You should be paid by Grizzly and several other companies that sell planers. This was an outstanding video and I really appreciate your work and will continue to use your knowledge
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. We are about to install one on our 16" Jet. I took screenshots and turned your video into a PDF instruction packet we could use in the shop, since WiFi doesn't work well out there. I think this will be invaluable!
Great video, well done. A tip for re- assembly, put the shafts/bearings in the freezer, then use a small pin nozzle butane torch..( not a blowtorch) to heat the bearing seats slightly. It will go together like butter, but you have to work quickly. For the single bearing on the far end of the cutter, you could place the place the entire gearbox/cutter I. The freezer, or get a can of electronics cold shot, freeze the bearing, again warm the seat with the mini torch and it'll go together no heavy hammering needed. I do this all the time at my job as a field service engineer, a very old machinist trick that works awesome. Just a little cooling/heating in the right spots goes a looooong way!...and obviously, your using an open flame....use your head!!!!
Had no idea there was, that much work required to change cutter, this video is certainly going to make the process So much easier. Brilliant the way you have gone through the whole process so clearly. Thank you so much for taking you time to record and produce amazing installation
Thank you so much for going to the effort of recording this in so much detail, its so comprehensive. I’ve had a shellix cutter head sitting in its box for years, probably 12 years or more. I couldn’t find anyone to fit it for me and didn’t have the confidence to do it myself. I have a 15 inch Jet planer and it now has the shellix cutter installed - it never would have happened without your video. Thank you.😊
I was able to follow everything even though my 16" Jet was slightly different. It used to be the loudest machine in the shop now it's probably the quietest. Thank you for making this video!
Thanks, that was the real reason I made it. The best I could find at the time was some very low on the details video Grizzly made and that didn’t give me a ton of confidence, especially with taking the gear box apart. I’m glad you found my video useful.
My buddy used the vid to disassemble but failed to call for advice first, old mechanic in an earlier life. He called when a leak developed at the same location you reported. Thanks, nothing like assembling a box of parts.
Your video is an excellent portrail of the task. I learned alot , I was sucessful in changing out a failed mainshaft bearing and reassembling the gearbox. your method for reasssembly was spot on for my ShopFox W1754 20" helix Thank You
Your video is the best by far, the problems you had with the gear box are pretty much what I’m having and now I reckon with watching what you did I can go back down the shed and continue things. 👍😎👍
Just replaced my cutterhead on a Powermatic 15s and i ran into the same issue with the seal not seating properly which lead to oil leak. Thankfully this was an easy fix. Your model jet is literally the same exact one as the Powermatic which comes to no surprise as they are coming out of the same factory. Nice attention to detail and great video!
Well done video. Excellent detail which I needed. Just finished the install to a Jet 15". Had same issue that you had with the seal buut finally got it on third attempt. Lost count of number of times I played it over and over. Thanks for great work and instructions. Best one I have encountered on RUclips.
I'm focusing on saving up for closing a house next year but I, too, plan on getting old machines as they're often more sturdy than newer ones. You can find some awesome stuff on auction sites like that and it sometimes ends up selling for crazy low prices.
Here's a tip for these planers: I keep a roofing nail in each of the 4 oiling holes on top of the machine (for the infeed/outfeed roller bearings) so that they don't get clogged with dust.
Do you by any chance have a video on how to properly dial these machines in? Any videos on RUclips you would recommend? I love this video as I had a plan to do this to mine, thank you!
Did you set your rollers and chip breaker to manufacturer specs?.... .04 outfeed roller and chip breaker? What distance did you set your infeed roller at? Bottom out the bed rollers? Basically, did you find your snipe to go away?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure most of the main companies these days just have their stuff built in the same factory and then each company just puts their own unique finishing touches and logos on them at the end.
Great video. I can't believe that thing is 20 years old, it looks brand new. I've been planning this exact upgrade, just the noise reduction almost makes it seem worth it. Are you happy with it after a year?
I am trying to figure out how to justify a $750 USD cutter head? I can possibly see it being cost effective in a full time shop where it is run all day, and you can quickly rotate a nicked insert. It looks like you can rotate each cutter insert 4 times before you have to change the dull insert. But that's a lot of cutting. So what made you purchase such an expensive cutter head? Just curious.
One question. Did you replace the pulley side bearing as well? I didn't see it in the video and I'm having a real hard time installing it. I currently put the whole byrd head in the freezer hoping it will somewhat contract the shaft for me to get the bearing on.
I don’t think so, but after a year I can’t remember 100%. I’m inclined to say no since I included everything except taking the gearbox apart the second time after the leak.
Gear oil in a machine like this can last for decades, unlike motor oil. It's engine heat that makes motor oil go bad. You could have just run that oil through a couple of coffee filters and it woudl be fine.
@@Nitromudder I think so. I put it in like 3 years ago go I think and it’s been great. I use the planer a lot and have yet to need to rotate the cutters.
@@catspawcustoms great video too by the way. We will discus and consider it. Nothing looked to difficult, just a whole lot of steps. And I need to remember the seals are important!
I’d say around 7-8, total. If I had seen this video or a decent one prior to splitting the gearbox, I think some screwing around could have been avoided and it could be done in 5-6 hours.
Great video, appreciate you taking the time to record the process! Just finished getting mine installed after watching this about 12 times. About to take the geat box apart also cause my seal is also leaking 😩 but seriously, video helped a ton! For anyone about to do this: 1 - I was able to open my gear box by finding a small lip on the cover and putting a flat head screwdriver on that and start tapping and that worked well requiring minimal prying to protect the seal. 2 - I tried really hard using a mallet to get the old cutter head out but the gear puller was also necessary. And I hit it hard. 3 - This is a good video to tune it up after you have it back together: ruclips.net/video/M0arGQP38yg/видео.html
My old Grizzley 15" looks like a near carbon copy of your Jet 15" planer. Like, even down to using the same castings for the gearbox. I suspect alot of 15" planers are just rebadged copies of a much older 15" planer design. The Shelix instructions are kind of badly written, too. Wish I'd watched more videos first. As carbon copy-ish as some of these planers are, there are some key crucial differences. For example, on my Grizz, the "outboard" bearing (the one closest to the gearbox) has a capscrew with a washer threaded into the gearbox housing to prevent the cutterhead from being able to be backed out. Washer contacts the outer race of the cutterhead bearing. The Shelix instructions don't mention it at all. Yours appears to have it, too. You really need to take your time on these planers and very carefully look and make sure there's nothing interfering or locking anything into place before you try to tap the old cutterhead/gearbox out. Because the manuals may not warn you.
Thanks for making this. I was able to remove and replace my old knives with a Shellix knockoff from Amazon. It's manufactured the exact same. However, mine doesn't cut worth a damn after replacing. Any idea what could be causing this? I was just doing test cuts with pine. ruclips.net/video/VQ7XBVF1Svw/видео.html
@@catspawcustoms Have an update. The cutterhead works great. I had to raise the infeed/outfeed rollers to match the new height. The operators manual I found on the jet site didn't explain how to do this throughly, skipping over an important detail on what adjusts them. Here's my attempt as explaining that. Thanks again for your walk through on this. Helical cutters for life now. ruclips.net/video/zp7PZxZH624/видео.html
Can i ask what is the max depth you can cut with each pass before the motor bogs down? I ask because I am new to planing and just bought my first 15" planer today. It's about 30 years old and bogs down if I do 1/16" cut on 10" wide Douglas Fir board. Thanks! Dave
You should be paid by Grizzly and several other companies that sell planers. This was an outstanding video and I really appreciate your work and will continue to use your knowledge
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. We are about to install one on our 16" Jet. I took screenshots and turned your video into a PDF instruction packet we could use in the shop, since WiFi doesn't work well out there. I think this will be invaluable!
Great video, well done. A tip for re- assembly, put the shafts/bearings in the freezer, then use a small pin nozzle butane torch..( not a blowtorch) to heat the bearing seats slightly. It will go together like butter, but you have to work quickly. For the single bearing on the far end of the cutter, you could place the place the entire gearbox/cutter I. The freezer, or get a can of electronics cold shot, freeze the bearing, again warm the seat with the mini torch and it'll go together no heavy hammering needed. I do this all the time at my job as a field service engineer, a very old machinist trick that works awesome. Just a little cooling/heating in the right spots goes a looooong way!...and obviously, your using an open flame....use your head!!!!
Had no idea there was, that much work required to change cutter, this video is certainly going to make the process So much easier. Brilliant the way you have gone through the whole process so clearly.
Thank you so much for taking you time to record and produce amazing installation
Thank you so much for going to the effort of recording this in so much detail, its so comprehensive. I’ve had a shellix cutter head sitting in its box for years, probably 12 years or more. I couldn’t find anyone to fit it for me and didn’t have the confidence to do it myself. I have a 15 inch Jet planer and it now has the shellix cutter installed - it never would have happened without your video. Thank you.😊
I’m glad it helped and that you got that cutter installed.
I was able to follow everything even though my 16" Jet was slightly different. It used to be the loudest machine in the shop now it's probably the quietest.
Thank you for making this video!
Just finished the installation of a Shelix cutter head on my 15" Jet. Thanks for doing this video helped me a lot to know what to expect.
This is by far the most helpful video I found on this.
Thanks, that was the real reason I made it. The best I could find at the time was some very low on the details video Grizzly made and that didn’t give me a ton of confidence, especially with taking the gear box apart. I’m glad you found my video useful.
Outstanding, helping a buddy to reassemble his Shelix head in the exact planer in the morning.
Hopefully this helps!
My buddy used the vid to disassemble but failed to call for advice first, old mechanic in an earlier life. He called when a leak developed at the same location you reported. Thanks, nothing like assembling a box of parts.
Your video is an excellent portrail of the task. I learned alot , I was sucessful in changing out a failed mainshaft bearing and reassembling the gearbox. your method for reasssembly was spot on for my ShopFox W1754 20" helix Thank You
I’m glad it helped you!
Your video is the best by far, the problems you had with the gear box are pretty much what I’m having and now I reckon with watching what you did I can go back down the shed and continue things. 👍😎👍
I’m glad it helped!
Perfect amount of detail, nice editing and speed was spot on. Thank you!
I’m glad to be of help
Just replaced my cutterhead on a Powermatic 15s and i ran into the same issue with the seal not seating properly which lead to oil leak. Thankfully this was an easy fix. Your model jet is literally the same exact one as the Powermatic which comes to no surprise as they are coming out of the same factory. Nice attention to detail and great video!
Well done video. Excellent detail which I needed. Just finished the install to a Jet 15". Had same issue that you had with the seal buut finally got it on third attempt. Lost count of number of times I played it over and over. Thanks for great work and instructions. Best one I have encountered on RUclips.
Thank you, that was my goal making this one.
Beautiful production? I have an old delta 580, 20" and thinking about the upgrade. Not the same design, but a nice mechanical overview and well done.
Great video. You saved me. Thanks so much for all the time you had to put in creating !!!!!
its amazing how light duty those machines are and how people use them without breaking
Really enjoyed the honesty of the video and it will be very useful when it’s time to buy and upgrade some secondhand machinery for my workshop
I’m glad you liked it and I hope it does help people.
I'm focusing on saving up for closing a house next year but I, too, plan on getting old machines as they're often more sturdy than newer ones. You can find some awesome stuff on auction sites like that and it sometimes ends up selling for crazy low prices.
Best informative video I've ever watched. Thank you for this amazing content.
I’m glad you found it useful.
Here's a tip for these planers: I keep a roofing nail in each of the 4 oiling holes on top of the machine (for the infeed/outfeed roller bearings) so that they don't get clogged with dust.
Good video
Have an old Enco 15" planer that is same thing as Grizzly G0815
Will be installing spiral head soon and your video is very helpful
Very Well done. Busted knuckle and all. Thanks.
Great video!! Started the project and had way more apart then needed. Found you video and you saved my ass!! Thank you😊
I’m glad it helped
Pretty nice work, dude! But that's a massive work! 😬
I really hope it's worth it!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I just did one and it took me about 3 hours. Knowing what I know now... I could swap one in about 45 minutes to an hour.
@@oneandy2 Oh, I know the feeling... Sometimes the machines kick us there, until we learn the correct way to do things. 😬
Gracias por su video, está excelente me sirvo mucho para reparar una fuga de aceite en la caja de la transmisión....!!!
Great video, thanks. I’m not sure I can get thru the gearbox portion, kinda scared about that part
It scared me too, but was easier than I thought it would be.
Do you by any chance have a video on how to properly dial these machines in? Any videos on RUclips you would recommend? I love this video as I had a plan to do this to mine, thank you!
Sorry, I don’t
This one is pretty good: ruclips.net/video/M0arGQP38yg/видео.html
Great video, thank you!
Hi
Did you have to adjust the roller depth?
Thanks
Great video
I did not
great video! one question, do you still remember the size of the oil seal? thanks :)
Wow, I sure don’t anymore. I believe it came with the new bearing and the cutter itself though.
Did you set your rollers and chip breaker to manufacturer specs?....
.04 outfeed roller and chip breaker?
What distance did you set your infeed roller at?
Bottom out the bed rollers?
Basically, did you find your snipe to go away?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure most of the main companies these days just have their stuff built in the same factory and then each company just puts their own unique finishing touches and logos on them at the end.
Very helpful!
Great video. I can't believe that thing is 20 years old, it looks brand new. I've been planning this exact upgrade, just the noise reduction almost makes it seem worth it. Are you happy with it after a year?
Extremely happy, I’ve used the crap out of it and haven’t had a single issue. M glad you enjoyed the video!
Great Video!! I have an older Delta which looks to be a very similar design. I'm assuming no regrets?
Absolutely no regrets! It has been about 6 months since I installed the cutter and works wonderfully.
I am trying to figure out how to justify a $750 USD cutter head? I can possibly see it being cost effective in a full time shop where it is run all day, and you can quickly rotate a nicked insert. It looks like you can rotate each cutter insert 4 times before you have to change the dull insert. But that's a lot of cutting. So what made you purchase such an expensive cutter head? Just curious.
One question. Did you replace the pulley side bearing as well? I didn't see it in the video and I'm having a real hard time installing it. I currently put the whole byrd head in the freezer hoping it will somewhat contract the shaft for me to get the bearing on.
I don’t think so, but after a year I can’t remember 100%. I’m inclined to say no since I included everything except taking the gearbox apart the second time after the leak.
Gear oil in a machine like this can last for decades, unlike motor oil. It's engine heat that makes motor oil go bad. You could have just run that oil through a couple of coffee filters and it woudl be fine.
Was it worth the money? I have the exact same model and debating it. But $1200
@@Nitromudder I think so. I put it in like 3 years ago go I think and it’s been great. I use the planer a lot and have yet to need to rotate the cutters.
@@catspawcustoms great video too by the way. We will discus and consider it. Nothing looked to difficult, just a whole lot of steps. And I need to remember the seals are important!
where did you purchase the torque limiter? can you provide a link?
That was through Byrd tools, same place where I got the cutter head.
How many hours did this take? 6, 8, or more? Looks like a lot.
I’d say around 7-8, total. If I had seen this video or a decent one prior to splitting the gearbox, I think some screwing around could have been avoided and it could be done in 5-6 hours.
Your the boss
what the price for cutter head thank for this video
When I bought it in late 2020 they were around $750.
@@catspawcustoms thank u so much
thank u so much@@catspawcustoms
Great video, appreciate you taking the time to record the process! Just finished getting mine installed after watching this about 12 times. About to take the geat box apart also cause my seal is also leaking 😩 but seriously, video helped a ton!
For anyone about to do this:
1 - I was able to open my gear box by finding a small lip on the cover and putting a flat head screwdriver on that and start tapping and that worked well requiring minimal prying to protect the seal.
2 - I tried really hard using a mallet to get the old cutter head out but the gear puller was also necessary. And I hit it hard.
3 - This is a good video to tune it up after you have it back together: ruclips.net/video/M0arGQP38yg/видео.html
what brand planer i mean the mudlle number
Mine is a JWP-15HO
@@catspawcustoms wow am trying to get one of those .i have lunch box delta 12 inch.
What gear oil number
I used this: Valvoline High Performance SAE 80W-90 Gear Oil 1 QT a.co/d/6v4xaho
My old Grizzley 15" looks like a near carbon copy of your Jet 15" planer. Like, even down to using the same castings for the gearbox.
I suspect alot of 15" planers are just rebadged copies of a much older 15" planer design.
The Shelix instructions are kind of badly written, too. Wish I'd watched more videos first. As carbon copy-ish as some of these planers are, there are some key crucial differences. For example, on my Grizz, the "outboard" bearing (the one closest to the gearbox) has a capscrew with a washer threaded into the gearbox housing to prevent the cutterhead from being able to be backed out. Washer contacts the outer race of the cutterhead bearing. The Shelix instructions don't mention it at all. Yours appears to have it, too.
You really need to take your time on these planers and very carefully look and make sure there's nothing interfering or locking anything into place before you try to tap the old cutterhead/gearbox out. Because the manuals may not warn you.
Thanks for making this. I was able to remove and replace my old knives with a Shellix knockoff from Amazon. It's manufactured the exact same. However, mine doesn't cut worth a damn after replacing. Any idea what could be causing this? I was just doing test cuts with pine. ruclips.net/video/VQ7XBVF1Svw/видео.html
Sorry it’s not working for you, but my best guess is that the problem is being a knockoff.
@@catspawcustoms Have an update. The cutterhead works great. I had to raise the infeed/outfeed rollers to match the new height. The operators manual I found on the jet site didn't explain how to do this throughly, skipping over an important detail on what adjusts them. Here's my attempt as explaining that. Thanks again for your walk through on this. Helical cutters for life now. ruclips.net/video/zp7PZxZH624/видео.html
@@andrewfr7552 cool! I’m glad I was wrong and you got it figured out
Can i ask what is the max depth you can cut with each pass before the motor bogs down?
I ask because I am new to planing and just bought my first 15" planer today. It's about 30 years old and bogs down if I do 1/16" cut on 10" wide Douglas Fir board. Thanks! Dave
@@davidalexander843 are your knives dull? It should be able to do that without bogging down. I usually never take more than 1/32” per pass though.
@@catspawcustoms Good call, replacement blades arrive tomorrow and I'll give them a try!
Wow, 1/32? Ok, I'll take it easy!