I planned to drop this alongside the leaks tonight but that shit got delayed 😔 But anyways during the editing phase I realized I forgot to address the Jogo > 3f Sukuna statements, so I will do so now. The first statement from Gojo is in reference to when he only has 1 finger, as the panel shown in the panel is of 1 finger Sukuna regardless of how many fingers Sukuna had then. And no, Six Eyes wouldn’t allow him to see 3 finger Sukuna’s AP when he’s dormant inside of Yuji, it would only allow him to see the Cursed Energy amount/flow; which yeah Jogo has MORE cursed energy than 3 finger Sukuna as that’s consistent with Mahito’s statement that is also directly in reference to cursed energy levels, not output. Granted either way 3 finger Sukuna shouldn’t be above like late Shibuya Mahito either, his statement of Sukuna being able to kill him would be in reference to 15 finger as Sukuna was at that level at the time. My previous logic of using the panel being referenced just isn’t the same here due to the fact Mahito directly survived a 3f Sukuna with the intent to kill and Mahito would be aware of Sukuna being at 15 fingers atp.
@@Abyss_8228 if you're gonna use how much chapters a character lasted to determine their strength then mahoraga lasted only 1.5 chapters against the same sukuna jogo fought against so by your logic jogo>mahoraga, see the problem?
@@realmrpro5751 Mahoraga’s performance was significantly better. I’m not using sheer time alone I’m using how they performed, and Jogo didn’t land a single hit, got blitzed multiple times, didn’t tank anything, and got thrown around like a child. That isn’t a feat.
@@Abyss_8228 Mahito has shown nothing to counter Jogo , if jogo cast max meteor directly on mahito. Mahito would just be sucked into max meteor and get trapped in the the massive rubble that massively burns him. Like Mahito biggest destruction feat was not even comparable to jogo nor does his instant spirit body of distorted killing which has barely done something as big as Choso giant rock pillar . And sukuna called choso weak but called jogo strong. That’s a huge difference in attack potency. Mahito would just be disintegrated repeatedly. Also how many humans are you willing to go give Mahito 5000? Cuz a huge number of Mahito attacks evolve transfigured humans. He also used transfigured humans for his instant spirit body of distorted killing as seen in the anime. Idk but Mahito wins if he has like 1000 transfigured humans cuz that would really keep jogo busy and vulnerable. If it’s just Mahito and his body ,he doesn’t stand a good chance of against jogo sheer destructive power. Like Mahito has been drained in a matter minutes so it’s not impossible to just burn him repeatedly to end him which jogo has the capability to
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 I explained how his CT counters Jogo’s but aight. Mahito can change the shape of his soul, it doesn’t matter if he gets trapped in rubble he can turn himself into near-liquid. Destruction feats ≠ AP. Mahito would be disintegrated repeatedly (granting Jogo can even hit him consistently in this case), but then Jogo is draining CE faster. I gave him 0 transfigured humans for this, and no his primary form of dealing actual damage isn’t transfigured humans, it’s more shifting the battlefield itself to his advantage and supplying him with distractions which would only really work on someone morally torn like Shibuya Yuji. And no, his ISB state isn’t being used in this to begin with but off the manga he simply sheds his skin to reveal this form. Hell he even manipulates his own body to take away the armor for the “sweet spot”. You can’t really quantify Jogo lasting that long either, and Mahito landing black flashes would restore that output.
@@Abyss_8228 If jogo giant flame tornado could carry and compress such a large boulder of rubble and dirts for its meteor , there is definitely a big ass attack potency for the force of its winds like there is no way Mahito can make himself as heavy as that giant boulder . Maybe he could evolve his body to 95 % osmium. Or turn himself into a bacteria can infect jogo . Now that’s a lot of potential for Mahito if he can become as small as an amoeba. but maybe he can achieve this in his domain expansion only and a massive bindin vow
This video is living proof that most jjk fans have the reading capability of a 9 year old, though im glad that most of the comments are calling him out on his inability to read 😂
@@realmrpro5751 good job throwing childish insults rather than actually giving rationale for why Jogo stands literally any chance. Regardless of if you disagree with a take you’re being immature.
And I came off a little aggressive at times in this video but I was just kinda annoyed that it’s the end of the series and nearing 2025, and yet people still think Jogo is “underrated” or is the strongest disaster curse 😭. C’mon, y’all are capable of moving on from a just wrong agenda
Mahito lost to 2 grade 1 sorcerers. There is no world Jogo is losing that fight, even without a domain. To me it seems clear Jogo was bt far the strongest disaster curse, he was way faster even Naobito, Mahito wasnt even fast enough to touch todo for most of the fight, by statements is slower than Naobito. He also blitzed Maki and Nanami, who is at least on Todo's level.
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 Nanami doesn’t have to be on Todo’s level in speed and nowhere is that even implied, in pure raw strength Nanami has the edge but that’s all. And that Naobito shit isn’t solid at all as I explain in the video and the entire trio was nowhere near full strength anyways. And Jogo would just lose to that Yuji and Todo too
@Abyss_8228 Naobito is injured but there is nothing to state he is slowing down, plus at the start of the fight it was even stated they were relative in speed by Dagon. Jogo can literally flood the city with magma, how exactly can Yuji and Todo deal with that? Not sure how Mahito can deal with it either tbh. Jogo just has too much firepower, and is faster than either. Mahito was still a child as a cursed spirit even though he had more potential than Jogo, likely potential to reach sukunas level, he just wasn't there yet and was outclassed in power and speed by jogo by too much to compete
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 it’s literally stated he was the second fastest UNTIL he lost his arm, implying he slowed down, but aight. Yuji and Todo are more durable than what Jogo’s ap feats have shown, his only wincon there would be heat. Mahito deals with it by just literally not being fazed as it can’t harm him 😭. Jogo’s firepower has bare bones AP, and he’s not faster. Both had loads of potential and were nowhere close to reaching it, Mahito was just better kit wise and had better overall stats.
@Abyss_8228 Dagon stated their relativity in speed at the start of the fight, also why do you think when Dagon uses Jogo as a benchmark for referencing someone who is very fast, but not Mahito? Yuji and Todo have not shown durability at the level of city destroying attacks, Jogo flooded the streets with lava, picked up multiple buildings and smashed them together, they have shown nothing on that level. He can absolutely harm him, Mahito's body is just a body, it gets chopped up by nanamin all day.
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 because the Mahito he’d be referencing wouldn’t be the same Mahito that we see late into his fight with Yuji and Todo. Jogo’s only city level attacks were his domain and Max Meteor, his normal attacks were not that strong and the buildings scene simply isn’t canon to the manga regardless. Idt you realize how Mahito functions, it doesn’t matter what you do to his physical body it just isn’t ever going to actually do shit meaningful as his soul will simply reform the body, this is stated and blatantly shown to us multiple times
Maximum Meteor hit Panda. It destroyed one of his cores. Gege said Jogo is a match to 5F Sukuna. Yeah, good luck proving Mahito even at his peak can beat 3F Sukuna.
@@guesswho8556 if it only destroyed a single core then it’s more fodder than I thought. Idt 3f Sukuna has any basis of being above Mahito to begin with, claiming that I’d have to support Mahito scaling above a 3f Sukuna when you are just now inserting Sukuna into the argument is just shifting the burden
@@Abyss_8228 3F Sukuna with no heart was comparable to Toji in speed. Sukuna wasn't even certain if he would have lost to Mahogara back then. Sukuna also cut open a domain boosted Mahito with a single dismantle. Season 1 Mahito sure, but it was 3F Sukuna with a single dismantle as well. Not a full power 5F with Furnance or Malevolent Shrine. Same Sukuna Jogo can match according to Gege. Maximum Meteor wasn't even aimed at Panda. If Jogo can control the trajectory of the meteor then it would explain it dealing so little damage to Panda. They simply moved away of the critical radius. If the attack was aimed at Panda instead it could have simply traveled after him instead. Jogo also speed blitzes Mahito. The wounded Nanami/Maki he blitzed could react to Domain boosted Dagon. Same Dagon that with no domain amped could keep up with Full Power Nanami no problem. Itadori at this point was compared to Kusakabe and Nanami by Ino and Mei Mei. Jogo blitzes. And yes, Naobito is faster than Yuta and Yuki. That's a thing. Jogo also tanked Red, which even at its weakest is still twice as strong as Blue. Same attack that killed Agito. Mahito's domain is also overrated. Even Dagon has a more advanced domain than him, seeing as he has selective sure hit whereas Mahito can't avoid using idle transfiguration on Itadori.
@@guesswho8556 no, Toji was compared to him since he blitzed Megumi and was said to be likely faster. And Toji was blitzing a stronger Megumi. Sukuna with the intent to kill cut open a like newborn Mahito that recently at best was stalemating Nanami 😭. And how is Jogo matching 5f, like in what way is he matching him with the statement. Max Meteor’s AOE is very large as well, though, and if we’re to treat it as an end all be all here then this is like getting hit by the shockwave of a nuke when a mile away from the epicenter, you’re still getting obliterated. But yeah it wasn’t the utmost of Max Meteor’s AP. They hardly reacted to Dagon, they never land a single hit on him in his domain other than Maki hitting him from behind with Playful Cloud, and they hardly block Dagon either. Maki manages to block when she was already in a position to block but that’s it. Itadori is NEVER compared to them in speed at this point, he is compared in raw striking strength and skill as a sorcerer. No, Naobito is not conventionally faster than Yuta and Yuki, I go over it at 2:04. He tanked an intentionally suppressed red while Gojo was trying to extract information. Agito died from a black flash blue that Gojo shoved inside her stomach and made her implode, that is not at all comparable 😭 Mahito’s domain is one of the 3 (if I’m remembering the number right) domain users in the series shown capable of pulling off a 0.2 domain, and he does it on a whim. Mahito as I stated near the end of his section of the video as well just has a vastly better understanding of cursed energy to begin with so that should transfer over to refinement with something like barrier techniques.
@@Abyss_8228 Toji didn't blitz Megumi. Megumi reacts to him twice during the fight. And he only says that he MIGHT be faster than Sukuna at the start. Later on he says he RIVALS sukuna. This is also 3F Sukuna while WEAKENED with no heart. Not a hypothetical Full Power 5F Sukuna Jogo scales to. Jogo is also comparable to Naobito, who is faster than Yuta and Geto. He also blitzed Shibuya Itadori tier characters. Toji "blitzed" a weakened Megumi that was weakened from having just spent most of his CE deploying his domain. That same Megumi at the start of the shibuya incident could barely keep up with a healthy Itadori. And Megumi still reacted to Toji twice. Megumi in the finger bearer arc and Nue also reacted to attack from 3F Sukuna that was compared to Toji. It's consistent. Megumi has always been capable of reacting high diff to Toji/3F Sukuna level guys. Dagon tried to kill Megumi and Nanami jumped between them and shielded him from the shikigami. Dagon couldn't just blitz and kill them, which is exactly what Jogo did. Same dagon that could react to Full Power Nanami outside his own domain. Naobito blitzed that Dagon, and the latter was still uncertain on whether he was actually faster than Jogo. Don't take one panel where 1 arm Naobito moves out of the way as an anti feat. By that logic Gojo blitzes Sukuna because he also made clone images of him at one point during their fight. You don't go over why Naobito isn't faster than Yuta. You just headcanonize it, which is no evidence. Itadori could react to Yuta but not Naoya. Choso also swaps hands with Kenjaku on 2 separate ocasions but couldn't touch Naoya. It doesn't matter that Gojo was trying to extract information. Red is ALWAYS AT LEAST 2x Blue. Gojo was also weakened and had brain damage when he killed Agito. Also, even if he wasn't. 120% is still weaker than a 2x amp. Jogo is more durable than Agito. It's that simple. Kusakabe outright says that no one in shinjuku can survive Sukuna's flame arrow because it was powerful enough to exorcise Jogo. Jogo is being used as a benchmark on people who have Maximum Uzumaki level simple domains, RCT, and/or Durability comparable to Ryu/Yuta. Also, the 5x BF + Playful Cloud killing Jogo is irrelevant given Mahito would also die to that amount damage. No one ever tried using a 0.2 domain. It doesn't provide an advantage to most people either. Most people use domains so that their long ranged attacks land and the enemy can't escape outside the barrier. People who don't have CTs that are passively activated just from being inside the domain like idle transfiguration or projection sorcery need to summon their true sphere (yorozu)/shikigami (dagon)/meteor (jogo)/swords (yuta) before. They could use a 0.2 domain and it would deal 0 damage because there's no passive ability tied to it. And as I said, Dagon's domain is more advance than Mahito's. That's a fact. Just because we never got confirmation of who else can use 0.2 doesn't mean Mahito is suddenly better than people like Yuta or Sukuna who haven't performed that ability.
@@Abyss_8228 Also, for Mahito to be 5F Sukuna level, that would mean BASE Mahito is 2.5F level, given his final form is a 2x amp. That means BASE Mahito is above the 2F Sukuna that was blitzing a Finger Bearer. For comparison, a semi grade 1 curse was keeping up with a healthy itadori. This would also be a hypothetical Full Power Mahito that recovered post Shibuya. Not the one who had been already weakened by several punches from Itadori and THEN got a 2x amp by transforming into his final form.
jogo practically one shots nanami in shibuya without trying. if he was trying he actually would have. meanwhile nanami in the sewers was fighting against mahito and was actually doing decently. of course he couldent kill mahito as he cant touch souls, however he still managed to stun him slightly while comboing with yuji. jogo clearly is stronger then mahito, only issue. jogo hasnt been shown to touch souls. how ever i do believe that if jogo knew how to touch souls jogo could easily win. though due to this simple issue, jogo and mahito are at stalemate. cause jogo can just keep melting and charing up mahitos body so he cant disfugure jogo but jogo could never actually kill mahito due to soul shenanigens. its a perfect stalemate. but raw power, experience, and skill. jogo clears.
@@BBL0K he nearly one shots an already fatigued Nanami when he had the intent to kill. The same Nanami fighting a careless and much weaker Mahito to a near stalemate. In your hypothetical as to why they’d stalemate Jogo would simply run out of cursed energy much faster due to constantly releasing waves of CE and spamming his cursed technique.
Bro is a Hakari victm 😢 (maybe Naobito is the second fastest sorcerer in.....trevel speed or some bullshit like that? Because i just can't see this old man being faster than Yuta or Yuki in combat)
I planned to drop this alongside the leaks tonight but that shit got delayed 😔
But anyways during the editing phase I realized I forgot to address the Jogo > 3f Sukuna statements, so I will do so now.
The first statement from Gojo is in reference to when he only has 1 finger, as the panel shown in the panel is of 1 finger Sukuna regardless of how many fingers Sukuna had then. And no, Six Eyes wouldn’t allow him to see 3 finger Sukuna’s AP when he’s dormant inside of Yuji, it would only allow him to see the Cursed Energy amount/flow; which yeah Jogo has MORE cursed energy than 3 finger Sukuna as that’s consistent with Mahito’s statement that is also directly in reference to cursed energy levels, not output.
Granted either way 3 finger Sukuna shouldn’t be above like late Shibuya Mahito either, his statement of Sukuna being able to kill him would be in reference to 15 finger as Sukuna was at that level at the time. My previous logic of using the panel being referenced just isn’t the same here due to the fact Mahito directly survived a 3f Sukuna with the intent to kill and Mahito would be aware of Sukuna being at 15 fingers atp.
The sh we seen jogo do fighting sukuna tells us jogo SLAMS
@@Dalauan_Sparrow getting blitzed and eviscerated for 2-3 chapters isn’t a great feat.
@@Abyss_8228 if you're gonna use how much chapters a character lasted to determine their strength then mahoraga lasted only 1.5 chapters against the same sukuna jogo fought against so by your logic jogo>mahoraga, see the problem?
@@realmrpro5751 Mahoraga’s performance was significantly better. I’m not using sheer time alone I’m using how they performed, and Jogo didn’t land a single hit, got blitzed multiple times, didn’t tank anything, and got thrown around like a child. That isn’t a feat.
jogoat is stronger but mahito is just a hardcounter to everyone who cant hit souls
@@FisherFhier I disagree with Jogo being stronger, but yeah Mahito does just hard counter regardless
@@Abyss_8228 domain amplification !
@@Abyss_8228 Mahito has shown nothing to counter Jogo , if jogo cast max meteor directly on mahito. Mahito would just be sucked into max meteor and get trapped in the the massive rubble that massively burns him. Like Mahito biggest destruction feat was not even comparable to jogo nor does his instant spirit body of distorted killing which has barely done something as big as Choso giant rock pillar . And sukuna called choso weak but called jogo strong. That’s a huge difference in attack potency. Mahito would just be disintegrated repeatedly. Also how many humans are you willing to go give Mahito 5000? Cuz a huge number of Mahito attacks evolve transfigured humans. He also used transfigured humans for his instant spirit body of distorted killing as seen in the anime. Idk but Mahito wins if he has like 1000 transfigured humans cuz that would really keep jogo busy and vulnerable. If it’s just Mahito and his body ,he doesn’t stand a good chance of against jogo sheer destructive power. Like Mahito has been drained in a matter minutes so it’s not impossible to just burn him repeatedly to end him which jogo has the capability to
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 I explained how his CT counters Jogo’s but aight. Mahito can change the shape of his soul, it doesn’t matter if he gets trapped in rubble he can turn himself into near-liquid. Destruction feats ≠ AP. Mahito would be disintegrated repeatedly (granting Jogo can even hit him consistently in this case), but then Jogo is draining CE faster. I gave him 0 transfigured humans for this, and no his primary form of dealing actual damage isn’t transfigured humans, it’s more shifting the battlefield itself to his advantage and supplying him with distractions which would only really work on someone morally torn like Shibuya Yuji. And no, his ISB state isn’t being used in this to begin with but off the manga he simply sheds his skin to reveal this form. Hell he even manipulates his own body to take away the armor for the “sweet spot”. You can’t really quantify Jogo lasting that long either, and Mahito landing black flashes would restore that output.
@@Abyss_8228 If jogo giant flame tornado could carry and compress such a large boulder of rubble and dirts for its meteor , there is definitely a big ass attack potency for the force of its winds like there is no way Mahito can make himself as heavy as that giant boulder . Maybe he could evolve his body to 95 % osmium. Or turn himself into a bacteria can infect jogo . Now that’s a lot of potential for Mahito if he can become as small as an amoeba. but maybe he can achieve this in his domain expansion only and a massive bindin vow
This video is living proof that most jjk fans have the reading capability of a 9 year old, though im glad that most of the comments are calling him out on his inability to read 😂
@@realmrpro5751 good job throwing childish insults rather than actually giving rationale for why Jogo stands literally any chance. Regardless of if you disagree with a take you’re being immature.
And I came off a little aggressive at times in this video but I was just kinda annoyed that it’s the end of the series and nearing 2025, and yet people still think Jogo is “underrated” or is the strongest disaster curse 😭. C’mon, y’all are capable of moving on from a just wrong agenda
Mahito lost to 2 grade 1 sorcerers. There is no world Jogo is losing that fight, even without a domain. To me it seems clear Jogo was bt far the strongest disaster curse, he was way faster even Naobito, Mahito wasnt even fast enough to touch todo for most of the fight, by statements is slower than Naobito. He also blitzed Maki and Nanami, who is at least on Todo's level.
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 Nanami doesn’t have to be on Todo’s level in speed and nowhere is that even implied, in pure raw strength Nanami has the edge but that’s all. And that Naobito shit isn’t solid at all as I explain in the video and the entire trio was nowhere near full strength anyways. And Jogo would just lose to that Yuji and Todo too
@Abyss_8228 Naobito is injured but there is nothing to state he is slowing down, plus at the start of the fight it was even stated they were relative in speed by Dagon.
Jogo can literally flood the city with magma, how exactly can Yuji and Todo deal with that? Not sure how Mahito can deal with it either tbh. Jogo just has too much firepower, and is faster than either. Mahito was still a child as a cursed spirit even though he had more potential than Jogo, likely potential to reach sukunas level, he just wasn't there yet and was outclassed in power and speed by jogo by too much to compete
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 it’s literally stated he was the second fastest UNTIL he lost his arm, implying he slowed down, but aight.
Yuji and Todo are more durable than what Jogo’s ap feats have shown, his only wincon there would be heat. Mahito deals with it by just literally not being fazed as it can’t harm him 😭. Jogo’s firepower has bare bones AP, and he’s not faster. Both had loads of potential and were nowhere close to reaching it, Mahito was just better kit wise and had better overall stats.
@Abyss_8228 Dagon stated their relativity in speed at the start of the fight, also why do you think when Dagon uses Jogo as a benchmark for referencing someone who is very fast, but not Mahito?
Yuji and Todo have not shown durability at the level of city destroying attacks, Jogo flooded the streets with lava, picked up multiple buildings and smashed them together, they have shown nothing on that level.
He can absolutely harm him, Mahito's body is just a body, it gets chopped up by nanamin all day.
@@redeyesb.dragonite8562 because the Mahito he’d be referencing wouldn’t be the same Mahito that we see late into his fight with Yuji and Todo. Jogo’s only city level attacks were his domain and Max Meteor, his normal attacks were not that strong and the buildings scene simply isn’t canon to the manga regardless.
Idt you realize how Mahito functions, it doesn’t matter what you do to his physical body it just isn’t ever going to actually do shit meaningful as his soul will simply reform the body, this is stated and blatantly shown to us multiple times
Maximum Meteor hit Panda. It destroyed one of his cores.
Gege said Jogo is a match to 5F Sukuna. Yeah, good luck proving Mahito even at his peak can beat 3F Sukuna.
@@guesswho8556 if it only destroyed a single core then it’s more fodder than I thought.
Idt 3f Sukuna has any basis of being above Mahito to begin with, claiming that I’d have to support Mahito scaling above a 3f Sukuna when you are just now inserting Sukuna into the argument is just shifting the burden
@@Abyss_8228 3F Sukuna with no heart was comparable to Toji in speed. Sukuna wasn't even certain if he would have lost to Mahogara back then. Sukuna also cut open a domain boosted Mahito with a single dismantle. Season 1 Mahito sure, but it was 3F Sukuna with a single dismantle as well. Not a full power 5F with Furnance or Malevolent Shrine. Same Sukuna Jogo can match according to Gege.
Maximum Meteor wasn't even aimed at Panda. If Jogo can control the trajectory of the meteor then it would explain it dealing so little damage to Panda. They simply moved away of the critical radius. If the attack was aimed at Panda instead it could have simply traveled after him instead.
Jogo also speed blitzes Mahito. The wounded Nanami/Maki he blitzed could react to Domain boosted Dagon. Same Dagon that with no domain amped could keep up with Full Power Nanami no problem. Itadori at this point was compared to Kusakabe and Nanami by Ino and Mei Mei. Jogo blitzes. And yes, Naobito is faster than Yuta and Yuki. That's a thing.
Jogo also tanked Red, which even at its weakest is still twice as strong as Blue. Same attack that killed Agito.
Mahito's domain is also overrated. Even Dagon has a more advanced domain than him, seeing as he has selective sure hit whereas Mahito can't avoid using idle transfiguration on Itadori.
@@guesswho8556 no, Toji was compared to him since he blitzed Megumi and was said to be likely faster. And Toji was blitzing a stronger Megumi. Sukuna with the intent to kill cut open a like newborn Mahito that recently at best was stalemating Nanami 😭. And how is Jogo matching 5f, like in what way is he matching him with the statement. Max Meteor’s AOE is very large as well, though, and if we’re to treat it as an end all be all here then this is like getting hit by the shockwave of a nuke when a mile away from the epicenter, you’re still getting obliterated. But yeah it wasn’t the utmost of Max Meteor’s AP.
They hardly reacted to Dagon, they never land a single hit on him in his domain other than Maki hitting him from behind with Playful Cloud, and they hardly block Dagon either. Maki manages to block when she was already in a position to block but that’s it. Itadori is NEVER compared to them in speed at this point, he is compared in raw striking strength and skill as a sorcerer. No, Naobito is not conventionally faster than Yuta and Yuki, I go over it at 2:04.
He tanked an intentionally suppressed red while Gojo was trying to extract information. Agito died from a black flash blue that Gojo shoved inside her stomach and made her implode, that is not at all comparable 😭
Mahito’s domain is one of the 3 (if I’m remembering the number right) domain users in the series shown capable of pulling off a 0.2 domain, and he does it on a whim. Mahito as I stated near the end of his section of the video as well just has a vastly better understanding of cursed energy to begin with so that should transfer over to refinement with something like barrier techniques.
@@Abyss_8228 Toji didn't blitz Megumi. Megumi reacts to him twice during the fight. And he only says that he MIGHT be faster than Sukuna at the start. Later on he says he RIVALS sukuna. This is also 3F Sukuna while WEAKENED with no heart. Not a hypothetical Full Power 5F Sukuna Jogo scales to. Jogo is also comparable to Naobito, who is faster than Yuta and Geto. He also blitzed Shibuya Itadori tier characters.
Toji "blitzed" a weakened Megumi that was weakened from having just spent most of his CE deploying his domain. That same Megumi at the start of the shibuya incident could barely keep up with a healthy Itadori. And Megumi still reacted to Toji twice. Megumi in the finger bearer arc and Nue also reacted to attack from 3F Sukuna that was compared to Toji. It's consistent. Megumi has always been capable of reacting high diff to Toji/3F Sukuna level guys.
Dagon tried to kill Megumi and Nanami jumped between them and shielded him from the shikigami. Dagon couldn't just blitz and kill them, which is exactly what Jogo did. Same dagon that could react to Full Power Nanami outside his own domain. Naobito blitzed that Dagon, and the latter was still uncertain on whether he was actually faster than Jogo. Don't take one panel where 1 arm Naobito moves out of the way as an anti feat. By that logic Gojo blitzes Sukuna because he also made clone images of him at one point during their fight.
You don't go over why Naobito isn't faster than Yuta. You just headcanonize it, which is no evidence. Itadori could react to Yuta but not Naoya. Choso also swaps hands with Kenjaku on 2 separate ocasions but couldn't touch Naoya.
It doesn't matter that Gojo was trying to extract information. Red is ALWAYS AT LEAST 2x Blue. Gojo was also weakened and had brain damage when he killed Agito. Also, even if he wasn't. 120% is still weaker than a 2x amp. Jogo is more durable than Agito. It's that simple. Kusakabe outright says that no one in shinjuku can survive Sukuna's flame arrow because it was powerful enough to exorcise Jogo. Jogo is being used as a benchmark on people who have Maximum Uzumaki level simple domains, RCT, and/or Durability comparable to Ryu/Yuta.
Also, the 5x BF + Playful Cloud killing Jogo is irrelevant given Mahito would also die to that amount damage.
No one ever tried using a 0.2 domain. It doesn't provide an advantage to most people either. Most people use domains so that their long ranged attacks land and the enemy can't escape outside the barrier. People who don't have CTs that are passively activated just from being inside the domain like idle transfiguration or projection sorcery need to summon their true sphere (yorozu)/shikigami (dagon)/meteor (jogo)/swords (yuta) before. They could use a 0.2 domain and it would deal 0 damage because there's no passive ability tied to it. And as I said, Dagon's domain is more advance than Mahito's. That's a fact. Just because we never got confirmation of who else can use 0.2 doesn't mean Mahito is suddenly better than people like Yuta or Sukuna who haven't performed that ability.
@@Abyss_8228 Also, for Mahito to be 5F Sukuna level, that would mean BASE Mahito is 2.5F level, given his final form is a 2x amp. That means BASE Mahito is above the 2F Sukuna that was blitzing a Finger Bearer. For comparison, a semi grade 1 curse was keeping up with a healthy itadori.
This would also be a hypothetical Full Power Mahito that recovered post Shibuya. Not the one who had been already weakened by several punches from Itadori and THEN got a 2x amp by transforming into his final form.
Yo bro! Please do What If Angels existed in Devil May Cry!
jogo practically one shots nanami in shibuya without trying. if he was trying he actually would have. meanwhile nanami in the sewers was fighting against mahito and was actually doing decently. of course he couldent kill mahito as he cant touch souls, however he still managed to stun him slightly while comboing with yuji. jogo clearly is stronger then mahito, only issue. jogo hasnt been shown to touch souls. how ever i do believe that if jogo knew how to touch souls jogo could easily win. though due to this simple issue, jogo and mahito are at stalemate. cause jogo can just keep melting and charing up mahitos body so he cant disfugure jogo but jogo could never actually kill mahito due to soul shenanigens. its a perfect stalemate. but raw power, experience, and skill. jogo clears.
@@BBL0K he nearly one shots an already fatigued Nanami when he had the intent to kill. The same Nanami fighting a careless and much weaker Mahito to a near stalemate. In your hypothetical as to why they’d stalemate Jogo would simply run out of cursed energy much faster due to constantly releasing waves of CE and spamming his cursed technique.
Jogoat 🗿 slam
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch nah
I win @@Abyss_8228
@@Abyss_8228i win
Get bro past Kusekabe
Bro is a Hakari victm 😢 (maybe Naobito is the second fastest sorcerer in.....trevel speed or some bullshit like that? Because i just can't see this old man being faster than Yuta or Yuki in combat)
@@Freddy-jf3yg yeh he’s the second fastest while using his technique, it’s very circumstantial
Facts brother, Jogo is an overrated fodder
Mahito glazer get out of her gramps
@@low_tier_one naw Mahito glazing this dick because Mahito is the ideal sexual partner
Nah I’d sniff
Jogo one slaps mahito