Your First Recycled Plastic Project
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In this video we try our hand at making a DIY-friendly project that anyone can do as their first attempt at working with recycled plastic. We've made lots of things in the past like keyrings and other small items that are easy for beginners, but don't necessarily have an inherent value. By making objects from recycled plastic that last a lifetime, it means that they are kept out of landfill instead of just delaying their journey there.
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I've got an idea for you. Maybe you could experiment with making 3D printing filament. Plastic use has gone up a lot since 3D printing got popular, so if people could get recycled filament, it might do a lot of good. You could also try recycling the discarded prototypes that always seem to go with 3D printiing. I watch a lot of makers on RUclips, and I always wonder what they do with the waste.
One note worth mentioning for beginners is to work primarily with bottle caps vs full HDPE container bottles.
I've worked primarily with container bottles as I just don't come across HDPE caps frequently and it is much more difficult to work with. It does not melt quite as fast and it isn't as plyable and melty. It's definitely worth noting as it could be quite frustrating
Why not use alcohol or dry erase marker to get rid of the marker marks
Totally impressed with your dedication to the 20 sided dice Matt, fab
Thank you! It was definitely more work than I had imagined
Can you make dice injection molds?
It may be worth making a metal mold. Or using a heating mat to keep the plastic melty ? 🫠
Quick PSA-- For "inking" pips(dots on dice) or numbers, brush on nailpolish then whipe off on a paper towel on a flat surface and you get great results and a massive about of awesome colors!
One of the things you can learn from other crafting disciplines is how to make a cane with no air bubbles - polymer clay artists and candy makers know how to do this well.
Basically, you squish the very middle into a smaller diameter and then work your way out like you're squeezing a tube of toothpaste but on all sides of the cane
so many people whining about unbalanced dice
even spin down dice are statistically equivalent to random, especially when compared to the standard rock tumbled dice that people just drop straight down
Those are the best dice, you never really know where it'll go. Muscle memory allows you to master things, an unbalanced dice wont let you master it.. always unpredictable.
given how soft these kinds of plastics are i could also imagine theyd be great for some very colorful woodcarving-esque projects. actually thinking about it more, the pattern on the plastic already kinda resembles woodgrain in a way so if you pick only similar colors it could actually give off a very cool colorful wood effect
Huh I suppose you could use a similar method to make dominos - cool dice - love your channel
Great idea
I know I commented earlier on the need for precision in dice, but had an afterthought that I wanted to share.
When I was young, back before televisions were in color, we had earrings made of dice. Why couldn’t you add a screw in I-ring into the dice, add a jump ring and put them on hanging pierced earrings? They were hugely popular back in the day. Precision isn’t important and since the kids play so many dice dependent games, you would have a market for them? Just a thought.
We’ve made so much in our family using crisp packets and milk carton lids because of you guys xx we spend so much on our D&D dice so this idea of making our own is brilliant. 😊
That’s great to hear! Definitely give it a go 🤙🏽
There is no way thoes are weighted properly. I did find this video intresting and fun. The D20 was right up my color alley. I've subscribed. 👍
I want to say this was pretty cool; but I also want to say that what you created was a spin-down d20, not a rolling d20. Spin-down d20s are used to keep track of things, like if you're playing Magic, you can use a spin-down d20 to keep track of your life points, but the numbers aren't sufficiently randomized to be a good rolling d20. It would be comparatively easy for a person to develop a rolling technique that makes it likely for the die to land on a relatively high score, if all the high numbers are grouped together in the same part of the die. For randomization purposes, regardless of the type of die, all opposing faces should add up to the same number (if there are opposing faces), to sufficiently balance the odds, and there should be as much space as possible between successive numbers.
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Love these! Would be great if you could send them to Stand-Up Maths to work out how well balanced they are. Surely they're close enough but I'd be really curious to learn a method to measure that and find out just how close they actually are.
That would be very interesting!
One "quick and dirty" method is to gently drop the die in a glass of water to see if one side consistently floats to the top. If you'd like to know more, I suggest an article on the Awesome Dice website titled "d20 Dice Randomness Test: Chessex vs GameScience"
(by Awesome Dice, on Apr 18, 2019; I'd post the link but I've discovered that RUclips doesn't care for external links in comments.)
I forget the name of the channel, but there was one I watched making resin dice that showed a way to test balance of dice in salt water or something, because any heavy spot would sink so the same number would end up on top
Edit: I think channel name is "Rybonator"
LESS twisting and folding = more air bubbles, more color contrast
MORE folding = less air bubbles, less color contrast
You got it!
@@BrothersMake I'm guessing that if it was folded until it was homogeneous, it would be a ugly brown, but is there any way to bleach out the color? White would be better than brown, and then you could fold it a lot.
That is absolutely awesome! How long did the D20 take? Would you have been able to get similar color patterns in an injection scenario? Or do the colors mix too much?
Thank you! The D20 probably took 6-8 hours roughly if you take out the cool down time. You certainly could get a similar effect using injection moulding - we're trying to have a mould made but it's not a simple one to make! Thanks for watching 🤙🏽
@@BrothersMakewill standard silicone moulds for resin making work for the plastic, or does it get too hot?
Awesome video :D for any dice nerds who wanna see something at the exact opposite end of the materials spectrum, Hedron Rockworks does fantastic carved?/cut?/ground?? D20s from shiny shiny rocks. Both approaches are cool but for different reasons.
Air bubbles inside a dice will throw it off balance and make it unfair. More blending would be better in this case.
Oh for sure these won’t be perfectly balanced, but for a casual player it’s completely fine
I doubt it will actually make that much difference, the bubbles are pretty small anyway or they would show from the outside and get filled. Looking at the creation process and the results from under the chisel as it cuts I don't think there is enough bubble in the die to be any different to an injection moulded die. Would like to see the results of say 100 rolls on one of these die though - but if you do that on a commercial D20 its often far from even.
@@BrothersMakeI think you misunderstand. People who make their own dice are NOT casual
As someone who makes dice, those bubbles would be fine, even for official play.
@@poetgriot18 how so?
I love everything about this video, and your brotherly relationship is refreshing and enjoyable. I know nothing about recycling yet, but I am now inspired to study!
Thank you so much! We have fun making these videos so I’m glad that comes across :)
13:58 Other comments have dealt with air bubbles affecting randomisation, but you may get comments here that this is a spin-down dice (a dice where a path exists from face-to-face from the highest value face to the lowest value face) which I hear from the magic the gathering community is not a fair dice. Note - if everyone uses the same physical dice, then you are drawing from the same random distribution and no one in particular is favoured.
Edit: Stealing from my Parker dice, if someone wants a fair distribution, spinning down, the sequence is - 20, 6, 3, 7, 16, 4, 2, 10, 9, 8, 17, 19, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 14, 5, 1.
Edit edit: while I'm writing an essay in the comments, the "Matt Parker" dice is the product of the dicelab which Matt showed off in his video, of which an explanatory video can be found here: ruclips.net/video/Nh2H_4g6evc/видео.htmlsi=w1AP8MVgrXtjjY_T
*Maths nerd voice* - The concept of a fair dice is one where each side is equally likely to occur. For DnD this is the type of dice you need. I looked up a forum and a spin down exaggerates any dice defects (i.e. air bubbles, poor balance), whereas a regular patterned D20 or the Matt Parker D20 spreads the numbers around so if it's weighted with 20 being the most likely, numbers around 20 are generally lower (I think the surrounding faces of the 20 face on a standard D20 are 2, 6, 14? ). Stand-up Mathematician Matt Parker did a video at some point where he also added the condition that tried to balance the values surrounding each vertex.
ruclips.net/video/pF8goco4ix0/видео.htmlsi=f0Bl-R14u6px0jOY&t=321
Time stamped to the conversation around spin-downs. The whole video covers properties of opposite dice faces, etc.
In contrast to the most common use in Magic, which will be "Highest roll goes first", where if everyone rolls the same dice, everyone suffers the same dice defects.
That was perfect. I should melt plastic and make dice. That gives me excellent idea.
I love how the D20 characters came out the more you worked it. I think the numbers would have looked better if you used black paint pen for the instead of silver as you used silver bottle caps in the making of the dice itself otherwise they look amazing
That’s fair. We decided to do silver as we’d done black on the smaller dice. Thanks for watching!
@@BrothersMake silver was the right choice, black would have been harder to see 👍
What a fantastically geeky project, I love it!
Could I make a suggestion? Instead of a silver marker, a Molotow chrome pen would really make the numbers pop. I use them in my action figure restorations (my contribution to keeping plastic out of landfill I suppose!) and they really are properly chrome, not like the old days. You will need to fix the chrome when it's dry, so might add a couple more minutes to the project, but it'd be well worth it.
Also, just wanted to say how nice it was to meet you both at MC in May! My Mum was very impressed by the sunglasses after I'd explained what you lads do! It'd be amazing if you could do a talk next year, I'm sure loads of people who don't know what you're about would love to hear what you do, how you do it and why. Fingers crossed!
You do action-figure restorations? That sounds amazing!
@@Reubentheimitator6572 I do! I have managed to save quite a few figures in the last few years. One day I'll upload some videos to my channel, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Thanks for replying to me! 😊
@@ModelsExInferis You're welcome! I hope to see those videos whenever you're ready to upload them.
@@Reubentheimitator6572 I'm really busy doing some work on my car before the bad weather sets in, so it may be a while, but I'll get there. Thanks for the interest in them, that's really nice of you!
@@ModelsExInferis Oh, no worries, I've been thinking about making videos too and I haven't done them so, it's only fair me to wait for as long as you need me to wait. You're welcome to my interest in them.
The pattern you used to number the d20 is a spin down, as consecutive numbers are near each other, making it a good dice to keep track of a number, like health points. For rolling you should use a different pattern where consecutive numbers are almost opposite to each other to ensure your rolls are more or less balanced even if the dice isn't perfectly fair
I love how simple the mold for this project is! Love that you show disassembling it as the way to quickly recover from the billet getting stuck in the mold.
Beyond the certainty that these aren't weighted fairly, and that spindown arguably isn't the fairest possible number distribution for a D20, I'd question how durable these would be to repeated rolling? Something so easily hand carved gives me flashbacks to the super cheap dice that came in the super oldschool D&D boxed edition. (Though their problem was brittleness, with the corners and edges wearing away with each roll.)
By not filling the holes that show the numbers on the dice, they will not be balanced. The dice must be equal in weight on all sides, or you will not get a true dice roll. It will probably end up with 5s and 6s more than normal dice.
It is a nice thing to make though.
Yep, you’re absolutely right. Very fun to make!
That was an awesome video on so many levels.
Tell me, when you get enough random plastic scraps, cuttings and scrapings from all your projects, do they all end up mixing together to make a yuck brown colour like kids do with paints?
If yes, when do you make recycled plastic poo emjois? 💩
So the dice need to have opposite faces totaling up to be 1 + n of the die, e.g., for a d20 the 20 is opposite the 1 the 19 is opposite the 2 etc. For a d6 1 is opposite the 6.
We followed that pattern for the D6, but I just used an online template for the D20
Very very cool. You guys are awesome. I love dice and have all sizes, but these would be so great to add to my little collection. Keep up the great work
Have you tested dice for fairness? You could have a whole video throwing it 500 times and recording the rolls.
Dice must be balanced and the weight precise. I’m thinking you will need to use the more twisting, fewer colors way of blending in order to assure the dice are true. Otherwise the dice are considered “loaded”!
Oh for sure these aren’t going to win any awards for precision, but they were fun to make!
😂 wow nice I can remove 2 bottles caps for the landfill for a few months
Agree. Cool idea. Also maybe consider some other things for games. Conteiners, card separators etc.
I've been looking at getting a cheep injection molding machine and a dice mould but now I might give hand making a try :D
For sure give it a go! It’s good fun
Ha ha the fact you can hide a hole in the dice so easy is actually funny when it comes to dice. So I could say hide a small BB inside, oh nothing, never mind just thinking to myself 😆
awesome creation. it looks like the numbers are in order going around. that would make this mtg counter dice. numbers are more random on d&d d20.
I've never figured out why people say this. Assuming the dice is balanced so each face is equally likely and it gets a proper shake and roll, how would the order of the numbers affect the randomness?
@@JamesWanders i think its the same if dice is balanced. if it has air bubbles maybe makes the imbalance worse. 🤷♂️
hey ive just started making dnd dice at home with my scrap 3d prints. what a coincidince.
But in my situation its not what everyone can do. I have silicone molds that resistant to the heat that melts pla or common 3d printable plastics. I just remelt them into the molds. but in this video everyone can acvhieve relitavely same results, just a lot harder!
I would be so curious to see the color blends you achieve with your silicone mold process.
@@toriwilson6961 its kinda hard im still trying to figure out a reliable method. Since the parts i melt isnt homogenus* at all there is lot of bubbles to deal with. If i succed i will probably share it.
Super cool vídeo and crafting!... but that´s not a D20, it´s just a die counter. D20 have opposite faces add up 21, for example: 20 the opposite face is 1, 19 its opposite is 2 and so on. Not many DMs will allow it.
You guys really should invest in some kind of rolling machine to get all those bubbles out, as voids in your dice isn't going to do wonders for the balance.
I’ve been toying with using someone like a hand crank pasta maker to get flat sheets.
@@dccameron That's one way to do it. Could also work to put it under a vacuum while it's still hot, but I've no idea if that would actually work or not.
Hey brothers,
Hi, from Alaska.
First of all,
I love your vids but I ain't seen em all.
I got a question.
Do you know of anyone who might be extruding recycled plastic sheets with a wide spreading type nozzle?
Just kinda had an idea for an ice chest project.
Thank you
Wondered if I could do it myself.
Loooove the idea!!!! Great work!!
Can you make them by injection molding? (Maybe not the complete thing with numbers, but maaaybe the blanks?)
Hey Matt and Jonny! Glad to see that you were able to work dice into your instruction videos! I had sent you some pics of the giant D20 I had made, I really like how you adapted it to a smaller dice, time consuming, yes but if you’re only making a few they are great personal gifts.
Still haven’t put the numbers on my D20 but have since made 10 larger batches of D6’s. Let me know if you want any hints/jig ideas to speed up the process (besides injection molding as you don’t get that nice swirl). ✌🏽
Spin-down D20s aren't really my favorite, but man is that gorgeous! Also that would make for a wonderful life counter in MTG! No need to worry if it's unbalanced, and it'd look killer as a set with a mixed purple-green D10 for a poison counter.
I wonder if this process could be done similar to how candy makers do it, just lay out rolls of specific colors in order to make pixel art into the dice itself?
Youve got me dreaming up so many ideas thank you!!
I would like to ask a question. I want to melt plastic bottle caps to make small items. I've seen that you categorize plastics as numbers 2, 4, and 5. If I do this without separating them, is it okay? Will it affect the recycling process?🤔
I love plastic, it's a phenomenal set of materials ❤❤❤ And if we find good ways to recycle and upcycle it, it's wouldn't even be that bad for the environment anymore (except of course for the stabilizers leeching out over time, but hey)
Instead of fighting the inclusion of bubbles, why not incorporate them on purpose like taffy-pullers (see Lofty Pursuits Confectionary for techniques)? Millions of evenly distributed bubbles will create a uniform density. It would be difficult to maintain the temperature, so preheating a metal wall hook and having constant heat applied via heat guns or heat lamps would also increase working time.
Note the colors will all turn nearly white.
Very nice... Tempted to challenge you to make a percentile dice AKA a D100. Yes there are actual 100-sided dice.
I think showing the consequences of the lack of folds was good, as I've always wanted to see something this video was going for and now I can see the trade-off.
This seems really interesting to get into! but really carcinogenic! How do you know if the fumes are toxic or not? With all the plastic melting. Excuse my lack of knowledge 🤔
I'd this possible to make with number 1 PET?, because it would be cool to make dice blue, green and clear PET.
Those clic klac rocks don't clic klac right! Great use fornthe plastic, they do infortunately make a a different siund than you'd expect from dice.
I'd love to see if you can come up with a DIY friendly way to make organization tools like hooks or shelves that are pegboard friendly!
I wish you gave more than "Usually at This Point". You've not mentioned how long cook times are.
Can people make working guns and ammunition out of recycled plastic with 3D printing machines?
Just an fyi, that acetone is melting your plastic very slightly. If you can use something else to remove the pen marks, you can probably skip the blowtorch step entirely
Have you ever tried using shredded 3D prints? I’m working on my own little shredding and molding setup and it’d be great to see how you guys might handle it.
Any harmful gases/chemicals leakout of we toast this plastic in the oven we use for cooking???
What if you guys start making plastic Toothbrush bodies? It's tiring to buy bamboo toothbrushes and they get moldy too easily.
Cool, btw those shavings would look good in resin pendants etc. Laurie. NZ. 😊
안녕하세요, 지금 사용하고 계시는 검저액 종이의 이름은 무엇인가요? 어디서 구매할수 있는지 알려주실수 있어요?
If you are making dice and you don't want them to be weighted, air bubbles are a bad thing. I get this is just a set for a friendly game, but it could be the difference of a set someone will not want to play because it rolls low a lot or one your DM says you can not play with because it rolls high too much. If you just want to put it on a shelf fine.
Well i was going to take my plastic down to you guys but you might have just saved me some expensive train tickets :P
Are most of the caps in the UK made with PE? Most of the caps I'm seeing at my house in the US are PP.
I could see this as an injection molding project, getting a mold made for all the different dice used in D&D and just mixing wild colors together then selling at flee markets and online.
Could the air bubble issue be solved or reduced by folding the colours individually before folding them together?
So glad to see how geeky you are coming out as side atorys in your vidios iv seen littel bits hear and ther but now no one can deny it love it ❤ enjoy waching how to be even geeker geeks make your own dice! Yay thanks❤❤❤❤❤
Wow, so fun to see the faceting of the d20 coming together. Make that a youtube short if you haven't yet!
Hope that d20 rolls high! Nothing hurts more than getting a brand new d20 only for it to roll like garbage
Which material are the heating sheets made of? How do you demould so easy from the wood mold? Do you use some demoulding product?
With the blowtorch for making them shiny again, is it just a case of heating them for a few seconds and it takes care of itself?
Awesome vid! 👌 Next project put the numbers in an opposite order way. Like 20 opposing 1 and 19 opposing 2. All opposing sides equal 21 added together on D20. Same with D6, 1 opposing 6 all opposite sides add to 7.
I just followed an online template 🤷🏽♂️😅
@@BrothersMakethat's a MTG count down marker, not an actual d20
Would you be able to put the plastic into a silicone die mold? Like people who work with resin do?
The shavings off of that 20 sided die look like a Tame Impala album.
Ahhhhh give ya a pain in your heart the love shown between two brothers 🤭🤭🤭 very cool lads 👏👏👏
마지막 20면체 주사위는 상당히 어려워 보이네요. 하지만 그럴만한 가치가 있어 보여요
I love it! BUT - you got the D20 number placement all wrong lol!
Too bad Dumb Tube has blocked the full screen. Hope it I s nice
You could fill the air bubbles with just clear epoxy resin
So sad you mad it a count down die. Can't even play D&D with that.
I don't have all these tools is there a way to use something like a chocolate or ice mold?
Is that a spin down counter? The number order looks like it is
What's the black sheet do you use?
Looks like silicone baking mat to me. Comes in lots of varieties.
I'm transitioning from 3D printing to making pet collar tags out of recycled bottle tops but struggling with a consistent (and cheap!) way to stamp them! Any advice?
laser engraver
I enjoyed the visuals of chiseling the plastic, but what made you decide to go that route instead of making a press mold? Wouldn't that have been much quicker for making multiples?
Yes indeed! But this was intended as a beginner friendly project
How often do you end up swapping out the baking sheets?
Is the d20 perfect? Absolutely not. Is it absolutely awesome and I wish I had the time to try to make my own? You bet your dice goblin booties I want one of those recycled plastic clickety-clack math rocks!
😂😂 comment of the day
What I'd love to do is create containers for small and larger items. From fasteners and gaming cards to hand tools.
Is there a way to do so with DIY molds or are these limited to the expensive injection molds you use?
I'd love for these containers to be compatible with gridfinity. Ideally creating the gridginity baseplates as well.
Gridfinity is very popular in the 3D printing space right now. I believe it would be amazing if this technique could avoid the need for new 3D printers and new specialized plastics.
I've never worked with plastic, so bear that in mind
My first thought is a press mold, like they had for making the "billet". I've seen sheet metal pressed into forms, and expect a warmed sheet of plastic could do similar, though it might tear through.
Second thought is my woodworking experience coming out. You could cut thin rectangles for the sides of your box (it whatever it is) then stick them together. Woodworking joints like dovetails and finger joints would work so long as you're not worried about water tight. Otherwise, some channels show methods for repairing cracked plastic that might work, or else some of the custom aquarium/terrarium/palaudarium channels show techniques for joining acrylic panels in watertight fashion. Might also be able to figure out a "weld" of some sort if you can 3D pen then together?
I really want to make a golf putter for my cousin out of rHDPE. ♻️⛳️ i think it would be a great starter project...
That’s a nice idea!
Thought I’d comment on a newer video but, if I wanted a thinner more bendy plastic would I just melt claps and make it thinner? looking for something thin enough it could be sewn threw
For sewing I’d recommend using a soft plastic like plastic bags. Check out our wallet video as we use that for sewing!
Two of my favorite things... nice!
Thank you.
I think you underestimate the staying power of a good key fob, I have been using the same plastic one for 47 years.
I'd be interested to see some water testing for the weighting.
Could you share your experience with safety and chemical hazards?
We made a whole video on it!
Very good friends, excellent work, greetings from Brazil.👍
what type of coating is used to prevent it from sticking, is it paper or aluminum?
Teflon baking sheets 🤙🏼
Love these! Very well done! Thanks for what y’all do. Hugz, Tree
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Thus channel has become a waste of time nothing but shorts same cos I liked your content when you started
We have always published 1 long form video per month. The shorts are extra!
Looks like a dicey situation! 😉 There is something I'm curious about.. Have you done any 3d printing? I just got one and I wonder if you have done any recycling with the scrap from that. It should be possible I think.. PLA has a melting point of 150-180c. Hopefully all the scraps from failed prints can be melted down and me made in to something else. Cheers! On a side note, it looks like it would be very easy to 3d print all kinds of dice
Check out our infinity gauntlet video 👍🏽
@@BrothersMake ah, if only I had payed attention.. I did watch it just now and it answered my question, thanks!
No caterpillar, but what about a cat?