Glad to see nowa on here. I keep seeing people saying he’s bad or meh/mediocre. He’s always been a very clear S tier to me. Anyone that can equip a path and pinnacle rune simultaneously I can’t see as bad. He’s got good stats. Good rune slots. Good sp skills. Chain smash can crit and it’s only 1 sp. he was in my party through the whole game. Yea he’s not on the level of momo or leene, but they’re very clearly broken. Nowa is a solid S tier character.
That's what I'm saying! He's great, just has to be in the frontline and set up correctly. Wish more characters had more rune options, it's so hindering.
@@zutchkorr3056 yea rune slots are what really hurt a lot of characters. I wish everyone had at least one unique attack skill too. Hopefully in maybe a patch or in the sequel they fix some things. Id like to see magic have reduced mp cost by a lot. There’s no reason mages shouldn’t be able to cast spells until a boss fight. Seign being able to use lightning rush more often would be a lot more fun but that move is like 80 or 90mp. They also need to fix the damage calculation on hero combos and make them do more damage in general. Having to have unique team comps to use them as well as have the sp is enough of a balance to let them do more damage.
@@MADma3str0 But there are 3, 4, and 6 combination. It makes sense if the 2 combination is not that strong, but with Friendship/Senior combo with 500+ damage per hit is already strong. You're not satisfied yet? Or perhaps you want to 1 hit every enemies you encounter, man that's boring.
Iugo reminds me of Rikimaru from Suikoden 2 , you find him hungry laying on ground you feed him and he quickly becomes one of the strongest characters in entire game , also my favourite was dog Shiro from suikoden 2
Tried a meme nowa build and it’s actually not bad. Switched all his runes for magic. So high magic and arcane magic runes. Mages path and pinnacle. Searing blast wave did 1400 damage on the ancient seed boss in endless. And the same damage against the first wolf encounter on that floor. After storm front buff, swinging slash did 600 damage +900 on the bear rider encounter. 1500 damage on a “mage” build with a physical attack is hilarious. Nowa might be one of the most flexible characters in the game. And he can still attack the front row of enemies while maintaining the pinnacle buff in the back row.
Yesss fellow Isha enjoyer! I do use Momo too because she is just so OP, but there's nothing like free stronger row damage from Isha's rune every 3 turns.
Pretty much the op tier list XD. Btw id replace the black knight with black dragon. He is freaking op in both clearing and single target , incredibly tanky and can help reduce enemy aoe damage casualty
Chandra? Solid character! I don't find Reyna OP, she's just good at covering teammates that have Warrior's Path rune on and preventing them from dying. Iugo or Dijkstra could replace her fairly easily.
@@zutchkorr3056didn't think I'd care for Reyna since she is defense based but I was SO wrong. Now she sits in my front line blocking the majority of front row attacks and still has enough damage to kill mobs with her counters.
I can second this. I loved mios style but she seemed so weak. Now she is a staple on my team for the Endless runs. Her nickname is "The God Killer." she basically one shots every boss in the tower with her rune attack.
Good top ten list imo just want to add honorable mention with yusuke and francesca for characters you get very early in the game they are powerful compared to others but easily get overshadowed by endgame
@@oggregster thank you! I wish they could have stayed more viable at the end. They're such great characters with cool designs. Loved their interactions when they were in the party.
Apart from Mio's weird placement, which is still understandable, there is one thing I really can't agree on and it's Reyna being in the top ten at all. Really not dying is all she does. Most high tier characters will do 3 to 4 times her damage and still not die. Nil definitely deserves that spot.
I would use her as a back up tank sometimes and throw Dijkstra in the back with Firefly rune to pull as much aggro as possible (and maybe cover) from the character using Warrior's Path and a Pinnacle runes.
@@eljo8963rune of mighty power X 2 > rune of the warriors pinnacle > rune of tremendous power. With that loadout she can put out 3k damage using Dijkstras buff.
I think it's a good list. If you want to easily progress through endless dungeon (I stopped at flor 52 myself) - you only need 4 core characters (since other 2 you must sub every floor) and lots of substitute mages with Earth magic that makes party immune to damage. Basically the idea is - do fk ton damage and kill enemy before they can make a move - and for bosses - depends on situation - use Earth Immunity magic once - and then nuke it in 2 max 3 turns. My core 4 was : Nowa - an A+ with good damage and defense, can go for up to 1,7k when critting - more if go for glass cannon build Dijkstra - S tier - best buffer in the game Momo - S+ tier - glass cannon build with over 600 hp and 900 magic - hitting like a truck for up to 2,5k when critting, also capable of healing and casting immunity spells Leene - she is in her own tier - extremely fast - she can hit single target (boss) for up to 3,5k and go for up to 20k-25k on 6 trash mobs with her skill attack without using mana. There is nothing that comes close. She single-handedly wipes trash waves in Endless dungeon and has like 60% overall damage done to the bosses. I used glass cannon build with def/mdef less than 100 - offsetting it with 970 strength and 750 hp. Bit risky still but after you get Hero accessory - she can use her skill every trash wave.
Thank you! I might have been bias but I liked the characters because they're good! It's a shame more characters can't be viable on that level. You hit the nail on the head with that lineup and the strategy. There really isn't much point going really deep in Endless Mode other than the challenge. I wouldn't want my game to crash in the middle of all that, haha. Solid stuff though! I love seeing what other people use and the versatility.
@@Michal.Jaworski thank you! Great core 4! Very similar to mine. I have many people that aren't in the main party with water and earth runes, wish you could keep 6 in Endless Mode but 4 is plenty.
Interesting list ! I have a question, for physical / crit characters, what made you go for crits/luck buff instead of damage ? For example with Iugo you went with one critical hit buff and one luck buff while you gave Mio 2 damages buff and a crit buff
@@drixm9358 each playthrough, you can get 3 of each Primordial armor piece. Doing Endless Mode is where you find the last of them, just up to 26 floors. I have a video on the locations if you missed those. I can link it if you need it. Rune of Clairvoyance: ruclips.net/video/OyOEb7XlWDg/видео.htmlsi=hzSukec6EzzhB15c
I'm almost at the end of my 2nd playthrough with normal leveled characters. I will highly consider doing this. Leene isn't really good until you start farming the best runes anyways.
Yeah they are! I don't have the Steam version of the game, but I saw mods are a thing now. It would be cool to replay it with everyone more balanced out.
you can practically stack lots of atk boosting rune on her, can equip both path and pinnacle rune as well. So all of that damage is based on her high atk stat (boosted by runes, can hit almost 1k)
@@zutchkorr3056 leene is so op I got her with a power over 1000 kills pretty much all enemies including bosses on the first round sometimes the second even on hard mode
Nope, it's from an NPC that goes to each story event town/city, starting in Hishahn. It's not missable but he can be hard to spot. His name is Sayid Ali, he'll eventually show up at HQ by the hotsprings and give you the rune.
@@zutchkorr3056 Bro, the same thing with hp. The adds do to much damage, the magic cost to much mana not allowing u to maximize a well built team. Its all over balanced or nothing. But brings no real quality to a real rpg. Especially comparing this to a real suikoden game. That game was a work of art at every level. This was fun, but still sub par.
@@zutchkorr3056 yeh dude, i mean end game adds 1 shottin our mages lol skipping our tanks and everything. Meanwhile tanks taking 0 to 1 damage even at the beginning of the game lol roflol.
Too strong, it doesn't make sense anymore. There's no way to enjoy the game's difficulty with that builds and level. And the game is too short compare to Suikoden II.
Quite a few characters are overtuned while others not so much. I say play whoever you enjoy regardless of metas (in every game). Suikoden still has their fair share of broken characters but does feel rather balanced for the most part.
Glad to see nowa on here. I keep seeing people saying he’s bad or meh/mediocre. He’s always been a very clear S tier to me. Anyone that can equip a path and pinnacle rune simultaneously I can’t see as bad. He’s got good stats. Good rune slots. Good sp skills. Chain smash can crit and it’s only 1 sp. he was in my party through the whole game. Yea he’s not on the level of momo or leene, but they’re very clearly broken. Nowa is a solid S tier character.
That's what I'm saying! He's great, just has to be in the frontline and set up correctly. Wish more characters had more rune options, it's so hindering.
@@zutchkorr3056 yea rune slots are what really hurt a lot of characters. I wish everyone had at least one unique attack skill too. Hopefully in maybe a patch or in the sequel they fix some things. Id like to see magic have reduced mp cost by a lot. There’s no reason mages shouldn’t be able to cast spells until a boss fight. Seign being able to use lightning rush more often would be a lot more fun but that move is like 80 or 90mp.
They also need to fix the damage calculation on hero combos and make them do more damage in general. Having to have unique team comps to use them as well as have the sp is enough of a balance to let them do more damage.
@@MADma3str0 But there are 3, 4, and 6 combination. It makes sense if the 2 combination is not that strong, but with Friendship/Senior combo with 500+ damage per hit is already strong. You're not satisfied yet? Or perhaps you want to 1 hit every enemies you encounter, man that's boring.
Iugo reminds me of Rikimaru from Suikoden 2 , you find him hungry laying on ground you feed him and he quickly becomes one of the strongest characters in entire game , also my favourite was dog Shiro from suikoden 2
I love that comparison! Shiro is the best doggo.
@zutchkorr3056 at the moment I'm struggling to beat beigoma champion to recruit Reid
@@Ashayia1986 boost at the same time as the opponent and mash the button. Also make sure you're using tops that counter the opponent's.
@@zutchkorr3056 I am trying to find legendary ones
@@Ashayia1986 the area you recruit Dijkstra has 3 of the best you can find.
Tried a meme nowa build and it’s actually not bad. Switched all his runes for magic. So high magic and arcane magic runes. Mages path and pinnacle. Searing blast wave did 1400 damage on the ancient seed boss in endless. And the same damage against the first wolf encounter on that floor. After storm front buff, swinging slash did 600 damage +900 on the bear rider encounter. 1500 damage on a “mage” build with a physical attack is hilarious. Nowa might be one of the most flexible characters in the game. And he can still attack the front row of enemies while maintaining the pinnacle buff in the back row.
I thought about doing that, but I didn't think it would go well. I guess I'm wrong, haha.
Yesss fellow Isha enjoyer! I do use Momo too because she is just so OP, but there's nothing like free stronger row damage from Isha's rune every 3 turns.
She's too good with all those options!
Agreed. Isha a must.
@@g.joelmoore3283 she's a fan favorite for sure.
Momos a boy my guy.
@@deejmateo832 referring to Isha. Momo has made his mark and it is well known
Leene is so OP, the rest of the party just need to buff her.
Pretty much the op tier list XD. Btw id replace the black knight with black dragon. He is freaking op in both clearing and single target , incredibly tanky and can help reduce enemy aoe damage casualty
Chandra? Solid character! I don't find Reyna OP, she's just good at covering teammates that have Warrior's Path rune on and preventing them from dying. Iugo or Dijkstra could replace her fairly easily.
@@zutchkorr3056didn't think I'd care for Reyna since she is defense based but I was SO wrong. Now she sits in my front line blocking the majority of front row attacks and still has enough damage to kill mobs with her counters.
Mio??? Interesting!
Since the beginning of the game, I've been surprised to find her so bad. I told myself that maybe I hadn't understood something.
Early game she is pretty bad. Makes a better healer at that point. Late game... she's amazing!
I can second this. I loved mios style but she seemed so weak. Now she is a staple on my team for the Endless runs. Her nickname is "The God Killer." she basically one shots every boss in the tower with her rune attack.
Good top ten list imo just want to add honorable mention with yusuke and francesca for characters you get very early in the game they are powerful compared to others but easily get overshadowed by endgame
@@oggregster thank you! I wish they could have stayed more viable at the end. They're such great characters with cool designs. Loved their interactions when they were in the party.
Apart from Mio's weird placement, which is still understandable, there is one thing I really can't agree on and it's Reyna being in the top ten at all. Really not dying is all she does. Most high tier characters will do 3 to 4 times her damage and still not die. Nil definitely deserves that spot.
I would use her as a back up tank sometimes and throw Dijkstra in the back with Firefly rune to pull as much aggro as possible (and maybe cover) from the character using Warrior's Path and a Pinnacle runes.
Mio is pretty awful in early game, but man she hits hard in endgame.
I think almost every charge up characters are good as well.
I just replayed for Nowa for 2nd warriors path / pinnacle character outside of his sister. Crazy Mio still hits harder
Nice! Siblings ruling the battlefield. Mio is insane, I don't care what anyone says, haha.
But mio is insane only at what.. lv 70+..? 80+? Im at ard lv 65 and she still didnt hit as hard..
@@eljo896360+ you’ll see an increase imo she starts standing out in the mid 70s then after 80s she becomes the main single target dealer.
@@eljo8963rune of mighty power X 2 > rune of the warriors pinnacle > rune of tremendous power.
With that loadout she can put out 3k damage using Dijkstras buff.
Sad to see no one uses Kogen. He is my finisher. That hail of flails attack erases any enemy line in one shot.
I did in my current playthrough! He's a beast!
I think it's a good list. If you want to easily progress through endless dungeon (I stopped at flor 52 myself) - you only need 4 core characters (since other 2 you must sub every floor) and lots of substitute mages with Earth magic that makes party immune to damage. Basically the idea is - do fk ton damage and kill enemy before they can make a move - and for bosses - depends on situation - use Earth Immunity magic once - and then nuke it in 2 max 3 turns.
My core 4 was :
Nowa - an A+ with good damage and defense, can go for up to 1,7k when critting - more if go for glass cannon build
Dijkstra - S tier - best buffer in the game
Momo - S+ tier - glass cannon build with over 600 hp and 900 magic - hitting like a truck for up to 2,5k when critting, also capable of healing and casting immunity spells
Leene - she is in her own tier - extremely fast - she can hit single target (boss) for up to 3,5k and go for up to 20k-25k on 6 trash mobs with her skill attack without using mana.
There is nothing that comes close. She single-handedly wipes trash waves in Endless dungeon and has like 60% overall damage done to the bosses. I used glass cannon build with def/mdef less than 100 - offsetting it with 970 strength and 750 hp. Bit risky still but after you get Hero accessory - she can use her skill every trash wave.
Thank you! I might have been bias but I liked the characters because they're good! It's a shame more characters can't be viable on that level.
You hit the nail on the head with that lineup and the strategy. There really isn't much point going really deep in Endless Mode other than the challenge. I wouldn't want my game to crash in the middle of all that, haha. Solid stuff though! I love seeing what other people use and the versatility.
I got exhausted at 52 too and just felt tired and exhausted. how many levels really are there?
@@drixm9358 I think it's literally endless. I made it a little over 100 and had to quit out from boredom, haha.
@@Michal.Jaworski thank you! Great core 4! Very similar to mine. I have many people that aren't in the main party with water and earth runes, wish you could keep 6 in Endless Mode but 4 is plenty.
Interesting list !
I have a question, for physical / crit characters, what made you go for crits/luck buff instead of damage ?
For example with Iugo you went with one critical hit buff and one luck buff while you gave Mio 2 damages buff and a crit buff
Luck helps with evasion and crits. So it's perfect for Iugo to evade and counter (and crit).
Will we have a video of a team made up of the 6 characters from this top tier?
Yeah, I can make a top tier team. People won't agree with it, but oh well, haha.
@@zutchkorr3056 I'm assuming its that team you have Leene in at the end
Its kinda suck to see best hero recruit at the postgame like leene and momo because i always play at early until end.
Yeah, I wish more characters were on their level. Maybe some patches can power creep the other characters...? Doubt it
hi, how do you get more primordial? im in endless now and i got exhausted at floor 51 and quit. also how do you get rune of clairvoyance?
@@drixm9358 each playthrough, you can get 3 of each Primordial armor piece. Doing Endless Mode is where you find the last of them, just up to 26 floors. I have a video on the locations if you missed those. I can link it if you need it.
Rune of Clairvoyance: ruclips.net/video/OyOEb7XlWDg/видео.htmlsi=hzSukec6EzzhB15c
Where to farm tremendous power and pinacle?
ruclips.net/video/e3czeTb8hio/видео.htmlsi=S5V2aNa3pRUOuVmK
hey what about yusuke, i think he's awesome too...
He is awesome! Definitely in my top 15, since he's so good up to a certain point.
Don't you like Heroes Combo?
I want to but they just aren't that strong in this game. Suikoden made me want to synergize characters but Eiyuden makes it feel kinda terrible.
@@zutchkorr3056So easy to be crazy powerful without them. Iugo is beast, Isha a must.
where can you get rune of clairvoyance?
I think I'm gonna make a video on it, but it requires starting over
Was it glitch on Leene or am I dumb? It was saying her strength was on 107, even after all the tremendous power runes
Glitch, you'll see another number amongst the stats that shouldn't be there, haha
@@zutchkorr3056 so it's just because it's above 999 ?
@@geex5857 correct, see the 4 mixed in behind the other numbers? It's suppose to be at the end of strength stat, haha
How you get the second warrior of path??
NG+ and get CJ again
That’s nuts knowing nowa can be replaced in the party. HES THE MAIN CHARACTER!!! lol
Yup! I think it's kinda cool but he should be OP as well.
can you recommend a good team without momo or leene for clearing normal mode at mysterious room?
I'm almost at the end of my 2nd playthrough with normal leveled characters. I will highly consider doing this. Leene isn't really good until you start farming the best runes anyways.
Yusuke and Iugo for Damage Dealer, Dijkstra and Shixeen for Boost damage, Isha and Falward for healing sometimes
@@aominedaiki5916 Shixeen just boosts armor damage. Very niche buff but at least it's there if you want it.
Im just using chandra and reyna in front and just random in the backlines.
"You paired me with Gardestein"?
It's a trap
I still can't recruit Lam in Switch.
I'm sorry to hear. I wish I had a solution but I played on ps5 mostly and then ps4 for comparison reasons.
@@zutchkorr3056 it's okay. I wish i bought the ps5 version.
How to get rune clairvoyance?
The answer should be further down the comments on this video.
How do you build mio mine hits like a wet noodle
@@chance7317 2:20 shows my gear and runes with her
@@chance7317 hit like a truck after that, no more noodles unless it's for lunch. 😁
@@zutchkorr3056 thank you. Really appreciate the response! Keep up the amazing work!
where to find ruby bangle?
ruclips.net/video/ZzUTqNSV8nk/видео.htmlsi=cv3alqBj3Jf7fPKZ
@@zutchkorr3056 ok thank you
Momo and Leene are so broken
Yeah they are! I don't have the Steam version of the game, but I saw mods are a thing now. It would be cool to replay it with everyone more balanced out.
How could leene make that much of damage ? Base on what stat ?
Strength, the number is glitched out since it's over 999
you can practically stack lots of atk boosting rune on her, can equip both path and pinnacle rune as well. So all of that damage is based on her high atk stat (boosted by runes, can hit almost 1k)
@@zutchkorr3056 yea, it's like 98x before accessories
@@zutchkorr3056 leene is so op I got her with a power over 1000 kills pretty much all enemies including bosses on the first round sometimes the second even on hard mode
@@54DARRYL that's how it's done!
Where do you get rune of Clairvoyance? Is it from endless mode?
Nope, it's from an NPC that goes to each story event town/city, starting in Hishahn. It's not missable but he can be hard to spot. His name is Sayid Ali, he'll eventually show up at HQ by the hotsprings and give you the rune.
@@zutchkorr3056So it's only 1 Rune available?
@@satriobeekrazy949 per playthrough, correct. I had to swap it off characters to others :^/
I already meeting Sayid Ali at hotsprings but not yet get those rune.. can you confirm again when get those rune?
@@rullyprasidwibawa6409 you'll have to find him twice at HQ. I don't remember the exact order of the towns/cities.
Auto setting guide please?
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I pretty much know who’s your top 2 are.. 😅 but I was shocked you didn’t put Mio in your top 3..
Haha, needed to be the tank who buffs everyone.
yeah, Dijkstra deserves it.. by the way, why did you put a fire enchantment rune on reyna? Just curious..
That's all she could equip in that slot was magic/enchantments...hate that they did that to her and Yusuke.
I see.. Either that or Water Rune for emergency healing or Earth rune for curing.. Though I’m not sure if you need curing at the end game..
Items more so, hence Dijkstra with the Super Lucky Badge hoarding up all the healing items. Save that MP!
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Dude it just aint worthing using any magic. They never give u enough mana. Easier to get a full ad team.
You can use MP recovery items. They're plentiful if you have someone with the Super Lucky Badge equipped.
@@zutchkorr3056 Bro, the same thing with hp. The adds do to much damage, the magic cost to much mana not allowing u to maximize a well built team. Its all over balanced or nothing. But brings no real quality to a real rpg. Especially comparing this to a real suikoden game. That game was a work of art at every level. This was fun, but still sub par.
Yeah, Eiyuden needs a bit of patching and balancing to say the least...
@@zutchkorr3056 yeh dude, i mean end game adds 1 shottin our mages lol skipping our tanks and everything. Meanwhile tanks taking 0 to 1 damage even at the beginning of the game lol roflol.
@@Eyezthrulies haha, it's a wild ride going through this game. I love it but wish they would FIX IT!
Too strong, it doesn't make sense anymore. There's no way to enjoy the game's difficulty with that builds and level. And the game is too short compare to Suikoden II.
Quite a few characters are overtuned while others not so much. I say play whoever you enjoy regardless of metas (in every game). Suikoden still has their fair share of broken characters but does feel rather balanced for the most part.
Game is too easy ,no challanges
100% it?
@@zutchkorr3056 few more card matches for plat