American Reacts The HORRIFIC Execution And Torture Of Guy Fawkes
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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He's not seen as a hero, bonfire night is in celebration of his plot failing
thats what i was wondering all along. thank you.
Have fun and be safe this weekend everyone over in the UK🥳
I remember as a young kid celebrating “Guy Fawkes Night” in Australia (the tradition being exported to the colonies from the mother country back in the day), though only by having bonfires, not burning effigies. The night has morphed a bit over the centuries, from purely a celebration of the King’s survival, then to burning effigies of Guy Fawkes, then to burning effigies of the Pope, then to burning effigies of basically anyone hated at the time, then to just an excuse to toast marshmallows and drink beer.
nz still celebrates "guy fawkes night" on nov 5th - it really is just a day for people to set off fireworks in their neighbourhood and over the years many a child has been hurt by flying or exploding crackers - no effigies or bonfires - just reckless abandon with fireworks
He's viewed for what he was, a traitor. We celebrate our freedom being saved and the preservation of democracy.
Ha and now look at the government. They are the traitors of the people. How ironic eh?
Some Catholics may view him as a martyr, because he died by trying to exterminate the Protestant king and parliament and trying to restore Catholicism to England. However, by that point in history the vast majority of people in England were Protestant and had no desire to be forcibly converted back to Catholicism. Mary I had done that in the previous century, where all those who refused to convert back to Catholicism were burnt at the stake. Her reign had only ended 47 years before 1605, and so the potential consequences of the plot were clearly understood by the vast majority of people in England at that time. Therefore Guy Fawkes was viewed as a traitor and people celebrated because the plot had failed. It is now 416 years since those times and so over time the religious overtones and aspects have been completely lost and the night just remains as a night of celebration for everyone to enjoy the fireworks, bonfires and time with family and friends.
Who'd have thought they'd be such things as terrorists 400 years ago, If you think about it, it's no different to what the likes of ISIS and the Taliban are doing these days
Perhaps even more horrific was the execution of François Ravaillac, the assassin of King Henri IV. of France. (This event took place in 1610). He was first publicly tortured with pliers (explicit targets: arms, legs and nipples), his right hand, with which he had killed the king, was burned in a fire, then the wounds (!) from the pliers were filled with molten lead and finally, he was quartered by horses. Mind you that he was still alive during the whole process... Humans can be monsters.
Had a bonfire tonight, bangers, rockets, sparklers , the lot, tatties on the fire, had the grandbairns round, no guy fawlks though
A few inaccuracies here but at least you got to hear about "Caffolics" and the "fing" *shakes head in despair*
The diction and accuracy of this narrator is so poor that I’ve had to abandon this. There’s much better explanation.
I would take some of this with a pinch of salt. As you heard his 2nd torture was stretching which would have broken his bones and torn his muscles. With that in mind, how likely would it be for him to be able to climb a ladder to the gallows. Also the narrator is confusing the word drawn with the expression horse drawn. In this case drawn meant disemboweled into a fire whilst his bowel was still attached. It’s plausible he would have wanted to kill himself prior to this but I doubt the rostrum would have been high enough that death was guaranteed or even likely.
I read somewhere (& I am very sorry that I cannot remember where) that because of his time on the rack, that Fawkes had died on his way to the gallows. That time on the rack, as you so elegantly put it, would've broken his shoulders, arms, elbows, wrists, hips, knees & ankles! Just being stretched out 4" on the rack would've been enough to do all of that. & he was on there for at least a day.
Probably should mention that the current Houses of Parliament are not the same as in Guy Fawkes time as they burnt down in the 1830's. The current palace was built in the late 1830's.
Yeah, some lord told some nder secretary to burn some old documents, and the fires got so hot that it got out of hand very quickly, and eventually it all burnt down.
He would have sent us back into the dark ages if he wiped out the royal family all the member's of parliament the entire system all under one roof. Imagine how many people would have been killed in the aftermath the power struggle that would have ensuied would have turned us into savages just because one guy probably had some brain rot and went crazy. That's why we celebrate it every year we don't celebrate the way he was tortured or the manner in which he died we celebrate a close call essentially
Exactly, not a martyr just a demented fanatic. 👍🇬🇧
The execution and torture was just a bit of banter mate. I mean the CIA still does it 😎
Guy Fawkes is from my town of York, you can visit his school and the church where he was baptised. The last days of guy fawkes is a really good docudrama that really brings this subject to life. The subject of the suggested video Margaret Clitheroe is also from York her house is a holy shrine now and the Bar convent museum still has her preserved hand.
I believe Guy Fawkes house is now a hotel
"Capital Punishment", with emphasis on the latter.
He's NOT a martyr. We celebrate his death, burning effigies on bonfires to this day. England, since Henry VIII has been a protestant (Church of England) County. I'm sure you've heard of the King James bible!
Exactly, couldn't agree more. Well said! It's videos like this that give Britain a bad name. The Cody Bonds video The Origins Of Bonfire Night is the best, have asked him to react to it, not sure if he will though lol.
Whats interesting to note is that torture methods have not changed much. We can just keep prisoners alive longer now to prolong the suffering. Sometimes it works
On the 5th no matter where you are in the country you can hear or see fireworks
I have copied this from the UK Parliament site and it explains what still happens nowadays for the State Opening of Parliament, including the taking of an MP hostage.
State Opening: Elements unseen by the public
Some of the most well-known elements of the State Opening take place out of the public eye.
Before the Sovereign's arrival at parliament, the Yeomen of the Guard, the royal bodyguards, ceremonially search the cellars of the Palace of Westminster for explosives.
This commemorates Guy Fawkes's ‘gunpowder plot' of 1605 - a failed attempt by English Catholics to blow up the Protestant King James I and Parliament.
Another reminder of the violence and intrigue historically surrounding relationships between the Commons and the Crown is the fact that a Member of the Commons is ceremonially held hostage in Buckingham Palace while the Sovereign attends the Palace, to ensure her safe return.
This tradition stems from the time of Charles I, who had a contentious relationship with Parliament and was eventually beheaded in 1649 at the conclusion of a civil war between the monarchy and Parliament.
The hostage is usually the Vice-Chamberlain of the Household - that is, an MP whose office makes him or her officially a member of the Royal Household and, simultaneously, a junior Whip for the Government.
Apparently the 5 November was celebrated in New England for many years.
I can't see how he was caught with a box of matches in his pocket considering they wasn't invented until 1805 by Jean Chancel in Paris two hundred years later..
Your thinking of what we today would consider a match, as in a "Safety" match lit by friction. Matches, have been around for a long time. Sulfur-based matches are mentioned as far back as the 1200s in texts of the time, and in the 1600s a process involving drawing sulfur matches through dried phosphorus-soaked paper was devised. You are correct that matches were not common and not available to the general public, unless they were wealthy and educated enough to obtain the chemicals and use them correctly (BIG bang if you don't). I think it would be fare to assume that Guy Fawkes, being a gun powder and explosives expert would have knowledge and access to the chemicals needed to have a 'match' in his pocket.
@@KernowWarrior, actually in the time of Guy Fawkes, a 'match' was what it had been for centuries in England - a long piece of plaited cord, impregnated with chemicals and wax to enable it to slow burn - like a slow fuse - just like the ones used to fire cannons and early firearms.
The word 'match' came into England with the Norman Conquest, from the Old French word 'meche' which meant 'wick'.
Our modern word 'match' comes from this.
He definitely didn't have a box of matches.
@@KernowWarrior He would of had a lantern with him to see his way, (17th century , on no electric lights), easy enough to light a flame from that.
@@Robr1701 I dunno, if I was hiding out I don't think i'd have a bright lantern with me highlighting my position....
@@KernowWarrior Fawkes and the other plotters had leased a room in the cellar of the Parliament buildings ,so he had access and reason to be there, he just didn't know that the plot had been betrayed and the authorities were looking for him.
I'm going to a huge display tonight bonfire night/weekend is huge across the uk
It's strange, as children we'd make a "guy" by stuffing clothes to make a "man" put a mask on it and ask passers-by "penny for a guy" we'd make a fortune especially outside pubs as drunk punters would be quite generous lol, then the "guy" would be chucked on top of the bonfire, we never gave much thought to this tradition, ironically I'm Catholic 🤣
I know one area where it was a guy of the Pope and they used to charge a penny to ‘kick the Pope’ before he was flung on the bonfire.
@@thomasferguson5478 omg, I shouldn't laugh but 🤣🤣🤣
@@mojokg13 I know, my family are Catholics probably the only ones on the Island but they just laughed 😂
My wife is related to Ambrose Rookwood, he was Hung Drawn and Quartered for his involvement in the Gun Powder Plot
He didn’t jump to his death. He couldn’t walk due to the torture his body went through on the wrack. He died as he was carried up the steps to the gallows.
Fun fact: After this the name Guy was used when you wished to insult a man, Eg: 'He is such a lazy guy!' as the years went by it was seen as a less of an insult and just seemed to be a term for a man in general. The term died out in Britain, but the term continued in North America and reintroduced back to the British in the late twentieth century!
In all fairness, it was pretty well established by this point what the punishment for treachery would be.
it was king charles who stated that on the 5 november every area should have a bonfire and a guy burned to show their loyalty to the king
It is seen as salvation of the establishment, he was seen as a traitor, also the others.
Most people in England would not know all that history, they would just think it's a night that you let off fireworks,.
we've been doing it that long the meaning might have been lost, like Christmas
I remember being taught about it as school - and my children were taught it too.
Its so funny seeing an american being uncomfortable by this. Us English learn about this in history when we are kids haha
Matches did not exist in Guido Fawkes' day. Nov 5th. is a celebration that Fawkes and his mates failed.
Your thinking of what we today would consider a match, as in a "Safety" match lit by friction. Matches, have been around for a long time. Sulfur-based matches are mentioned as far back as the 1200s in texts of the time, and in the 1600s a process involving drawing sulfur matches through dried phosphorus-soaked paper was devised. You are correct that matches were not common and not available to the general public, unless they were wealthy and educated enough to obtain the chemicals and use them correctly (BIG bang if you don't). I think it would be fare to assume that Guy Fawkes, being a gun powder and explosives expert would have knowledge and access to the chemicals needed to have a 'match' in his pocket.
He deserved everything he got. To even imagine the traitors succeeding is horrifying.
My dog is scared to death on bonfire nights! x
My last boy was too, it was awful, as much as I tried to help him over the years he was still terrified of the booming fireworks going on for a blooming month 😥 thankfully my current dog is mostly deaf so doesn't care 🤦🏻♀️
@@melscienerf5977 that's good to hear. x
The whole world would have been different.
To answer your question about how Guy Fawkes is viewed, and what the nature of the celebration is:
The celebration was because parliament and the King survived. It was actually the government who first ordered celebrations to take place, putting the onus on local churches to arrange local celebrations under the Observation of 5th November Act 1605. So originally it was very much a celebration that the plot failed and we had a stable government. For the majority of English people, who were protestant, these celebrations were well-received and became popular enough traditions that the Act was repealed and the celebrations continued.
Fast-forward 4 centuries and most people today - while having a fairly basic understanding of the background of the celebrations - don't really care much about the historical nuances and just want to set stuff on fire and watch some fireworks (nothing wrong with that). But among those who still care about the history, it's a bit of a controversial question today. I know some people who do see Guy Fawkes as a kind of martyr (and will say tropes like 'he was the only person to enter parliament with good intentions'), which I personally find quite sad when I think about everything that parliament achieved over the centuries in establishing freedoms throughout the English-speaking world (and even much of the non-English-speaking world). But at the same time a lot of people still make a 'guy' effigy and throw him on the bonfire to celebrate his failure.
Other people also make effigies of modern political figures to burn, like the effigy of Boris Johnson that was burned in London during last night's protests. And Guy Fawkes can sometimes be used to represent certain anti-government movements, though a lot of that is spurned on by the V for Vendetta film as much as actual history (hence the masks from the film being equally popular). There's a popular website named after Guido Fawkes which has quite a libertarian take on his legacy and often gets hold of confidential documents and leaks them to damage the government.
Everyone knows the basic story of Guy Fawkes, but no ones thinking about it mate. He’s neither a martyr or a villain to anyone (though I quite like what he did as an English catholic), it’s just an excuse to light fires and for chavs to set fireworks off from their arse cracks thus ending up in a&e. A busy pain of a night for the emergency services. I used to enjoy going to a bonfire and going to fairgrounds as a kid, but I’ve just spent the night indoors annoyed at the constant banging of fireworks.
You like that he was willing to kill hundreds, he was a fanatic who didn't care about human life only his belief. An extremist.
Traitor.
@@neilgayleard3842 what are you on about. I simply asked a simple question. Unless you agree with the assassination of hundreds of people and forcing a 9yr old princess (King James' daughter) to marry a grown man just so a countries religion can change.
We would have been, but our wonderful Government put a stop to all public bonfires and fireworks displays. Why, because they might be a rise in Covid cases. Which are government say it better to be outside than inside.
Plenty of bonfires and fireworks around here last night.
Public displays were banned for one year at the height of the pandemic, during lockdown. There was no restriction on celebrations in back gardens - which is what we do every year anyway.
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We Should Still Have Exaqution Today For Traitors The Crown, Such As The Discussting Pariste In 10,!!! Downing Street In May 1997, Who I Do Not Under Any Circumstances Want To Meantion, That's Not Human, It Claimed To Be Prodistent,!???? BUT As Soon As It Left Downing Street In June 2007, It Became A Chathlic,!!! BUT This Is What You Can Expect From Croupt Labour In The UK,
Since when folks say he’s a traitor who failed (like it or lump it.) , just because Facebook hackers and a film V (made up comic hero) he must be a hero.
Bonfire night as always been for long time about fun,fireworks beer and was always was loosely based on a plot.
He’s never been a hero or villain. (Keyboard Wikipedia let try make the past something it not ) it’s a Just a Guy Fawkes. (Stuffed straw mannequin - hence the saying straw between his ears for a stupid or person who fails spectacularly)
It can be Any effigy local or current to the date or year gets burnt. He’s was never a hero and mainly celebrated in England thou other bonfires around the time (Halloween) are lit in Ireland / Scotland without effigies.
bonfire night was “mischievous night” a annual with bonfires in England altered to celebrate the failed regal assassination. Date 5th November nothing more nothing less. , but if guy falkes had succeeded nothing would have changed except a lot more deaths , wars, persecution
MAIN THING IS... KEEP YOUR PETS IN SAFE . be responsible with fireworks or go to a sponsor organised event.
This video is not a good one it make out that attempting to murder hundreds is to be a martyr, also the match was invented 200 after fawlkes died. Please react to the video by CODY BONDS "The Origins Of Bonfire Night". He tells the truth of the murderous plot to kill the whole royal family and take out the entire government who were all in parliament. He also tells how he was treated and shows pictures of Fawlkes signature and the lantern he had with him, with is in the British Museum. Top gear also did a test of the amount of powder he had and it would have blown up the entire building and more. Hundreds would have been killed, Guy Fawkes was a medieval terrorist. Please react to the Cody Bonds video it is one of the best. Keep the reactions coming, loving both channels. ,😁🇬🇧
Your thinking of what we today would consider a match, as in a "Safety" match lit by friction. Matches, have been around for a long time. Sulfur-based matches are mentioned as far back as the 1200s in texts of the time, and in the 1600s a process involving drawing sulfur matches through dried phosphorus-soaked paper was devised. You are correct that matches were not common and not available to the general public, unless they were wealthy and educated enough to obtain the chemicals and use them correctly (BIG bang if you don't). I think it would be fare to assume that Guy Fawkes, being a gun powder and explosives expert would have knowledge and access to the chemicals needed to have a 'match' in his pocket.
@@KernowWarrior I see your point, and do agree with it, haha. However all he needed was a taper to light from his lantern to light the fuses. This video he reacted to isn't exactly telling the whole story, so makes him out to be a martyr instead of an extremist intent on killing hundreds of people, and it also didn't cover why we celebrate it, the makers only made it for the shock value, not historical accuracy.
RUclips history videos are very often agenda driven and stupid as hell. They can be more dangerous than educational.
Yes he was a traitor, that was acceptable treatment then , we have gone the other way now treat them like hero's!
As to the what if he'd succeeded in destroying the monarchy and government- well the answer is simple... We'd be France lol
I would normally press the like button, as I do to all your reactions, but this video was misleading. My apologies, but can't exactly like a reaction when the video your watching is giving out information that is false and misleading on at least half of it. Even details on their executions were wrong. It also doesn't explain why we celebrate it. Please watch other ones, this channel the video is from always does this, it likes to glorify and shock but doesn't ever explain details and gives false information.
So the origin of suicide bombers is an English thing not , well, you know.......
Wouldn't of been a suicide bomber, his fuses once lit at midnight would take 8 hour to explode. So he had hours to get out.... once they were light of course. So not an English thing, still... you know 😉