The Jet KVM is Pretty Useful!
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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Yeah, I was REALLY surprised with how well both the physical products and the software was made. This software really feels like it was put together by a quality DEV or DEV team.
+1 for the "thanks Steve" at 8:40. I almost fell of my chair 😆
Even though it is because of a different reason, I really hope this meme doesn't die.
I digress.
The gift that keeps on giving 🤣
The NEW set! The hard work of the L1T team, Steve, and yourself finally showed up in a shoot. Looks great, Wendell! 👌🏼
Steve will backstab you one day and when asked why he didn't request your side of the story, he'll claim you'd weasel out of it.
@@TeamTDU what kind of bad dream did this come from?
@@bernds6587He still can process the LTT story. If Wendell don’t do or say crap, no need to fear Steve good ethics practice...
@@Enoril31 I extremely doubt Wendell will sell his good faith or stance in the tech industry for.. whatever reason.
I am still not exactly sure what story @TeamTDU is talking about. As far as I know, even Linus is still alive after Steves attack.
And.. I would not call that a backstab, though. More like Linus ran full speed ahead, and then closed his eyes
💯
That DLI I/O-controlled power strip is the mutt’s nuts.
Our solar water heater system has a busted temperature sensor up on the panel on the roof, its controller is baffled by it, and the landlord is clueless and doesn’t want to pay for a fix. I stuck one of these connected to an old RPi to control the pump, stuck an ADC hat on it to read the thermistor in the water tank and added one for the temperature of a fitting on the return to the tank, and cobbled together a little script to run things.
“power sippy” - Wendell 2024, the new standard in power efficiency.
My 7980Xe Nas Crys in sucking back power like a baseball through a Garden House when full tilt ☠️
Hey, it’s apt!
Glad to see you're also on to these dinky useful gizmos, I saw Jeff Geerling's video about this and he's also big into these and similar devices. Great time to be either an on-budget project hacksmith or even business user. I have definite applications for these devices where I work in enterprise in certain scenarios. ❤
My biggest fear is that they're potentially over promised at this point. They have just shy of $2 *million* in backing right now. That means they have at minimum of 29,000 units to ship.
Considering their original goal was $50,000, that was only 750 units to ship. I'm curious to if they can ramp their mass production by a factor of a few magnitudes magnitudes.
I'm in for a 3 pack 😊
In my opionion those "fifty grands" milestones are just a way to say potential customer "see? we need just this and it yours". Realistically you cannot crowdfund any real device manufacturing with this money. Not even 750 units. To deliver your promises you need to hold a massively successful campaign, order a dozen of devices and maybe even attract some investors after this. So I think they will do it, they got what they wanted from the beginning.
Maybe from the company, but you don't have to fear this from the manufacturing side. The manufacturing companies with the rapid part placement devices have spare machines just sitting and they are absolutely willing to move equipment around on their dime to their other facilities to spool up production.
It’s callee contract manufacturing. And it’s done in China. And volume should not be a concern.
@@johnsullivan8673 It may help to point out that china is currently having an economic collapse. The US and other western countries have been moving trade with china away to other countries over the last couple of years. Factories and corporations are going under because they have no paying customers. There is mass unemployment. Mass groups of people are homeless and barely surviving.
It is going to be easy to get electronics manufactured in china due to an abundance of idle companies that are desperate for customers. If this product proves popular, they'll likely be moving manufacturing to another country due to the new wave of tariff increases by the incoming US president. The new president isn't going to slowly increase tariffs to ensure that inflation stays low like the current admin, he is going to ramp it up faster and let inflation do whatever it ends up doing.
Shipping is also free from china, so the company is pocketing most of that shipping fee on kickstarter if they ship via the national chinese postal service which gets handed off to your national postal service when the package reaches your country.
@@johnsullivan8673 qc, fulfillment, and support are on the other side of that equation and matter just as much. Those are much harder to scale properly. I’m optimistic though and it looks like they have decent support.
wait! Could I plug any camera with a HDMI out into this. View it remotely, and then use the remote power switch function to trigger any relay? Might be fun to play with outside KVM use!
Now for KVM use, I would like to see a PCI slot mounting solution.
Just got the notice from Kickstarter that they "collected my pledge" and a delivery time of "December 2024". Eagerly awaiting...
Same. Just looked to see if there was a shipping update, but still showing that as well.
Have you received yours as yet?
@@ChrisDecrease should have mine in the next few days. Got the initial shipment notification and the "it's to the local shipping partner" message yesterday. Just waiting on the actual tracking number and delivery date information at this point.
@@popejohnny5, when you get it, let us know what you think.
I'm disappointed that PoE is not one of the available power methods.
PoE and larger internal storage seem like the no-brainers for a v2.0 release. Still, as it is now - seems to be a steal if we are just looking at capabilities when compared to competitors prices.
NanoKVM has you covered, and it's also cheap. But the JetKVM packaging is definitely sexier!
I, too, have no concept of how much PoE components cost.
You could make it POE right now with a $10 POE extractor, you can get them with USB-C out directly making it very easy to do.
After both you and Lawrence Systems have given this a pretty glowing review, I went ahead and backed the project. Here's hoping that I will actually get it...
Got it yet? I got burned once with Kickstarter and decided I wont back anything any more and will buy the product later (even if it's more expensive). Also it has to have reliable enough support.
Usually the kickstart phase will reveal how well they actually work the first bugs out and show how good they are at actually shipping the thing.
No, I'm not going to back a kickstarter project lol, but I'll buy it once(if) it launches. It sounds like a good project.
I backed the Kickstarter and the 2 I bought have just been delivered. I think I'm going to be really pleased with these.
Would've liked to see a bit about the software of this thing. I use my pikvm basically as a tool instead of a constant remote console, so most important for me is network flexibility. Can it do Wifi, create an accesspoint, both at the same time, route traffic between RJ45, Wifi, AP, Host? This is where the pikvm lacks. Sure, thats all achievable with the hardware and linux subsystem, but doing it in an intelligent and flexible manner is a whole different beast.
How was this posted 7 days ago, if this video was posted less than 2 minutes ago..?
@@rodrigobarraza you must be new here.
@@rodrigobarraza Don't think about it too hard
You are better off with a switch and on the other end some kind of pi or similar to act as a router
Jeff Geerling did a video on it as well, he explained a bunch as well
Awesome coverage! I backed a couple weeks ago, super stoked! Cheers!
Reminder that on kickstarter late pledges are a thing.. you can still order one until they run out.
Yep. I just refreshed the screen and number of backers and dollars keeps going up. Nice!! 😁 Getting close to $2 Million!!
Not sure about the product. However, I absolutely loved you poking at Dell, HPE, and Cisco for their shenanigans.
Once the dev team adds LAN multimanagement to JetKVM, I’m buying a bunch of these.
There is also a most simpler option for remote power on a machine called Wake on Lan and PXE for remote boot/management
This seems amazing, I'm a bit skittish about kickstarter but I will buy one if they're available at retail.
I backed his project about a month ago and I'm so excited. I really hope they ship. As of today it keeps on campaigns over and from all accounts and all reviews it looks like it's a product that will ship to the masses. I really can't wait, I looked at PI KVM, however I think it's too expensive. This actually hits a sweet spot in small, easy enough to move around to different servers in my home lab.
A company focusing on getting the software good enough for everyone to plug and play up to including wifi accessing, would be wildly successful with their products. The whole reason this hasn't caught on and become wildly popular is because the delivery is always aimed at the commercial industry or not had the software and usability easy enough for consumers.
My two units from the Kickstarter arrived - they're brilliant.
I don't usually care for so many projects and things people peddle, but I actually really like so much of this product. The extension using RJ11 is very smart. The info on the screen is smart. the price is smart. The software is smart. Opensource coded in Go on Linux is smart.
why is this genius of a man have only 466K subs, its criminal
Another big use case, these sorts of KVMs allow you to fix or alter a family member's computer.
I set up a BliKVM with tailscale that I included with a gaming computer I set up for a family member which *also* has tailscale set up on both the windows and linux installs I included. Basically if anything needs done or goes wrong software wise, they can just plug this in and there's enough cross redundancy that I can deal with issues on the computer or KVM.
Not trivial to set up and understand the first time, but heaven compared to "phone support".
Posting this on the same day the kickstarter ended is pretty funny.
been waiting for you to look at this! super neat
The jazz lick in their intro catches me off guard every time
This has a lot of potential for the work from home prosumer market which is far larger after covid. It would allow a lot of people to untether from their desk while having less anxiety about things going haywire while away from home.
Yes, that's my use case. I can just bring a simple tablet to keep tabs on things.
The only thing that still gives me anxiety is internet related. My modem or router locking up could cut me off, and although rare, happens enough to still give me anxiety, and I am not sure of a great solution to that issue.
Now who offers something like this to fix a tv setup for senior grandparents TV. Years will be saved averting desperate calls during wheel of fortune. 😂
My homelab consists of a (relatively large) Synology NAS and a bunch of RPis. I don't leave any of my PCs (Desktop, media center, laptop) running 24/7. I was already on the Kickstarter page when I realized I have absolutely no use for this.
2:03 Haunted draw starts opening on its own... :P
8:33 "Ooh its Haunted"
:D
One thing that is missing on most of these type units (I have 3 PiKVMs) is HDMI Passthru.. I understand the latest PiKVM hardware may do this, but to me, the PERFECT use case for this is to send one to the parent/cousin/grandma that every tech geek inevitably supports when they can't get to facebook. I personally have spent HOURS trying to get someone who doesn't know what a web browser is to figure out how to remotely install some "VNC-Like" remote sharing software.. If I had one of these pre-staged on their computer, I could just remote in, and act as a local connection, but since they are seemingly meant for headless server installs, there is no way to let a local user share the video with the remote KVM device. I have installed HDMI splitters in some cases, with some luck, but that adds complexity in the form of cables, extra power adapters to worry about, etc. I know it's probably more complex than I think, in terms of monitor/resolution identification, etc.. on the HDMI port and OS, but it would seem useful if they would include some thought into this from the start. I'd be curious of your thoughts, and/or if I am missing something in regard to this. In the meantime, this product still looks AWESOME and I'm heading for the kickstarter to spend some money on "hope" based on this review!!! :-)
Rustdesk has a 1 click file that you can email them. Assuming they can get online and get to email.
can't wait for mine, backed the KS!
I am watching these. Two of these would be great, one for a secondary backup and one for home.
Six on order to augment or replace a PiKVM 4 Plus and a BliKVM, both with HDMI KVM switches behind them.
I backed three JetKVM to replace my PiKVM V3 and V4. Keeping them as backups.
I've vowed to not use Kickstarter for products anymore. I now just give money to open source projects on Kickstarter and wait to see if they release a product later. I gave $5 to Jet KVM.
Yeah... The fancy box thing has gotten way out of control. I always wonder just how much extra those froufrou boxes cost me.
Can't wait for mine.
Have not watched this yet, but I really wish that it had come out more than a few hours before backing ends. If its a good review I want the kick starter to get a good endorsement in time to get more backing and if its a negative review I'd like to have known sooner to know if I should back out
It looks really neat, although I have been getting so frustrated lately searching for physical KVMs to manage multiple machines on my home network.
The line has gotten blurred between physical "Keyboard Video Mouse" for connecting your office/home PCs to the same IO hardware, IPKVM, and just straight up hardware for controlling a hypervisor. Bonus confusion points if it is designed to control "Kernel-based Virtual Machines"
Studio looking great
Thanks for letting me know about this, I bought 2 with 2 hours to go lol.
I backed them, really looking forward to having it in hand.
No words if Is it able to control multiple machines over a switch ?
Very nice Project and also Review - the device is half the price compared e.g. with a HPE ILO License :) 👍
i really like the nanokvm... because basically who needs them anyone can afford to buy them like 5-10 at a time
I would love a run down of AM5 motherboards with ECC for home labers that isn't serverboards but just consumer boards for cheaper price.
I have been looking at the AM5 platforms for my next NAS, old one died a long time ago. So having a rundown of AM5 boards that doesn't cost to much would be lovely!
Or you could just use Google. What does this have to do with the video?
@ it’s a suggestion? I dont see what your comment has to do with anything.
both ways compatibility would be a gamechanger. having the ability to do hdmi out & usb in would allow 2 of these to not even require a computer on client side. i would have one of these to a dedicated monitor just for remote work..
I am really looking forward to mine - I'll use it to control my mom's PC remotely.
We never cared about HPE ILO Enterprise licenses, we just used existing licenses so the extra license keys where never used, im pretty sure a lot of these end up on ebay or the "internet" so not a major concern for a homelab.
Im quite happy with IPMI from super micro and their HTML5 GUI with remote media - Yea super micro motherboards are expensive but even in a homelab scenario it helps a lot.
Having an external KVM is not an option at all, its to much work and to much things that can go wrong if I need external USB adapters, VGA to HDMI. also with power.
I already have Raritan PDUs so I can do remote shutdown/toggle on one of my 16 outlets and I have power monitoring for all.
I think these can be really useful in remote offices however, or in retail where you need another way to access a small office server doing inventory or whatever and it does not have something like intel vPro
I will wait for it to be for sale and see that it is actually open sourced. Looks neat.
Already backed a little while back. Hoping to get a few. Sometimes have issues with Kickstarter due to where I live which blows. Hopefully blow-free this time.
Thanks, Steve! I can't find anything now! ;)
For ip based power you can get inexpensive tp link ip based sockets, while they require one time setup via cloud, you can wall them off the internet after and still access over ip no problem.
Also I'd say it'd be nicer if jet kvms had a separate usb-c for power like the pikvms
Perhaps this could come in a version 2?
7:41 That Bloomberg article by Jordan Roberston and Michale Riley was just a supermicro hit piece. There never was such a thing and Apple/etc who were using the boards all investigated their hardware and confirmed nothing of the sort. It was nothing more than a hit piece that drove the stock down to $13.
I haven't found anything about this yet, but can it control an external KVM to expand to more inputs like the PiKVM/BliKVMs can?
what I want is something like this for a laptop to give remote service to my mom.
quick question on this, do I have to run 2 network cables to each machine, one for the machine and one for the kvm?
Where did you get that Johnny 5?!
One day, I hope the motherboard will have Display Port Alt + Power + USB + Keyboard all on a single type-c port.
They could save themselves a couple cents and leave out the HDMI cable.
And micro HDMI is idiotic, just make it bigger.
it's not a standard HDMI cable though
@nitrobear My comment was made before I got to that part of the video. Maybe they should split the difference and do full size HDMI and not include a cable.
I also think HDMI consortium like to take royalties.
Do I need one for each server or is there a way to switch between multiple?
I love how GPU manufacturers keep saddling us with one HDMI port and multiple DP ports.
Meanwhile, KVM manufacturers only support HDMI with no passthrough.
Also, a simple Switchbot to remotely power on a MiniPC (configure as inverted on/off to turn on and configure off to be switch for for 3 seconds... press mode not advised because it rotates way too far) is way easier than the relay.
So this is intended for a single remote device?
I'd like a more pro model that lets me control a couple different devices in a home network rack
I bet we'll see a homemade setup like that soon. The NanoKVM has a serial port output as well, and users are wiring it up to infrared transmitters. Then... many traditional multi-system KVM switches have the option of infrared switching (instead of pressing a button on them to move to another PC). You wouldn't have multi-system power/reset control (because that needs wiring to each motherboard) but it would let you have one-cheap-KVM-head-unit... and one-cheap-KVM-switch... without the enterprise pricing.
What VGA to HDMI adapter did you use that worked?
had to deal with a old dell with idrac... using very old version of java and removing tons of security to get it to even work.
How much energy does this small thing consume?
I hope they allow shipping to my country. I badly need this
Sometimes I just want to mess with the bios of my headless pc. Chrome Remote Desktop works 98% of the time when I’m in windows, but would this be good for those moments I need to access the bios? Or are there even better options?
yeah I really want one of these
On principle, I don't back Kickstarter or other crowdfunded projects. The more promising the project is, the less I trust actual delivery. Even projects which seem like delivery is likely, even if they're from a company or entity with a strong history of delivering, I still refuse to back it.
Believe me, I'm really excited to see this turn into reality, and I'd love to have supported the project during its campaign. Crowdfunding is definitely a good way to go with it, it's just that crowdfunding itself is tainted because of its history.
How come you didn't show the management interface at all? Is it reserved for another video or what?
I would buy a TON of these if it was for sale. I'm not touching a Kickstarter. I bought 2 NanoKVMs already because they're available to order. I'll probably buy more of those at some point.
this thing is an awesome bit of kit!!!
As a self-hoster at home, I'm enticed to try one as I could use one to manage my NAS while away or remotely from the comfort of my room as my NAS is located two floors away...
But its running on TrueNAS Scale so it really limits what I can do with the HDMI feature however I still appreciate the feature nonetheless!
It can be used for shell access if, for some reason, the TrueNAS WebUI starts acting up and you need direct access to the machine.
@@fujinshu That's one of my ideal use but I also want to access my OpenWRT router config through my TrueNAS server but TrueNAS lacks an desktop environment. I perfer using the Web GUI but I guess I could SSH into it instead.
How does it interact with the motherboard panel header for reset and shutdown?
Does Tailscale run natively on it or do you need to some fudging to make it work?
It doesn't, but you can use its own built-in internet service with an OAuth account (currently they only support Google accounts, but that will likely change in time) to access your KVM over the internet with E2EE.
Also, if you don't want that, you can run a subnet router (not an exit point) on Tailscale to allow other IPs on the same network to be connected to Tailscale without any extra software.
How well could this be implemented with a dell usff machines ? In particular the front power button control?
8:41 🤣🤣
How is the latency when working on a desktop interface (e.g not text console) ? I tested few KVMs and nothing was as responsive as Windows Remote Desktop. But yeah, that doesn't count on Linux :/
I wonder if it works with KVM switches.
I pledged and the project just passed the finish line!!!
when these things hit amazon at 50.00 usd I'll be a buyer.
i'm running a dell vrtx with 4 M640 blades with dual Xeon gold 6240's with 756 gig of memory for each blade in my homelab
I wanted to buy it for a new nas build i am planing but i am not really sure. I hope this proyect can be bought later. 😢
You can still pledge as it's accepting late pledges till the qtys are sold out.
Well I backed it and it seems as they are shipping it already - granted shipping from Germany to Austria is basically almost domestically shipping - if they are shipping it from Germany.
Can I rename the Keyboard and Mouse like custom edid ?
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Whats the white box with alternating flashing red lights on the shelf behind you?
I want one & r2d2:)
@@_-Karl-_ Quality My first PC was a Dec
@@_-Karl-_ I don't know. It had 850Mb HDD, 8Mb RAM running windows 95, I got it around 1996. It cost me £2'500.00 I nearly fell over. It was the first Tower configuration the guy ever built & gave me a frustrated stare when I declined a desktop. It was a big deal for some reason i'll never understand.
Btw, now you told me how to do that PDP-11 thing, its added to the list:)
there is a video on the channel
I backed this months ago.
I still need a solid AIO 4 port KVM Switch with local output with IP KVM support.
video released 2 hours before kickstarter ends ;D
Kickstarter is still accepting late pledges till the qtys are sold out.
looking good w
That Oxempic pack
0:36 "tricked... into hawking things" meaning they paid you? Sorry, I love your work Wendell, but my GF said this looked like an AD and now I'm concerned it wasn't clearly disclosed. I trust you to always be ethical, as I know you so deeply are.
There's nothing to suggest that he was the one who was tricked. I’m not a fan of Kickstarter either, but your interpretation seems uncharitable. Also, the FCC requires a notice for paid sponsorships, and he’s consistently included such notices in previous videos without issue.
@@Rotalus Thank you. I agree Wendell is extremely ethical. I'm a huge fan, he's made my life much better.
I think it's 80% likely that he just got free hardware and 20% likely that he was additionally paid. I just want to make sure it's all transparent, because of the FCC rules.
Link to that AM5 build please
this would be perfect if it could be powered by POE...I guess you could get a POE to 5v USB adapter?
Commodore forever!