking
48:28 The Shai-Hulud (sandworms) have gills to breathe, but cannot get sand in their gills, so if you can jump on it and force the gills to remain open with those picks, it will keep near the surface and keep its gills facing up (where you're standing) so you can ride it. You can force it to turn by selectively opening and closing gills with the picks
You absolutely MUST see this movie in IMAX. Definitely one of my top 5 movie theater experiences. Going to see it again this week with some friends.
As a long time fan of the Dune novels & of the Lynch version, this new adaptation is jaw droppingly perfect in every sense. I got to see it in a full scale IMAX theatre & was truly blown away!!
To give you some back story into the Dune universe / saga; a story that spans 35’000 years, it’s good to know that dates are know as BG (Before Guild) & AG (After Guild). The Guild monopoly on space travel and transport and upon interstellar banking is taken as the beginning point of the Imperial Calendar.
Interestingly, the events of Dune when set to our current Earth years, take place 20’000 years into our future; so technically we are part of the Dune story.
19000-16000BG - Earliest civilisations on Terra (Earth)
16500BG - The Roman Empire
14100BG - 13600BG - Our Solar System is colonised.
13402BG - An asteroid hits Terra making it uninhabitable.
13402BG - 13399BG - The Rescue of Treasures off Terra.
13360BG - Terra is reseeded & set aside as a natural park under Imperial Decree.
200-108BG - The Butlerian Jihad. the crusade to free humans from thinking machines.
86BG - Foundation of House Atreides.
O - Foundation of The Guild.
10140AG - Duke Leto is born
10190-10191 - House Atreides moves to Arrakis.
The legend stated that the Atreides family came from a noble family that originated in Greece on Earth, and that they rose to prominence during the Butlerian Jihad. House Atreides specifically claimed descent from King Agamemnon, a son of Atreus, in Greek mythology. The descendants of Atreus are called "Atreides" (plural "Atreidai", Latinized as "Atreidae") in the Greek language. This Royal House included many significant figures in Greek myth.
Atreus was an ancient Greek King of Mycenae who bore two sons, King Agamemnon and King Menelaus. These two sons became kings in their own right, and were regarded as the "Atreides", meaning "sons of Atreus".
The Atreides name managed to be passed on throughout the ages, and along with it, its inherent nobility. This was evidenced by the fact that a noble House of the Imperium bore the Atreides name. Rulers of House Atreides were supposedly direct descendants of Agamemnon and Menelaus, the sons of Atreus.
The Grecian influence can be seen in the carvings & architecture of Caladan; it’s great to see the design team in this new adaptation have paid attention to such details.
Shai Hulud has several other names; being ‘Old Man of The Desert’, ‘Old Father Eternity’ & ‘Grandfather of the Desert’. The line Paul says whilst knelt in front of the harvester is fairly ambiguous, but it’s definitely intentionally.
The Reverend Mothers relationship to The Baron & Jessica will become more apparent in Part 2.
The Barons pet is an interesting addition; but if you remember Yueh said that his wife was taken apart like a doll……just think about that for a moment.
The kangaroo mouse we see, is know as Muad’dib & is associated to Fremen earth-spirit mythology; a shadow in the shape of a mouse is visible on the moon of Arrakis. Also the Fremen admire the creature for its ability to survive in the open desert. Muad’dib will become very important later in the story.
Sequel wise: Part 2 has been greenlit & will cover the second part of the first novel. Villeneuve has wishes to hopefully make a trilogy, with the second novel Dune Messiah being adapted for the third film.
Fun fact! They did in fact have one full-sized practical model of an ornithopter, that was used for the scene in which the worm devours the harvester. It was suspended along with the actors using cranes. It was also so heavy (11 tons!) they had to use an Antonov cargo plane (the largest cargo plane in the world) to move the model for its shoot in the desert.
Two things I wish they touched on... the first is that AI was built and destroyed in a holy Jihad thousands of years ago and the second is how they have humans called mentants that are basically humanoid calculating computers. You see one of them roll their eyes back and do a computation for the Duke during the ceremony near the beginning.
From my understanding Spice is used as a drug/substance that gives the spacing guild the ability to navigate space without running into stuff. Be it through precognition or calculation.
The movie gave you about 80% of the book which, imo, is good enough considering how the book gives you giant info dumps every chapter. It's a very good version of show not tell.
Hans zimmer did a great job with the music, as always of course
Apparently he's such a _Dune_ fan he turned down Christopher Nolan's latest movie to do this instead.
The only things I want them to do is to actually show the Emperor who is pretty important, and explain that the Bene Gesserit planted the Fremen religion long ago. They're pretty manipulative like that.
It depends how far they go, I think DV's current plan is to stop at Dune Messiah, so it seems unlikely how much time they want to invest into the planting of the Lisan-Al-Gaib stuff as I think that becomes more prominant in Children of Dune? IIRC.
@13:40, Dune is actually a subversion of the white savior trope. Paul is our protagonist but he is ultimately not a hero but a villain.
it was so cool to finally see the story that inspired so much of the sci fi that I love.
Literally can't think of anything worse than sitting uncomfortably in a well lit room trying to watch this piece of jaw dropping cinema while people are chiming in every two seconds.
They probably watched it once before, and it’s different when it’s your buds.
I thought the same 🙁.
And not watching it on the big screen just compounds it.
Right?! At least dim the lights and wear headphones.
This is one of my favorite reaction from you guys. You were all so involved and excited. I mean the material on screen is so 😍
Background spice stuff that you don't necessarily NEED to know in this first movie, but might help fill things in a bit -
Spice helps the navigators shunt large quantities of goods and people between stars, 'travel without moving' as the Lynch version put it. Spice does this by increasing mental abilities exponentially so the navigators can do their thing. Guys like Thufir and Piter (the ones whose eyes rolled back in their heads when they calculated stuff) are 'mentats' or human computers and they used spice to give themselves a brain boost. Mentats are a thing because thousands of years before the events in this film, essentially Skynet happened and 'thinking machines' came within an inch of wiping out mankind so artificial intelligence of any kind has been banned just about everywhere ever since.
Mentats receive years of special training that makes them clever alongside heavy spice consumption. Spice taken regularly by random people makes them live longer and raises their 'awareness' which can mean a stack of different things, so you know that all the rich people in this universe are gonna move heaven and earth or put up with a hell of a lot to maintain a status quo that ensures their regular consignments of spice show up at the first of the month. The emperor (who we haven't met yet) holds power because he keeps everything ticking along with the help of the Harkonnens who, as it is shown at the very beginning of the movie, are happy to get their hands dirty pulling spice out of Arrakis and don't care how many locals they have to kill to do it. The Harkonnens never even bothered to try and find out how many Fremen lived on Arrakis. The Atreides were going to try a different approach.
Harkonnens are historically awful people and everyone knows it so it's very unlikely that enough of the other ruling families would trust them enough to band together with them to try and overthrow the Emperor. Not so the Atreides, who were gaining in strength relative to the Emperor in alliances with the other houses, not just in troop strength. It would be an open secret that the Emperor helped the Harkonnens take out the Atreides but any political blowback would be outweighed by removing the Atreides from the board and severely inconveniencing the Harkonnens in the process. The other houses were not happy about these shenanigans, but as long as the spice flowed they weren't going to kick up a fuss because without spice there would be no empire at all.
In my own headcanon the Harkonnens used this opportunity to clean house on Arrakis. They clearly had trouble making Arrakis work at the best of times without killing a fuckton of people and causing a lot of damage. They did their best to ankle the Atreides' efforts there by sabotaging all the mining gear so that after they killed them all and took over on Arrakis again the Harkonnens could say, "Hey, we're the only ones who can keep the spice flowing, so fuck off."
Leto never married Jessica (she is called his concubine a couple times) because as an eligible male ruler of one of the prominent houses he might have made an advantageous marriage to someone from one of the other houses for political reasons, should an opportunity arise. The Bene Gesserit were counsellors, governesses, teachers, and concubines - whatever was needed - to the rich and powerful. They're called a religious order but it's more than that - you might draw a historical parallel with the Jesuits, up to a point. They're embedded enough that you can't buck their power but you know they have plans of their own so all you can do is hope they don't decided you are surplus to requirements, as they did Duke Leto. The Bene Gesserit train the girls of the rich and powerful in all kinds of handy things, including the Voice which you saw in this movie in addition to the neat trick of being able to decide what sex your babies are. It's brushed past quickly but Jessica was not supposed to teach Paul things like the Voice but being a mother who had a son with a powerful man she would have wanted to prepare him for anything that might happen - especially if Leto married someone else and they had kids that cut Paul out of the line of succession, which had to have been a possibility in Jessica's head. Someone was developing a Bene Gesserit TV show a while back but I haven't heard anything about it for a while. Probably it'll happen if this movie does well but I don't think we know if it'll be about events parallel to this movie or events that predate it or what.
"Dune" is fecking DENSE - that's just a taste and it's from my memory of reading the book many years ago.
@48:40, a man’s body belongs to him. But his water belongs to the tribe.
As long as you are riding a Sandworms you and your companions can use the staffs to keep it from submerging.
"Zendaya Jason Mamoa... that's what I'm here for." RIP Expectations
I went to watch Dune last night. I know nothing of the previous film, books or any of the lore. I had a quick look at the synopsis before going in. I have to say, I loved it.
can confirm this film is doing very well. Its made 40 million dollars opening weekend. Its also warner bros highest growsing opening box office since joker.
“I hope this does well in the box office”
Watches from home on a small ass screen 😂
I thought the same thing🤦🏽♂️
If we get a Dune Messiah movie, Duncan Idaho is resurrected like a frankenstein
I saw this movie in IMAX last night and honest to god it was one of the best movie going experiences of my life! And while I loved that you recorded your reactions to this movie I feel bad that this was how you first experienced this movie and not in IMAX. When the movie was over and all of us left the IMAX there was a guy who was so overwhelmed he actually needed to lie down on his back in the floor in the corner of the main lobby, swear to god. And I don’t really blame him, the vibrations from the theater were so powerful I could actually feel them in my muscles and bones.
With Arrival, Blade Runner 2049, (which are both movies you should react to) and now Dune Part One, Dennis in my opinion has now solidified himself as one of the best sci-fi and all around filmmakers of our time.
Watch part 2 in imax again as this time they filmed 100% in imax cameras
lol, "these worms must have dry-mouth all day"
I'd hope so! water is poison to them! lol
How does a living thing live without water? Also, doesn't eating people give them water?
@@bendover7841 It's fantasy, dude.
As for the use of spice in space travel: Originally they had computers, etc, to do the calculations. Then the machines went full Skynet, resulting in humanity fighting back. During the fight, they discover that the spice, in addition to extending life, can cause certain mental abilities including the ability to fold space.
Tha David Lynch movie has multiple versions, in one of them, the narrator is the same woman who narrates in the books, in the other one, it's a male narrator who was added later for the TV extended version, and which David Lynch disowned.
The redux edit from spicediver is the way to go in my opinion.
“The Incal” is being adapted by Taika Waititi. That’s a sci-fi graphic novel by Alejandro Jodorowsky. He used some of the ideas that he was going to use for his version of Dune in that book. Have any of you seen The Holy Mountain yet? It’s insane.
The voice on IMAX shook me to my core. It was intimidating, I loved it.
@@Vincent_Morrow Lol, thanks for the correction
This movie was INCREDIBLE in IMAX.
The spice gives the navigators the ability to see where a ship is going through time and space. Literally see the future and choose a path that wont end in disaster. The ships themselves have the Holtzman engine, that does the actual folding of space time. The navigators, navigate through space time with spice. Without that ability no one really knows where they'll end up and may crash into a sun or a planet.
"Why can't it be mayan?"
All the mayans here: I LOVE YOU
Paul wasn't toying with Jamis, and it's also not entirely the case that he was scared to kill, although that was part of it. Paul is also used to fighting against shielded opponents. The slow knife penetrates the shield, and a quick knife doesn't. In the desert, shields can't be used. The Fremen don't use them. So when Paul does try to do a killing blow, he does so slowly. That's a habit he'll need to unlearn if he continues to live with the Fremen and fight alongside them.
Dune is the reason stars wars exist. Or any other sci-fi movies and TV shows for that matter.
false george didn't have a single inspiration. he primarily took from the book the foundation which came out 10 years before Dune, but alot of star wars is also from taken from Kurosawa's the hidden fortress also buck rodgers
The spice must flow. And this movie flows even though that line is never used...
Dennis Villeneuve lives about 19 minutes from my place :) Quebec's pride and joy and a truly fascinating person to talk to.
Hate watching movies with friends who turn every scene and dialogue into a joke.
When a worm is being ridden they will not submerge because the rider has tools embedded in the worm's hide. It does not want to let the tools drag through the sand causing pain. To prevent this they turn moving the tools (and rider) to its top .
I just got home from an IMAX screening. It blew my mind and rattled my bones.
The one scene that stuck with me as odd throughout the movie was when the Harkonnen where using the lasgun against Duncan when he was escaping. I thought it weird because they where using the lasgun against a shielded Ornithropter. Thus the Harkonnen should know a nuke would happen to person who fired the laser and to Duncan. So why do it?
The why of the baron's condition has to do with the bene gesserit. It gets fleshed out somewhere in the prequel trilogy novels (house atreides, house harkonnen, house corrino) by Frank Herbert's son, Brian
It was released in Europe first and it nearly made its money back in 1 week. Part 2 is happening.
Dune was the inspiration of many sci-fi franchises especially star wars so there are a lot of similarities between them.
I could have easily sat through another 3 hours of this. Absolutely fantastic!
I had no clue who Timothée Chalamet was before this film. This movie makes me want to watch other movies he was involved with. He is pretty on point with Paul's mannerism, thought processes, etc. Dude is a damn good actor. He is very close to the Paul Atreides I pictured in my mind when reading the source material.
I saw a picture someone took of him reading Dune, back in 2018. He's been working on it a long time
The shields work like this. There meant to stop fast moving objects. Though if things are going slow enough the shield turns red because something is moving slow enough to pass through it
I honestly can't wait for the 2nd part and whatever is to come. I really want this to do well, because I feel like this is an epic story that needs to be told and this was very well constructed.